Episode Discussion: 10th Oct 2012 - Page 12

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Posted: 12 years ago

Leela, SD... You guys are giving new new meaning to the visarjan scene.. And all are brilliant interpretations...

re Radhaji.. I agree with your assessment of Radhaji.. But I think RK's attitude towards his mother is going to change after this incident.. Hope Radhaji sees the light soon wrt her husband, step son and step DIL.. She is either blind to their faults or deliberately not seeing them... Whatever be the case, she should remove her tinted glasses and see through them with clear eyes..

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: applenpeaches

Leela, SD... You guys are giving new new meaning to the visarjan scene.. And all are brilliant interpretations...

re Radhaji.. I agree with your assessment of Radhaji.. But I think RK's attitude towards his mother is going to change after this incident.. Hope Radhaji sees the light soon wrt her husband, step son and step DIL.. She is either blind to their faults or deliberately not seeing them... Whatever be the case, she should remove her tinted glasses and see through them with clear eyes..

Thanks, Sonu.😳
Re. Radhaji, the soft perfect hue of her rose-tinted glasses would make even Pollyanna gnash her teeth with jealousy.😡😆
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: leelaa9

Thanks, Sonu.😳
Re. Radhaji, the soft perfect hue of her rose-tinted glasses would make even Pollyanna gnash her teeth with jealousy.😡😆

Ha ha ha.. Pollyanna is one of my favourite books... I cry every time I read it ..

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Posted: 12 years ago
Wow Ladies👏

So we can safely say that the entire Ganesh Chaturthi and Ganesh Visarjan track was indeed necessary.

Ladies , take a bow...All the interpretation, interrelation and hidden meaning behind the Visarjan scene,,, amazing...










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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: shiv_parvati

Wow Ladies👏


So we can safely say that the entire Ganesh Chaturthi and Ganesh Visarjan track was indeed necessary.

Ladies , take a bow...All the interpretation, interrelation and hidden meaning behind the Visarjan scene,,, amazing...


Really I am also amazed at their interpretations... 👏 from me too..
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

  • Madhu looking at her heart and chanting her mantra
When she sees RK in the OT on the bed and when sees the open wound, Madhu's heart-beat increases. She gets panicky. And what does Madhu do in panic ???? She chants her Veer, Dheer and Balbeer Mantra. Earlier when was stuck in the studio at the bridge, RK came to her rescue. Now she is chanting again. So any guesses who will come to her rescue ? Well not yet...Let's wait for the drama to unfold a little bit.

Check out Poco's absolutely fantastic 'The Beast Palace' series, SD.😃
One of the pieces specifically and beyond all doubt established that Madhu's Veer, Dheer and Balveer are all her husband Rishabh.⭐️😆👏
But yes, the actual prayer said by Padmini on at least one occasion and addressed to an actual deity is immensely less iritating than Madhu's replacing the deity's name with "meri maa" whenever she chants the prayer.😕
A prayer is supposed to inspire some kind of empathy and reverence. This prayer - or rather Madhu's version of it - just grates and irritates.
Usually, whenever she chanted this prayer, Bappa the matchmaker would either ensure a win for her or RK, depending on which would get them closer together.😳
And then, the memorable instance when she chanted that prayer while dangling through a bridge in the studio, and lo and behold, RK - apparently Bappa's version of the personification of that prayer - arrived in the nick of time.😲😆😳
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0


Establishing and Demolishing of relationships.

1. Madhu - Radhaji bonding. - Established and Cemented now.
Madhu told the mother, Rishabh is a fighter and has always fought in his life. So this too, he will be fighting. And that Bappa cannot let himself lose his devotee when he won him after this long time. There was conviction and a bonding. Madhu made her mother Padmini proud there and made Deepali completely go green with jealousy and red with rage. Just like her saree.

The really interesting thing re. Madhu and Radha (I cannot call her 'ji'. I don't use 'ji' for Kukku, Padmini and Shamsher, so most definitely not for Radha the spineless putty.) is whether Radha will resist the Bhatia trio badmouthing Madhu.😕
The saas-bahu bonding is sweet 😊, but it's serving to blindfold Madhu to a large extent to the actual fault in the Rishabh-Radha relationship.😡
Radha is becoming as crippling a weakening point for Madhu as for Rishabh.
And if Radha doesn't stick by Madhu in the face of her wretched second family🤢 - if she caves in and lets herself be persuaded into thinking ill of Madhu -, then I want Madhu not to play the respectful bahu but rather to draw the battleline.😳
Remind Radha Bhatia that among all his relatives, the only one RK acknowledges or wants is not 'usey janam denewaali aurat' but his wife Madhubala Rishabh Kundra.😡😃
Radha worries me, not because she is evil, but because she so utterly embodies the phrase 'tyranny of the weak'.🤢
Whenever she - a heartbroken loving mother - badmouthed her son😡, Madhu and Padmini were inclined to think that this is a loving mother.
It never occurred to them that if you love someone, you don't badmouth them at every point to anyone and everyone.
Rishabh just used the distancing cold phrasing to speak of his mother, and Madhu found it offensive.
But he never spoke of how much his mother has failed him to maintain her belief that her second marriage was the best thing for *him*.
That is love and loyalty.⭐️
Radha may love, but she has not even a fraction of her son's astounding capacity for loyalty.⭐️😳
As to Padmini's approving reactions to Madhu's words and actions😳, Padmini believes in maintaining relationships. 😊
If either her daughter or son-in-law gave her even a fraction of a reason to believe this marriage had commitment from at least one side, she would want the marriage to continue even unhappily.
And her recent understanding that RK considers bad deeds something to showcase and present, and goodness something to conceal😕, has made her quite amenable to having him as her daughter's husband.😃
The only concern she had was whether her modern citybred daughter Madhu - who had always resented Padmini's commitment to her own horrid marriage - would compromise and accept a marriage that would take quite some work.😕
And Madhu's behaviour with regard to her wounded husband - her concern, faith, assurance and understanding of his character😳 - were the reassurance Madhu's mother needed that her daughter would honour the marriage, and she need not hesitate to show her own inclination in the matter for fear of pressuring Madhu.😳😃
Edited by leelaa9 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0


Establishing and Demolishing of relationships.

2. Madhu - Deepali confrontation - Devrani -Bhabhi rishta demolished.
So Madhu declared that she is RK's wife and will never leave him. Completion of the circle. Two weeks back RK said that and now Madhu says it. The money-offer from Deepali left Madhu on that day to declare herself that all matters between RK and her were to be dealt in private way with 3rd person to come in between. Today, when it is the question mark on RK's existence, it becomes also the case of Madhu's identity. Deepali with her green face could not control herself and she had to make Madhu acknowledge all the latent rishta between herself and RK.
Well atleast the Biwi fumed just like RK fumed at intruder.

3. Deepali
She was selfishly concerned. She was concerned because her pack of cards was falling. And what would she do now ?? Its the frenzy of a psycho mind.
4. Kukku and Sikky Bhatia
Do I need even to talk about them. Perfect examples of parasites. Leech.
The way Kukku looked at Sikky for saying out Bandook, it hinted that both Kukku and Sikky are together in the plan to extort money out of RK. They would rather have him die than live. Yes, they get to keep RK's property. Good move 😎
5. Bittuji
Finally the news is out. Everyone has heard that Sultan has called Bittuji minutes before the shooting happened. So no worries of any ugly dramas now.

Re. your points about the 2. Madhu - Deepali confrontation and 3. Deepali, I concur.😃👏
But re. Sikky Bhatia, I don't believe he's capable of such deep thought and a plan spaced over many days. He's capable of being vile and venal spontaneously.
But his father is the sort of viper to pull such a stunt. Not even a particularly cunning viper.😕
It's just that RK - having to endure the wretched lot🤢 under his roof and around him - seems to have deliberately turned a blind eye to threats emanating from the Bhatia father-son duo and mostly Shurpanakha as well.
Not at all a prudent move in terms of his own wellbeing, but his damnable loyalty to his mother *is* the one flaw I have the most problem with.😡
And there, I'm done.😛😆 Thanks for the inspiring take-off points.😃👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
Leela,

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Radha worries me, not because she is evil, but because she so utterly embodies the phrase 'tyranny of the weak'.🤢
Whenever she - a heartbroken loving mother - badmouthed her son😡, Madhu and Padmini were inclined to think that this is a loving mother.
It never occurred to them that if you love someone, you don't badmouth them at every point to anyone and everyone.
Rishabh just used the distancing cold phrasing to speak of his mother, and Madhu found it offensive.
But he never spoke of how much his mother has failed him to maintain her belief that her second marriage was the best thing for *him*.
That is love and loyalty.⭐️
Radha may love, but she has not even a fraction of her son's astounding capacity for loyalty.⭐️😳

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Agree.
And that's why I called these three women (Radha, Madhu and Padmini) as important women in RK's life.

On surface these three are idiots.

Radha thought if she remarries, Rishu will get a new father, as if FATHER is a commodity. IDIOT number 1. Does she even understand what loving memories can do ? or she just lives in tangible things and doesn't store anything in her brain. So she could erase her first husband's memories, she could erase her child's affection for his father. And same way she erases Bhatia's bad deeds. And same way she erases what RK actually does for her and her family.
She is one brainless idiot.
She is RK's mother. One cannot possibly deny the relationship there. Chaahke bhi na hoga. So RK lives with that truth.



Madhu - thinks she can take down a superstar to support a spineless Mukund who is not even her ANYTHING. I can understand her good deed if Mukku was fighting the case and she was asked to come as a witness and she goes there. So IDIOT number 2. Trishna was 100% right when she blamed Madhu for the mishaps to Shamsher.
And not only that Madhu takes ages to understand Dipali is not good. She takes ages to understand Radha is not hauslon waali Padmini.
The day Madhu shows this sign, I will stop calling her idiot.
She doesn't have any dreams for herself and looks very simple. And I think that naive state calls for RK to compare himself with her and to know why they are different. He had already lot of background information on her, before RK seriously starts contemplating on her. RK is a creation of Rishabh Kundra. So it is his study as how this girl developed herself.
She is the mirror image of Rishu (Rishabh Kundra).
She is a Mama's girl and living by her mom's beliefs and standards. Rishu also was a Tiger for his father and even when growing up as RK, he lives to live his father's dreams.
There is certain kinship feeling here and therefore RK decides to marry her. Because the only logic out of the illogical common girl becoming important part of his life, is then to bow to it and deal with it. ...Fate and Destiny. Else why is his marriage proposal though from RK has words and beliefs of Rishabh Kundra. Why was he waiting the whole night drinking with apprehension if she will accept or not.


Padmini - aimless living. Idiot number 3 Just a mother. Take her two daughters away from her. What is she left with. Questions that she has not answered yet to herself or the society. What does she think of her first husband ? If a monster, why did you not dissolve the marriage. If forever married, living a separate life from husband, after 7 years, the couple if they approach the court, can as well get divorce. Fine she is in hiding. How long will this continue ?
What does she think of Shamsher Malik ? What kind of platonic relationship is that ? Or is it that she is living in Roma's house. Okay, then not her problem. Then why did she allow Madhu to call him a father ? Didn't she , coming from a conservative background know that, that act is like invitation to open pandora's box.
She is what RK is. Aimless living and lot of questions that rather be not answered.

So it is the son, Rishabh and RK that got binded to these three women.

Madhu and Padmini are already bound. Now that Madhu is bound to Radha, expect more idiocies from them towards RK.

Together these three will make his life a conundrum and RK just enjoys that.

The importance will go away once Rishabh Kundra will realise love in his heart for people around him and stop looking for father figures and mother figures and semblances of family.
For all of this he needs to grow up.

He grew up without love.
Now let him grow with lots of idiotic love from these three women. He is bound to go somewhere where he will find his peace.







Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago

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