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Posted: 12 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: _Evil_Angel_


Now what "Sensitive" work Sultan did according to you ?

1. Are you talking about keeping his 5 years old son as a bait just to win a murdering competition ? Yaahh ! How "sensitive" it was !

2. Or may be u r talking about kidnapping a girl on GUN POINT to babysit his son was a "sensitive" thing to do ?

3. Or may be forcefully jumping into a girl's personal matter , her love life everytime , when neither the girl , nor her husband/boyfriend/live in partner wanted it , is a very much "Sensitive" thing to do ?

4. Or may be u r saying when the girl already clarified how much she loves her husband & wanted to remarry him only , trying to provoke her against her husband , trying to create misunderstandings between her & her husband was a very "sensitive" thing to do ?

5. & when the girl finally married the person she loves & was really happy in her life , forcefully jumping into her life & trying to make her life hell by using a mentally unstable lady as a mere pawn is another "sensitive" thing do ?

6. Actually lets focus on his mother for a change . Instead of taking care of her medical treatments well , dragging her to the very place where she doesn't want to be at all , shouting mamma's name , mamma's right & what not just to create problem in a happy family & then making an offer to a married girl if u surrender urself to my lust I will throw my mother to dustbin , was another "Sensitive" thing to do 🤢 ??

7. & then the poor girl , who loves her husband like crazy , can't imagine anyone else other than her husband in her life , FORCING her to divorce her husband & come to him , thats also keeping her husband at stake is another "Sensitive" thing to do ?
8. & count in the forceful grabbing of shoulder , arms & trying to kiss her forcefully in spite of the girl's immense disgust 🤢 u wl call it another"Sensitive" activity ?

Iske saath there are many more such chota badha "sensitive" harkatein...couldn include...lammo list ho jayega 🥱 do u still think "Mature" ppl , mainly married women of middle 30-40 found this guy "Sensitive" ? Looks like in ur dictionary "sensitivity" holds some other meaning .


No hard feeling to Avinesh Rekhi from my side on the above comment . May be he's a good actor & may be u r his big fan . We're ok with it . But please ! Just because Avinesh played Sultan it doesn mean Sultan was a great character . Follow the story with OPEN eyes & then try to decide . Just Sultan ok ? No AR .


Excellent reply, Saayniz. The best indicators are the lines in bold. The first indicator itself made audience hate Sultan. RK tying, lifting, kidnapping, locking MB was nothing in comparison to it.

CVs sealed Sultan's fate with the act of using Aryan as a bait. TRP audience never forgot or forgave that. And even if it is said that Sultan was made deliberately negative, the above two indicators were much before the conversion.

A sensitive son would care for his mother's health first, not run after settling scores. Giving precedence over her health and happiness to getting her rights from a dead man's family or the right to be called a dead man's wife (which she would not even realise owing to her mental condition) can not be called sensitive behaviour.

For a sensitive and sensible person, love and responsibilities will always take precedence over hatred and revenge




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Posted: 12 years ago
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ya beating a man to pulp, faking love and marriage, never addressing wife with respect, suspecting wife, using her as a trophy and bait ( when he wanted to trap sultan) is what made sultan look sensitive in comparison. someone observed even after sultan track is almost over, its only sultan being discussed on the forum. so that was the impact which we admit we fell for😳!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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[QUOTE=]ya beating a man to pulp, faking love and marriage, never addressing wife with respect, suspecting wife, using her as a trophy and bait ( when he wanted to trap sultan) is what made sultan look sensitive in comparison

No one praised RK for what he did at that time.

People were sensible and sensitive enough to realise (except a few extreme fans maybe) that what he was doing was wrong.

He also later apologized in words and in deeds.

And SULTAN, THE MAN, who needs someone bad deeds to look sensitive in comparison: I have nothing more to say about it.😆 Just one friendly advise - read your comments at least once before posting😆

. someone observed even after sultan track is almost over, its only sultan being discussed on the forum. so that was the impact which we admit we fell for😳!!

Its not the impact, its the disgust. and the inability to understand why is a character like this appreciated and some provoking comments being made in some places - I hope you understand
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Edited by Poluk - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: avifan1234

Like i said... the age group who are sultan fans are the women who know sensitive guys make better life partners than the flashy ones. I myself am not net savvy or rather DON'T prefer social interaction on net, i prefer real person-to person interaction. but i had to log in just TO express my support for sultan fans, who like me prefer guys who are sensitive to women. SULTAN BEING A GANGSTER WAS INCIDENTAL. but what we fell in love with was the sensitive guy .


One more thing regarding the lines in bold: TRP audience comprises of mature women who know that gangsters are not supposed to be made life partners.

They know that a better life partner is one who can provide stability and security in life. (which a gangster cannot provide even in the wildest dreams). Ask any woman, she will fall laughing on the ground at the idea of marrying a gangster.

The age group you are talking about is the 15-16 year old kids who love to day dream and don't know anything about life's realities. They are immature starry eyed girls not women.
Edited by Poluk - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Poluk

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And SULTAN, THE MAN, who needs someone bad deeds to look sensitive in comparison: I have nothing more to say about it.😆 Just one friendly advise - read your comments at least once before posting😆


Shruti, you rocked, banged and nailed it ! 👏

forget it Shruti..zor ka jhatka zor se lagega hi...few ppl. were praising the CV's endlessly for the molestation/blackmailing scenes of Sultan , more than that, for putting down RK, and now , same ppl. are cursing them 🤪
Edited by _charu_ - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_


Shruti, you rocked, banged and nailed it ! 👏

forget it Shruti..zor ka jhatka zor se lagega hi...few ppl. were praising the CV's endlessly for the molestation/blackmailing scenes of Sultan , more than that, for putting down RK, and now , same ppl. are cursing them 🤪


and the same great CVs have now become puppets in the hands of someone who I think must be having majority shareholding both in NF and Viacom18. That is why they dumped their audience attracting gold mine (as per some) to promote a highly dis-liked character.🤪
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: avifan1234

ya beating a man to pulp, faking love and marriage, never addressing wife with respect, suspecting wife, using her as a trophy and bait ( when he wanted to trap sultan) is what made sultan look sensitive in comparison. someone observed even after sultan track is almost over, its only sultan being discussed on the forum. so that was the impact which we admit we fell for😳!!



Was it for me 😛 ? Lets go one by one .

@Blue r u talking about RK beating Malik ? Well , for you kind information RK didn't send goons to chawl to beat up Malik . It was Malik who forcefully gate crashed in RK's set & tried to attack him & so RK's bodyguards took care of him . Now u wl say Malik came to attack RK bcoz RK spread rumor about Madhu , then I'll say RK spread rumor about Madhu bcoz Madhu poked her nose in his business & sent him to jail & so on...which will take us to begining of this story , where RK was paying a good compensation to Mukund & his family & they were very much happy to take it & sort out the matter out of court . BUT !! Madhu jumped in forcefully , where she had no right to do so & dragged him to lock up . From there all these chain reaction started . RK & Madhu's hate story had a solid base . RK didn't jump in Madhu's life by his own .

& on a second thought did u miss those epis or deliberately forgot them where Bittuji confessed whatever happened to Malik didn't happen on RK's order , but it was him who did it in fit of anger . RK only asked them to show him (Malik) the exit door , but Bittuji made them beat up Malik that way . RK didn even have any idea Malik was beaten up that badly .

@Pink - Are you serious about that ? RK NEVER respected Madhu ? I agree he insulted her many times in fit of anger , but not every time . While she was married to him by four phera , even then he didn tolerate anyone insulting her . Be it Deepali , be it Kukku Bhatia , be it any spot boy on set ... RK always taught others to respect Mrs. Madhubala Rishabh Kundra . & except that a zara dance sequence I don't remember RK insulting her anywhere b4 unwedding took place .

@Green - yes ! Unwedding & faking love ! Thats something RK did for which even RK fans too never supported him . What he did can't be justified ever . That was seriously something very nasty , for which even he himself too suffered a lot , repented hard & PUBLICLY admitted he was wrong , he did wrong & apologised to Madhu . Where in case of Sultan , forget aploging publicly , he doesn even have the guts to show his face to world . Hiding somewhere like a coward & trying to achieve his goal by emotionally blackmailing a weak woman 🤢

@Red - Do you even know the meaning of "Bait" 🤔 ? RK didn keep Madhu at stake to lure Sultan . She just called him to come somewhere , NOTHING more . RK didn't put her in any mortal danger & b4 proceeding with Sultan first made it sure she reaches home safely . He didn't even let a single scratch to occure on her . & the most important thing he didn't do it to murder ppl , or any other anti social activity . He did it to put a WANTED CRIMINAL behind the bar , which from no angle is wrong .


Huh ! I'm done with all your current accusations 😆 just 1 question , if according to you Sultan was really such a great character why can't you defend him WITHOUT dragging someone else's PAST misdeeds 🤔 ?? If without defaming someone else , its impossible to glorify him , what kind of great character he is ? Please from next time don't drag RK to defend Sultan . It only proves Sultan can NOT be defended by his own .


& let me correct you for one more thing . You can see the forum talking about Sultan , but b4 referring it first read the posts carefully . None is appreciating him , all r just too much irked up due to him . Venting out frustration on a character is NOT called "impact" of the character . Its just called disgust 🤢
Edited by _Evil_Angel_ - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Evil_Angel_



Was it for me 😛 ? Lets go one by one .

@Blue r u talking about RK beating Malik ? Well , for you kind information RK didn't send goons to chawl to beat up Malik . It was Malik who forcefully gate crashed in RK's set & tried to attack him & so RK's bodyguards took care of him . Now u wl say Malik came to attack RK bcoz RK spread rumor about Madhu , then I'll say RK spread rumor about Madhu bcoz Madhu poked her nose in his business & sent him to jail & so on...which will take us to begining of this story , where RK was paying a good compensation to Mukund & his family & they were very much happy to take it & sort out the matter out of court . BUT !! Madhu jumped in forcefully , where she had no right to do so & dragged him to lock up . From there all these chain reaction started . RK & Madhu's hate story had a solid base . RK didn't jump in Madhu's life by his own .

& on a second thought did u miss those epis or deliberately forgot them where Bittuji confessed whatever happened to Malik didn't happen on RK's order , but it was him who did it in fit of anger . RK only asked them to show him (Malik) the exit door , but Bittuji made them beat up Malik that way . RK didn even have any idea Malik was beaten up that badly .

@Pink - Are you serious about that ? RK NEVER respected Madhu ? I agree he insulted her many times in fit of anger , but not every time . While she was married to him by four phera , even then he didn tolerate anyone insulting her . Be it Deepali , be it Kukku Bhatia , be it any spot boy on set ... RK always taught others to respect Mrs. Madhubala Rishabh Kundra . & except that a zara dance sequence I don't remember RK insulting her anywhere b4 unwedding took place .

@Green - yes ! Unwedding & faking love ! Thats something RK did for which even RK fans too never supported him . What he did can't be justified ever . That was seriously something very nasty , for which even he himself too suffered a lot , repented hard & PUBLICLY admitted he was wrong , he did wrong & apologised to Madhu . Where in case of Sultan , forget aploging publicly , he doesn even have the guts to show his face to world . Hiding somewhere like a coward & trying to achieve his goal by emotionally blackmailing a weak woman 🤢

@Red - Do you even know the meaning of "Bait" 🤔 ? RK didn keep Madhu at stake to lure Sultan . She just called him to come somewhere , NOTHING more . RK didn't put her in any mortal danger & b4 proceeding with Sultan first made it sure she reaches home safely . He didn't even let a single scratch to occure on her . & the most important thing he didn't do it to murder ppl , or any other anti social activity . He did it to put a WANTED CRIMINAL behind the bar , which from no angle is wrong .


Huh ! I'm done with all your current accusations 😆 just 1 question , if according to you Sultan was really such a great character why can't you defend him WITHOUT dragging someone else's PAST misdeeds 🤔 ?? If without defaming someone else , its impossible to glorify him , what kind of great character he is ? Please from next time don't drag RK to defend Sultan . It only proves Sultan can NOT be defended by his own .


& let me correct you for one more thing . You can see the forum talking about Sultan , but b4 referring it first read the posts carefully . None is appreciating him , all r just too much irked up due to him . Venting out frustration on a character is NOT called "impact" of the character . Its just called disgust 🤢

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 You replied with the exact facts I wanted to tell to this TM maker!😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Did you notice what Dipali said yesterday, with reference to Sultan kidnapping Madhu? That very soon, Madhubala will be with him, running from one place to another. Meaning ...that is the life Madhu will have with Sultan hiding and running from city to city. Wow..is that the kind of life a woman, any woman, would like to have? That was established from day 1...that Sultan was a man on the run. The man has been around for 6 months. In what way is he ideal, sensitive husband material?? how does he treat his son, his mother?? What has he done for Madhu and her family?? I mean, really, what exactly has he done to merit the 'ideal husband' award??
And please, for a moment do not compare him to RK...you don't have to use RK as a crutch to explain SUltan's greatness, if he can indeed stand on his own.

as a man asking for the hand of a girl in marriage, please explain what are his attributes??? Mind you, he was not even waiting for marriage, i am saying marriage, he wanted Madhu in his life, with him,spend the night with him etc etc.

The reason I am writing a reply, is to vent my own frustration at this character. And I will stop here, as you rightly pointed out, we're giving the character too much attention.


Edited by Soundarya22 - 12 years ago

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