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Posted: 15 years ago
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hi guys..HAPPY MISH DAY! 🤗 ...well its always a mish day for allof us isnt it??

hmm..so i was just watching the epi and came to know that baji is wanting nakku to continue to apply the black soot till he finds the ryt time to reveal it....and this hiding thingy will of course hit dutta very badly....
so just wanted to share that ...

1)one of his misconception is that all pretty women are betrayers....after the revelation and after knowing y nakku was sectretive he will understand that even gori ppl can be faithful ...

2)another misconception he has is that any person who keeps a secrets is a betrayer 😕 ...so everything should be clearly shown..no secrets no hidden truths..but guys dont u think that keeping secrets for GOOD is reasonable?? ...just like how nakku is keeping a secret for the good....similarly even baji will ask nakku to keep wearing the soot until they find the best chance to reveal it.....so again one of dutta's MU and misconception will be solved that ppl keeping secrets for the 'better' are not betrayers, traitors but can be trusted!!......dutta has always had his own set of rules and thoughts and one by one the realities of life will unveil and this is how he will start taking this the way he should....

3)i think not only nakku, baji or kala but also AS is keeping a secret from him 😛 ..that can be for the good or bad ..(we will discover that later) so dutta still has to go through a lot and will finally take refuge in nakku's heart 😆

so his viewpoints about certain things is wrong and will be solved very soon! 😆 ..
what say guys??...will catch u all tomorrow! 🤗
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Posted: 15 years ago
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hi nazia. am tiara. thanks for ur info i so want to believe this will happen, but i am so scared to think of notehr set of MUs bet naku n dutta n this time baji also. i hope in anger this time he does not amke naku and baji get married! 😔
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hey Nazia,
Interesting topic.

You know it is so hard to say, because hiding stuff, as you mention, secrets, can be done for good or bad. The problem is that what is "good" or "bad" is determined by the person doing the keeping/not telling (e.g. Naku, Dutta, AS). That is their perception of good and bad. But they cannot speak for Dutta, and say something is good for bad for him. So that is the reason I am giving such a noncommittal answer.

Keeping the truth from someone is always tricky and it's a calculated risk. You hope they don't find out for their sake, but if they do, you better pray for your own sake.

At the end of the day, there are times when you want to keep something from someone...and there may be a very good reason for it: to keep away pain,not upset them, not make them question or hate themselves. But you shouldn't keep a secret with an expectation that the other person is going to understand or should understand.

How is that for gray?

I think all these things are just trials for Dutta, just like everyone else has trials. I think he will be open to understanding, he won't shut himself off again. In fact, I think he will understand Baji's and Naku's reasons.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: tiaraf

hi nazia. am tiara. thanks for ur info i so want to believe this will happen, but i am so scared to think of notehr set of MUs bet naku n dutta n this time baji also. i hope in anger this time he does not amke naku and baji get married! 😔



hi tiara glad to have u here 🤗
actually i was very much moved after watching todays epi...i cant believe that dutta could react in such a way even after knowing what kala did!..OMG he has changed completely!..if i would have been there the i would have been a sherni..couldnt stand kala's face at all..dutta is truly a gentleman..loved the way he handled kala..insulted her badly without using any harsh words..the way he said KALA expressed that kala is actuallu KAALI...KAALI from the heart...

i doubt if he will react to all this boldly..i think he has become understanding 😊 yes of course he will be hurt but see he has to go through all this..is obligatory...and thats what i said that untill he doesnt suffer all this he will not know whom to trust and not to trust..

hey i also wanted to start a thread regarding dutta's behaviour in todays ei..but im running short of time! 😭 ..will try it over the weekend... 😕
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Nazia...🤗

So true......Mish day everyday 😊

Nazia......i'm soo glad you wrote........OMG the way you've analyzed the whole thing....amazing .....you're absolutely correct....dutta's love would grow with each n every difficulty he would face.....although he'll be hurt initially but thn he'll learn something from each n every experience and finally it would be good for him n nakku.....

"keeping secrets for GOOD is reasonable"

The above line is soo soo true nazia....dutta's surely going to realize this one day....afterall his love will only grow with every passing day.....i feel certain about it......somehow....😊

i loved your perspective Nazia......already dutta is in the changing mode, so yeah his viewpoints about certain things (which u mentioned) which are wrong would be solved.......😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Dutta to start with is very badly "Prejudiced" . We can account it to his life lessons. Cant blame him for some of it. But thats the character flaw . As Jagtaap said during the Jungle episode , life is teacher and we its pupils...........
Dutta always ends up taking the most negative of the lessons to heart and starts believing it. Thats the issue with the guy. For example Seema's betrayl taught Dutta that dont start falling for everyone, guage the person properly before u give in. But Dutta instead took it as "Never trust any one , no love whatsoever in the world" and eneded up forming a shell for 10 long yrs. He was totally wrong in that deduction.
Same goes with the Sups scenerio . Sups betrayed him for her love. Instead Dutta thought she hates the person in Dutta (which partially might be true, but what if she was never in love with Ravi? She wouldve obliged and got married to him I guess, anyways ) and no one(read Beautiful women) will ever come close to him. No thats not the case and he totally blinded himself from truth . Sups betrayed Dutta more so for her love than for her hatred towards him. She is blinded by her love and so she trashed Dutta's heart. He couldnt see Sups love in that case, all he saw was her betrayl. If he couldve seen why she rejected his love, he wouldve understood the beauty of love more and wouldve been more compassionate towards Sups-Mawali's love and Nakku's betrayl. (Cant believe I just said such good things abt Sups 🤣....... no wonder Time heals everything, it mellowed down my hatred towards them too 🤣 )
Now "Beauty is no good" wala phhilosphy is totally a wrong deduction on his part. He has his own sisters whom he adored till date and all seemed nice isnt it? Arent they beautiful? They are. Arent they loyal to their partners? They are, But Dutta will never think abt them when he is deducing abt beauty and betrayl isnt he?.
Thats the issue with the character. He takes the wrong examples and concludes something which is a big NO-NO.
Hope he learns the lesson of his life this time when it finally boils down to his childhood-friendship and his eternal love..........and their betrayl and love.
Anu
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: gp00

Hey Nazia,
Interesting topic.

You know it is so hard to say, because hiding stuff, as you mention, secrets, can be done for good or bad. The problem is that what is "good" or "bad" is determined by the person doing the keeping/not telling (e.g. Naku, Dutta, AS). That is their perception of good and bad. But they cannot speak for Dutta, and say something is good for bad for him. So that is the reason I am giving such a noncommittal answer.

Keeping the truth from someone is always tricky and it's a calculated risk. You hope they don't find out for their sake, but if they do, you better pray for your own sake.

At the end of the day, there are times when you want to keep something from someone...and there may be a very good reason for it: to keep away pain,not upset them, not make them question or hate themselves. But you shouldn't keep a secret with an expectation that the other person is going to understand or should understand.

How is that for gray?

I think all these things are just trials for Dutta, just like everyone else has trials. I think he will be open to understanding, he won't shut himself off again. In fact, I think he will understand Baji's and Naku's reasons.





great points gp..i agree...
@bold--thats what gp..he can no more shut himself..one day he will have to face it and will have to fight...he has always made wrong decisions in understanding ppl..let e seema, kala or sups and nakku is the only person whom he trusted and i think its only nakku's love that drew him closer to her...
actually he os a person who experiences things and makes his own laws.. 😛 😆 ...he was betrayed by pretty women so he thought pretty ppl are betrayers, another thing is that he wants everyone to be truthful , free and frank with him...he thinks that any person who keeps secrets or hides something from him is again a betrayer..but things are nt actually like that....

it actually very similar to what nakku said while the cliff hanging thingy..she said that dutta is apni marzi ka malik....when he thinks some one has made a mistake then he has made a mistake...his word d the final word...what he thinks whould always be considered right..he said that nakku helped sups so she helped her...he is the bappa of this place..blah blah..

so after goin through all this dutta will realize that in this world there are a variety of ppl who are good and bad..no one can be judged acc to their color.. all ppl who hide things are not betrayers...and trusting ppl too much is also his weak point 😕 ...but after all this he will start differentiating between good and bad...he will become more understanding and will handle things in a better way isnt it??...his mind will become more flexible...

his past experiences have forced him to have these misconceptions and again these experiences will again remove the misconceptions..he will get an answer to all his questions 😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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We have come a long way from the first few Tasha moments, haven't we? These days Dutta hates secrets and those that keep them from him, for obvious reasons, of course. 💔 I remember when Dutta asked Naku about why Morey was chasing her but realized she couldn't tell him the truth. He understood her and said that everyone has secrets they can't open up about. He said he has such secrets himself and if she didn't want to tell him about hers she didn't have to. Seems like he didn't think secrets were always a bad thing, right?

Hope that part of Dutta will take over when Naku shows him her face without the soot or kajal. 😛
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nik_ita

Nazia...🤗

So true......Mish day everyday 😊

Nazia......i'm soo glad you wrote........OMG the way you've analyzed the whole thing....amazing .....you're absolutely correct....dutta's love would grow with each n every difficulty he would face.....although he'll be hurt initially but thn he'll learn something from each n every experience and finally it would be good for him n nakku.....

"keeping secrets for GOOD is reasonable"

The above line is soo soo true nazia....dutta's surely going to realize this one day....afterall his love will only grow with every passing day.....i feel certain about it......somehow....😊

i loved your perspective Nazia......already dutta is in the changing mode, so yeah his viewpoints about certain things (which u mentioned) which are wrong would be solved.......😊



hi nikki 🤗
i know..i have posted a thread at night after a long time.. 😆 couldnt watch the epi yesterday but this clicked so just thought of sharing with u all 😆
i agree with u completely nikki..u said that dutta will learn from every experience..thats very true nikki..he is a person who creates a wall around himself everytime he gets betrayed and then created his own set of rules so that he never faces those betrayals again..he has never faced the worls..always physically strong but mentally very conserved and traps himself in a way...he must be more flexible with things..should start handling them rightly..should start facing problems without creating rigid set of rules.....and as far as i know he has already started taking things in the right way..i was utterly amazed at the way he reacted after he came to know abt kala's truth..i mean he looked shattered and lost and was out of words..but still didnt give up..he will still fight..his courage has not died...he is quite determined now...and has fullll bharosa on nakku...

im extremely proud of him! 🤗

hey nikki u said that the love will grow with every passing day...aww 😍 ..im waiting for those moments..whic have already started 😛 😆 ..im greedy! 😆 ...thanx nikki.. 🤗
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rose_Petal

We have come a long way from the first few Tasha moments, haven't we? These days Dutta hates secrets and those that keep them from him, for obvious reasons, of course.💔 I remember when Dutta asked Naku about why Morey was chasing her but realized she couldn't tell him the truth. He understood her and said that everyone has secrets they can't open up about. He said he has such secrets himself and if she didn't want to tell him about hers she didn't have to. Seems like he didn't think secrets were always a bad thing, right?

Hope that part of Dutta will take over when Naku shows him her face without the soot or kajal. 😛




hey actually the secret ur talking abt is different..then things were different..they were not even friends then...they just shared a malik, servant relationship with sympathy and humility 😊 ...but he always expects ppl close to his heart to share things with him..he expects the others to trust him enough to share their secrets..

but later they became friends and he felt nakku close enough so he shared his secret so its obvious for him that the other person should also feel comfortable to share his feelings with him...and now nakku loves him and he knows that..they were also married!..so things have changed completely! so will his expectations change... 😊

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