arjun

hello every1 am new here..just love watching this MT on star plus..growing up hearing tales of it 4m every senior members of my family..

i bliv if kings were chosen on merit as dhriti gt rejected due to his blindnes n apparent disability then neither duri who ws evil nor yudi (who wrongfuly gambled his siblings n nt only that if draupadi ws d wife of al d pandavas then hw cd yudi without taking d consent of other bros if they wd allow draupadi to be put to stake decide on his own to gamble her too?) who didnt evn hv d will power nor d balanced ego to stop playing d game of dice at its appropiate time bt gv in to every temptations thrown on his way by duri n shakuni deserved to b king..its only arjun who deserved to be king..bcoz nt only he won draupadi bt also he ws d game changer..without him yudi wd hv fled evn at d sight of duri n bheesma n othr bravehearts who fot against d pandavas..also arjun maryd so many princes winning allies n annexing thr armys 2 thereby strenghtning themselves showing off his political intelligence efficiently n lastly he gt krishna onboard too due to subhadra or watevr 😆 ..so arjun sd hv bin d king of hastinapur aftr bheesma..no1 else..its arjuns gr8nes that he didnt challenge yudi to stake his own claim n its yudis conceitednes that he didnt realize of his own that he sd hv passed d throne to his bro arjun..no offence any1 just my pov 😳

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Originally posted by: JustMySelf

hello every1 am new here..just love watching this MT on star plus..growing up hearing tales of it 4m every senior members of my family..

i bliv if kings were chosen on merit as dhriti gt rejected due to his blindnes n apparent disability then neither duri who ws evil nor yudi (who wrongfuly gambled his siblings n nt only that if draupadi ws d wife of al d pandavas then hw cd yudi without taking d consent of other bros if they wd allow draupadi to be put to stake decide on his own to gamble her too?) who didnt evn hv d will power nor d balanced ego to stop playing d game of dice at its appropiate time bt gv in to every temptations thrown on his way by duri n shakuni deserved to b king..its only arjun who deserved to be king..bcoz nt only he won draupadi bt also he ws d game changer..without him yudi wd hv fled evn at d sight of duri n bheesma n othr bravehearts who fot against d pandavas..also arjun maryd so many princes winning allies n annexing thr armys 2 thereby strenghtning themselves showing off his political intelligence efficiently n lastly he gt krishna onboard too due to subhadra or watevr 😆 ..so arjun sd hv bin d king of hastinapur aftr bheesma..no1 else..its arjuns gr8nes that he didnt challenge yudi to stake his own claim n its yudis conceitednes that he didnt realize of his own that he sd hv passed d throne to his bro arjun..no offence any1 just my pov 😳

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no offence taken and I loved your point of views they are different and unique some thoughts to ponde over 😆

Yudhisthir was brought up adn trained to be king he knew all about shaastras dharmas legalities arthshastra politics he was all rounder that is why he was better then Duryodhan where as Arjun was not that talented in other matters though he was a great dhanurdhar he was nipun is every vidya a king should have.

no matter what good job he had done Arjun would never have been the first choice as a king.

like vidhur pointed out that a king should have certain qualities to rule it is not as if anyone can be made a king, all the qualities were present in yudhisthir so he became the yuvraj.

First he was 5th in line to the throne after Yudhisthir Duryodhan Bheem Yuyutsu and arjun

Not sure if bheem was elder or yuyutsu if arjun could have been then why not Bheem he was always there when Panchali needed him panchali got help more from Bheem then any other husband

Bheem truly loved him

I read a story of Bheem and Draupadi but have forgoton what it was but it showed their love atleast on Bheem's part.

Originally posted by: rasyafan

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no offence taken and I loved your point of views they are different and unique some thoughts to ponde over 😆

Yudhisthir was brought up adn trained to be king he knew all about shaastras dharmas legalities arthshastra politics he was all rounder that is why he was better then Duryodhan where as Arjun was not that talented in other matters though he was a great dhanurdhar he was nipun is every vidya a king should have.

no matter what good job he had done Arjun would never have been the first choice as a king.

like vidhur pointed out that a king should have certain qualities to rule it is not as if anyone can be made a king, all the qualities were present in yudhisthir so he became the yuvraj.

First he was 5th in line to the throne after Yudhisthir Duryodhan Bheem Yuyutsu and arjun

Not sure if bheem was elder or yuyutsu if arjun could have been then why not Bheem he was always there when Panchali needed him panchali got help more from Bheem then any other husband

Bheem truly loved him

I read a story of Bheem and Draupadi but have forgoton what it was but it showed their love atleast on Bheem's part.

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ok i gt it..sum hw i nevr liked yudi ..i alwaz felt he is d weakest char 4m d pandavs bro tho perhaps betr than nakul n d other1 as i hardly heard any tales of those two younger bros..my knowledge of mahabharat is limited..just d tales i keep hearing 4m my parents n other family members..n nw this 1 in star plus..n wen i think 4m my pov i feel i dnt like duri nor do i like yudi..he hardly won any war by himself unlike arjun..n also krishna didnt show himself as d god infrnt yudi bt only arjun ws d 1..so i felt that arjun sd hv bin d nxt king y else wd he gt krishnas darshaan if he wsnt d worthyst of al?y didnt krishna tel yudi i wd drive ur chariot as ur d nxt king?

I don't think Yudhisthir was the best king, I think that Bhima would have been better. He led by example, and after Yudhisthir became the ruler of Hastinapur (after the war), he made Bhima the yuvraj. Somehow, it lost the meaning, since Yudhisthir was succeeded by Parikshit, who never became yuvraj.

Nice viewpoint but I do not think everyone who is a great warrior would make a great king.

Yudhisthir was too much of an enemy-lover, which caused more bloodshed on the Pandava side than would have otherwise happened. For instance, had Bhima or Arjun been the ruler, Duryodhan couldn't have asked Drona to capture them - it would have been impossible; but w/ Yudhisthir, it was possible. Bhima was hot headed only wrt the Kauravas, where it was justified. Not w/ his own.

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Yudhisthir was too much of an enemy-lover, which caused more bloodshed on the Pandava side than would have otherwise happened. For instance, had Bhima or Arjun been the ruler, Duryodhan couldn't have asked Drona to capture them - it would have been impossible; but w/ Yudhisthir, it was possible. Bhima was hot headed only wrt the Kauravas, where it was justified. Not w/ his own.

Also, Yudhisthir did not seem to recognize the importance of bringing evil doers to justice. After the war, even though Bheeshma, Drona, Karna, Shalya and so many others had died for him, Dhritarashtra continued to live luxuriously @ Hastinapur, courtesy Yudhisthir's generousity, and Gandhari would be waited on by the Pandava womenfolk - each of whom had lost their sons in the war - like maids. This obviously enraged Bhima, and he within earshot boasted about how he had killed all the 100 Kauravas, thereby reminding Dhritarashtra that he was essentially a beggar living on the alms of those who he had wronged and who had defeated him.

As a result of that, Dhritarashtra realized what he had done wrong, and finally made the decision to go into exile to the forest, where he was ultimately killed in a forest fire. Yudhisthir refused to make him face the consequences, but Bhima did!

Originally posted by: JustMySelf

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ok i gt it..sum hw i nevr liked yudi ..i alwaz felt he is d weakest char 4m d pandavs bro tho perhaps betr than nakul n d other1 as i hardly heard any tales of those two younger bros..my knowledge of mahabharat is limited..just d tales i keep hearing 4m my parents n other family members..n nw this 1 in star plus..n wen i think 4m my pov i feel i dnt like duri nor do i like yudi..he hardly won any war by himself unlike arjun..n also krishna didnt show himself as d god infrnt yudi bt only arjun ws d 1..so i felt that arjun sd hv bin d nxt king y else wd he gt krishnas darshaan if he wsnt d worthyst of al?y didnt krishna tel yudi i wd drive ur chariot as ur d nxt king?

You are feeling right. I feel the same that Yudhisthar was too idealistic and someone who could not be a good husband he could never have been a good king

But he ruled for 36 years with peace harmony and praja wa happy he was trained accordingly and he was better educated and trained like a king.

Do read online mahabharat thee are several avaialble that would give you an idea.

Because Arjun was a better Dhanurdhan then yudhisthar he was good in bhala chalana aur whatever and Yahi Vidhi ka vidhan tha tabhi krishna became his sarthi

There is a valid solid reason I forgot about it why krishna became a sarthi and don't forget it was Arjun who was getting sentimental about killing Bheeshm Kripacharya Drona Charya all his gurus, nakul sehdev's mama shri therefore, Krishn only explained to Arjun and showed him his Virat roop

Many times Yudhisthar stopped his brothers from doing wrong things he would explain why also acording to the books and rules and terms

Even i hate yudhisthar but he was cunningly lead into that game it started with dhritrashtra who did not request but he gave his adesh and yudhishthar had already refused to play duet krida

theefore, yudhishthar could not refuse order of Dhritrashtra Jyesht Pita and the king

he was the most bechara as he had the greeater responcibility his brothers his mothers the entire family 😆

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1 more thing i didnt like abt yudi is that his choice of words..he ws d eldest bt hw carelesly he told kunti that luk ma wat we hv gt refereing to draupadi..wat does that mean?is draupadi a thing?sdnt he hv said wat arjun gt?hd he said that d meaning cd hv bin diferent n kunti mite nt hv said share it amongst urselves isnt it?a wd b king who doesnt know to phrase out his sentences?thats strange..ok i know draupadi ws destined to bcum wife of 5 husbands with her boon etc yet wsnt yudhisthir bit careles type?n if d future king cdnt hv ctrl ovr his gambling habits n gv to temptations then cd he b termed d best possible king?a just king hs such will power that nothing can coax him to indulge in casual gambling either n this ws serious gambling..i find d rest of d 4 bros were extremely gud that they nevr questioned that who gv him d right to stake them in d game..if it ws like modern times yudi wd hv bin 1st roughed up by his own bros 🤣 ..n another thing is he didnt stake kunti bt draupadi..so he did save mom bt gambled wife y?y didnt he put up kunti 4 sale too 😲..wat made him stop?so doesnt it mean that he treated draupadi as tradable object?its realy heinous..perhaps he is d 1st 1 who told men that luk women cd b used as tradable objects if u need to swap her 4 mony..n that duri n dushshashan d 1st 1 who tryd molestations perhaps its an instance of 1st gang molestations..i dnt know..😕..sory just trying to learn more 4m every1s pov..i am nt alwaz right bt without putting up my thots i wdnt hv d chance to gt corrected either..so hope am nt ending up hurting any1 with my curiosity?😭

Originally posted by: Justlikethat1

Nice viewpoint but I do not think everyone who is a great warrior would make a great king.

yudhishtir was the wisest and the most fit to take the role of king among his generation. As another mentioned I the same post, he was trained to be King right from day one,.

Other than that, he had immense patience. A clarity of thought, intelligence, the ability to command respect and most of all, was a follower of dharma and truth.

Yes.. Yudhishtir did gamble and did lose his kingdom including his brothers and his wife but as much as it was unwarranted, that was his mistake but that does not make him a bad king.. Maybe a bad brother end husband at that particular point of time.

Hi he was ordered to play that game by dhritrashtra he could not refuse his orders he was lead into that dhokha

Yudhishtir Aldo had the power to keep his brothers together. Bheem was too hot headed, Arjun too much of a swabhimani to keep their heads cool. Yudhishtir held his family together.

He was impartial and also an honest man. He understood the nuances of ruling and was ably supported by his brothers.

One thing, the pandavas rarely fought among themselves. They rather complimented each other which made them such a force. That is why Duryodhana feared them.

👏 very well explained wow absolutely correct I loved each one of your explaination in great detail too please read in blue why he played that game😆