Episode 207 Discussion: 28th Feb 2013 - Page 6

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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ all,
Excellent analysis!

I see that your opinions are different. For me, the episode was very entertaining. Relaxing.
RK (VD) is much better in scenes of drunkenness, while Madhu (DD) at moments seems
unconvincing in her acting. For women, it is probably more difficult.
Edited by zorica - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Today's was such a positive episode 😳 After a while, there was no anger, and everything was relatively calm. Just like how the skies and nature are calm before a storm unleashes 😆

I'm not going to talk about some of the flaws the episode had because the overall cute and adorable aspects totally made up for it 😆

I liked the starting scene, where they were doing the KC stuff. At first I felt sad to see such a scene happening, and that too in front of Madhu (though I know it was part of the movie, but the Rishbala fan in me was silently protesting 😳)

But then RK called cut, and he started explaining all the details to Shraddha, just so both him and Madhu can see each other through the sieve first. At that moment I wondered, why can't they just run to each other right away and put aside everything that had happened in the past 2 weeks. There was longing in both of them. And it made me think, that though both speak of hatred at the moment, subconsciously it was more like them fighting to be together again. Though in this case, they are fighting each other. After all, they are the best (true love) and worst (enemies) to each other, 😆

As for Dipali, her dumbness makes me laugh. 😆 Unknowingly, she always plays a catalyst for RishBala.

So it looks like RK seems to forget all his internal pain when Madhu's around. Because he actually got drunk today (As Bittuji says it, pyaar ka nasha)

I love how possessive Madhu gets of RK when Dipz is around him. And I absolutely adore how RK kept pushing Dipz away today. His eyes were only on Madhu

RK was so freaking adorable when he was walking around looking for Madhu <3 Especially when he made the reference to Mr.India, I was just smiling along with him ☺️

Drunk people are so fun to watch, be it in real or reel. I was totally gushing over RK and Madhu today 😆 I liked how Madhu pushed him away at first, and how RK kept asking her why she drank and how could she drink so much 🤣 The ending was awesome with Madhu asking who he is to ask her all these questions and RK just looking back at her thoughtfully.

I was hoping he would say she is his wife and then the episode ended on that line (at least for dramatic purposes 😆 ... or more so I can drool over that bit 🤣) but alas, I'll have to wait for tomorrow

Precap : I really want to watch what happens tomorrow right away, but I'll have to wait ... and that too until my exam is done 😲😒😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Okay. I have to defend DD. SHE DOES KNOW HOW TO ACT DRUNK. or atleast I liked her scene in Geet. Check this out. One of fav scenes

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvWZV1-0P3w[/YOUTUBE]


I understand that DD here playing Madhu is not that exuberant as Geet. Geet and Madhu are very different and may be DD is purposefully making Madhu different here. Actually I appreciate that effort of hers.

What I did not like today is that party and drinking EVERYTHING of it was forced and it was not cute at all for me. Perhaps tomorrow will be a better day and both VD and DD or RK or Madhu will be enjoyable. Today it was far too CLUNKY to digest their drunkenness. She grabs a bottle...anyone heard of drinking from a Coke plastic bottle during a party ??? 🤪Such a lack of sophistication in the name of drama creation ? Can you buy Bittuji's explanation that RK is intoxicated not by his drink but its "Ishq ka nasha". Even if they have to show it for VD/RK like that, build up needed to be gradual.

For ex: When I start getting drunk...my behaviour is all babble with wide grin chapped on my face. It wouldn't leave. Some of my friends, start crying...So whatever DD does for Madhu tomorrow, I will take it over face value. But RK...my antennae will be up...though I am willing to concede that being in love, his drunken state is first being zapped in smiles followed by surprises and then crying. I concede that as possible...as now he is a man in love unlike his previous time.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#54
She did fantastic Drunk act during DMG also.(Dr.Muskaan)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: kt25

I was very much intrigued by yesterday's precap and was actually looking forward to see how the CVs manage to proceed with what was shown in the precap right after she admitted her full and total hatred for him infront of everyoone. I have to say that I was not even one bit impressed with what was shown today and I was left with a feeling of blah, void and what not. It felt as if everything that was shown today was forced and did not have a smooth flow or transition from yesterday's episode to today's.


I know that this is an Indian daily soap and I should not look for logic but I just couldn't with thousand questions swarming my mind. It did not make any sense when out of the blue RK decided to throw a party when the shoot is not completely over. What is this party for? It is not the last day of shoot so he could call it a shoot wrap up party. They are going to have to go on an outdoor shoot where the enitre cast and crew is still going to be working together. It is not that they are not going to see each other for ever, so this party did not make any sense to me other than solving the purpose of forcibly getting Madhu and RK drunk.


Dips mixes alcohol in the coke and how come no one manages to see that when she is doing it right in front of everyone. Then she hands two bottles to one of Madhu's girlfriends and Madhu manages to perfectly pick the adulterated coke from her friend. How does Dips know that Madhu likes coke only and not the other drink? Let's assume that it was a lucky break that Dips got and Madhu picked up the coke but could she not sense that there is something wrong with the drink despite her making weird facial expressions. Also, why she had to make a stupid comment that all is fine since the bottle is sealed. Did Dips not break the seal to spike the drink? So, what gives??


RK on the other hand, who never gets high after consuming alcohol is riding on an all time high and was walking all wobbly. It did not make any sense there as well. So, either Bittuji was giving him water under the pretext of alcohol in the past and he really had alcohol only today. Then comes Bittuji who all of a sudden has so much power that he could alter the script at his own free will. Since when he became the script writer? Atleast they should have shown us him talking to the script writer to make some changes as opposed to calling Radha and proudly admitting his brave deed.


RK despite being drunk manages to correctly dial her number and find his way to the makeup room where Madhu is. Despite his puppy dog eyes and pouty lips why can't I still not trust him when he says that he is dying internally and wants to go away with her to someplace else. He said the same thing before about leaving everything and going away with her. Why is my mind telling me to question his behavior and ask what if he is taking his revenge sine the day is not over yet and does not want her to win the challenge. I don't know I guess I have to wait and watch tomorrow's episode before I start going on a bashing spree.







I think he said don't ask me to go away from you. I want to talk to you... And not let's go away..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: kt25


I know that this is an Indian daily soap and I should not look for logic but I just couldn't with thousand questions swarming my mind. It did not make any sense when out of the blue RK decided to throw a party when the shoot is not completely over. What is this party for? It is not the last day of shoot so he could call it a shoot wrap up party. They are going to have to go on an outdoor shoot where the enitre cast and crew is still going to be working together. It is not that they are not going to see each other for ever, so this party did not make any sense to me other than solving the purpose of forcibly getting Madhu and RK drunk.

Dips mixes alcohol in the coke and how come no one manages to see that when she is doing it right in front of everyone. Then she hands two bottles to one of Madhu's girlfriends and Madhu manages to perfectly pick the adulterated coke from her friend. How does Dips know that Madhu likes coke only and not the other drink? Let's assume that it was a lucky break that Dips got and Madhu picked up the coke but could she not sense that there is something wrong with the drink despite her making weird facial expressions. Also, why she had to make a stupid comment that all is fine since the bottle is sealed. Did Dips not break the seal to spike the drink? So, what gives??
RK on the other hand, who never gets high after consuming alcohol is riding on an all time high and was walking all wobbly. It did not make any sense there as well. So, either Bittuji was giving him water under the pretext of alcohol in the past and he really had alcohol only today.

Why is my mind telling me to question his behavior and ask what if he is taking his revenge sine the day is not over yet and does not want her to win the challenge.

Great review Priya...👏👏. I agree with you that the flow from yesterday was not smooth but contrived. I kept wondering if that was on purpose or just a blooper
@ Bold: Somehow it was like he wanted a reason to hold Madhu. I am not sure if it was on purpose or otherwise. His insistence that she attend did not make any sense...I am still not sure what is going on. RK challenged Madhu that she will not survive 3 days ...today is 4th day so RK has lost the challenge. Madhu had promised to work 30 days...so she has to go outdoor to complete her end. I have a feeling that he had planned something (not sure good or bad...since he seemed to have mellowed down after Madhu's outburst) but his and Madhu getting drunk threw a monkey wrench in the plan. It would have made some sense if I had seen some disappointment/sadness on his face when he thought Madhu was not coming on set. The shift in character was too abrupt.
@Blue: I have been in that situation so I can understand that. When I was in college I made it a point to always drink from a sealed bottle. I was considered too picky and paranoid to the point of embarassment at times. Sometimes I had to ignore the fact that the bottle was open and just run with it if it seemed full and was brought by someone I trusted. At times I have mistaken a tightly screwed bottle as sealed too. Ofcourse if I felt something was weird...I would hang around with that bottle just pretending to sip until I could ditch it.
@Red: I had to understand this so ...more so since I am a teetoteler. Based on my research here is the deal ...how fast you get drunk depends on several factors - your tolerance, the alcohol content in the drink? how fast you drink it? did you drink it neat or otherwise and how many shots? Did you eat anything before it or not?
So RK drank whiskey (60%-98% alcohol content). I counted 5-7 neat shots in a period of less than an hour. He must not have eaten anything since he still had to eat his dinner. In all he could get reasonably drunk.
I presume that he normally drank by sipping it with some snacks on the side so he was not as drunk as fast.
@Pink: I saw mixed signs yesterday and I really wish that this is not a revenge plan because honestly I cannot take any more darker RK. If this is a revenge plan, I want Madhu to break free. Heathcliff like characters might be intriguing on paper but on screen ...he is horrible and despicable.
Edited by dramacrazy12 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Puja - Thanks for the like and clarification. I was actually frustrated after watching the episode because of its lack of coherence. However, I do have to admit that DD and VD pulled off the drunken act pretty good and their funny and goofy expressions did make me laugh.


I would not have understood the state and condition of a person who consumes alcohol since I do not drink alcohol and have zero tolerance for alcohol even in sauces and desserts. I get terribly sick if I had consumed something that has alcohol in it. I learnt this the hard way when I have had a sliver of cake in my friend's house where her mom had added Rum to the cake. The cake looked like a bundt cake and I did not think twice before I had a piece. I was fine for an hour or so but right after I got home I was sick to my stomach and kept throwing up whole night. Hence, my knowledge of alcohol is very limited and even when I get inivited to the holiday parties I stick to the veggies out of fear of chefs using alcohol as meat tenderizer and flavor enhancer.


I guess I would have to go with what you and @Shri had mentioned in your posts. In other words, it is safe to assume that RK might not have revenge as his top most thing in his mind when his senses are not intact after consuming alcohol. He might probably tend to reveal the deep dark secret that he has been hiding from everyone which might very well be his love for her. His ego might take a back seat when he is not in his senses and might genuinely admit his feelings for her. I guess alcohol might have made him forget that he is a superstar and hence he was acting all loopy and goofy. Yep, Just like you, I want it to be his true feelings and not yet another plan to win the challenge or avenge for his fifth slap. I guess I will hold off until I watch tomorrow's episode.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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My take on RK's inconsistent behavior after Madhu won the 3 day challenge! I hate to justify any action of his after the revenge fiasco, after all its RK, who knows what he's upto this time! But here goes!

I think the very fact that he does not seem upset about Madhu's lecture early in the day and previously even her 5th slap, is precisely the reason why he did not want her to be around him! Shrewd as he is, he cant be so ignorant of his feelings, and he knows that he cant keep up this facade for long, if she is around! He had planned on taking his so called revenge or whatever that was on that night of unwedding and be done with her! It probably was tough for him bcoz of his feelings for her, but he steeled himself to give the performance of his life(why, still beats me), after all its just two scenes and he is an actor! It was right up his sleeve, the scene at the mandap, the other at the chawl and continued it when Paddo n Madhu came to RK mansion! What he wasn't counting on was seeing Madhu n that too on a daily basis at his sets! Maybe her bouncing back stronger and her determination not to leave, has dented his resolve and his true feelings are coming out much as he feared! But this is RK we are talking about, whatever setback he has suffered, it will only be temporary! I believe he will be meaner when he comes back to his senses, unless some other circumstance intervenes! For eg. if they spend a night together! I dont think he's the kind to treat that frivolously! So I am waiting to watch if I will be proved right or wrong by RK the big question Mark!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: dramacrazy12


@Red: I had to understand this so ...more so since I am a teetoteler. Based on my research here is the deal ...how fast you get drunk depends on several factors - your tolerance, the alcohol content in the drink? how fast you drink it? did you drink it neat or otherwise and how many shots? Did you eat anything before it or not?
So RK drank whiskey (60%-98% alcohol content). I counted 5-7 neat shots in a period of less than an hour. He must not have eaten anything since he still had to eat his dinner. In all he could get reasonably drunk.
I presume that he normally drank by sipping it with some snacks on the side so he was not as drunk as fast.



@bold: True. These factors decide how much and how fast you you lose out on your senses after drinking alcohol.

@red: If this is what RK did, he would be throwing up, and not getting drunk as they showed.

Overall, the drama that they showed to get RK and Madhu drunk was contrived. 👎🏼 Nothing convincing about it.




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Posted: 12 years ago
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Superb reviews, all! I'd posted one too, but the internet gremlins ate mine up before it could reach the IF server

But in short, I agree with all of you...the spiking/getting drunk was stupidly designed, shoddily executed and looked too forced. Rishbala drunk was cute. I do think RK is not faking because if he is, it would push his character beyond redemption almost - almost, because we all know the power of those criminally long lashes VD bats!!!

It would be fantastic if Madhu were faking but her character is more straightforward and not capable of duplicity. So I doubt it...

Shri, saw the Geet clip you've posted - this was my first exposure to Geet. Looks interesting. But comeon, those cutesy smiles of Madhu Bhabhiji are reserved for our RK and not that bearded fellow, whoever he is (with due apologies to Geet fans)!

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