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Posted: 14 years ago
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Seema's face off should be an Aha moment for him where he feels that he is angry with her but suprisingly, he doesnt feel the pangs of intense pain that he should have, if he was the Dutta we met on day 1!...And that should make him realize the power and new facet of Naku's love and cherish it more...cling to it more.....
Dont get me wrong, i too feel that Dutta would react very intensely and strongly...but I am just wondering, shouldnt he suprise himself with a mellowed down reaction and then brood on why isnt he feeling the same excruciating pain NOW, the pain that once led him to be a DON? If he has ever thought about what it would feel like coming face to face with Seema again, I am sure he would have imagined a very aggressive response from his side....but when she actually comes in front of him, his reaction surprises him because thats the difference Naku has created.....
After reading the above post I'm now understanding the point of Kala's instigation on the night of the D-Nakku reunion jashn. D was re-living the trauma it being the anniversary of his descent into hell.Now when he actually faces Seema he'd shock himself by not feeling the pangs of intense pain & aggression he should be feeling.And that would be another slap to Kala too. I should say the ultimate slap.If D is healed of that wound then 26 yrs of burning in hate,plotting & scheming has just gone down the drain.Phoos! I'd love to see her expression then.He has survived numerous attacks on his life & he will survive again tonight.It'd still be a small victory.But if Kala becomes aware of this new Dutta she'd know how she has lost pitifully & completely.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: ZubyDutta

After reading the above post I'm now understanding the point of Kala's instigation on the night of the D-Nakku reunion jashn. D was re-living the trauma it being the anniversary of his descent into hell.Now when he actually faces Seema he'd shock himself by not feeling the pangs of intense pain & aggression he should be feeling.And that would be another slap to Kala too. I should say the ultimate slap.If D is healed of that wound then 26 yrs of burning in hate,plotting & scheming has just gone down the drain.Phoos! I'd love to see her expression then.He has survived numerous attacks on his life & he will survive again tonight.It'd still be a small victory.But if Kala becomes aware of this new Dutta she'd know how she has lost pitifully & completely.

I have been thinking about Kala's words too Zuby....Correct me if I am wrong, but when Kala talks about Seema, he did have a flashback about his past but he was more into Naku and even his song was dedicated to Naku and did not include his pain from the past - right?.....
Anyways, I was just wondering, does forgiving Seema have a connection with forgiving Naku?...To me they are issues at two different planes because the people involved are at different planes...In one's case,Dutta knows Seema never loved him but in other's case, he knows Naku loves him...thats makes a big difference.....I am not saying that Dutta wouldnt or shouldnt react to Seema's comeback, just tht it wouldnt destroy him, the way kala might perceive because he might be far from feeling the connection or pain borne out of feelings...he can definitely display hatred for what she did to him and what he turned out to be...There can definitely be a track where Seema works towards repentance, might want Dutta back in her life to show her love and the human side and eventually Dutta forgives her and let bygones be bygones but makes it clear that Its Naku now...That too would be an interesting track....but my Q was only on how intensely would he feel towards her comeback...His undented and unbroken bond with Naku, inspite of Seema's presence would definitely be one more failure inKala's kitty!! I guess Kala might see Seema and hatch one more plan...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hey DD,

Interesting post!

Well, Dutta's initial reaction will be shock. Coming face to face with the one person who is responsible for him becoming Dutta Bhau, the initial reaction is bound to be shock and rage. But try as he might, he will find that deadly rage missing. He will hate the sight of her, but the old Dutta who reacted without reason has died a death at the hands of love. Something tells me that he will not react the way we think he would. After the initial shock and rage, he will think back, and realize that he never loved this woman at all. Not the way he loves his wife. It will hit him in full force, that his journey's been arduous, but it has been worth it. I think this realization will also come when Seema asks for his forgiveness. He will realize that all the obstacles, the sorrows in his life have been so that he could be worthy of a love so magnificent.This is my take, I dunno if the CVs will choose to show it that way. I really want a scene where Dutta realizes that he has never truly loved a woman until Nakusha. I wish they show it!

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I have been thinking about Kala's words too Zuby....Correct me if I am wrong, but when Kala talks about Seema, he did have a flashback about his past but he was more into Naku and even his song was dedicated to Naku and did not include his pain from the past - right?.....
Exactly.His core thinking has completely turned Nakku oriented.Everything is in relation to Nakku that much has she permeated his being that where he spent 10 yrs brooding over the Seema Affair, now inadvertently his thoughts don't last more than a few moments on Seema.
Anyways, I was just wondering, does forgiving Seema have a connection with forgiving Naku?...To me they are issues at two different planes because the people involved are at different planes...In one's case,Dutta knows Seema never loved him but in other's case, he knows Naku loves him...thats makes a big difference....
Seema indulged in the most heinous & unforgivable sin of adultery that too while being committed to someone like Dutta.She & Nakku are the opposite ends of the world. Whereas D doesn't think Nakku committed any sin.From his behaviour I feel he is punishing himself more for not instilling enough confidence in her to tell him abt her secret.The one thing he loved abt her is her fearlessness of him but he perceives that it was out of fear she hid her truth.
.I am not saying that Dutta wouldnt or shouldnt react to Seema's comeback, just tht it wouldnt destroy him, the way kala might perceive because he might be far from feeling the connection or pain borne out of feelings...he can definitely display hatred for what she did to him and what he turned out to be...There can definitely be a track where Seema works towards repentance, might want Dutta back in her life to show her love and the human side and eventually Dutta forgives her and let bygones be bygones but makes it clear that Its Naku now...That too would be an interesting track....but my Q was only on how intensely would he feel towards her comeback...His undented and unbroken bond with Naku, inspite of Seema's presence would definitely be one more failure inKala's kitty!! I guess Kala might see Seema and hatch one more plan...
True.That would be the best punishment for these vile & selfish women. D & Nakku are & will in future too live rich & fullfilled life whereas these greedy women would have nothing to show for their miserable lives & watch D & N flourish from the sidelines.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nice post DD.

According to me, dutta on seeing seema vl be shocked. Shocked, neither hatred nor mushiness.

Shocked bcoz i don't think that he expected anything lyk this to happen in his life nd hence, he might not even think about this. It may be possible that after being shocked, he myt show his anger, BUT wen he vl think about it again, he vl himself recognise that seema is indeed a boon for him as hadn't she left him, he myt never be able to recognise the true luv. Hadn't seema left her, he myt never be able to meet naku.

Then after realising all this, he may thank to seema for leaving him nd then only he vl realise his luv for naku wich he himself knew but always try to escape from it. And after that he vl forgive naku nd accept her wid open arms.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: lizdarcy

Hey DD,

Interesting post!

Well, Dutta's initial reaction will be shock. Coming face to face with the one person who is responsible for him becoming Dutta Bhau, the initial reaction is bound to be shock and rage. But try as he might, he will find that deadly rage missing. He will hate the sight of her, but the old Dutta who reacted without reason has died a death at the hands of love. Something tells me that he will not react the way we think he would. After the initial shock and rage, he will think back, and realize that he never loved this woman at all. Not the way he loves his wife. It will hit him in full force, that his journey's been arduous, but it has been worth it. I think this realization will also come when Seema asks for his forgiveness. He will realize that all the obstacles, the sorrows in his life have been so that he could be worthy of a love so magnificent.This is my take, I dunno if the CVs will choose to show it that way. I really want a scene where Dutta realizes that he has never truly loved a woman until Nakusha. I wish they show it!

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u have spoken my mind Liz...Exactly and precisely what I feel.....His initial shock and rage are acceptable and natural reactions....and I too feel that he would find the deadly rage missing.....
I feel this would help him go deeper in his heart and recognize openly the changes his heart has gone thru' which he might still be unaware of....It would get him more closer to Naku...Everything is gradually building up for his full hearted acceptance of Naku and her love.....
and I too do not know if CVs would take the track in this direction but I would hope for it too....
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruti10august

Nice post DD.

According to me, dutta on seeing seema vl be shocked. Shocked, neither hatred nor mushiness.

Shocked bcoz i don't think that he expected anything lyk this to happen in his life nd hence, he might not even think about this. It may be possible that after being shocked, he myt show his anger, BUT wen he vl think about it again, he vl himself recognise that seema is indeed a boon for him as hadn't she left him, he myt never be able to recognise the true luv. Hadn't seema left her, he myt never be able to meet naku.

Then after realising all this, he may thank to seema for leaving him nd then only he vl realise his luv for naku wich he himself knew but always try to escape from it. And after that he vl forgive naku nd accept her wid open arms.

hmmm....Interesting....
and "shock" as the initial reaction is acceptable...I definitely see him shocked....and then angry but for what Seema represents as Human to him....
and on his recognizing love for Naku....If I had not watched last week's episode, I would have not agreed that Dutta doesnt recognize his love for Naku....I always felt that he knows he loves her but he cant forgive the "dhokaa" at any cost inspite of his feelings for Naku but surprisingly, there were 2 scenes where he went into self denial and thought that he cant love a dhokebaaz...and love is not a possibility,....that did pinch me because I didnt know tht he would question his love for her....so, I guess he has to rediscover his love in her....😕😕
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hi, very nice post, this is a journey of Datta to Dattabhau, from Datta-Seema to Datta-Naku, all emotional turmoils Datta has undergone in past 7 or10 years may start ending now, he may start summurising different people, events in different perspective now & become overproctetive to Naku, realising that she is the same Naku he loved.Let's hope Kala's true face is also revealed soon, so he can get over with ET's schemes & moves ahead in life, with his true love, true friend, true sister & AS.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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arreh wah.. DD is back now and posting too... me having the happiest grin on face🤗

to be honest Liz has put down extremely well what my thoughts are..
he will be shocked and there will be anger.. let's not forget it's a daily soap😉..i would prefer him to just go into a zombie state where she does not even exist for him.. his heart and soul belongs to nakku and recognises no one.. of course, the sight of her will bring in hatred as she is the cause of turning his life upside down and turning him into a don.. he lost that innocent dutta due to him.. nakku had managed to show him that the innocence is still in him and to learn to trust and believe in himself and love.. that should not go to waste and it will not.. and this is where her re-appearance though will bring forth anger, will not last long.. as to put it bluntly, she has no place in his heart.. she is a stranger for him and so can also empathise with her and not sympathise..
and DD, dont think he needs to re-discover his love for nakku dear.. it's always been in his heart.. that love is in his every being and existence.. he has been mouthing off dialogues like dhokebaaz se pyar nahin kar sakta and wat not.. but that was just to pacify his heart which was making all the right noises every time nakku came in sight.. it was sort of trying to reassure himself that he has no feelings for her.. re-assure others as well that he has no feelings for her.. waise, people keep on denying with such intensity when the truth is something completely opposite to it, na?!
sorry, cant seem to write much as Liz has explained very well, what i would have thought :-)
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Seema's re-entry is important....because Dutta needs to and really needs to realize the difference between the GORI NAKU and Seema...so far he has been saying that she is trying to trap him with her beauty....with Seema's entry Dutta will be able to realize how wrong he was....he will be able to realize that all this while Naku did not do anything to trap him...instead just quietly did things for him and asked him for nothing....
Moreover, the ghosts of the past need to be exorcised in order to be free...Seema's coming back will make D realize that despite all the problems Nakku never compromised on life and her principles...she remained with the truth unlike Seema....
Today she might be regretting her actions but Seema did succumb to temptations which Naku did not...instead she preferred to remain ugly but pure!

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