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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: -Srushti-

Hey Fatty ( hope can call you that😳) Wow!! glad to know there are some classical music lovers on the forum...That is what I thought when was hearing the bg of 'Ma dha pa ga sa' during the halwa wala scene....
The way she was niharofying Dutta while holding the plate of gajar ka halwa made me feel that she is still in so much awe of him...during the past few months she has seen him at his worst (specially the DP track)...but right now she is seeing the metal inside him which makes him Dutta....the man who can command attention blind or not....can rise from the ashes like a phoenix...and that man is actually praising her sugar less gajar ka halwa...
Truly she has come so far...Bappa's lucky girl as you say😃


Hmm, isn't it so funny how one can think back to those times so long ago or those burning memories during such a scene and it only magnifies and adds tenfold to the warmth and love of their evolution...the journey makes the destination even more beautiful and valuable. Funnily enough, it even evokes a sense of gratitude in the viewer on Nakku and Dutta's parts...that they've FOUND each other, their soulmates, after life's difficulties and ups and downs 😊

And in Dutta's tremendous evolution as a man, lover, even son and brother...we almost feel like Nakku has always been the same, that she's remained the same Nakku...but she has GROWN so much in life too...and so beautifully. Babi would be proud of her 😊

Originally posted by: nureat01

Beautifully said, Fatty! Indeed it's been an amazing journey.....which is why anytime you go back and watch old scenes, you fall in love with this story all over again because they've shown TREMENDOUS evolution for the characters with the circumstances, joys, sorrows they've been through to get to this point.....once there was that Nakku who thought Dutta was her 'chand'....something to be admired from afar but something she could never attain....a man of such presence, a man of such character.....

The happiness and pure love reflected in her eyes in the halwa scene was really sweet.....these moments where it's like she is so thankful for these blessings....almost silently thanking Bappa somewhere to have blessed her with all that she ever yearned for and had thought she might never get.


Originally posted by: nureat01

.....her eyes shine with this light that's almost indescribable


Wordddddd! So, so true! There were bits in that scene where she is sitting on the ground in front of him, looking up...he keeps her heart in the most beautiful manner that a man can, by appreciating what she has made for him, even lying about it...and she looks at him with her heart in her eyes...that thankfulness like you said...almost like she can't believe it herself...

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: nureat01



@ bold ..I think she will always be in awe of him in a sense, Srushti.....because before everything she ADMIRES him so much as a man.....with all his faults and everything....there is a tremendous amount of RESPECT that she has for him....and yet she is just as protective, sometimes mothering, sometimes firm, sometimes stubborn, sometimes child-like when it comes to him too.....she has all these almost paradoxical traits within her and her various ways of dealing with him.....her love for Dutta is very multi-faceted, yet unconditional.....it starts with that awe that was there since day one....and it's grown in depth the more she's known him......one of the very reasons why she probably can never let go of calling him "saab" too....again it starts with that respect/awe and then it grows into all those other emotions she feels for him.....she looks at him like he's the core of her existence.


I think this pretty much sums up the whole thing😊
The paradoxical traits within her and the way she deals with him in various ways...the way she was always tongue tied with him, but also was the one to tell him his draw backs....one who could give him lectures on how much it takes to make karanji, and take him forcefully to select an MS for his wife....but would be just too afraid to step out with him in the crowd waiting to meet Dutta....When Dutta asked her once that whether she could see his drawbacks...she did not say no..she did not see any drawbacks...she said that when you emotions take over you, you tend to fall apart....yet she gets conscious when he says that he has never fed her na??? and she says no😆
The way she is oblivious to everything except Dutta is one of her endearing qualities...she is so engrossed in him that she knows nothing else...in fact she did not even mind Kala torturing her until she revealed that it is Dutta she wants to harm...it was then Nakku raised her head😃
you are spot on ...she looks at him like he is the core of her existence, the pivot on which her whole world revolves😊...

Edited by -Srushti- - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
Totally agree Anu, a real struggle of emotions and now he has finally let go.. I was thinking, this couple don't need to go through what happened in that period of time post FR, who was being humiliated, who was suffering etc etc. It was never about that. Their relationship doesn't seem to require any explanation from 1 person or another. And somewhere in yesterday's scene, I was thinking, will Naku elaborate more on Dutta's antics during his drunken state? But there was nothing! It was like both of them were having a little giggle amongst themselves about that torrid time! Dutta asked her staright up, she replied and that was it! Like reminiscing about the bad times for a little laugh at Dutta's stupidity! So refreshingly nice!

Loved your little view on Naku.... I watched that mindblowing episode (hug at Anna's den). What a character Anna was! Quality dialogues and acting from him in that episode! The uncanny personality added with a comic touch was just sooo good. And what struck me is Naku's monologue about how she thinks her beauty has been her curse...something like that...and almost in a kiddish way she bursts into tears....that was just something else...and how Anna put kajal on her to see what Dutta 'sees' in her in that form , but she replied 'yehi to fark ha tumhara aur Saab ka beech ma, woh insaan ka dil ko dikhta ha.' She has been in awe of Dutta for looking beyond her ugly apperance as well...and she still possesses that child like trait...
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: make-believe


Wordddddd! So, so true! There were bits in that scene where she is sitting on the ground in front of him, looking up...he keeps her heart in the most beautiful manner that a man can, by appreciating what she has made for him, even lying about it...and she looks at him with her heart in her eyes...that thankfulness like you said...almost like she can't believe it herself...




@bold: Worddd! I loveeeeeee your line about how he keeps her heart *sigh*😍 and yes the way she looks at him with her heart in her eyes....all her love for him shining in her eyes.....Loveeeeeeeeeeeee your coloring on this cap😍😍


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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: neets_ltl

Totally agree with you guys - WORD. I was going through the scenes where Dutta refused to accept Naku, post FR. The way he was saying in the bedroom when Naku is recovering from being shot, about how she shouldn't think it's because of love that he is helping her, that he doesn't forget the 'ehsaan' for saving his life....his whole arrogant demeanour and refusal to look in her eye is such a contrast to the present! Now he himself is so freely able to touch her and initiate playful interactions....in the scene where Naku trips clumsily, he was finding it difficult to touch her back...just a tranformation from Dutta's side too. Truly, Naku has gone through a journey...and not once has she said 'uff' through it all...not once has she given up on him, her love. I admire her for committing to Dutta all through the troubled times. And now we're seeing Dutta, a man who truly loves his woman...comfort and love just oozes...and yesterday's scene was just the best out of the whole week...it was just something else 😍


Exactly what I meant...so well pointed out, Neets! I think that is one of the most painful things one person can do to another...not look them in the eye because of hurt or anger which drives home the pain even more...and Dutta did that to Nakku for a long, long time. He ignored her presence when she stood in front of him with her heart bared...like that scene where he comes back home from the helicopter crash and walks by her...there is so much awareness between them, so much physical tension, yet he doesn't even give her the respect or bliss of acknowledging that she has been crying and so worried for him...that scene the morning when Ganpat and Babi leave PN...he refuses to look at her, or to look at Baaji, or anyone else either...he stares at thin air while saying the most cutting things...that silent treatment...for so long, was such a huge part of their relationship. And where they've managed to come from it now is amazing...how Dutta has gradually changed from that stiff rock into someone molten, but then again there are the ironies like Anu said, that now he cannot even look her in the eye though he wants to with all his heart and soul...amazing how times and life change.
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: make-believe


Hmm, isn't it so funny how one can think back to those times so long ago or those burning memories during such a scene and it only magnifies and adds tenfold to the warmth and love of their evolution...the journey makes the destination even more beautiful and valuable. Funnily enough, it even evokes a sense of gratitude in the viewer on Nakku and Dutta's parts...that they've FOUND each other, their soulmates, after life's difficulties and ups and downs 😊

And in Dutta's tremendous evolution as a man, lover, even son and brother...we almost feel like Nakku has always been the same, that she's remained the same Nakku...but she has GROWN so much in life too...and so beautifully. Babi would be proud of her 😊
That is one prime thing LTL has shown us...character development...whether it be Dutta, Nakku or even Kala...from the sister who just wanted to be the centre of her brother's life and keep milking his riches for herself...to the woman thirsting her brother's blood and capturing her own mother and sisters....Kala has come a long way....
Tasha journey has been the one very interesting...It was funny though, that Nakku who was supposed to be the one talking had her life wrapped in blanket of secrets...whereas Dutta who was supposed to be shy and reclusive had opened his life book before her...he had no secrets with her..
When two people like them meet there is this obvious chemstry which changes all the equations and we have just witnessed that....the jhalli phulli Nakku who would laugh at her own joke 'Kalimitti' to the Nakku who is obviously plagued by the thought of a flower which could cure her husband's eyes is not reachable....she has gone through a lot....

I loved loved the way she just kept staring at him and he had to remind her to give him the plate...it looked like that for her at that moment the world had come to stand still for her....and her raison d'etre was right before her eyes...she needed nothing else to survive on...

Wordddddd! So, so true! There were bits in that scene where she is sitting on the ground in front of him, looking up...he keeps her heart in the most beautiful manner that a man can, by appreciating what she has made for him, even lying about it...and she looks at him with her heart in her eyes...that thankfulness like you said...almost like she can't believe it herself...


She has her heart in her eyes when she is hearing him talk....love her total and utter devotion😊
Edited by -Srushti- - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: -Srushti-


I think this pretty much sums up the whole thing😊
The paradoxical traits within her and the way she deals with him in various ways...the way she was always tongue tied with him, but also was the one to tell him his draw backs....one who could give him lectures on how much it takes to make karanji, and take him forcefully to select an MS for his wife....but would be just too afraid to step out with him in the crowd waiting to meet Dutta....When Dutta asked her once that whether she could see his drawbacks...she did not say no..she did not see any drawbacks...she said that when you emotions take over you, you tend to fall apart....yet she gets conscious when he says that he has never fed her na??? and she says no😆 LOL and that is what makes her paradoxes so adorable....she does see his drawbacks, but she doesn't make excuses for him....she is his STRENGTH when he most needs her....she's had this unconscious radar inside her since the very beginning when it comes to him....she always senses what he needs....even when he himself may not know it.....lol.....especially in times when his faith or his inner strength may be flagging, that's when Nakku's strongest traits come to the fore and she takes charge....for HIS sake.....she strengthens him from within....only she has had the power to do that for him always....LOL and yes other times, she is just a normal girl hopelessly in love with this larger than life man😆....and he flusters her by complimenting her in the simplest of ways😆


The way she is oblivious to everything except Dutta is one of her endearing qualities...she is so engrossed in him that she knows anything else...in fact she did not even mind Kala torturing her until she revealed that it is Dutta she wants to harm...it was then Nakku raised her head😃
you are spot on ...she looks at him like he is the core of her existence, the pivot on which her whole world revolves😊...WORD.....I LOVE that about her.....she truly is oblivious to everything except Dutta....everything begins and ends with Dutta for her....and not in an obsessive manner.....but in the sweetest, more endearing, PUREST of ways.....it's that innocent, child-like core of hers that makes it so.....she loves him stubbornly, passionately, innocently and almost worshipingly.

Edited by nureat01 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: make-believe


Exactly what I meant...so well pointed out, Neets! I think that is one of the most painful things one person can do to another...not look them in the eye because of hurt or anger which drives home the pain even more...and Dutta did that to Nakku for a long, long time. He ignored her presence when she stood in front of him with her heart bared...like that scene where he comes back home from the helicopter crash and walks by her...there is so much awareness between them, so much physical tension, yet he doesn't even give her the respect or bliss of acknowledging that she has been crying and so worried for him...that scene the morning when Ganpat and Babi leave PN...he refuses to look at her, or to look at Baaji, or anyone else either...he stares at thin air while saying the most cutting things...that silent treatment...for so long, was such a huge part of their relationship. And where they've managed to come from it now is amazing...how Dutta has gradually changed from that stiff rock into someone molten, but then again there are the ironies like Anu said, that now he cannot even look her in the eye though he wants to with all his heart and soul...amazing how times and life change.


Word!!! Even that struck me when they were hiding behind the rock during their escapade...and he was trying to see her face...how he must be regretting telling her he doesnot want to see her manhoos face...the same face he is so hankering to see right now..his fingers feeling her face were so thirsting to be his eyes...that is irony indeed
Edited by -Srushti- - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: neets_ltl

Loved your little view on Naku.... I watched that mindblowing episode (hug at Anna's den). What a character Anna was! Quality dialogues and acting from him in that episode! The uncanny personality added with a comic touch was just sooo good. And what struck me is Naku's monologue about how she thinks her beauty has been her curse...something like that...and almost in a kiddish way she bursts into tears....that was just something else...and how Anna put kajal on her to see what Dutta 'sees' in her in that form , but she replied 'yehi to fark ha tumhara aur Saab ka beech ma, woh insaan ka dil ko dikhta ha.' She has been in awe of Dutta for looking beyond her ugly apperance as well...and she still possesses that child like trait...


You see Neets, why we need the Morey track or at least a closure to Nakku's issues, one through which Dutta can help her this time? IMO, it will be the most beautiful thing...I want Dutta to make Nakku feel like her beauty is a GIFT...something which she can come to terms with and even be content with rather than always hanging on to the bad memories...she is a determined and willful girl, but even she needs liberation from the shadows of the likes of Morey and Anna to bury her demons...and isn't Dutta, a man so strong and honorable, the perfect foil to change her prejudices and ease her fears forever? It's like Bappa brought them together so that they could SOLVE each other...

Originally posted by: nureat01

@bold: Worddd! I loveeeeeee your line about how he keeps her heart *sigh*😍and yes the way she looks at him with her heart in her eyes....all her love for him shining in her eyes.....Loveeeeeeeeeeeee your coloring on this cap😍😍


Lol, I retrieved it from Recycle Bin because it fittt so well with what you said about her gratitude...it truly encompasses that in the way she is looking up at him.
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: make-believe

IMO, it will be the most beautiful thing...I want Dutta to make Nakku feel like her beauty is a GIFT...something which she can come to terms with and even be content with rather than always hanging on to the bad memories...she is a determined and willful girl, but even she needs liberation from the shadows of the likes of Morey and Anna to bury her demons...and isn't Dutta, a man so strong and honorable, the perfect foil to change her prejudices and ease her fears forever? It's like Bappa brought them together so that they could SOLVE each other...




WORD, Fatty! So beautifully said!

Ahh but I dunno WHEN they will ever explore the issue of Nakku thinking of her beauty as a curse again....it's kinda been largely forgotten in the show now.....no mention of it except around a few times in the FR days when she was trying to explain to him.....Nakku herself seems to have forgotten her whole "my beauty is a curse" funda since she's so blissfully happy with Dutta😆

I hope they bring Morey back but seems like slim chances at this point.....oh well even if not him, SOME guy needs to shown leching after Nakku again so that this issue can be explored......it HAS to be.....Nakku has solved so much of Dutta, he needs to understand this aspect of her life in depth too and free her from the memories of her traumas and learn to love herself inside and out.

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