Episode 313 Discussion: 2nd July 2013 - Page 4

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Posted: 12 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: _charu_


mujhe yeh nahi samajh aata how will this affect RK adversely? his father betrayed a woman..uspar rona hai? 🤢 now the man is dead...in today's times when real brothers cannot stay under one roof, how is he obliged to keep another step family with him ? baap ke paap ka prayashchit karna hai? 🤢 i still feel there is a twist somewhere..Radha was told that Meera is gone from MK's life..MK never told her that he stole Meera's baby? and that Meera is in asylum? 😕

I have deaddicted from the show...but am still addicted to the forum...
@Bold: He is not ...but Madhu is going to insist on it thus frustating him and Sultan ofcourse will use this opportunity to stay in RM. If RK does not know the truth ...he is going to misinterpret Madhu's increasing attachment to Sultan and Co. When he does find out ...it will become a trust issue. He will deal with it in what ever way he deems correct and might actually end up surprising everyone. Having said that there is no proof yet that Sultan is Meera's son or MK's son.
For me this plot was more about Madhu showing her growth and coming across as a strong partner to RK. So far... she has failed spectacularly...all her actions and emotions have been illogical.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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with all the clunk and loopholes we shall soon have to collectively occupy bed number 155 (meera's bed number), but one thing as a twist I see in al this is that this must be a plot of Rashid and a fake "meera" to get money from RK and use sultan as a gullible fool to get work done. many of the loop hopes can be answered if:
1] meera is a fake meera, see its only Rashid who says this is your mother meera
2] they showed another actress who was meera in the FBs, which we though was a way of showing a younger meera, but come on faces do not change so much in 30 odd years. so that must be the true meera, who is really gone from MK's and radha's life
3] Rashid and fake meera had to invent the story of blue eyed boy -defying laws of genetics and winning the powerball of odds of getting a blue eyed boy with neither parent with blue eyes...only to convince sultan that he is MK's son
4] they must some how have come to know of sultan's rivalry and anger against RK
5] Could they be our missing Bujang's plan some how to kill many birds with one stone, sultan made the fool, get money from RK, and hurt madhu for she dared point a gun at him?
I know its probably all wishful thinking, but only think that could explain a lot of clunk and prove RK right and restore MK's character😭
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33
Radhaji -- I can't fault her. When MK revealed the truth to her, he said that he had settled everything with Meera. That she was his past. And as such I can't fault her for giving the man a second chance and for keeping things hidden. After all, what is to be gained? Nothing. Now however, with Meera in front of her, she too has to question all MK told her.

I don't know why everyone wants to hide everything from RK. There was a time when Madhu started her revenge, I was worried about his reaction. And those episodes and RK's handling of the situation has made me feel much more secure now. However, there is the fact that this time around it will be a multi-pronged attack. MK, Radhaji, Madhu - all know, his entire "choti si duniya". Sultan is ready to rub salt on his wounds.

Madhu -- While her handling of Dipali is well and good, she can use RK's trust as a weapon and shield for only so long. If she keeps things hidden from RK, after promising not to do so, how long will that trust last? How strong will it remain?

Dipali -- I don't think Madhu's threat will hold her off. If anything she will grow more desperate to bring Madhu down, and render Madhu's advantage to zero. I am sure she hasn't forgotten, that Madhu had lied after the Bollywood party. That time too it was a similar situation. Whose side will RK take this time?

Sultan -- When you live in MK's son's home, you can't expect there to be no photos of MK. Despite even the hosts best efforts, there will always be some photo somewhere which they don't notice. He should have thought of this before getting Meera here.
Edited by Angeena - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#34
Yayy mb found long lost pair of kangan now mb will fight all odds n solve n bring back kandan ka saman d kangan back by keeping even her saman at stake;-(:-Dmads meera ko pakdo mumma boy cant say no:-D
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Red_Opium

I'm still puzzled over Sultan's decision 😕. Your mom faints and needs medical attention, why route yourself towards the bedroom in RK's mansion instead of emergency room or some doctor specialized in gangster family treatment ? This guy really feels at home here and has no intention of leaving anytime soon 🤢

For the first time I felt proud of Madhu for standing up to Dips, Bravo!!! I hope Madhu continues to perceive Dips and her conning ways with the same flair of anger.


@bold - From the precap, it seems Sultan is back at his home with Meera. Green colored walls and yellow / "golden" (can't resist that word) curtains is the decor of the room Meera is laying in and I don't think I have seen this at RK mansion, right?
Edited by blacklambo - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#36
Madbala's priorities have taken a hike, she hasn't learned from her past mistakes, and isn't willing to fight against the rest of the world for the sake of her husband. and then the CVs expect this track to hit jackpot with the audience. Its almost as if they are mocking the TRP audience saying "here this is what you like right?" and then expect that the audiences aren't smart enough to realize it.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I would prefer that RK be made aware of the truth bcoz -

* Betrayal from a near and dear one hurts more than a betrayal from a outsider. This was more or less Madhu's reasoning too.

* To hide truth, one ends up lying and in order to protect a lie, one ends up lying even more. The spiral continues till truth comes out in the open. That's why I am not too keen on Rji's proposal (don't know what it is) without involving RK in it.

* How can anyone trust other people like Dips, who are aware of the truth and they won't use it to further their interests? It is always better to lay the cards on the table and let the chips fall where they may.

But since this is Nautanki Films drama, a different kind of show, will they follow this path?

Falling TRP's and messages sent to the Triumvirate should be a clear indication of what the viewers want to see. If both the factors are overlooked, this would spell doom for the show, if not already.

Edited by blacklambo - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#38
This is something I wrote is another thread. Although it is not strictly pertaining to yesterday's episode it discusses the ramifications of what they showed yesterday.
What would Sultan gain by racking up the past which is clearly disturbing even to Meera?
She is pining for her son and not for her wayward husband. If he had kept her with him and allowed her to slowly become attached to his family, she could have recovered fully and be the loving mother to him and grandmother to his son. Aryan would have got the much needed female influence in his life. Sultan's motives, however, are not so noble. Although he keeps saying he wants justice for his mother and her identity back, he has gone about it in the wrong way. What was he hoping to achieve by forcefully making them stay in RK Mansion? He does not want her to know it is MK's house. He is apprehensive that she will see his picture or hear his name. So in effect he knows that she hates the man and does not want to do anything with him. So why thrust him on her and her on RK and the rest of the family?
As to getting back her identity, how was he planning to do that? And what is her identity? Wife of a scoundrel who is not alive anymore to accord the status of a wife in front of all? Isn't it more humiliating to have anything to do with a two timer? I think when MK ditched Meera, she could have sullied his image in public because he was a big producer but she did not because she wanted to lead a life with her son. It is only after that son was taken from her that she went mad. Note that she did not go mad after MK ditched her. Motherhood was more important to her than being the wife of someone as unworthy as MK. By helping to restore that motherhood and now grandmotherhood, Sultan could have got back her identity. Instead Sultan has spoilt for a fight with the man to whom he lost the woman he loves. So is his motive really sacred? I think not.
A gangster who was leading an undercover life till recently suddenly wants to be in the eye of the public by barging into a superstar's house and forcefully living there. If tomorrow his rival gang members kill him, would Meera not lose her son and his son not lose his father. Would that not have a very bad effect on the mother for whom he is fighting now?
So revealing the truth achieves nothing but pain for Sultan's family.
It has already hurt RK's family and Radha is an emotional mess. The poor woman held her tongue and refused to bad mouth her late husband to her son even when he shunned and humiliated her so badly for moving on with another man after her husband's death. She could have easily justified her remarriage, saying that if his father could have married again when the first wife was still alive and even beget a child why could she not do so after her husband's death? She did not do so because she cared for her son and knew how much he respected and loved his father. She tried to keep his memory of him intact and took the flake for it for 16 years. If Madhu had not come along and changed RK's mind, he would have continued to shun her for the rest of his life and she was even prepared to face that.
If the truth reaches RK, he will be shattered. He may be an adult with a high IQ but his emotional quotient is pretty low. He has just begun to realize the strength of relationship and is beginning to exhibit his emotions freely without fearing he will lose it all. If he comes to know that the one man whom he had held in high regard during all his dark years when he was struggling to come to terms with the realities of his life, he will definitely go into deep depression. What is worse is that not only will he have to digest his father's sins but he will have to digest the fact that Sultan, the man he hates the most, is his half brother. I think that will hurt him more. If he breaks down, Madhu will shatter too. Now does Sultan who claims to be Madhu's friend want to see her in that state? What sort of a friend is he?
In sum, by thrusting himself into their lives, Sultan has shown he is neither a good son, a good father or even a good friend.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#39
Here is an attempt to fit the story narrated by Rashid, Meera and Radha to the timelines.
MK, a philanderer met and married Meera, got her pregnant but ditched her when he was going through financial problems. He married Radha for the money and when Meera had her son, took him away, entrusting him to Rashid, fearing she may reveal his duplicity to his wife. In a year, he had RK and showered him with a lot of love. A few years later (maybe when RK was around 4 and Sultan was around 5) MK went through a bad patch financially with his films flopping at the box office. He couldn't afford to pay the high maintenance he was paying Rashid so he stopped paying him. Rashid may have threatened to reveal the truth to Radha. So MK himself revealed it to her and somehow convinced her that all this was in the past. Radha wanted to let bygones be bygones for she did not want to ruin her family life.
Since Rashid was not getting money for looking after Sultan, he may have quarrelled with Nadia, asking her to abandon Sultan. When she did not, he abandoned both of them. Sultan lost Nadia when he was eight and ended up in the wrong side of law.
In the meantime, RK grew in a loving family, unsuspecting of his father's true face. Rashid may have struck again and during RK's 12th birthday he may have threatened to reveal the truth to him. MK may not have had the money to pay him off. Yes, he had a plot of land in a prime locality of the city on which RK Mansion stands today, but real estate transactions take time and Rashid could have blackmailed him to giving the money immediately. The coward scoundrel couldn't face up to his past sins and took the easy way out by killing himself. When the suicide hit the headlines, Rashid may have gone in hiding because he got worried of getting caught for abetting a suicide. That is why the truth was buried for 17 years.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: 4EVRoptimist

with all the clunk and loopholes we shall soon have to collectively occupy bed number 155 (meera's bed number), but one thing as a twist I see in al this is that this must be a plot of Rashid and a fake "meera" to get money from RK and use sultan as a gullible fool to get work done. many of the loop hopes can be answered if:

1] meera is a fake meera, see its only Rashid who says this is your mother meera


speculations are not allowed in this thread but if therez a twist, it's the other way round..Sultan may be using Meera and Rashid for gaining access to RK and Madhu's life (for whatever unknown reason) ..acc. to the spoilers, Dips spot a pic. of MK and Meera so lets see whether she is this Meera or some other Meera (Radha never met her) ..even if this lady is Meera, the girl who MK married, Sultan cannot prove that he is their son...Meera may have lot of proofs against MK but Sultan cannot prove his identity...

@Opti, awesome post..👏 agree with you that it's lose lose situation for Sultan..we've discussed the same in the last 2 weeks..

@Anita, we never know Madhu might tell RK, or he might come to know through Dipali very soon...I'm sure he will understand the reason behind hiding the truth but he may not like Madhu and Radha's stand..agree with Opti here that more than his father's betrayal, he'll be hurt with the fact that Sultan is his brother 🤢

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