Is MS a toy ? Is Abhi a kid or Drunken?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I find the nose button scene as much as cute .. It was all because Tisha .. Some thing that really upset me is using MS as trial stuff and Abhi trying it on his secretary inspite of her NO..
The MS trail scene is regressive to the core ..For many people still MS is very sacred thing .. I am surprised they could use this like trial stuff..What are they trying to show with the name of being Boss and Secretary is absolutely not acceptable .. . Yes on the bigger picture he is her husband and have right to do that .. But as current scenario he is just a Boss and a friend , he does not have understanding of any relation with which he can put MS in her neck . It is as good as example of any sexual harassment scenario at work place

Who would try Mangal Sutra on other gal when she refused holding your hand saying "Man You can't do this" . I would say No man in senses do that ..
Is he a kid to think it is ok to try on a gal ? , I am sure he is 30+ ..uff .. Is he drunken to ignore her NO ..Is that hard to understand a NO means a NO ..

The super flirty boss with out meaning the actions what he does to her is just not acceptable at any work place. Being unreasonably touchy is a mere crime..
He is definitely going to pathetic extremes even as a friend . I won't approve a friend who does not consider another one's feelings ..who do a trial proposal with out announcing it , And an apology after that did not change any thing and her ultimatum to not to repeat it ever did not have any value. He again did the same trial stuff ..

to start with
She refused to be his secratary .. No is never considered
She refused work for Tanu marriage related stuff .. No is never considered
She refused to come to shopping .. No is never considered
She refused to wear the MS .. No is never considered

Sab jagah apni manmaani and using trumpcards boss and friend according to the need is so wrong at many levels ..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thx for the post Raji! I was very disturbed by the scene as well. But then I remembered that the show is written for an audience who already knows that they are husband and wife. That is what makes it okay to show such a scene. Unfortunately they are not considering that they are also showing an offensive portrayal of the boss-secretary dynamic. It is irresponsible storytelling. But when have they ever been responsible? 😔
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thanks also for the list of all the times she said no and he ignored her. We are also getting very wrong messages about consent.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Raji, big hug for saying this.
I just posted this elsewhere. I too was horrified as I watched this scene today.

This is what I felt about this. From Pragya's end it is understandable if she let him tie the MS in her neck as in her mind, she is not merely a secretary, but is the lawfully wedded wife and so she didn't vehemently object to it. She let bhagya take its course, perfectly reasonable thinking.

But as far as Abhi is concerned, he is still intent on marrying the YKW, and Pragya is merely his friend, secretary, household help😡 and what ever else, but not his romantic interest or his would be life partner. So what makes it right from his end to try out an MS on her, wiping her mouth, being touchy -feely, making the hook tight with his teeth, sharing a cup of coffee with her? All very nice and good, if he knows about their relationship.

Think Abhi, which secretary would tolerate this kind of behavior from her boss when she knows that he is about to marry somebody else, even if the boss is the great RS himself😡? Think, why you are unable to stop yourself from behaving this way with your secretary or whatever else you want to call her while you are going through your absurd rituals for your dastardly wedding🤢😭

BTW, I don't understand what "image" he is trying to save by marrying the YKW. She and him made a public spectacle of himself today😡 So what if now the media were to publish a picture of him tying the MS to his secretary publicly while he is about to get married to the YKW, would he think that this would tarnish the reputation of his secretary and himself or will this not count at all? Do only Rockstars and non-supermodels have reputations that need to be saved and not secretaries? 😡

I don't know what the writers and directors are trying to show here, absolutely pathetic if they think that audience will be happy watching such scenes where he " balances" his relationship with both women😡😡 Pretty face for a life partner to save his " image" and forgotten wife as secretary, friend, advisor, house hold help and what not😡 Despicable. ☢️
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I once commented about Abhi's boss-employee / good friend relationship with Nikitha that he boasts a lot from his POV few weeks back. Writers still continue to make a mockery of the same. Not sure how urban audience in India can take such scenes being shown in the name of pure friendship or a professional relationship. Good to see a post on this subject.


30+ years self made Rockstar boss publicly flirting, being all touchy and romancing (without understanding he is romancing?) his female secretary actually seems disgusting and he always uses this phrase to silence Nikitha when ever she objects or has something valid to say 'who is the boss and boss is always right'. Now that he found about nose button and her remote so I'm sure he will use it more elaborately to have his say on Nikitha.

For family and viewers he may be Pragya's husband but from Abhi's POV and as per current story line from mid Sep onward she is Nikitha, his staff who is unmarried girl from conservative family. He is a caring, concerned and a sweet boss some times. But even in some earlier episodes Abhi was shown crossing his limits of decency as a boss in his home, home parties and in public places with Nikitha. Don't understand why KKB writers/CVs/directors are still not realizing that they are insulting a boss-employee dignified relationship with such repeated scenes. Cleaning a girls lips with fingers in the name of wiping lassi or coffee publicly by a male boss; tying a dori or mangalsutra with mouth is definitely in bad taste when seen in an Indian environment. This kind of boss who invades your private space and seems wanting to have control on your life beyond job commitments is not many unmarried girls in India would want to aspire from their bosses.


While KKB team may assume that some Abhigya fans may like such random scenes / lollipops since they are mighty pissed and frustrated with ML track for several weeks and want to see Abhi-Pragya closer but if you view them as Abhi-Nikitha from a boss-employee relationship such scenes lack decency as per situations that they are being show. It also unfortunately reflects Abhi's character in poor light which they don't seem to realize. Yes sometimes he does think why he gets drawn towards Nikitha and why is he dependent on her owing to past he has forgotten, but in the name of I'm the boss I pay your salary he can't control a staff's entire existence beyond her job profile and timings even if he wants her to operate from his home and not office. It was awful to watch mangalsutra tying scene even in promo and much more in actual episode.


He proposed Tanu and announced in media to save his market image, has been entertaining Tanu to be all touchy with him from several episodes without strongly objecting her advances, agreed for marriage because of Tanu's mom's illness and started wedding functions, allowed Tanu to stay in MM before marriage without seeking his families approval and in parallel keeps being touchy and flirty with his secretary most of the times forgetting that she is a girl.. And more than that he mostly ignores Nikitha said several times she dislikes Tanu and don't want to do any work related to her wedding preparations and he also witnessed Tanu insulting her few times. Can't he be shown to be little sensitive to feelings of his friend cum well wisher cum secretary cum advisor cum servant?


What amuses is Abhi is no longer shown confused or thinking if marrying Tanu is a wrong decision or right by the writers? Even after noticing from last few episodes Tanu's high handedness, boasted attitude, rude behavior, top pitched talks, lack of decency in dealing with others, narrow minded thoughts & money mindedness, he simply ignores what ever he notices about Tanu?? Even the seed of doubt that Purab raised in his mind that Aliya & Tanu may be behind the doctor in fake pregnancy drama against Nikitha seem to have gone in vain. While at one end he seems now happy with his wedding preparation and knows Tanu hates Pragya he still allowed Tanu to take another chance to insult Nikitha publicly in a jewellery shop by tying Tanu's so called Mangalsutra on his secretary, where did his wisdom or common sense vanish? Why does he allow his friend to get insulted by Tanu like that?


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -mina-

Thx for the post Raji! I was very disturbed by the scene as well. But then I remembered that the show is written for an audience who already knows that they are husband and wife. That is what makes it okay to show such a scene. Unfortunately they are not considering that they are also showing an offensive portrayal of the boss-secretary dynamic. It is irresponsible storytelling. But when have they ever been responsible? 😔



Aww Mina .. Agree ..whole boss- secretary dynamic is being portrayed in the worst manner and has been disturbing .. It will be until he realises what he is doing .. usually that is very late ...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -mina-

Thanks also for the list of all the times she said no and he ignored her. We are also getting very wrong messages about consent.


Yes He is being too bossy when she says NO and All 'NO's are discarded so far.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mili9

Raji, big hug for saying this.

I just posted this elsewhere. I too was horrified as I watched this scene today.

This is what I felt about this. From Pragya's end it is understandable if she let him tie the MS in her neck as in her mind, she is not merely a secretary, but is the lawfully wedded wife and so she didn't vehemently object to it. She let bhagya take its course, perfectly reasonable thinking.

But as far as Abhi is concerned, he is still intent on marrying the YKW, and Pragya is merely his friend, secretary, household help😡 and what ever else, but not his romantic interest or his would be life partner. So what makes it right from his end to try out an MS on her, wiping her mouth, being touchy -feely, making the hook tight with his teeth, sharing a cup of coffee with her? All very nice and good, if he knows about their relationship.

Think Abhi, which secretary would tolerate this kind of behavior from her boss when she knows that he is about to marry somebody else, even if the boss is the great RS himself😡? Think, why you are unable to stop yourself from behaving this way with your secretary or whatever else you want to call her while you are going through your absurd rituals for your dastardly wedding🤢😭

BTW, I don't understand what "image" he is trying to save by marrying the YKW. She and him made a public spectacle of himself today😡 So what if now the media were to publish a picture of him tying the MS to his secretary publicly while he is about to get married to the YKW, would he think that this would tarnish the reputation of his secretary and himself or will this not count at all? Do only Rockstars and non-supermodels have reputations that need to be saved and not secretaries? 😡

I don't know what the writers and directors are trying to show here, absolutely pathetic if they think that audience will be happy watching such scenes where he " balances" his relationship with both women😡😡 Pretty face for a life partner to save his " image" and forgotten wife as secretary, friend, advisor, house hold help and what not😡 Despicable. ☢️


Hugs back mili .. Feeling are mutual ..


Yes Pragya is in very much in senses and have understanding of her wife status . She is meaning her actions in every possible way .. Her intentions are clear ..She means it when accepts his demands .. But he is just flipping card from friend to boss to friend to discard the intentions .. He does not mean it when propose her .He does not mean to romantically inclined to her but being all touchy in both private and public spaces .. I think as Mina said Writers purely wrote the scene thinking the audience are already treating them as husband and wife .. But then writers never gives a break from Tabhi ... ufff
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Posted: 8 years ago
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MS is definitely not a toy. I did not expect a show that values kumkum will show or talk about ms like this. Overall, in every way that scene offended me.
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Originally posted by: LA2725

I once commented about Abhi's boss-employee / good friend relationship with Nikitha that he boasts a lot from his POV few weeks back. Writers still continue to make a mockery of the same. Not sure how urban audience in India can take such scenes being shown in the name of pure friendship or a professional relationship. Good to see a post on this subject.


30+ years self made Rockstar boss publicly flirting, being all touchy and romancing (without understanding he is romancing?) his female secretary actually seems disgusting and he always uses this phrase to silence Nikitha when ever she objects or has something valid to say 'who is the boss and boss is always right'. Now that he found about nose button and her remote so I'm sure he will use it more elaborately to have his say on Nikitha.

For family and viewers he may be Pragya's husband but from Abhi's POV and as per current story line from mid Sep onward she is Nikitha, his staff who is unmarried girl from conservative family. He is a caring, concerned and a sweet boss some times. But even in some earlier episodes Abhi was shown crossing his limits of decency as a boss in his home, home parties and in public places with Nikitha. Don't understand why KKB writers/CVs/directors are still not realizing that they are insulting a boss-employee dignified relationship with such repeated scenes. Cleaning a girls lips with fingers in the name of wiping lassi or coffee publicly by a male boss; tying a dori or mangalsutra with mouth is definitely in bad taste when seen in an Indian environment. This kind of boss who invades your private space and seems wanting to have control on your life beyond job commitments is not many unmarried girls in India would want to aspire from their bosses.


While KKB team may assume that some Abhigya fans may like such random scenes / lollipops since they are mighty pissed and frustrated with ML track for several weeks and want to see Abhi-Pragya closer but if you view them as Abhi-Nikitha from a boss-employee relationship such scenes lack decency as per situations that they are being show. It also unfortunately reflects Abhi's character in poor light which they don't seem to realize. Yes sometimes he does think why he gets drawn towards Nikitha and why is he dependent on her owing to past he has forgotten, but in the name of I'm the boss I pay your salary he can't control a staff's entire existence beyond her job profile and timings even if he wants her to operate from his home and not office. It was awful to watch mangalsutra tying scene even in promo and much more in actual episode.


He proposed Tanu and announced in media to save his market image, has been entertaining Tanu to be all touchy with him from several episodes without strongly objecting her advances, agreed for marriage because of Tanu's mom's illness and started wedding functions, allowed Tanu to stay in MM before marriage without seeking his families approval and in parallel keeps being touchy and flirty with his secretary most of the times forgetting that she is a girl.. And more than that he mostly ignores Nikitha said several times she dislikes Tanu and don't want to do any work related to her wedding preparations and he also witnessed Tanu insulting her few times. Can't he be shown to be little sensitive to feelings of his friend cum well wisher cum secretary cum advisor cum servant?


What amuses is Abhi is no longer shown confused or thinking if marrying Tanu is a wrong decision or right by the writers? Even after noticing from last few episodes Tanu's high handedness, boasted attitude, rude behavior, top pitched talks, lack of decency in dealing with others, narrow minded thoughts & money mindedness, he simply ignores what ever he notices about Tanu?? Even the seed of doubt that Purab raised in his mind that Aliya & Tanu may be behind the doctor in fake pregnancy drama against Nikitha seem to have gone in vain. While at one end he seems now happy with his wedding preparation and knows Tanu hates Pragya he still allowed Tanu to take another chance to insult Nikitha publicly in a jewellery shop by tying Tanu's so called Mangalsutra on his secretary, where did his wisdom or common sense vanish? Why does he allow his friend to get insulted by Tanu like that?



Awww ... First let me take a minute to appreciate your thoughts and the way you put it .. I must say the thoughts are greatly put together .. You summarised so beautifully 👏 ..


@bold - Thanks to you and to all who took time to read and comment on it .. I was little apprehensive about posting because the scene was extremely cute on the surface .. It is definitely reassuring ..

And I don't find sense in what he is doing from his POV too .. Lets analyse Abhi's pov on his doings .. Lets say Aliyah has a boss with whom she is romantically inclined but did not express and the boss is doing same as Abhi ..Taking her every where except rest room and insists to tail her every where .. Proposed her holding her face and took it back saying he practiced on her .. And he is all touchy in public places , sharing coffee , lassi .. pulling her dupatta to clean his mouth and wiping her lips with bear fingers ..Grab her to his room to choose clothes to for shopping .. And he even tied MS around her neck just to see if it good on his fianc .. And he declares to the world that he is going to another gal not Aliyah .. Would Abhi ever be OK with it ??? Would he boost the boss for being great friend ??

I bet Abhi would beat him into batter and file a case to take advantage of his sister ..

So I really don't understand what writers telling with this boss-employeee stuff ... wrong notions all over .. Ufff

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