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Posted: 12 years ago
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Madhu failing this test will be like IAS officer not able to clear class 8th exam 😆

look at the irony of the situation...where did Madhu's selflessness take her to ? an xyz like Mukund who she hardly know , she decided to take a stand against RK for him, woh bhi at tht moment when her sister's dreams were just about to be fulfilled...she didn't budge from her stand, family reputation was tarnished, Trishna's career was over, Malik landed in the hospital and she was forced to marry the person who she hated the most...her selflessness landed her into RK mansion..the same selflessness changed RK from RK to Rishabh, the person who she loves ...now the same selflessness is going to develop a crack in her relationship with RK..it will take her away from her love...it's good to be selfless but it comes with a hefty price tag...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Awesome Post Nafs.

You analysed everything correctly.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well said. I agree your POV completely. You analysed the fact correctly and put it in a wonderful way. You amazed me!!!

👏👏👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nafz...I totally agree with you

Madhu has passed all the test with flying colours, so I feel this test which RK put her through was unnecessary and plain stupid move from the CV's...only they know why the hell they had to put this test for Madhu from RK's side 😡😡

And I still do not understand RK...after all Madhu did for him and he understood Madhu's feelings, still he had to listen to Dipshit and put Madhu through this crap 😡 😡
She gave blood when he needed it, she prayed for his life...she did everything she could for him , when she could sit back and wait until RK died and live her life as a wealthy widow without someone ever knowing who actually killed RK...
Let's not forget that if Madhu was interested in money, she could hv easily accepted the money he offered in Mukund's case, but still she didn't..
Does RK have amnesia or what ????? Did he forget abt all this, when he prefered to listen to Dipshit

Even if Madhu had passed this test, who gives us the guarantee that RK would not put another one infront of Madhu , after being instignated by Dipshit...I wonder how many tests Madhu has to pass actually before she gets her " certificate of trust " from RK...
If Madhu had said yes to him...he would only be momentarily convinced and it wouldn't take long for Dipshit to come with another crap to feed his insecurities and this will go on and on

The CV's have spoiled RK's character, coz RK has always been portrayed as someone who could differentiate between right and wrong, between fake and genuine...how come he did not see the genuine love in Madhu's eyes this time ???? How did he fail ????

Edited by eshasrk - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: eshasrk

Nafz...I totally agree with you

Madhu has past all the test with flying colours, so I feel this test which RK put her through was unnecessary and plain stupid move from the CV's...only they know why the hell they had to put this test for Madhu from RK's side 😡😡

And I still do not understand RK...after all Madhu did for him and he understood Madhu's feelings, still he had to listen to Dipshit and put Madhu through this crap 😡 😡
She gave blood when he needed it, she prayed for his life...she did everything she could for him , when she could sit back and wait until RK died and live her life as a wealthy widow without someone ever knowing who actually killed RK...
Let's not forget that if Madhu was interested in money, she could hv easily accepted the money he offered in Mukund's case, but still she didn't..
Does RK have amnesia or what ????? Did he forget abt all this, when he prefered to listen to Dipshit

Even if Madhu had passed this test, who gives us the guarantee that RK would not put another one infront of Madhu , after being instignated by Dipshit...I wonder how many tests Madhu has to pass actually before she gets her " certificate of trust " from RK...
If Madhu had said yes to him...he would only be momentarily convinced and it wouldn't take long for Dipshit to come with another crap to feed his insecurities and this will go on and on

The CV's have spoiled RK's character, coz RK has always been portrayed as someone who could differentiate between right and wrong, between fake and genuine...how come he did not see the genuine love in Madhu's eyes this time ???? How did he fail ????


I agree Esha.

It would have been a continuous loop of mistrust if Madhu had passed this test, again Dips would come and put something else in RK's mind, so it was wrong for the CV's to allow RK's character to be swayed by Dips. Particularly if it's a trust issue here we are talking about, as Dipali broke his trust too. She is the 3rd person who has betrayed him, so he should not have listened to her.

How the CV's plan to repair this damage to RK's character now after this I don't know. He has failed in this instance to differentiate between fake and genuine. Someone who has always looked into Madhu's eyes and been able to read her like a book this time it didn't happen.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I believe the test was designed to fail Madhu because, RK framed the question such a way that anyone would hesitate before answering.

Look how he framed the question, "Would you leave everything and come with me?"
Madhu, "Yes, because you are my world."
RK got his answer, yet probes farther, "Will you come with me, away from EVERYONE (not everything), far from EVERYONE?
Madhu's hesitation? Family. Both hers and RKs.

I'm in Human Resources and we are trained to frame question depending on the answer we want to hear. Based on how you frame a question, the answer of the same question can be very different from the same person. A small example below.

If RK had asked, "Madhu, I want to leave my movie career behind, so that we can make our small little world. Would you be my side?"

The question was about a change of career or a lifestyle, her response could have been fair and just without any hesitation. The question was direct and the answer would have been too.

But he set her up by asking a vague question which can mean anything and Madhu, being an honest girl, didn't want to make false promises that she can't keep. She hesitates because she tries to figure out whether RK meant leaving family behind?

After that one moment of hesitation, RK pounces on her like Tiger on a prey and does not let her speak anything else.

See? Destined to fail. RK only heard what he wanted to hear.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

I believe the test was designed to fail Madhu because, RK framed the question such a way that anyone would hesitate before answering.

Look how he framed the question, "Would you leave everything and come with me?"
Madhu, "Yes, because you are my world."
RK got his answer, yet probes farther, "Will you come with me, away from EVERYONE (not everything), far from EVERYONE?
Madhu's hesitation? Family. Both hers and RKs.

I'm in Human Resources and we are trained to frame question depending on the answer we want to hear. Based on how you frame a question, the answer of the same question can be very different from the same person. A small example below.

If RK had asked, "Madhu, I want to leave my movie career behind, so that we can make our small little world. Would you be my side?"

The question was about a change of career or a lifestyle, her response could have been fair and just without any hesitation. The question was direct and the answer would have been too.

But he set her up by asking a vague question which can mean anything and Madhu, being an honest girl, didn't want to make false promises that she can't keep. She hesitates because she tries to figure out whether RK meant leaving family behind?

After that one moment of hesitation, RK pounces on her like Tiger on a prey and does not let her speak anything else.

See? Destined to fail. RK only heard what he wanted to hear.


Tia, I've watched the confession a few times now. Yes RK mentions leave our alliances "rishtey" inclusive of other things.

The other things he started when he posed the question was my name (meaning his status), my money, everything, everyone.

If it was me in Madhu's place I would have clocked what he was asking me, as his a superstar, with fame and fortune, first I would have known that he does not trust me, that he thinks I'm after his money and status, then I would have realised that his lying about leaving everything. Because a person like him who detests the Bhatia's would never leave his wealth for them to enjoy and he go live somewhere else starting from scratch as an ordinary person. So I would have spotted the trick, so the fault is the CV's for making Madhu innocent not to spot the lie and also not to spot that he does not trust me immediately.

She would not have to even think about past commitments that she was thinking of before giving her answer.

But the CV's wanted a misunderstanding and designed this test in this manner, but I feel most of us would have passed the test. By giving RK the reassurance he wanted, hold his hand and agree. If your mind was troubled with your previous commitments, still hold his hand and tell him what the other commitments are after all his her husband she should not be hiding anything from him. If they are one person now after their marriage she should tell him that I am committed to reconciling you to your mother and at my home my parents are also not staying together. Whilst holding his hand, and say if you come with me now back home and repair the relationship to your mother and allow me to also repair the relationship of my parents after that we can go.
Edited by Nafs_Sweetheart - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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If the CV's were so desperate to create MU, they could have chosen a much better and believable one than this...we all know they are capable of doing that going by the storyline till now...

Why did they have to spoil RK's character when he was the one who is shrewd enough to know the difference btw right & wrong- fake & genuine...
How come the CV's made him fail this time so badly ??? Only becoz they needed a MU ???
This is just bogus for me...

My question is now :

why would Madhu leave everything behind, when RK himself is not willing to leave it ???
Even if Madhu had said YES and passed the test and said ok I will leave your status, money, fame , stardom everything behind...what would have happened ????
Is RK willing to give up on his superstar status, his wealth and everything else that comes with his stardom ????
It would hv made NO sense, coz momentarily RK would be convinced and after a couple of days they would be in the same situation, where again the money, fame question would have been raised maybe this time by someone else...so what difference does Madhu's YES would have made ???

The only difference would be if RK himself leaves everything behind and starts form scratch...only then would this problem hv been solved for ever !!!!
So this is why I cannot understand this love test where status, money & fame is involved and therefor so plain stupid...

My next question:

When will RK's insecurities come to an end exactly ??? Would they come to an end and vanished for once and for all if Madhu had said YES ????
If this time Madhu had given in, it wouldn't take long before another test would be put infront of her again and so on...

I feel as long as RK himself doesn't deal with his insecurities, without listening to others esp Dipshit of all people who herself gave him the 3rd scar of his life, and deal with his past, RK will never be free...
He has to deal with his past, he has to overcome the pain and the hurt, otherwise he will never be able to trust Madhu fully, no matter what she's going to do or say to convince him otherwise and LOVE without TRUST is simply not possible...


Edited by eshasrk - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: eshasrk

My question is now :

why would Madhu leave everything behind, when RK himself is not willing to leave it ???
Even if Madhu had said YES and passed the test and said ok I will leave your status, money, fame , stardom everything behind...what would have happened ????
Is RK willing to give up on his superstar status, his wealth and everything else that comes with his stardom ????
It would hv made NO sense, coz momentarily RK would be convinced and after a couple of days they would be in the same situation, where again the money, fame question would have been raised maybe this time by someone else...so what difference does Madhu's YES would have made ???

The only difference would be if RK himself leaves everything behind and starts form scratch...only then would this problem hv been solved for ever !!!!
So this is why I cannot understand this love test where status, money & fame is involved and therefor so plain stupid...

My next question:

When will RK's insecurities come to an end exactly ??? Would they come to an end and vanished for once and for all if Madhu had said YES ????
If this time Madhu had given in, it wouldn't take long before another test would be put infront of her again and so on...

I feel as long as RK himself doesn't deal with his insecurities, without listening to others esp Dipshit of all people who herself gave him the 3rd scar of his life, and deal with his past, RK will never be free...
He has to deal with his past, he has to overcome the pain and the hurt, otherwise he will never be able to trust Madhu fully, no matter what she's going to do or say to convince him otherwise and LOVE without TRUST is simply not possible...



For your first question, it was a mere test, RK had no intention of really going anyway, leaving his stardom or wealth, when she put her hand in his and they left the farmhouse, he would have taken her out for a drive or a walk something romantic and there he would have told her how much faith he had in her answer and she confirmed what he was confident she would say. Thank you Biwi.

Your second question you've answered it...😆, it's a loop of mistrust Esha, Dips would have whispered something else in his ears for him to mistrust Madhu yet again, so no matter what Madhu has done in the past to reassure him didn't, this test again wouldn't have reassured him. The only thing that is left to reassure him now is if he does loose his wealth and stardom and madhu refuses to leave him when another marriage proposal comes her way...perhaps that will reassure him that she is not Dipali, who jumped for someone else when she was given a more lucrative offer/profitable alliance. 😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nafs_Sweetheart


For your first question, it was a mere test, RK had no intention of really going anyway, leaving his stardom or wealth, when she put her hand in his and they left the farmhouse, he would have taken her out for a drive or a walk something romantic and there he would have told her how much faith he had in her answer and she confirmed what he was confident she would say. Thank you Biwi.

Your second question you've answered it...😆, it's a loop of mistrust Esha, Dips would have whispered something else in his ears for him to mistrust Madhu yet again, so no matter what Madhu has done in the past to reassure him didn't, this test again wouldn't have reassured him. The only thing that is left to reassure him now is if he does loose his wealth and stardom and madhu refuses to leave him when another marriage proposal comes her way...perhaps that will reassure him that she is not Dipali, who jumped for someone else when she was given a more lucrative offer/profitable alliance. 😃


I agree Nafz...the only way for RK to be convinced that Madhu loves only him for him is when RK looses everything he has and Madhu stays with him in his struggle and doesn't leave him...
Otherwise I don't see any other way for this complexed person to believe Madhu or trust her.
Cause if he can easily forget all Madhu did for him, only becoz Dipshit whispered something else to him...what else can we expect from him ???
Again he might realize that he's wrong and then what ???? Not even a proper sorry comes out of his mouth, coz he's too proud to say it 😡

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