Episode 601 Discussion: 16th June 2014, Monday

* bottom line if we keep social service in corner + logic , den epi was fulltoo entertainment , so i enjoy epi 😛 😳
* plus who said mb didn't give entertainment den better watch mb tonite epi but keep ur fandom beside den u enjoy epi 😳

Edit :

epi contained all things - whether u called masala ( spice ) + twist the things according to own wish + some game planner behind the frame

be prepared to roller coaster ride on mb from this week 😎

so mb hide forced marriage b/w jm n raja to all people ( still fordrama sake cvs make side character like kathputli ) , oye cvs its time for action 😈

attacked on bittuji , my bet on three people - ( waise i always lost my bet , phir bhi bet lagane mai paise thodi lagata )

1st - khud bittuji
2nd - jm ( bittuji + jm combined plan )
3rd - bhanu
4th - tauji
5th - raja

( ab kahoge 2 additional kahan se agaya , kya karen extra player to hota hai n )

precap : waiting for nxt epi

I dun feel like writing anything , its of no use..since i know its gonna end in a few days, I am doing the formality...

An entertaining episode.I enjoyed . even more when JM was denigrated in the court...Call me regressive I admired Raja's arguments...Because the case they made is valid.( Most of the arguments were lifted from the forum). She did"nt go to police,court etc etc when needed...I expected. a lecture from Madhuji. and why she put up AK bakwas.. Thanks to our reactions No..I wonder what sort of woman Padhaji is! . No reactions for RM mansion, or how JM ended up marrying Raju manipulated by AK family? Shocking expression? At least a swoon?😆 No wonder JM is a specimen...too..

epi was interesting..but hate raja to the core😡..cvs are trying to make rk out of raja.👎🏼.manipulating to win .😡.but they can never succeed cause rk was classy superstar 👍🏼and raja is a gawar and cold blooded murderer..and a r... too..👎🏼😡...disgusting..just hate the character of raja...though vd is outstanding ..👏poor madhu..😭hope she will disclose some truths tom..😊dd was awesome as always..👏

The only right thing this series can hope to do - after 16 months of every variety of discord and disunity between the lead pairings in both couple characterizations - is a happy culmination to this idiotically senseless and ill-conceived track.
They could please not suddenly bring logic as hindrance in a pleasingly uncrusading culmination. Logic and even a vestige of sense has been completely absent in this track's start and duration.
Keeping the ending at all logical would just make this track as flop in start-duration-end as every consecutive track for more than a year.

Couldn't feel a whit of sympathy for either of our two leads, but could sympathize with every one of us viewers who have endured such a succession of predictably mass-unappealing tracks sure to get inadequate viewership each time.

The CVs seem to have consistently blundered on a very basic point.
The female lead gets the massive mostly conservative majority-audience's support because she never fights in her own defence.
The maximum exception is if harm to her caused great harm to a member of her sasuraal, and became her reason for starting the fight. If it happens later into the fight, serves no purpose.
If that's not the case, then the harder she fights and stands for (her own) rights, the more the series goes into petrifyingly inadequate viewership.
She receives mass-support for enduring anything against herself and speaking up or taking action only in someone else's defence. And when she wages a crusade, it is with almost her entire family and acquaintances against her, and her tormentedly still forging ahead.
Another point, her battle must be essential to protect a facet of her sasuraal's prestige - that if she didn't take the course she does, it would shame her sasuraal further. So her opting to cause her sasuraal upheaval needs to be to save them from worse embarrassment later.
*That* is the exact ironclad context that female leads get mass-support for standing in.

In the village, when JM decided to flee, it was for herself. Yes, she was given dialogue to say about it being to save other people's lives, but that was a transparent engineered dialogue. The only harm likely to come to anyone was in her escaping or trying to escape.
But that was inconvenient to acknowledge, and the CVs have a fond illusion that if they say something completely contradicted by the events in the story, mass-audience should conveniently get amnesia on those points and believe the character's declared dialogue.
The fact that mass-audience has shown no such malleable memory or empathy in this series for so long has been a fact to be forgotten in hope for every next track.

This time, JM is fighting for herself. If any other women benefit, it'll be as a distant and minuscule side-effect.
When the female lead gives a crusading speech, there are two criteria for it to be effective in getting mass-empathy - it *not* be in her own defence, and the character she is defending must have the support of the majority-audience.
If these two criteria are not both adhered to, the speech might as well be wrapped in a minute or two for any mass-support she might have had any chance of getting.

The CVs/channel seem to tailor the tracks like a shop stocked with things to the shopkeeper's tastes rather than what there will adequately enough customers for.
One might be imprudent in expecting a crore of people to everyday spend their entertainment-time in watching what they find disinteresting and/or distasteful to their sensibilities, simply for the benefit of someone they neither know nor care about. The serial's track needs rather more crores of viewers interestedly watching everyday to keep the track from closing.

Not really expecting a mass-acceptable non-crusading culmination tomorrow, but would be pleasant to see.
It would be the first time in a long time that a track's ending would not be a botch and a spectacle of yet another track closed from expecting many crores of viewers to change their years of unvaryingly consistent viewing preferences, just to suit the CVs tastes and make the track at least passable in success.

Whatever 'brilliant' social service they want to show (that provenly not enough crores of viewers have been interested in seeing), could they wrap it quickly in tomorrow's episode and let the couple go home? A suitably illogical ending to an excruciating senseless track.
This series has repeatedly proven for very many months that the CVs with the constraint of mass-unappealing course and mould can't manage a crusading track except in a way that staggeringly fails in viewership.
So please could they avoid that and let the couple go home? If they could change characterizations of the leads whenever and however they very recklessly and confoundingly saw fit, then they don't need to worry about doing the same thing yet again far more mass-acceptably.
Mass-audience is unlikely to appreciate a crusading culmination for a crusading track they didn't care about.

Just let the couple go home and carry on with senseless unsympathizable fighting there for a few days, then prove the husband was drugged, they were both victims.
It's anyway not likely to be even remotely a successful track with this selective-memory crusading-angle of presenting one of the victims as the culprit and the other victim as the lone victim of the atrocious and needlessly conceptualized matter.
The sheer varieties of drugs for variations on that abominable theme for both genders are sufficiently feared with the vaguest of knowledge that they make for a formidable defence and alibi.

The lead actors will carry that also through regardless of story, as they have so far.
Not expecting a pleasant watch, but at least something worth watching rather than assured of mass-audience skipping yet again for forcefed tracks and scenes.
Just a quick close on a track that has made no sense and clearly not been inspiring or watchworthy in viewership, and segueing into a next track that might perhaps have at least a chance of being mass-appealing. Please?

@s, ur expecting too much..tomorrow, they will turn the case in jr madhus favor..as if one was not enuf, we have another far more irritating and illogical character..her idiot lawyer...

Throughly enjoyable and good episode. Only if the CVs had woken up earlier.

Lynch me if u want but I enjoyed JMs band bajoing in the court. Is it because I enjoy violation of female rights or the CVs have utterly failed in connecting the audience with JM?


The CVs forgot that naari shakti is not abt being a misguided missile. The original characteristics that make a woman that is love caring and compassion shud be kept intact

Neither I can't relate myself with the show nor with my friends views of feeling happy about JM's band bajaoing with Raja's lies.

Originally posted by: subashni

An entertaining episode.I enjoyed . even more when JM was denigrated in the court...Call me regressive I admired Raja's arguments...Because the case they made is valid.( Most of the arguments were lifted from the forum). She did"nt go to police,court etc etc when needed...I expected. a lecture from Madhuji. and why she put up AK bakwas.. Thanks to our reactions No..I wonder what sort of woman Padhaji is! . No reactions for RM mansion, or how JM ended up marrying Raju manipulated by AK family? Shocking expression? At least a swoon?😆 No wonder JM is a specimen...too..

Whatever after a long time I wait for tomorrow's episode.. and want Raja to win by hook or crook...

PS. I didn't sympathize.with JM for a moment.. If this is what a feminist's reaction , what of an average viewer..i DON'T EXPECT HUSHED UP LOVE STORY after this torture...Please make Raja accept his mistake in forcing JM to stay with him (not molestation. I feel she deserves it for goading an uncouth fellow).Allow them to part ways. MB is not about convention.

Don't expect too much from tomorrow episode.Remember this track is for social message and if I m not wrong tomorrow JM will give a speech on women rights.Seeing the TRP they may change the track but I don't have nay hope.