Episode 281 Discussion: 25th May 2013 - Page 5

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I thought the bedroom scene was symbolic of RK-Madhu relationship. When Madhu turns around to let R.K change her dress for her, her eyes were closed. R.K. prompts her to open her eyes and she sees their reflection in the mirror. R.K. himself closes his eyes while proceeding to remove her jewellery and change her dress. Madhu could observe that his eyes remained closed throughout the task. When she commended him for not cheating, he admits it was a tough task and asks her to close her eyes as he leans forward to kiss her. Just then Sultan's phone call interrupts them.




My interpretation of the scene. Madhu blindly trusted R.K the first time and was willing to surrender herself to him. R.K. took off her dupatta and threw it aside but did not take advantage of his position. This could signify his dishonouring her during the unwedding but he did not take his rights as her husband. His prompting her to open her eyes, could signify his goading her, through his actions, to have a good look at their relationship as reflected in the mirror. She sees that this time he has entered into the relationship with his eyes closed. He has shut out Sultan and other obstacles from their path.


The stripping of jewellery and clothes could signify that their relationship has gone beyond all external trappings of the world. They are no longer just husband and wife for the outside world. They have reached a point of intimacy in their marital relationship, where the husband holds the right to undress his wife but holds himself back from seeing her in her birth suit pending the final step which would legally concretise their relationship. Madhu is touched by his act of trust in her and respect for her honour.



After he changes her into her ordinary clothes, he asks her to close her eyes, showing that once they are in their own little world, he expects his trust to be rewarded by her trust in him. The inpending and interrupted kiss signifies their intended marriage and Sultan's call indicates the hurdle they will face from that front. R.K. bites back his anger and invites him to attend the wedding even as Sultan desperately tries to warn Madhu of the danger she faces from R.K. R.K.'s antenna will be up during the wedding as his was during Madhu's conversation with Sultan.


Maybe Sultan may corner Madhu alone on the wedding day and again warn her of going ahead with her revenge and maybe this time R.K. may hear their conversation. Will he proceed with the wedding, thereby showing his trust in Madhu or will it be like the interrupted kiss, unfinished for now? This can be answered only on May 31 or June 3.
Edited by Opti - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: ClosetRomantic


Yes, this deliberate oversight on her part is going to land her in a lot of trouble. She is going into the marriage with a lot of bad vibes (Padmini, Sultan) and that is not a good way to make a new beginning.


CR, Pooja, awesome discussion 👏 both of you are right..

while watching the repeat yest. I felt that it's so hunky dory from outside but there are many things which need to be fixed..(Pooja, i agree with you here, the audience has to see RK's trust ..if he says he trusts Madhu, and he's secure in his love, he needs to prove it )..Madhu has to see RK's trust...she's trusting him and she's forgiven him with all her heart , itna ke she doesn't wanna mention those days bec. it'll hurt him ...if after this, RK blames her for lying or deceit , Madhu doesn't deserve this 😭

he said yest he's not the old shaqui RK, IMO he should be one, but not for his biwi, for the rest of this world...they are duniya se begane but duniya does exist outside their bedroom...if one small problem can create ripples in their paradise, the whole effort is a waste...RK and Madhu should try and shield themselves by being completely honest to each other..given their past, it's very difficult to maintain the trust ..see today one angry expression from RK troubled so many, that he's the same old RK (BTW he IS that RK, this is his inherent trait, just like smiling at faltu people is Madhu's trait) ..

they both had to take this leap of faith to reach out to each other...CR, Pooja is right, Madhu is correct in hiding this info from her Sultan, bec. IMO he's a nobody..but she should at least tell Trishna...like peeps here were disturbed with RK giving the angry look, I was disturbed with Madhu's talk with Sultan inviting to the wedding is okay (since RK did it) but how can she equate him with her family members ? that's odd ! i guess Sultan will try to talk to Madhu before her wedding and Dips might spot both of them together and try to gather some proofs..but will this revelation happen before or after their marriage? i want this to happen before marriage but i'm losing hope over it..there r only 4 episodes left for their wedding..therez sangeet and a few more rituals..

As for Madhu's lies, her revenge is not that imp. but her lying to RK might cause a lot of trouble...that's bec. Sultan and Dipali can take advantage of it...10 times she said the truth and once she lied means that woh 10 truths will also come under suspicion...Dipali can easily say that she planned the party to gain RK's trust, she invited Sultan and later, did this drama of leaving the house so that he comes begging on his knees..her meeting Sultan that day is the biggest stupidity which she did..i wanna know how both will react when they'll know Padmini asked Sultan to kidnap Madhu 🤣

anyhow, ignoring the nitty gritties, yest. was such a beautiful episode the best part abt the undressing scene was that RK didn't tell Madhu that he will be closing his eyes...He wanted her to agree and she agreed to it ..when he closed his eyes, Madhu's eyes were moist
Edited by _charu_ - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: blacklambo

The interview questions were more or less viewers questions and were answered accordingly.
RK's answers -

"Pyaar mera aur Madhu ka koi baccha nahin, jiski mein appko date aur time bata sakun..." - read, for the naysayers, love between the leads has always been present, there is no exact time and date to pinpoint this. (I know there is a better explanation than what I have noted, so feel free to chime in for this or any other point).


this one takes the cake and the bakery 🤣

when he told the press that he can kill the person who thinks of taking away his love from him, may be he was referring to Sultan..but Sultan thought he's talking about Madhu..that he will kill her if she betrays him...so that's why Bhai was worried for Madhu's safety ! 🤔

ETA initially he was worried to face the press bec. may be he anticipated that they will be asking these questions, he didn't wanna lie to them and didn't wanna mention the bad phase of their life but since the question was raised, he got annoyed..and Madhu handled it quite well..she was diplomatic n didn't reply their questions..na sach na jhooth 👏 n later he admitted to her that he lied to the press at the time of their break up..
Edited by _charu_ - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_

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this one takes the cake and the bakery 🤣

when he told the press that he can kill the person who thinks of taking away his love from him, may be he was referring to Sultan..but Sultan thought he's talking about Madhu..that he will kill her if she betrays him...so that's why Bhai was worried for Madhu's safety ! 🤔


I interpreted it exactly as you have said it...
that is why the urgency to talk to her...
he will land at the wedding also.. because of his wrong interpretation of RK's words..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Wow...beautiful interpretation of the bedroom scene...

Originally posted by: Opti

I thought the bedroom scene was symbolic of RK-Madhu relationship. When Madhu turns around to let R.K change her dress for her, her eyes were closed. R.K. prompts her to open her eyes and she sees their reflection in the mirror. R.K. himself closes his eyes while proceeding to remove her jewellery and change her dress. Madhu could observe that his eyes remained closed throughout the task. When she commended him for not cheating, he admits it was a tough task and asks her to close her eyes as he leans forward to kiss her. Just then Sultan's phone call interrupts them.




My interpretation of the scene. Madhu blindly trusted R.K the first time and was willing to surrender herself to him. R.K. took off her dupatta and threw it aside but did not take advantage of his position. This could signify his dishonouring her during the unwedding but he did not take his rights as her husband. His prompting her to open her eyes, could signify his goading her, through his actions, to have a good look at their relationship as reflected in the mirror. She sees that this time he has entered into the relationship with his eyes closed. He has shut out Sultan and other obstacles from their path.


The stripping of jewellery and clothes could signify that their relationship has gone beyond all external trappings of the world. They are no longer just husband and wife for the outside world. They have reached a point of intimacy in their marital relationship, where the husband holds the right to undress his wife but holds himself back from seeing her in her birth suit pending the final step which would legally concretise their relationship. Madhu is touched by his act of trust in her and respect for her honour. 👏



After he changes her into her ordinary clothes, he asks her to close her eyes, showing that once they are in their own little world, he expects his trust to be rewarded by her trust in him. The inpending and interrupted kiss signifies their intended marriage and Sultan's call indicates the hurdle they will face from that front. R.K. bites back his anger and invites him to attend the wedding even as Sultan desperately tries to warn Madhu of the danger she faces from R.K. R.K.'s antenna will be up during the wedding as his was during Madhu's conversation with Sultan.


Maybe Sultan may corner Madhu alone on the wedding day and again warn her of going ahead with her revenge and maybe this time R.K. may hear their conversation. Will he proceed with the wedding, thereby showing his trust in Madhu or will it be like the interrupted kiss, unfinished for now? This can be answered only on May 31 or June 3.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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My other thoughts on the episode -

RK's dialogues to Sultan on the phone had me🤣🤣🤣

RK passed his first test on trust by controlling his anger and inviting Sultan to the marriage ceremony. Extending the olive branch was probably done so that Sultan could witness first hand the reality and sanctity of the RM relationship and learns to respect it going forward.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hi2life

Nothing much to add, Drooolacious rishabala, I dint like the song though,
Vd was fab, dd or madhu these days are extra glowing, super gorgeous
Rk has noticed that madhu fails to understand sultans feelings for her, and its nice to see him trust her so much, it's high time madhu comes out with truth.
@War-is-peace. SR before marriage, yummy I am super excited for the pillow wall it blow off


P.S see like I said Trishna red pants yesterday and sulthan shirt, or top what ever we may call it are an exact match!! They do share the weirdo wardrobe,

Loved your comments, especially @red.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: blacklambo

Precap - silly billi instead of jungli billi...Was that an indication of RK acknowledging that Madhu has given in and no longer fighting him? Will wait for Monday episode to figure it out.


well i interpreted like this...sultan called madhu at midnight but madhu is stupid enough to not understand what sultan feels for her...this is what rk was trying to point out..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: dramacrazy12


@Red: Yes... but once again the argument is whatever she had done was not directly connected with revenge...the party fiasco was designed to expose Dips and at the same time impress upon RK...the effects of his overreaction. One could argue that both these things were necessary even if there was no revenge in place and Madhu had come back whole heartedly to RK. She would have needed to neutralize Dip's influence on RK and show RK that his reactions have ripple affects for a happy married life. As for the lie...technically she did not invite Sultan, she told him that she would like it if he came as invited by Dips. The only lie she said was that she did not meet Sultan in mall...which again is a matter of interpretation of word "meeting".


actually, Madhu never told us what exactly she's planning to do..all she said was she will break his heart when he will trust her..i guess she planned to do it when he came to confess in the chawl but she changed her mind...her main aim was to break his ego (which she managed to do), get back her dignity and honor (which she did), make RK respect people who mattered 2 (which he did..when he called Padmini MA..) and to make him realize her pain (which Madhu might not know, but he did went through the same when they were separated..he has mentioned it time and again) ..so acc. to me, her "teaching a lesson" was done very well, Madhu style 😎...
Edited by _charu_ - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_

Madhu is correct in hiding this info from her Sultan, bec. IMO he's a nobody..but she should at least tell Trishna...like peeps here were disturbed with RK giving the angry look, I was disturbed with Madhu's talk with Sultan inviting to the wedding is okay (since RK did it) but how can she equate him with her family members ? that's odd ! i guess Sultan will try to talk to Madhu before her wedding and Dips might spot both of them together and try to gather some proofs..but will this revelation happen before or after their marriage? i want this to happen before marriage but i'm losing hope over it..there r only 4 episodes left for their wedding..therez sangeet and a few more rituals..


As for Madhu's lies, her revenge is not that imp. but her lying to RK might cause a lot of trouble...that's bec. Sultan and Dipali can take advantage of it...10 times she said the truth and once she lied means that woh 10 truths will also come under suspicion...Dipali can easily say that she planned the party to gain RK's trust, she invited Sultan and later, did this drama of leaving the house so that he comes begging on his knees..her meeting Sultan that day is the biggest stupidity which she did..


@Red - Agree completely. That is my point too.

@Blue - Sultan should have been a nobody but Madhu has given him the place of a close friend again and again, and now she has cemented it by asking him to come to her wedding. It wouldn't have been a problem if he was just another guy but she knows he is somebody RK is extremely uncomfortable with. And he is somebody who snaps necks in seconds. Till now she has done nothing to negate Sultan's bad impression of RK - the man who publicly punched him and who he hates with a vengeance. She needs to tell Sultan the truth so that he LAYS OFF. He needs to know that she doesn't need a savior. While I'm looking forward to seeing Sultan get the shock of his life when Madhu completes the pheras, it is leaving too much to chance.

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