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Posted: 12 years ago
How could SRK episode work out with spoilers like "R.K Madhu's last day". "Madhu signs Divroce paper"", R.K on bail for 2 days" Any track should have some basic logic. If not logic the end should be dreamy and pleasant so that we could ignore creative liberty. Here Superstar has turned into a common criminal overnight and a gangster manipulates the police, judiciary. Height of mockery. I don't want to start on the heroine. There is a limit to take viewers for granted Thank GOd people did not buy SRK hoopla. I thought SRK will postpone the imminent disaster. As I said there are plenty of promo tours with SRK. to watch . Why spoil the mood and fun with a gloomy track and ever crying heroine?. GH should be happy. People follow his advice.Used the remote. cvS are in total mess.Lost their golden choice by spoiling the wedding with Bhai story. At this stage it is a tall order to revive the show. Poor DVD.Talent wasted. . I can't make out their desperation for Bhai's character after repeated failures. They must be in a delusional world and fail to connect trp fall with Bhai. This week our heroine has declared her love for sultan to her husband and in laws. Waiting for next week's TRP's
Edited by subashni - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Updated the weekly TRP chart. The top 10 chart is now a top 15 chart, since MB at #13.

MB TRPs are approx. 2.2 rounded (based on rough conversion from TVTs to TRPs.) TVTs were 4,396 vs. 4,884 the week prior. The TRP chart tells its own pathetic story, no words are necessary.

However, can't resist saying this to the channel and PH:
  • You had THE superstar on your show, interest in his new film was sky high (look at those box office collections) and you totally messed up.
  • Dragging this track interminably (even with spoilers of LV's potential exit) is not going to get TRPs back. Close this out, redeem the lead characters that you have successfully butchered, and come up with something cool (that does not mean cringeworthy or disgusting) for your next track.
  • And please do make a note to self - women do not like to see a woman being terrorized, victimized and manhandled for episodes on end.

Note: Data converted from TVTs to TRPs from week 31. Does not take into consideration impact of adding new markets at various points. Size of these markets, viewing patterns, demographics, level of digitization etc. of those markets would impact TRPs. Also, hard to judge IPL's exact impact.


The two charts below show: 1) Top 10 shows TRPs and 2) TRP increase/drop for those shows, compared to the week prior. The blue bars on the second chart are the ones that did better, the red are the ones that did worse, and the no bars are the ones that were the same.

Most shows did worse compared to to the week prior. But MB's situation was different because of the big ME that was promoted, but that did not seem to have raised TRPs overall.




PS: all my usual caveats apply - this is a rough analysis etc. etc. Feel free to point out the holes (I freely admit there's probably some!)

Edited by river123 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
@river

about women not liking another woman victimized. Yes. in general. But I think CV's are under the assumption MB viewers would not object even might like it. R.K started as a grey character. He harassed the heroine in the earlier episodes. So they made sultan into R.K with similar scenarios, dialogues. outfits and mannerisms. But R.K had reason for his vengeance as Madhu meddled with him. He married her and yet was not lecherous. Theirs was a mutual love hate story. Now Sultan harassing a married woman with lewd intention is different issue and disgusting . Failing to gauge this difference they tried to create R.K's aura by making him powerful Mumbai ka sultan. and fell flat. .Result was opposite. I don't think they have a solid story or back up .track. if Sultan exits. So this track is dragged.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: subashni

@river


about women not liking another woman victimized. Yes. in general. But I think CV's are under the assumption MB viewers would not object even might like it. R.K started as a grey character. He harassed the heroine in the earlier episodes. So they made sultan into R.K with similar scenarios, dialogues. outfits and mannerisms. But R.K had reason for his vengeance as Madhu meddled with him. He married her and yet was not lecherous. Theirs was a mutual love hate story. Now Sultan harassing a married woman with lewd intention is different issue and disgusting . Failing to gauge this difference they tried to create R.K's aura by making him powerful Mumbai ka sultan. and fell flat. .Result was opposite. I don't think they have a solid story or back up .track. if Sultan exits. So this track is dragged.


Subashni, I think there was a fundamental difference between showing what they did with RK, and what they are showing with Sultan. RK married Madhu - ergo the audience automatically assumed that there will be a romance between the two - they are after all husband and wife. So post-wedding, RK's behavior and their fiery interactions, all served to accentuate the romantic tension between the two. Even in the immediate couple of weeks after the unwedding, before they showed Sultan's entry, despite RK's behavior, there was enough of a spark between the two, the feel that there was love between them, the perception that they were still married, that made the situation acceptable for the viewer - because they just knew that it was a matter of time before the two got together again (Sultans's ill-timed and badly constructed entry botched the rhythm of that story, and thats when the decline began.)

On the other hand with Sultan, the same behavior takes on a totally different meaning - this is about violating the space of a married woman who is in love with her husband. Core values like decency, respect for women, the sanctity of the institution of marriage, things that people hold dear are now threatened. The audience reacts with distaste, and acts accordingly - with their remotes. BTW, I'm not even going into detail into the other issue of Madhu's ambiguous behavior prior to the second wedding - which I think also caused tremendous damage - and repelled the audience.

It will be just to bad if the CVs are out of ideas. Maybe they need to read some of the fan-fics on this forum to get some inspiration. Or go on a vacation and recharge. Or get fresh blood in.
Edited by river123 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
@river

You have put more beautifully what I wanted to express.👏. Sultan can never be R.K. all the tracks fail because they want to make him one. He is the central character under the disguise of villain. Has the dialogue writer changed?. Who writes this stupid dialogues? what do they want to convey/ i am puzzled.
Edited by subashni - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
The latest tweet from Nautanki Telefilms.🥱
This should be a guideline to how to insist on trying for illusion of suspense, when actual non-reassuringly contradicted suspense in the track is more terrifying for the PH and channel than the audience.


Nautanki Films ?@NautankiFilms

Deepali and Sultan are working hand in hand to ensure RK and Madhu get divorced. Will they succeed ? #Madhubala


Edited by leelaa9 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: leelaa9

The latest tweet from Nautanki Telefilms.🥱
This should be a guideline to how to insist on trying for illusion of suspense, when actual non-reassuringly contradicted suspense in the track is more terrifying for the PH and channel than the audience.


Nautanki Films ?@NautankiFilms

Deepali and Sultan are working hand in hand to ensure RK and Madhu get divorced. Will they succeed ? #Madhubala



As if it is something exciting to look forward...and as if our clever lead couple are going to give them back.
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Posted: 12 years ago
From the MEIEJ TRP Thread #2.
Credit to -Aakash- and Manonids.😊


The two SRK episodes and the one after that were the only ones which managed to get past 2.0.
So if not for the SRK effect, we'd probably have averaged 2.0 or 1.9.


Originally posted by: -Aakash-

Week 32 Breakdown

5th August 1.98 🤢 Paddy Madhu scene
6th August 2.04 RK yelling on
7th August 2.23 (SRK)😳 Party Starts
8th August 2.36 (SRK)😳 Titli dance
9th August 2.27 Sullu Madhu Convo...Sullu as Peeping Tom..in RishBala scenes
10th August 2.05 RK back to Jail

Average : 2.15

Its cleary visible that show is already hanging around 2.0..so it high time Cvs wake up and bring the ratings above 2.5 atleast



Originally posted by: Manonids

1.98 = 5th August - Monday...RK returned from Jail ...Madhu fainted ...Sultaan blackmail continues ...Madhu distances herself from RK ...RK-Bittu G conversation ...RAdha-Madhu in kitchen ...

2.04 = 6th August - Tuesday ...RK-Bittu G conversation continues ...Radha comes with Halwa ...RK-Radha fight ...RK leaves in anger ...

2.23 = 7th August - Wednesday ...RK at shooting ...Sultaan blackmailing continues ...RK-Madhu dream bike ride ...SRK party invitation followed by his entry ..

2.36 = 8th August - Thursday ...SRK party celebration ...haunted by Sultaan

2.27 = 9th August - Friday ...Sultaan blackmails Madhu again on the terrace ...RK -Madhu scenes on terrace and in the bed room...

2.05 = 10th August - Saturday ...RK probes Madhu again in the morning ...breakfast scene ...Police comes ...RK arrested again ...Madhu decides to give divorce ...

PS: I can be wrong at some places ...Please someone cross check !


Edited by leelaa9 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: leelaa9

From the MEIEJ TRP Thread #2.

5th August 1.98 🤢 Paddy Madhu scene
6th August 2.04 RK yelling on
7th August 2.23 (SRK)😳 Party Starts
8th August 2.36 (SRK)😳 Titli dance
9th August 2.27 Sullu Madhu Convo...Sullu as Peeping Tom..in RishBala scenes
10th August 2.05 RK back to Jail


So 40+ lakhs for barely 10-15% increase in daily ratings over two days. They probably made some of it up in pre-selling ads at a premium (although in the future advertisers will be more careful.) And they did get the bragging advantage of snagging a high profile star on the show.
Edited by river123 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
There are so many bloopers. The first and most obvious is whh isn't she going to the freakin morgue and asking to see Sultans dead body. It might not prove to the world that Sultans dead, but it'll at least get RKs brains going. When that godawful idiot made his way into RK Dharmshala why didn't she use the knife to stab the guy in the stomach, or just fatally wound the guy. She wouldn't have to kill the guy but at least she would be able to prove to Radha and Bittuji that Sultan is alive.

Re TRPs:Ever since May/June, where the CVs have been trying to shuffle around various storylines/characters to accomodate this character, their mentality has been this. We are willing to accept TRPs in the 2s as long as they are stable. So they figured all we have to do to boost TRPs is feed the audience big fat lollipops. That's what the Holi episodes were...pretty soon that didn't work for long so they played the wedding card, making sure it was promotedWell in advance. They got that much needed boost, but then still showed what they wanted to show. Next, they tried showing those lollipop romantic "honeymoon" scenes. Didnt work, so they finally relented, made the character a villain, and for about two episodes they made Madhu fight for husband. Then they fed the audience another lollipop again with RK shooting Sultan, and sure enough people took their bait and TRPs rose. Then, they figured a sure temporary TRP booster would be bringing in a huge star like SRK. They suddenly remembered their show was about Bollywood and claimed it fit right into their storyline. Pictures were published in national publications, SRK himself promoted the show numerous times on twitter, which has 4 million viewers, various promos were released by the channel a week well in advance, and yet TRPs didn't just stay the same, they went down and they are now kicked out of the top ten. So the CVs stratrgy of feeding lollipops for one or two episodes and going back to the way things were is not going to work anymore and they seriously have lost their ability to gauge the pulse of the average viewer. If they want this show to be successful and plan to keep it running, then they better do something about it quickly. Agar itni himmat hai then show the divorce becoming official, show Madhu running off with Sultan. Otherwise show RK using his brain and Madhu not taking crap from a gangster, but for godsakes stop wavering in this in between filler space.
Edited by tsk786 - 12 years ago

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