Episode 392 Discussion: 2nd Oct 2013 - Page 6

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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: river123


Absolutely.

BTW, I watched the video again and he moved away once he heard Madhus voice, and said that she wouldn't bear the brunt of his actions. He did not step forward again - he remained where he was, which is when Bittuji called him


Ok...I must watch it again.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52
This effing imposter guruji needs to know that there are more serious issues in RK's life than madhu's Nakshtras..
Another freeloader came to enjoy milk n fruit on RK's Money n then bad mouth his wife..🤬

I think RK should burn this man alive this dusshehra!
Edited by cardio21 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This guruji's prediction that his unborn child would be his omen had the sadistic mad man try to kill her before she was born and again attempt do so after he met her more than 20 years later. It is because of this very act of trying to obliterate his so-called bad omen that this man was killed by the woman who gave birth to the girl. Had he ignored the guruji's so called predictions, maybe the man would still be alive.


Coming to Sultan, the other man who came into contact with Madhu and met his end later, again it is his actions which were responsible for his end. If anything, Madhu had saved his life when she pulled out the bullet from his shoulder. Otherwise he would have been dead and gone long before RK killed him. He would have still been alive had he not tried to finish off RK in his lust for Madhu.


In other words, the two men who met their end so far only have themselves to blame for it. Had they not messed up Madhu's life, they would have still been alive.


RK's life which was always dark got darker when he messed up Madhu's life. It is only when he did right by her that he found true happiness which had eluded him ever since his father unceremoniously committed suicide. The woman had pulled him out of the brink of death, not once but thrice. The first time was when Mallik shot him because he messed up Madhu's life. So the root cause of that danger to RK's life was RK himself and not Madhu. The second time was when RK tried to kill himself because his much revered father was a scoundrel. Again it was Madhu who pulled him out of the brink. The third time was when RK tried to step off the ledge thinking his entire career is finished and it is the call from bittuji that they have found their heroine (Madhu) Again here the reason for his recent misfortunes is not Madhu. Although one would be tempted to say that because of his entanglement with Sultan (the cause of which was Madhu) that he angered Amar Behl and got banned, it is a fact that RK, the tantrum king faced the wrath of the industry because of his past arrogance. Otherwise why would the industry fall in line with Amar's proposal?


So to sum up, Madhu has always been RK's redeemer and not his destroyer. That is not to say that the future will all be rosy for these two. If RK does something to damage Madhu, then his downfall is sure.


By the way wasn't it ridiculous that the guruji initially tells them that there is no peace and happiness in the house but there is one relationship which is very strong and has stood the lest of time and later tells them that RK and Madhu have to separate? The only relationship which is strong in the house at the point is RK-Madhu. Then why should they separate? Ridiculous to say the least.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: Opti


So to sum up, Madhu has always been RK's redeemer and not his destroyer. That is not to say that the uture will all be rosy for these two. If RK does something to damage Madhu, then his downfall is sure.


By the way was't it ridiculous that the guruji initially tells them that there is no peace and happiness in the house but there is one relationship which is very strong and has stood the lest of time and later tells them that RK and Madhu have to separate? The only relationship which is strong in the house at the point is RK-Madhu. Then why should they separate? Ridiculous to say the least.


Totally agree with u.. But for the bold, why do u think RK can do something to damage madhu? 😕

And regarding this effing imposter baba who should know better about when n how to open his filthy mouth.. What family he was talking about..?? There are two Kundras.. RK n madhu in the family! If the two Kundras separate both will be destroyed. So which family is he trying to protect? How will this separation help RK who will die without madhu?
And, why he can't sense that the house is full of parasites..? Instead of focussing on the garbage in the house, he decides to target the lady of the house.. 🤬
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: cardio21


Totally agree with u.. But for the bold, why do u think RK can do something to damage madhu? 😕

And regarding this effing imposter baba who should know better about when n how to open his filthy mouth.. What family he was talking about..?? There are two Kundras.. RK n madhu in the family! If the two Kundras separate both will be destroyed. So which family is he trying to protect? How will this separation help RK who will die without madhu?
And, why he can't sense that the house is full of parasites..? Instead of focussing on the garbage in the house, he decides to target the lady of the house.. 🤬



Cardio, we do not know how the future is going to pan out. If RK becomes insecure because of Madhu's success and starts behaving as badly as he hd done with her in the past then his downfall is sure.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: Opti



By the way wasn't it ridiculous that the guruji initially tells them that there is no peace and happiness in the house but there is one relationship which is very strong and has stood the lest of time and later tells them that RK and Madhu have to separate? The only relationship which is strong in the house at the point is RK-Madhu. Then why should they separate? Ridiculous to say the least.


It was completely ridiculous and ludicrous that when Guruji said that there is scheming from all corners of the house, the comment was completely overlooked too. Dips didn't even have the gall to look ashamed considering the role she played earlier. The comment should at least provide some food for thought for Rji.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: cardio21


@Arshifan the last incident was not a planned suicide out of desperation but it was an act of rage. It was not a well thought out plan so can't be labelled as a suicidal ideation. It's RK's self destructive behavior but not his defeated self that was going to kill himself. Once he cools down, he never attempted to end his life.. In fact he moved on as if nothing had happened once he thought over it and realized that madhu will have to bear the collateral damage of his actions. Unlike MK, who was suicidal and didn't think about the effects of his actions on his son n wife
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RK is more of a reactive personality.. He just has extreme reactions.. Else who goes for a 4 phera wedding and then unwedding after loving the girl to death.
This time was different, this is a man who lives for his ego.. He has made huge claims in front of media n public. Any man with self-respect would have been humbled and RK realized that there is no way out of this shame and mockery he will be subjected, so he just was going to take an extreme step exhibiting his self-destructive tendency.




I don't think either that he has planned a suicide, we all know how much excited and confident he was about this whole press conference, and I know what he was about to do was in the heat of the moment, but I just don't like them to show him doing this, I could understand that when it was about his father but now, not really not even for his ego.

If you all remember, for his ego he used to make Machiavellian plans with a cool head, yes he used to drink, get angry but nothing more, when Madhu sent him to prison the first time, saying that she will punish him, he played his game in a very suble and cunning way, although he was very angry to the point of trying to not forget what she did to him, he wrote her name on the wall, slept on the floor and ate from a piece of bread (instead of using a plate) even after he got out of the prison, all this to keep the fire of revenge in him but he never showed this to others. Another incident, when she slapped him, he didn't react in front of people, he kept watching the video, drinking and planning his next step to avenge his ego by punishing madhu and this in front of all people who mocked him then. When she accused him of hitting Mukund, he handled media with his charming attitude, using some solid arguments, that all this is a doing of a middle class girl who wants to get famous, and how can a man who drinks have six pack😆 insinuating that he is a healthy person, because usually drinkers have a big tummy (well If they work out I don't know whether they can have six packs). Moreover he used more solid arguments, when he made someone take the pictures of him and Madhu in compromising situations, he also used her family's history, her sister who wnats to be a heroine, her mom and her relationship with Malik and the list goes on and on...

All this is just to say, that even because of his ego, Rk always uses his brain, no matter how much the situation is difficult, he has this ability to turn the tables, so for me even here he could have handled the press, take a hold on himself and think of something to get rid of these problems, but I guess all these things are a drama requirement, they needed to show that he is really feeling very bad, justifying Madhu's entry to films, although actually she didn't see him when he was about to jump.

Self destructive and extreme behavior, well I agree with you on this point, a man who unweds the woman who did a lot for him in that humilating manner for the sake of his ego is definitely a destructive person, actually he showed his extreme behavior many times, cutting his hand to force her to give an answer , and he always shows junoon, nothing is normal in his life, I guess that's what makes him different and that's why we love him this much😊

Well for the fact that he moved away after he cooled down, hearing Madhu's voice and that she should not bear the consequences, it might be interpreted in two ways, either he thinks about her an loves her and won't leave her or maybe he thinks that he is an unlucky person and she is better off without him (I'm talking only about this weakness moment he was going through warna he knows Madhu can't live without him!), in the picture below when he backed off after hearing Madhu's voice and before taking bittuji's call, it seemed like if he bent his leg to head towards the edge once again but then he got bittuji's phone and he straightened his leg


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Posted: 11 years ago
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A very engaging episode! Lots of dramatic elements. The Rishbala scene was def my fav!! They both looked hot! 😳
Guruji, seems like he has some personal vendetta against Madhu. What did the poor girl ever do to him? The way he was talking about her with such negativity really was making me angry! He didn't see any of the good she's done? Fine, let's just believe for a second what he said about Madhu is true, does he have to present it like she's some sort of devil? I really don't like Guruji, how dare he speak about my Madhu that way? 😡 If RK was there he really would have heard it from him! In the end I'm hoping Rishbala come out on top! They truly are a super couple!! 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: zoya_naziya


And as the guruji was telling that she is vinaash, anth, etc,etc, on the other hand MC was telling she is chanchal, will give a life, etc,etc...



that's right Zoya...Guruji predicting RK's destruction and there, they were showing the opposite happening..Madhu saved RK..yes, Madhu has always been the redeeming factor in RK's life...they were showing a lot of contradictions in this every episode...


IMO this was the much needed drama and twist required in the otherwise sugary sweet lives of RM...this is a sureshot signal that RM might separate...how soon or how late, I don't know , may be when Madhu gets to know about it...their ishq and junoon will not let them stay without each other & this prediction (the fear & doubt created in Madhu's mind) will not let them stay close...so I can imagine an "epic love story" in the making 😃


I'm not too much worried about the prophecy, although I know it will turn out to be correct...may be bec. I can already foresee RK's destruction..bec. a person's biggest weakness destroys him...and in RK's case it's Madhu...self destruction must be written in his kundali also...his destiny pulled him towards Madhu, towards his destruction ...be it the unwedding or the divorce drama, they separated and they came back together again...abhi bhi yahi hoga...and yes, the shama parwana story fits them to the T...their love is consuming & destructive...but this is love...


but why am i saying RK's destruction? there are 3 things which were very dear to him...one was his father's memories...2nd was his career , self pride & ego...3rd is Madhu...His father's memories were destroyed and Madhu was instrumental in it...bec. unintentionally, Madhu brought Sultan in RK's life...RK is on the verge of losing his name/fame/career and again, the reason is his ishq and junoon for Madhu..those pack ups happened bec. of Madhu only...we cannot deny Madhu's role in it, although it was unintentional & RK shared the blame equally for being an idiot...yes, he got the happiness back in his life only bec. of Madhu, but he lost everything else...now i think the opposite will happen...Madhu will never let him fall..she will walk out from his life...this will never lead to RK's downfall bec. Madhu will be his savior...but he will lose Madhu & his happiness...so this see saw will continue and this is how everybody's life is...

even if Madhu is means for his destruction, what he will gain out of this relationship, by this companionship, by this ishq and junoon will be worth it...and he will fight for it...i remember his words correctly "agar tum meri kismat mein nahi bhi likhi hogi toh main un sitaron se lad jhagad ke tumko apna banaoonga" (before he went to kill Sultan for the first time)

sorry for this long rant, now i'm losing track of what i wanted to say 😃

@Meenu, wonderful pics. thanks a lot 🤗

@ Najat can u plz do me a favor, can u plz edit the RM scenes from yest. episode and make a video for me coz i don't wanna download the complete episode & see Babaji's face again 🤢
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: zoya_naziya

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RK trying to suicide today was not justified in any sense at all including not being in senses as well... It was utterly ridiculous.. Him drinking is fine but not sth like this..
Did RK attempt suicide when his father did?
Did he attempt suicide when his first film flopped?
Did he attempt suicide when his first film didn't take off and Dipz-Sicky were launched in a big fashion?


may be he attempted suicide earlier Zoya, how do we know? we know how much these events affected his life, his thinking, his upbringing and his habits (drinking) ...I know he tried to kill himself when he knew MK's truth...he tried to kill himself when he burnt his father's chair...bec. this shame was too much for him to handle...IMO there can be no valid reason for committing suicide...it's a moment's weakness ! Of course, it's not a pleasant sight, to watch him in this condition...they have time and again stressed on his self destructive streak...

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