Episode 303 Discussion: 20th June 2013 - Page 2

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Dear All,

Can we please keep page 1 and page 2 a little uncluttered by restricting ourselves to one review, and then if you want to post additional thoughts or responses to other's reviews, just wait for a teeny little bit? That way others can also post their reviews, and the first couple of pages can be a nice read of different perspectives? And your responses and additional thoughts can come after that.

Thanks so much! 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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A filler episode and a start of the RK vs Sultan track

For the most of the episode, RM were present in their guest appearance role. Hardly one min of their shot of discussion of past memories. I particularly dont like such comparison scenes. One minute in RK mansion and one minute in Sultan's home. It breaks the continuity and is pointless. CVs are trying to garner sympathy for Sultan by showing that he had such a sad childhood vs RK who had some happy memories with his dad. 🤢 I think its high time, they stop glorifying their favorite character and stop trying to earn sympathy. These efforts are definately not giving the required results. Infact, it is giving the opposite result.
ZW is a seasoned actress and was really good. Because of her presence, sultan-meera's scenes become tolerable. But cant take too much of overdose. She was in asylum for 30 years, a mental patient with violent streak and now she is all fine and giving advice to gangster.! talk about super sonic recovery!

Sultan is taking revenge from RK. But what has RK done? Basically, he is taking revenge due to his personal grudges. Asking for rights for mom is just an excuse. It is his personal hatred with RK coz of what RK had said to him, RK had punched him and how RK took away madhu - thats the reason for him to take revenge. The logic is certainly missing. He wants to be the one to do aahuti in havan coz he is MK's son but in precap he is the one who is smashing MK's portrait and as seen in offsrceen vdos - he will want to stay in RK mansion coz it is built on land owned by MK! No logic at all!! 🤪

Sikky scenes are always funny. He gives comic relief to the show. His presence is similar to the presence of comedians in old movies like Rajendra (forget his full name) Jagdeep - to provide some funny moments in drama. I really like his scenes! I hope that he gets successful in his business. Also, watching his reactions when he sees sultan, He didnot look happy. Hopefully, he will stand by his brother. Because there is no doubt who dipali is going to support.

RK is apologizing for not starting his dad's studio before. Big portrait , havan, RK sharing his childhood memories - All this to re-emphasize that he worships & idolizes his father. Bigger the importance - bigger will be the hurt!

Couldnot decipher what is madhu's reaction when she sees sultan.

ETA - VD looks dashing in white! The way he stares!!! VD has awesome screen presence. Couldnot take eyes off him. One can clearly see whose stare is more stern and aggressive.

Precap - Dishum Dishum! Old movies style! Wherez my popcorn bucket?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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The serial has changed track...it has become a family drama, and needs to be reviewed as such when compared with other serials. Otherwise, we will all be hitting our heads against the walls everyday, if we continue to watch. And continue to watch, we will😆😆

Meera seems completely normal, understands Sultan and tries to comfort him, as she senses his unhappiness. Sultan is in tears, with her affection. He even calls her 'ma' and she answers..ha beta...! Kaka comes to Sultan and asks him what he plans to do, tell RK?? Sultan answers...he hates RK. Umm, right.!!, we know why. Kaka reminds him, RK is his step brother. Sultan glares his effective, blue eyed glare and walks off.

Same night, RK is happy that he is opening his father's studio. He shares with Madhu his fond memories of Sitara Studio.Next morning, the Kundra and Bhatia family comes to the studio. RK unveils a portrait of MK, sits for the pooja. Sultan arrives...and as RK begins the aahuti, he holds the same spoon. The family is stunned.

I liked:
  • Radhaji's and Sikky's interaction: she treats him like a little child, and he is so besharam.
  • Sikky trying to rope Bittuji in as his first client.😆,this is the comic track interspersed in the middle of the tense drama😆. The scenes are funny thanks to Bittji and Sikky's effortless comic timing.
  • Drama quotient very high today...part 2 and 3 was filled with Sultan- RK glaring at each other with thunder, and other khatarnak background. RK's glare...kya style hai😊. Bring it on, I'm ready for the drama.
  • Finally, I can say that i did'nt get bored with Sultan because he is good in his gajini avtar (grinding teeth) as opposed to Devdas or sad beta avtars.
Clunk section (polite rant):😆
  • It was like Sultan never knew Madhu. All those dosti ke vaade, have gone up in smoke. Thank God, I'm not complaining, but just stating what I noticed😆
  • Rishbala on the backburner for a while...all the best DD, am expecting a 30 hereon, from every performance😆





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Posted: 12 years ago
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I know the purpose of the Sultan-Meera and Rk-Madhu scene was to highlight the contrast in the childhood the 2 sons had but I was disappointed.
Because, I cant come to terms with this sudden extreme emotion in Sultan and how he has totally forgotten the mother who raised him until she died knowing he is not her son, she loved just like her own.. Why couldnt he tell his mom how he is indebted to another woman who gave him a mother's love? He just doesnt remember anything about his childhood? rashid obviously would have spent the money on alcohol.. so this woman nazia inspite of being poor never regretted her decision to take this child... Sultan's nazia memories are just when his golden heart has to be demonstarted in some hollow dialogues like how nazia will always be his mom.. his bond with his new mother hence doesnt move me at all...

Rk-Madhu scene felt like just a filler...

I like that even though MK is suddenly prominent because of the track... when it comes to RK side it doesnt look like overdose.. what seems clunk when it comes to sultan is somehow justifiable with RK.. like only due to the track sitara studio reopening is being shown... but with RK i dont feel like it is contrived.. because in true sense he has only recently reconciled with his issues, past and everything.. so i feel now he is in a happy place to start the studios which he has been running away from...
I also like how the way he spoke about the studio and his dad was understated.. not too OTT and melodramatic..

But I am still not sure if I am okay with this change to a family drama.. I signed up for a love story... honestly I dont like this shift... if i will continue to watch it or not depends on how they portray RK... obviously... 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Don't know what kind of an episode it was.. I guess I was impatient for the action to start and here they were still trying to build the base...

Anyways the revenge ki dastaan continues in the show...

Finally kisi ne toh Bittuji ke shaadi ke baare mein socha😆 Sikky has a good comic sense.. Am liking it...

Sultan says that his childhood memories are a lie, and that he had no good ones... Arey bhai Naziya ne toh bade pyar aur laad se hi parvarish ki thi na... CV's have been bitten by the amnesia bug very badly... Symapthy factor is not gonna work CV's!!!!
But otherwise the Sultan-meera scene was nice and AR did a good job... Even otherwise, I think his aggressive/hate-wala expressions are better..

Uff finally Sultan has claimed that he hates Rk and that is what is driving him towards the revenge...
And is it bcoz Rk had a luxurious, comfortable life and he was deprived of a grand life..
Coz the memories he conjures are their first meeting where he says RK-superstar, right kameena.. then comes their face-off where RK was unfazed by Sultu pointing gun at him, and then the family surname, ah the famous punch oops public humiliation...
Family surname is a crap one as he did have a surname with the society acknowledging him as rashid-naziya son.. Never mind CV's , i get it...


Phan-gurl moment: VD was damn good in the white kurta... Though the second-half was dragged, I liked the way RK turned his neck to look towards Sultan...

ETA: about the TRP falling from 3.1(supposed shaadi spl) to 2.9(actual shaadi epi) ... Serves the CV's and the channel right for having cheated the viewers with the shaadi special promo... You think only you can show revenge in the show... hahaha even viewers know to take revenge for small-small things, aakhir we watch the show😈


Edited by zoya_naziya - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Set-up episode for the rest of the week.
  • Sikky has identified his guinea pig client. None other than our very own Bittuji. I foresee fun times ahead.
  • Sultan hates RK. Flashbacks of interactions - humiliating and otherwise. However, noticed that they were careful not to show scenes of Madhu declaring she loved RK, nor the wedding day. Hmm..have they dumped that angle? But it is clear Sultan's revenge against MK and his family is going to be driven by his hate for RK.
  • Contrasting memories of two very different childhoods. One filled with father's memories, the other – barren.
  • Beautiful to see the bond that Sultan and Meera have established. Her words like soothing balm on his parched hardened soul, bringing real tears to his eyes. And in turn, the miraculous effect that he seems to have had on her sanity.
  • Move over Hauslon se veer – Chanda hai tu has taken over!
  • RK and Madhu at Sitara studio looking unbelievably gorgeous. RK unveils MK's picture. The entire family watching, happy. Gets ready to start the havan with the ahuti, but oops – Sultan makes his grand entry and also holds on to the spoon. RK gives his fabulous RK glare (no one does it better…) Sultan declares that he is MK's son to the stunned onlookers. Dip's expression maliciously gleeful.

The precap: Sultan smashes MK's picture. Obviously, the ahuti part was just for dramatic effect. Fight! Fight!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Added an ETA to my post

ETA: On the TRP falling from 3.1(supposed shaadi spl) to 2.9(actual shaadi epi) ... Serves the CV's and the channel right for having cheated the viewers with the shaadi special promo... You think only you can show revenge in the show... hahaha even viewers know to take revenge for small-small things, aakhir we watch the show😈

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Posted: 12 years ago
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The clunk continues and will continue to from the look of things! Sultan's hatred for RK is not justified in any way! He should hate MK, why RK? Except for RK's below hand shot at Sultan's surname and punch, (which he should have retaliated to at that time, if it bothered him so much), there is no reason for Sultan to hate RK so much! Where as RK is more justified, because it looked like Sultan was hitting on his wife after all! As for Meera, she really does not seem to be mentally ill at all, maybe just disoriented in time I guess then! The mother son bonding scenes were laid on a little too thick, for obviously garnering points for Sultan! It does not work that way, RK's short scene with Madhu turned out to be more effective, for the simple fact that it was not OTT! The confrontation scene was good! VD has so much of screen presence that I missed Sultan's reactions or lack thereof!

Precap: Again seems very filmy, but then that's the style of the show!
Edited by amrithas - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: zoya_naziya




Phan-gurl moment: VD was damn good in the white kurta... Though the second-half was dragged, I liked the way RK turned his neck to look towards Sultan...


Zoya, this is for you..

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Posted: 12 years ago
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All my views on the episode have been expressed by sangeet6690 and Shazzie and Soundarya22.
Whatever I write will be a REPEAT of what they wrote.

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I must say I liked the episode very much.
Balanced it was. I was remembering old time DD serial Junoon, where the junoon for Badla keeps building up between two feuding men with wonderful families of their own.

However in here, Sultan is just GROSS. He is a HYPOCRIT who does not even have the GUTS to say I Hate RK for what he is. He started eyeing Madhu only after he saw a frantic RK sitting at the Chawl Gate waiting for Madhu's return, as she seemed such a good bet to hurt RK.

Throughout his entry, it had always been his UNDERLYING AIM to HURT RK through STABBING PAIN from BEHIND like a psychotic man and NOT A FRONTAL ATTACK like a Normal man.

His excuses to enter RK Space was being a friend cum hone-waala future pati to Madhu and now a son to a Meera. And why does he want to enter RK Space, because he wants to become RK.

From the beginning, he made RK his target by actually asking Madhu to be quiet else her husband RK's life is in danger. That passed with Madhu saying nothing to do with RK, don't drag him in our dealings, he entered her life so that RK can then notice him. And that's it when RK noticed him, all was fine. He continued to hurt RK, until RK stopped responding and Madhu asked him to leave. When Madhu as a prop ended, he found another Prop in MEERA and now again targeting RK.

Sultan is one obsessed guy and his Obsession is RK. Mumbai ka Sultan is not enough for him. SULTAN WANTS TO BE RK.

So this is it. RK ka jeena haraam kar do, kisi bhi tareeke se. When one is obsessed and his aim to make the other's life a HELL, then LOGIC flies away. Don't we all know, how some maniacs do BE-SIR-PAIR ki baaten karte hain ? Sultan is that case. IF RK retreats from fight, he will have a problem and he will incite RK to inflame him. Because all he wants is to have RK suffer.

So that is Sultan's strategy. First get close to RK, then incite him with anything that is ethically wrong. When RK leaves him thinking him as a shameless person and thinking how to deal with him, Sultan will go for another ethically wrong HIT. Basically his plan is not to allow RK to rest.

BASS ji...this is like a CIVIL CASE of property Dispute, where someone wrongfully claims the property as theirs and the owners end up having to prove that property belongs to them. This is now RK's story in Sultan's hands. CASE chalta hi rahega. Because perpetrators have always a plan and they have abundant tricks in their bag. See how he had ensnared Madhu through his son and now his dukhiyaara face to woo Meera. Basji...all magarmach ke aansoo hai...Poor Nazia, what a pity that you raised an AhsaanFaramosh baccha. He calls you a jhoot. Can a good person, a good son ever do that to a dead woman's memory who died saving you ?

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I liked the INTERSPERSION of SIKKY-RADHAJI and BITTUJI drama very much. Finally they are using supporting characters. I hysterically laughed around Sikky scenes. I am so happy his scenes were not with Dips. It was endearing to see Radhaji and Sikky. Oh! I so wish Sikky succeeds and please someone help him. He is really a nincompoop as far as intelligence goes. But he is great as a person. And yes, I was reminded of comic characters like Rajinder Nath and Jadgeep, who have their own space within the content of the film.

I wish this goes on.

Because, we cannot just have the ridiculous Sultan driving RK mad.

I also want all the people in RK Mansion saying in UNISION to RK that SULTAN is just a MAD Fellow and out to pester RK and that they all should have a plan to deal with him. I want RK to share a joke everytime Sultan plays another dirty trick to bring him down.

When we were slapped with Sec 498A, first we panicked. Later on as we started dealing with it, every new trick by the other party used to make us laugh thinking at what kind of compromise amount they were looking for and which properties and monies were being aimed at. We used to laugh though it used to trouble us also, as to how to protect our interests.

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Its so clear now. There is a Mad Man out to become an RK. So he tries to go for everything that RK does and has. COPYCAT.

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