Emotional Surrogacy or Nidhi's Insecurities? - Page 2

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sorry guys my lappy is a prob or this site i do not know. Apart from Like button, I am not able to open and type responses also ...

@Sujatha, your real life experience says that all. You are absolutely right...I have a 5 year old kid and some times, I take care of his friends also when I go into their class or any other meet etc... Its all typical motherly love or instinct. The same goes for fathers also...
Ashutosh is normally soft towards kids - as per the character . So when he get to know that Mallika is pregnant and he has seen her as a helpless woman who has a life threat from jagan, that gave him motivation to forget her wrong deeds and help her.
To this our KP Ji is adding all this emotional circles... I am in doubt if it was his initial intention or later he sprang into this idea after reading some suggestions on his wall...
Actually he wanted to create a MU, that Nidhi is understanding Ashu wrong. Nidhi is thinking that Ashu is trying to satisfy his paternal needs in a surrogate way but that is not truth. That should be the reason of MU. Instead if he justifies that what Nidhi is thinking is right and indeed Ashu is subconsciously doing it then its not MU but its raising voice against an exploitation.
What ever it is, this show is giving us lots of scope to analyze.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ApoorvaFan

Sorry guys my lappy is a prob or this site i do not know. Apart from Like button, I am not able to open and type responses also ...

@Sujatha, your real life experience says that all. You are absolutely right...I have a 5 year old kid and some times, I take care of his friends also when I go into their class or any other meet etc... Its all typical motherly love or instinct. The same goes for fathers also...
Ashutosh is normally soft towards kids - as per the character . So when he get to know that Mallika is pregnant and he has seen her as a helpless woman who has a life threat from jagan, that gave him motivation to forget her wrong deeds and help her.
To this our KP Ji is adding all this emotional circles... I am in doubt if it was his initial intention or later he sprang into this idea after reading some suggestions on his wall...
Actually he wanted to create a MU, that Nidhi is understanding Ashu wrong. Nidhi is thinking that Ashu is trying to satisfy his paternal needs in a surrogate way but that is not truth. That should be the reason of MU. Instead if he justifies that what Nidhi is thinking is right and indeed Ashu is subconsciously doing it then its not MU but its raising voice against an exploitation.
What ever it is, this show is giving us lots of scope to analyze.




I completely endorse what you have said...

Maybe the idea is to make them both appear wrong...😆...it confounds me...!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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AF .. thats the issue with the writing n direction since time immemorial.. the makers just turn n twist the character as per convenience to show a track.. but dun think that this way they r not able to connect the viewers to their characters..

Agree with u that Nidhi was never this serious about her career.. infact as u rightly mentioned she din even follow thru her promise to her father to focus on it during his sickness..! However.. i m still relieved that she is focusing on career.. but what they missed big time is .. making Ashu voice out his acceptance n support to her for the 2 year settlement.. ! At the moment the majority audience got turned off as Nidhi has unanimously chosen to focus on her career n Ashus sadness seems to bear no consequence to her!

Regards Mallu .. i think .. what Ashu has done is correct from humanitarian angle.. but he has gotten over involved like that market scene .. of him dropping Mallu was just not needed..! All this sends confusing message to the viewers n more so to Nidhi..! Again her conclusion of the whole helping Mallu coz of wanting to b a dad is also not correct in my view..!

In short.. the major failing of this show.. is the writers inability to get the characters connected to the audience..! As an audience i dunno what to expect of Ashu or Nidhi with each new track..! Only person consistent is Mallu and her clear focus on Ashu n DB n her clear focus on Nidhi..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Mudra, I agree with your points. Like Tanu mentioned just now, we normal viewers are surprised at athe sudden changes in the basic character behaviours...
You have voiced it through your ET and I tried with these kind of long posts😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Mudra, you are so true when you told, the writer is making spoofs of his characters. I remembered how the spoof I made on hair dye appeared in the show :)
This is the reason, this show lacks consistency. There is a thin like between consistency and being predictable and to be unpredictable, KPJi, always drains the consistency of the characters.
There is another show of RS, running for more than 700 or 800 episodes. If you follow that show for a week, you can clearly tell how each character reacts for a certain situation. So consistent or so predictable I don't know😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Nice post apoorvaFan!!!
As a normal viewer, I dont consider myself intellectual enough to comprehend KPji's thought process. I am not his FB fan/friend, I get to hear about his thoughts on forum only. I started watching the show only 1 month back. Although, I loved the concept, I felt there are many loose ends in it and to have better understanding of story, I joined forum 3 weeks back only.
The whole current MU track is scum for me and I dont see any valid reason for AshNi separation. To me, its a forceful one for TRP hike. KPji has developed a totally non-convincing rift and made a mess of mountain out of a molehill. He has been conscientiously avoiding the heart-to-heart talk between 2 leads because if they had talked over the things that are bothering them, the matter would not have arisen at all or could hv been cleared in a jiffy, dunno why dragging so long?? I hv been still seeking convincing reasons in forum posts to attribute to their separation.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Alka, I agree with you that Nidhi is right in getting this kind of worries. She has gone through too much because of Mallika. but unfortunately the way the situations are depicted, most of the common viewers are giving benefit of doubt to Ashu.
This is because of a 360 degree change in Nidhi towards her job/career. She was free, easy going and never has taken her career seriously. Though we all in the forum wanted her to be a career woman, the timing KP Ji has chosen to give that went wrong because immediately he put this paternal desires of Ashu...
The ladies I spoke to were telling these many days she never cared about career but only when Ashu wants a family she is going after her career...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ttrocks, Thank you for liking this post.
ya.. MUs, separations and coming back together are typical tellyworld formulas to stretch the show and they add their logistical reasons like leads not available etc also into these kind of tracks...
What surprises me is, instead of humbly accepting like some other CVs that becuase of certain XYZ reasons, he is building these tracks, the writer here is making the dumplings of words and trying to give high end heavy intellectual prespectives...
As you rightly pointed the foundation for this rift is not strong enough that is why this track is as a weak track.
He is adding Amar ka tadka and he do not know what he wants to do with this character... Great...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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As a normal viewer, I have never understood Ashu's character either as Dr. A or as Mr. A. Honestly, Sujatha Raoji's analysis is the base(as well as building 😃) for me to get convinced with Ashu's behavior. And even after having been given all data of his complex psyche, I cant understand, why cant he embrace happiness now, why live in the haunted past and spoil today's happiness, why keep cribbing over things when he has got everything at its best?

As a normal viewer, the whole concept of Ashu-Mallu friendship is the biggest blunder for me. Mallika's sins are "F'ship ke naam per kala dhabba" when I look at it as a normal viewer. Forum posts hv helped me redefine the normal notions of "F'ship' that I had been holding tlll then.

Nidhi was never serious about her Daktari. Suddenly unko pata nahi, kaisa keeda kat gaya, tabse she is having only 1 agenda: Main kaam karna chahti hoon, achchi dr. banna chahti hoon. As a normal viewer, I couldnt think much about this evolution except her need to be financially self-sufficient and career-wise independent.

The whole idea of Ashu's paternal instincts - suddenly arisen is rendering me flummoxed. One fine day, on Rangie's wedding, Ashu's fatherhood desire, all of a sudden got kindled 😲 Before marriage, didnt he realize that baby issue will be there after marriage, given their age-gap. He is planning ahead, thinking for future kinda person, so, how come he forget such an imp. issue? If I had not been on forum, I never would hv known his need to hv his own family given his orphanhood. His own flesh & blood legacy thought would never hv crept in my mind. I would hv thought it to be related to his advancing age only.

The icing on the cake like confusion: as a normal viewer, I can never ever tolerate Ashu supporting mallu, preggy or not -- not just even for a second. Since, directly he couldnt agree his wife for baby, so, he has found other ways... soothing his fathrhood pangs with Mallu's child under the name of insaniyat... ridiculous and disgusting. 😡 If I had not been on forum, I could never hv understood that given Ashu's complex, layered personality, its not wrong for him to practice "pretend fatherhood" 😡

When I heard mallu saying to Maxi about Ashu "I like him too". As a normal viewer, I cannot believe that Mallu has changed and now she isnt obsessed with Ashu. Forum mein padha, KPji ka announcement about Mallu "hriday-parivartan", tab jake pata chala... 😲

In the current MU track, as a normal viewer , frankly understood nothing. Forum made me understand the grave reasons.

Now, few things for which answers aren't yet revealed on our forum. So, I am left with no choice but to remain a normal viewer: 😃
1> As a normal viewer, I do not understand that when Mallika is a qualified doctor, then why cant she be self-supporting? 35 yr.s isnt that big an age for preg. woman, that with the help of a maid, she cant work. If she can go to market in rickshaw, why cant to a workplace?
2> When she herself knows about her condition and is a doctor herself, then why doesnt she heed another doc--her OB/GYN? Why she doesnt rest properly and eat healthy and do good karma? Moreover, why cant she keep Maxi by her side, when she has to get up? That way, she could have survived her falling on the bare floor.
3> Here in US, I see many women bearing child as long as they dont come to their menopause, some women, get child even after that with HRT. At, 35 yr.s many women have their 1st or 3rd or 4th kid and they deliver a healthy baby with healthy preg. span. Also, my knowledge states, late preg. is more vulnerable in later stages - mostly with preg. induced diabetes and all that. Then, I really cant understand why Mallu's preg. is hyped as late-age @35 and complicated one? That too in its initial stage?
4> When in prev. Mallutrack, Ashu slapped Mallu and asked to leave from there forever, he and BB had arranged for her job as a resident dr. at a hospital in Lucknow . means, she had her job+resi. quarter both. But, upon revelation of her preg., it also got revealed that Mallu had left that job just within 4 days. Why? Didnt she need money & safe abode?
5> When fallen on floor, Mallu bade Maxi to call the hospital. But, Maxi called Ashu instead. Why?

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