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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: likarsh


No, he didn't know she had a husband. Again and again this has been brought up, and again and again we've explained her status as she herself explained to Sultan was that she was not back with RK genuinely, and that she was planning on breaking his heart. Before that, she had told Sultan RK was no longer her husband.



Sultan knew that Madhu was married on the day he dropped her. Have you forgotten Kaka telling him that she was RK's wife? While leaving her back at the chawl he even threatened her that if she reveals who he is, he will harm her husband. This shows that Sultan knew Madhu has a husband and he thought that she cared for him enough to not want him harmed. So Sultan not knowing that she had a husband is not tenable. It is being brought up again and again because Sullu was lusting for the woman long before he knew the state of her marriage and that she wanted to break RK's heart. In fact he has been day dreaming about her on the very day he performed his wife's barsi.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Opti



Sultan knew that Madhu was married on the day he dropped her. Have you forgotten Kaka telling him that she was RK's wife? While leaving her back at the chawl he even threatened her that if she reveals who he is, he will harm her husband. This shows that Sultan knew Madhu has a husband and he thought that she cared for him enough to not want him harmed. So Sultan not knowing that she had a husband is not tenable. It is being brought up again and again because Sullu was lusting for the woman long before he knew the state of her marriage and that she wanted to break RK's heart. In fact he has been day dreaming about her on the very day he performed his wife's barsi.

Yeah, and Madhu told him two days later that she and RK are no longer husband and wife, that she's trying to move on from RK.

But you know what, I'm not even going to bother explaining. I will just laugh @bold 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

The whole thing, actually but especially at bold.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: likarsh

Seems like you weren't paying attention. That's okay, since you hate Sultan so much. Sultan had some men with him. Once he got out of the car, it was just himself and Aryan. After all, he is Sultan. He has enough confidence to take care of himself.

So what were the men doing, if Sultan can take care of himself? And we knew how well he took care of himself, the reason Madhu had to risk her life twice to save his.

Bollywood Superstar. Hah! You want to talk about the unbelievablilty of Sultan the Gangster. Let's talk about how unbelievable it is that RK is a Bollywood Superstar. Those films, those sets, those co-stars. They are not anything that says Bollywood Shooopeerssstaar!

This is a fiction T.V.show. The sets are more grandoise than in any other shows where multi-millionaires are shown to live in far more modest houses. I have no problems in their showing a gangster who leads a lifestyle very different from the actual gangsters. It is not the set we are discussing here. That depends on the budgets of the PHs which cannot be in bollywood style as this is a daily soap which has been running for more than a year. I have a problem with the characterisation of this gangster. One moment he is shown to fear for his life and the life of his family - the need to constantly shift houses and the next minute he is shown to court publicity by attending the bollywood theme party or now barging into RK's house when he is having a puja for his father. Isn't that contradictory?


Yes, yes. More excuses for the abuse and the flimsy apology which follows. The man can harass, stalk, kidnap, give no space. The woman falls for it like a meek victim and gives up her sense of self. All hail the man who apologizes; and so all he's done previously in order to arrive at the current relationship status is okay. Never mind all that the man had done. Let's all wipe that slate clean. Be a jackass, harass the woman, kidnap the woman, bother her, till she's forced to deal with you, and then she falls again for you. What a great lesson! What a great 'love story' 👏👏👏

Since when has Madhu been a meek victim? She has always given him as good as she gets and as much as he deserves. I've not seen any victim have as much power over her abuser as this victim did. She broke his arrogance, his ego. She made him go down on his knees not once but twice. Good for her and good for them. I don't see Madhu giving up her sense of self. She gave it back to him even on the stage during their wedding.

She has gained her self by fighting RK tooth and nail. It is only when she was convinced he was really genuine in his repentance she accepted him.


In forgiving the man who had wronged her she has not lost herself. Its funny how people think that forgiveness equates to surrender. Do you think if your parent or loved one forgives you they have lost they self?


Yes he has been a monster. He himself publicly admitted it. Does that mean he has to be hanged for it? He suffered for what he did, both emotionally as well as physically. He nearly lost the only woman whom he loves. He learnt that she was playing his own game. He knew he was the one who pushed her to it. He had owned up to his role in hardening her and was willing to make amends. Now if the woman wants to give him the chance who are we to question her?


This is how this show is going to be. RK and Madhu will always have this intense, tempestuous relationship where both hurt each other and heal each other even as they keep insanely loving each other. Madhu had patiently explained it to Sultan on the night of the wedding. If you don't like this love story you shouldn't be watching it because this is how it is going to be.


He is the right kameena. The one who people don't acknowledge is an abuser and a jackass. Well I guess they acknowledge he's a jackass. But all his jackassery is not abuse, apparently.🥱

Yes, not all his jackassery is not abuse. Whenever he has abused he has been punished both by destiny as well as Madhu. If Sultan's abuses can be forgiven and looked over, so can RK's.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Opti



Sultan knew that Madhu was married on the day he dropped her. Have you forgotten Kaka telling him that she was RK's wife? While leaving her back at the chawl he even threatened her that if she reveals who he is, he will harm her husband. This shows that Sultan knew Madhu has a husband and he thought that she cared for him enough to not want him harmed. So Sultan not knowing that she had a husband is not tenable. It is being brought up again and again because Sullu was lusting for the woman long before he knew the state of her marriage and that she wanted to break RK's heart. In fact he has been day dreaming about her on the very day he performed his wife's barsi.


He had been told she was married (you rightly recollected Kaka telling him and the times he also threatened her about harming RK, that time in the car, the first night also when he came to take her to take care of Aryan when he was sick), however when the barsi happened for his dead wife, if he started day dreaming about Madhu then at that time, I feel that's okay because going by Aryan's age now, how old is he? She died in an accident when he was a baby...I think it's been a good few years he has been a widow, and perhaps he felt it was time now he finds a prospective wife for himself, Aryan definitely needs a mother and Madhu tasting Aryan's food, getting along with his son so well, telling him how to behave with his son and how to take care of him, it seemed to be a good choice for him, going back to RK and Madhu's marriage at that time Sultan was staying at the chawl and he had definitely noticed that RK and her were no longer together, if she was visiting her mayka, maybe 1 or 2 days is okay but she had been at the chawl more time than that, Sultan staying at the chawl definitely without her telling him that her marriage is on the rocks knew Madhu and RK were no longer together.

Also about Madhu and RK's 4 phero wali shaddi, the priest said to RK that he cannot testify that a marriage has taken place as all the rituals were not performed, if the priest officiating the ceremony cannot testify that he joined a couple together, they cannot register a marriage, RK and Madhu didn't go to the register office/court to do a court marriage, so they were not married officially at all before this recent marriage that has taken place last week. RK himself before the mehndi ceremony said to the press with Madhu beside him that he was making her his bride they relationship bond was very old but now he is making it official (that means legal) and proper (that means with full rituals, last time 3 pheres short and no sindoor).
Edited by Nafs_Sweetheart - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
@Opti,
I am not even going to bother answering your justification for abuse. 🥱

I will answer your point on Sultan, in a short and simple answer. Sultan's situation after Bhujang's double-cross was one such that he had to regroup. He was initially distracted at the docks because of Aaryan, hence he ended up becoming vulnerable. And afterwards he couldn't risk going back to his place because he didn't know how much he was compromised. We are left to assume that by now he has regrouped, and probably has taken care of Bhujang off screen.

Edited by likarsh - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: likarsh

@Opti,

I am not even going to bother answering your justification for abuse. 🥱

I did not justify abuse but I'm not going to bother trying to make you see the difference between explanation and justification.

I will answer your point on Sultan, in a short and simple answer. Sultan's situation after Bhujang's double-cross was one such that he had to regroup. He was initially distracted at the docks because of Aaryan, hence he ended up becoming vulnerable. And afterwards he couldn't risk going back to his place because he didn't know how much he was compromised. We are left to assume that by this time he regrouped, and probably has taken care of Bhujang off screen.

Oh yes, we are left to assume a lot of things in this show. Like what became of Madhu's dad or RK's step dad.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Just as I didn't bother to make you see that abuse is abuse. 😛

Yes, we are left to assume a lot on the show. Way before Sultan ever came into the picture. 😃 What was that you said? Along the lines of, this is a daily serial? 😆 Oh, right. It's a fiction tv show. Just as i can say, this is a daily Hindi serial. Such things are expected.😛
Edited by likarsh - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Also not going to bother with the ridiculous Sultan is/was lusting after a married woman BS. People will love seeing what they want to see. They will defend and justify their favorite, beloved abusive relationship and beloved abuser.

Never mind that the abuser throws her out and calls her his wife, ex-wife, wife, on his will. Stalks her, harasses her, etc. Never mind that Madhu herself told Sultan she is not married to RK, and that she's trying to move on from RK. Nooo, never mind all of that. Never mind that afterwards, she then told him she was there for breaking Rk's heart.

Sultan lusted after Madhu, a married woman. 🥱 🤣
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Opti


my replies are in Black Bold.
Edited by Nafs_Sweetheart - 12 years ago

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: paljay

Haha Shanzy, You should have posted your first one on each page then only pankhis will read them, they will get it or not that is another question, no one knows the answer.


Great work Shanzy.



Haha Thanks. I posted it somewhere else too but later I decided to make a post 😆

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