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Posted: 12 years ago
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Rishabh Kundra's problem is his ego. No doubts there. But the reason he's such a conflicted, troubled human being is that he is equally capable of great love, tremendous passion, heart-melting tenderness. Above all, he has the capacity to put one person above every thing else.

My reading of the entire revenge drama he played out is that he was so scared of this side of his nature - the ability to go up in smoke, burn down the world if necessary, of wiping himself out in love. He was on the verge of leaving his world, extinguishing his identity, of merging with his love... he was FALLING in love. A prospect that alarmed him so much that he pulled himself up and set about hacking Madhu out of his life. He didn't have a reason - there was so much love, harmony and belonging between them that (like the creatives) he had to manufacture a reason. A half baked story about revenge, full of loopholes, leaving the truth still visible. We could see it, Madhu could see it: RK loves Madhu - always did, still does.

He regrets that unwedding drama, of course. He convinced himself of his revenge motive... it stayed intact for him till Madhu finished her three-day challenge, but at that party on the sets, the mask slipped.

"Please, laut aao mere paas", he pleaded, "Kaan pakad ke maafi maangun to bhi nahi?"
They were both drunk. The sub-conscious overruled the conscious and he took her home, and laid her tenderly on the bed beside him.

The morning came, brought back the whole truth... and a new scenario. He was soft to Madhu on the outdoor shoot. It was a matter of time before they spoke. May be he would have apologised, asked her to come back... but before he could do anything about it, entered Sultan.

Sultan, by himself, was pretty harmless to begin with.
Madhu and he had met but that was all.
But the CONCEPT of him gave RK nightmares. A potential MAN for Madhu. The IDEA of him. The FEAR that because he had cut Madhu loose, cut her adrift from him, she was free in the world... free to snapped up by any worthy man in need of a woman.

Who thought of a relationship between Madhu and Sultan first? Was it Sultan? Was it Madhu? No, it was RK - foolishly articulating his worst fears and giving them wings.
He asked Madhu if that was her new man.
He referred to him as her 'naya aashiq' to Sultan.
He has suggested repeatedly to both of them that they could be in a POTENTIAL RELATIONSHIP.
It angered Madhu beyond reason and... it gave Sultan ideas that he may otherwise not have nourished.

Sultan - not the man, but the IDEA of him - shook RK's foundations. He was desperately afraid, still fighting himself and desperate. He needed Madhu back by his side, wearing his brand - or he would lose her.

He raged about like a bull for a few ineffectual days. There was no time to undo the damage slowly, no time to apologise, entreat, woo and win her back. Besides that wasn't his style, anyway. So he grabbed. Kidnapped her, mocked, threatened, coerced. It was over the top, even for RK.
Dipali saw it clearly. She saw how frantic he was to have Madhu back, how fraught! Underneath the Neanderthal Act was sheer fear that his life, his wife would slip from his fingers.

Was it supposed to be a game? Did he really imagine he would live the rest of his life without having anything to do with Madhu? Or did he think he would woo her again, this time with a little more control over his feelings? Did he think at all?
No matter how RK camouflages it, it is clear he IS grovelling. Without saying it, he was begging Madhu to come back, that it would be alright, the same as it was. Come back and NOW - before someone else can stake a claim. He banked on the love he knew she felt for him.

Does he know that a surer way of getting Madhu back would be to assure her of HIS love? Or does that sound so hollow that he has no confidence in convincing her about it? Does he think he has a better chance by asserting his (dubious) rights?

I confess: I want to see him suffer for what he did.
For being so egotistic that he could ACTUALLY hurt Madhu like he did. How could he bear to do that when he can't stand it if she so much as stubs her toe? How could he bear to hurt his Madhu like that?
For being such a fool as to rub salt into her wounds. If he could do that, humiliate her in public, did he love her EVER?
For accusing her of unfaithfulness, when he had himself demonstrated the most appalling display of disloyalty. (Loyalty isn't just about other women - your man should be on your side, no matter what. Not draw a line and PUT you on the other side.)
For choosing to bluster his way through the crisis instead of being refined and decent about it.
For bulldozing Madhu rather than cajoling her.
For choosing to be SO insensitive to her state of mind that she decided to do something about it.


See the problem here:
RK is worried about Sultan.
Madhu is incensed by the WAY RK is treating her and all that happened.

RK is bent upon tackling a phantom Sultan, even now.
Madhu has decided he must be confronted with the monster he is being.

But the situation is pushing Madhu closer to Sultan. She needs a friend and he's available. And he's now become a significant player, because he has decided Madhu needs his protection and assistance. Which RK can't abhor. Which Madhu won't reject. What a mess!

But I feel a pang for RK. See his condition: the loss of Madhu compounded by the threat of Sultan. He's technically got Madhu back but is afflicted with doubt, suspicion at her sudden compliance. Hope and doubt - both warring in his heart.
He is still worried about Sultan and the meetings his wife continues to have with him. On top of this he cannot afford to be overtly, bossy, nasty or overbearing - it could drive Madhu away.

The man is caught in a web of his own weaving.
Bubble

Disclaimer: I am a fan of MEIEJ and do not belong to any camp - RK, Sultan, Madhu, Rishbala or Sulbala. So, read it like that, please. And do leave a comment.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Lovely post 👍🏼
Thanks
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Originally posted by: _charu_

super like 👍🏼👏


Thank you, Charu!
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Originally posted by: JayshreeG

Lovely post 👍🏼

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Thanks, Jayshree!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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nice post; i confess i want to see him suffer big time too, but not at the cost of some other guys benefit. 🤢
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Superb post, Bubble.⭐️👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Love your post...
And ya even without your disclaimer one would understand that your are unbiased towards any particular character, its a breath of fresh air to see a post without complaints, frustration or negativeness
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Originally posted by: soapbubble


"Please, laut aao mere paas", he pleaded, "Kaan pakad ke maafi maangun to bhi nahi?"
They were both drunk. The sub-conscious overruled the conscious and he took her home, and laid her tenderly on the bed beside him.

The morning came, brought back the whole truth... and a new scenario. He was soft to Madhu on the outdoor shoot. It was a matter of time before they spoke. May be he would have apologised, asked her to come back... but before he could do anything about it, entered Sultan.



Very good post,
Above lines made me think that now Rishbala will happen, I was happy about it too, though I was upset with revenge drama still ready to accept because at that time I thought RK does love Madhu.
But nothing like that happen, Sad.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapbubble


Sultan, by himself, was pretty harmless to begin with.
Madhu and he had met but that was all.
But the CONCEPT of him gave RK nightmares. A potential MAN for Madhu. The IDEA of him. The FEAR that because he had cut Madhu loose, cut her adrift from him, she was free in the world... free to snapped up by any worthy man in need of a woman.

Who thought of a relationship between Madhu and Sultan first? Was it Sultan? Was it Madhu? No, it was RK

Sultan - not the man, but the IDEA of him - shook RK's foundations.



I confess: I want to see him suffer for what he did.
For being so egotistic that he could ACTUALLY hurt Madhu like he did. How could he bear to do that when he can't stand it if she so much as stubs her toe? How could he bear to hurt his Madhu like that?
For being such a fool as to rub salt into her wounds. If he could do that, humiliate her in public, did he love her EVER?
For accusing her of unfaithfulness, when he had himself demonstrated the most appalling display of disloyalty. (Loyalty isn't just about other women - your man should be on your side, no matter what. Not draw a line and PUT you on the other side.)
For choosing to bluster his way through the crisis instead of being refined and decent about it.
For bulldozing Madhu rather than cajoling her.
For choosing to be SO insensitive to her state of mind that she decided to do something about it.



This is the most important part.

( Iam VD/DD/AR all three characters and all the other characters fan, IN short MEIEJ Fan)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hello Bubble,

I usually avoid leaving comments on any thread that has even a surface level loyalty to RK, even the most reasonable ones, if only for the fact that those threads tend to invite precisely those who may misconstrue even a genuine argument from the other side, which then makes it a macabre exercise where the original intentions become completely decimated. I am writing on your thread because, well, firstly because you write well, secondly because you did not pledge allegiance to any one camp aside from the show itself, and lastly because you invited people to leave comments.

Within the context of the above, let me offer a counter-perspective.

Firstly, one of the main things that has perplexed me in the continuous arguments in justifying the character of a man like RK is that he is willing to be single-minded in love. Or as you mentioned, "Above all, he has the capacity to put one person above every thing else." This may be just me, but how can this be a virtue? The capacity to put one person above everyone else is bestowed on most people. Developmentally, typically it starts out with your mother (and/or father), then maybe a sibling, then maybe a close friend, and eventually a love. It's basic human nature to do this. However, when you lose yourself, your goodness, your rightness, and your morals in order to preserve this supposed bond you want to share with one other person, for me it stops being love and merely becomes an obsession. And yes, I do very strongly believe that obsession is an entirely different entity from love. Obsession relies completely on the onslaught of overwhelming emotions whereas love is a more stable entity, not pulled this way and that by the person's whims and changing moods and situations. There is a certain level of abject narcissism to this type of obsession and that defines RK. It's like he never quite evolved out of the early childhood stage of seeing things, where people mainly exist for your convenience, pleasure, and amusement, and when you lose their attention, you will do anything to regain it.

I also don't think it's merely the IDEA of Sultan that is threatening to RK. If he did not think that Sultan, as a man, possessed at least some of the qualities that would be appealing to a woman such as Madhu, I doubt that he would be bending over backwards seething in jealousy. The entire notion of his 'love' for her is laced with these sort of emotions – possession, envy, ownership, dominion, spite... the one thing about him that is complicated is exactly this part of him – his emotions. He has yet to develop the capacity for the sort of 'pure' love is actually capable of genuine sacrifice. He is so besieged by emotions that are always adulterated with how others are out to topple him or betray him, not realizing that often the world is a mirror of what you dish out yourself, that he cannot move out of his own way long enough to see that there are many who love him despite his weaknesses (as many and obvious as they are). So, in this sense, no, I do not think him worthy of Madhu's love (or anyone else's really with the possible exception of his mother simply because mothers love in that way). Not only until he redeems himself to her, but also redeems himself as a man and as a human being.

P.S. To all readers, I welcome comments, feedback, well-thought out analyses from whatever perspective you share. However, please refrain if you simply want to engage in vitriol laced with caustic sarcasm that stunts any form of reasonable debate. If you are completely committed to RK to the exclusion of all else, your loyalty is admirable, but not suited to the purpose of healthy argument. Thanks.


-Devi

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