Abhi, you call this justice for Tanu?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Abhi says that according to his principles, he cannot break his promise to Tanu. He must marry her.
What principles exactly?

If he doesn't marry Tanu, her reputation will suffer in society. If he doesn't marry Tanu, her dying mother's happiness will be impacted.

OK: so marrying her saves her reputation and her mother's happiness.

But what are the full implications of marrying Tanu?

If he marries Tanu while his heart is full of Pragya, what kind of husband will he be? Distracted, neglectful, sullen, resentful, emotionally unavailable, constantly comparing her to someone she can never be. Where is the justice for Tanu in that?

If he marries Tanu as an obligation and a burden, what kind of a future will they have? What kind of a life will they build together?

Abhi is about to undertake a marriage he doesn't intend to participate in. That is not justice; that is cowardice. He respects that Tanu's dying mother deserves happiness - but he intends to deliver it through a lie.

What exactly is so principled about that?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Minzz...as long as HE'S doing the "principled" thing, it doesn't matter what the side effects or long term consequences are. His priority is doing what he thinks will be the right thing for himmm to do, not what the right thing is for any of the relationships that come into question with this decision.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Actually the more I think about it, if the decision is based on him marrying tanu so that its the rght thing he does, is the decision really selfless after all?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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LOL what Nainz? How can it be the right thing to do if it has wrong consequences?

And oye, don't get into the shady waters of whether altruism is a form of selfishness, there is no convincing answer to that 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Guys, I like this discussion. Now recovered😊, so jumping right in.
A promise is a promise is a promise, forever?😲

I don't think so. I have had to deal with a few people in my family who are hell bent on fulfilling promises based on the premise of stupidity, much like what Abhi is doing. I get very irritated when I hear this argument, I already promised, so I have to do xyz..., without thinking about the consequences. Here, they are not thinking about anything else, not the consequences, not how it affects people or situations, they are of the single minded notion " person X will not go back on their word" . Abject stupidity is what it is😡

Here is a simple example we can look at. Let us say, I told my 7 year old that I would bring her a chocolate bar and a puppy at two different times and on two entirely different occasions. Do these both carry the same weight? About the time we would go look for that puppy, let's say we got a great professional opportunity and have to move half way across the world. Then what do I do? From my child's standpoint, I "promised" her a chocolate bar and a puppy. No problem with the chocolate bar. . Should I fulfill the "promise" of a puppy? If I didn't take stock of the new and changed situation we are in, would I be a bad mother, an " unprincipled" one, one who doesn't have ideals and go back on my words? Or should I be shaking in my shoes that my child is going to be scarred for life, will not have self esteem, loses all confidence in her mom? Or should I be taking a more balanced approach with my daughter explaining how life doesn't come with guarantees in anything and sometimes we have to change course based on situations and it is very important not to stress a puppy with a move, uncertain circumstances and environment, and in turn hurt the puppy? I would do the latter, and will avoid stressing an innocent life. My child will be disappointed for a bit, but is it not my responsibility to do the right thing by everybody ( puppy and my child ) and not blindly following on my promise or looking out just for the happiness of my child?

Unfortunately, people get into this circular argument. Sadly, there is no recourse to this kind of an argument. What do you say to a person who says " my principles and my word are important than anything else, my people, my love, my life, your life or consequences " So Pragya really has nothing left to do. So I am happy with her being silent. There is nothing more to fight for, when the object of her affection, love of her life doesn't want to be with her 😭 But I just couldn't bear to see her face today, tear stained, drained and looked like somebody who is totally defeated and deeply hurt. Years of uncertainty with regards to her position in his life has finally taken its toll on her😲. I don't know how Sriti is made to look like that or what she has done to herself, she was brilliant

But for the sake of argument, I want to ask what if Abhi is told he is married or that the witch is a witch, then what happens to his promise? Will the promise then be null and void or will he still say " I promised her, cards printed, I am principled, I know the truth that I am married or the witch is a witch, but can't sacrifice my usool". Because if a promise is a promise is a promise no matter what... Where is the end to this argument? I don't know when he suddenly became somebody whose life's mission is fulfilling his wadas😕

Anyway, I hope I haven't confused you guys. Sorry if the lecture became too long, just my opinion😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I get reminded of Abhi's dialogues from the rooftop confession where he questioned whether love is not important. I don't understand him 'not' wanting to breaking promises though I get his point. He promised Pragya too in the form of friendship pheras. Maybe promises given in front of public hold more value than promises given to a person in private. Abhi marrying Tanu to save her image is as brilliant as Pragya wanting proofs to prove that she is not pregnant. Celeb world has live in relationships and break ups. Saving Tanu's image by not cancelling wedding is 👎🏼 But yeah Abhi has ML and he doesn't know Tanu was his gf even after he was married and media wasn't behind Tanu 24/7 shaming her for being clingy to a married man.
Anyway if one marries a girl thinking they are doing a favour to the girl, it won't be a happy equal equal relationship.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Abhi is only thinking about Tanu's status and her mother's illness.. bas he is not thinking more than that. He is not thinking that cka is in last stage of cancer. She'll die really soon. Maan lo ho gayi Tanu and Abhi ki shaadi. This usulo.ka pakka.. he must be proud he fulfilled his promise to a dying mother (he should be right, will he be proud?) Now what? Imagine the mother died, bas khatm.. this was the reason you were marrying Tanu. Now what are you going to do in this life of yours. Think about Pragya, drink and cry!! You are not going to forget Pragya so easily buddy.. you'll need one more memory loss for that.
So Abhi's life will be boring and dull without Pragz. Right now it's a mess but still he was happy with Pragz. with only Tanu.. bhagwan bhi nahi bacha payenge!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Abhi promised to marry tanu and even made pragya agree to it with out her knowledge to tanu parents during lohri episode. But he forgot about that promise when he wanted to confess to pragya.
Then tanu pregnancy happened and pragya tried to leave the house by creating bad image but abhi said she can't be pregnant. He challenged tanu for pregnancy test and pragya did not force anything on him. She just didn't want him hurt tanu on her condition, which I totaly support. Once he got to know tanu is pregnant he never showed as doubting tanu. He should have married her that time itself, I mean he always keeps his promise right. But instead he falsely announced pagya is pregnant and wanted pragya to play along. I don't know where the straight forward guy went during that time. When dadi found out he never revealed the full truth about abhigya marriage also he lied about tanus parents when they came to rabul sangeet to talk about tabhi wedding, isn't this injustice to so many people involved.
When dadi send him out and pragya wanted to leave with him, he asked her to take care of dadi. For me even before pragya asked him to marry tanu abhi has promised tanu and her parents about their marriage. He uses promise according to his convinience.
Remember he wanted mogambo to stop tabhi wedding, wasn't that injustice to tanu and his child.
I agree completely with what purab said to abhi today. He is not doing justice to anyone here, how will a dying mother react if she knows her SIL loves another girl. If he want to do justice means he should tell tanu and her parents about his love for pragya. Isn't he hidding important truth here 😕
Sorry I wrote about the whole show here mina. I feel he never did justice to anyone, he only make half hearted attempts.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Another thing about his justice is when he saw that media published about his misbehavior to tanu he conducted a press meet anouncing their relationship. How will a man misbehaving with a girl will spoil the girls image. Did he did the press meet to do justice for tanu or he wanted to save his image. He bashed media about writing false thing but according to his knowledge what was published was true na. I don't see any justice here.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Abhi's decided to marry Tanu for a range of reasons.
Tanu's mom's health issue was one of reasons.
Abhi n Pragya have confessed their love.
But seeing that Abhi has planned to go ahead with his wedding with Tanu ,it makes me believe that he is doing it because he wants to.
Tanu's mom's illness is a flimsy reason.
It's like his sermon with Tanu's mom has made him decide to take this path.
After watching the last few episodes ,from Pragya's POV,it was like Abhi wanted a love confession from Pragya ,purely for his mental satisfaction.
From abhi's POV ,Abhi does not find anything wrong in marrying this angel called Tanu.Infact the latest attempt to tarnish her image(those pregnancy reports)had tilted the scales in tanu's favour ,giving her a chr certificate.
It had been the team's own doing.
Yes.Abhi does appear heartless.
But Pragya entered this field with full knowledge of abhi's impending marriage to Tanu.
Pragya will appear like tissue paper to him.
According to me,if Purab had not interfered with abhi's thought process regarding Pragya as a candidate for love,PRAGYA's life would have been better.She would not have been hurt.
Pragya was happy just to BE with Abhi.
Purab filled her mind with false hopes.
Abhi had stuck to his words.
Nothing changed inbeteeen.

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