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Should a man trust his wife even if visual evidence indicates to the contrary? Is visual proof tenable evidence? Should the accused be pronounced guilty without being given an opportunity for defence?

These are some of the questions that yesterday's episode brought up. At the core of all of this is the concept of atoot vishwaas or absolute trust! It is generally believed that this is the basis for any relationship and, more importantly, a marriage. Without this, any relationship is likely to flounder. Where does this trust come from? In my opinion, it comes as much from faith in yourself as it does from faith in the other person. When you fall in love, the first thing you trust is your emotions, your judgment and your instincts. You do not look for tenable proof that your judgment is right. You go with blind faith. Only time tells you whether your faith was justified at all.

In Ashutosh's case, he had two things to go by on the basis of which he pronounced Nidhi guilty. Indications are that he did not believe that Nidhi intented to harm Mallika grievously but rather wanted to warn her off. I say this based on his statement that little kids should not play with knives and that Nidhi needed to be taught a lesson. So clearly, he thought Nidhi was impulsive enough to do something as drastic as that because of her youth and immaturity. Secondly, he also told Nidhi that her earlier words indicated that she would not tolerate the presence of a third person in their lives.

I suppose each and every word a person says cannot be taken at face value. The context, the body language etc are huge indicators with regard to this. Even while Nidhi said she was ready to kill, her body language was indeed playful and her tone jovial. So, it makes no sense that somebody would take her words so seriously that they would actually believe her capable of murder or causing injury to a fellow being, simply on being confronted with possible visual evidence. There is such a thing as circumstantial evidence but I understand that, in a fit of anger, your mind does not work right! However, Ashutosh decided to put two and two together and come up with 22. He did not for a moment think that the person accusing Nidhi was mentally unstable and had, only a couple of days ago, told him she was not in control of her actions. ( the tablets issue)

All of this is fine except in terms of the concept of atoot vishwaas. I don't know about men but women, in general, do not admit to a failed relationship or a failure in judgment so soon. Intrinsically, they don't want to give up on relationships or be dubbed a failure so very soon. Maybe it is different with men or maybe Ashutosh is an exception.

When Ashutosh believed in circumstantial evidence and let Nidhi go yesterday, I thought he broke this code of marriage - the absolute trust code or at least the give the girl a chance code. In doing so, more than letting Nidhi down, he had let his own judgment down. In essence, he let himself down! A hotheaded teenager's impulsive actions are understandable but you expect greater maturity from a middle aged surgeon!

From all of this, a simple question rises. If Ashutosh believed that Nidhi's rash behaviour, her impulsiveness etc stem from her youth and immaturity, what would he blame his own lack of judgment on?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think now he will regret y he married such impulsive and childish girl..

all the material evidence.. even clues thrown on face value and situations thy r in.. go against Ashu's logic of accusing Nidhi of impulsivity, immaturity and childishness.. punish her so harshly for something she wasnt even given chance to defend!
in short thrs no value of Nidhi's self respect or words or actions in Ashu's eyes.. she is a child for him and will remain so.. and he believes she can do anything under the sun!
someone needs to question Ashu severly for his own stance towards Nidhi and Mallu.. thn and thn only i can start showing some faith in his disgusting attitude and logic!
As much as i want Nidhi to teach Ashu lesson v know Nidhi is too forgiving to do such a thing.. her luv is blind.. and thts the saddest thing of her life!
and u r rite.. a woman never wants to say quit.. even if it disrepects her.. i dont know may b its an inherent nature of females or some genes tht dont let thm do tht.. thy cling on.. keep hoping .. and never give up.. i have seen in real life with this 3rd woman angle.. however unfaithful her husband mite b.. the woman believes in giving 2nd chance for sake of many things.. wat can v expect of woman in india wen even the thn lady Hillary Clinton 1st lady of such a forward nation cudnt do.. she learns to get selfish and move on.. i dont know whether its positive trait or negative.. the thing is thy cling to wat makes thm happy.. and thy r satisfied with tht.. Nidhi wud do jst tht! I have seen woman living graciously even with a ruthlessly battered self-ego! One is my most closest of relative.. such a strong woman.. all for sake of her family and children!😭.. thrs no dbt she cannot luv another man.. her luv is so holy.. even if its not reciprocated and respected.. I believe women r most selfless being among human being! Thr greatness can never b matched by their male counterparts!
For Ashu the character tht we knew .. mallu's revealation shud break him down completely.. his mistrust on Nidhi.. his unfairness towards Nidhi shud haunt him for the rest of his life.. make him repent and regret beyond any measure..
bt i dont know wats in KPji mind.. he is on character butchering spree! and obviously AshuNidhi seperation will not bring TRPs.. hence he is going to butcher the story as well!
No hopes on this serial anymore!
Edited by achiever - 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: achiever

I think now he will regret y he married such impulsive and childish girl..

all the material evidence.. even clues thrown on face value and situations thy r in.. go against Ashu's logic of accusing Nidhi of impulsivity, immaturity and childishness.. punish her so harshly for something she wasnt even given chance to defend!
in short thrs no value of Nidhi's self respect or words or actions in Ashu's eyes.. she is a child for him and will remain so.. and he believes she can do anything under the sun!
someone needs to question Ashu severly for his own stance towards Nidhi and Mallu.. thn and thn only i can start showing some faith in his disgusting attitude and logic!
As much as i want Nidhi to teach Ashu lesson v know Nidhi is too forgiving to do such a thing.. her luv is blind.. and thts the saddest thing of her life!
and u r rite.. a woman never wants to say quit.. even if it disrepects her.. i dont know may b its an inherent nature of females or some genes tht dont let thm do tht.. thy cling on.. keep hoping .. and never give up.. i have seen in real life with this 3rd woman angle.. however unfaithful her husband mite b.. the woman believes in giving 2nd chance for sake of many things.. wat can v expect of woman in india wen even the thn lady Hillary Clinton 1st lady of such a forward nation cudnt do.. she learns to get selfish and move on.. i dont know whether its positive trait or negative.. the thing is thy cling to wat makes thm happy.. and thy r satisfied with tht.. Nidhi wud do jst tht! I have seen woman living graciously even with a ruthlessly battered self-ego! One is my most closest of relative.. such a strong woman.. all for sake of her family and children!😭.. thrs no dbt she cannot luv another man.. her luv is so holy.. even if its not reciprocated and respected.. I believe women r most selfless being among human being! Thr greatness can never b matched by their male counterparts!
For Ashu the character tht we knew .. mallu's revealation shud break him down completely.. his mistrust on Nidhi.. his unfairness towards Nidhi shud haunt him for the rest of his life.. make him repent and regret beyond any measure..
bt i dont know wats in KPji mind.. he is on character butchering spree! and obviously AshuNidhi seperation will not bring TRPs.. hence he is going to butcher the story as well!
No hopes on this serial anymore!



You know what bothers me...after something as significant as this, they are going to show them indulging in rain romance...the wounds that an incident like this will leave won't heal so easily...it takes time and effort on both sides to reconcile...I begin to wonder what could have possibly happened to make me accept my husband's advances and reciprocate them right after something like this...I don't know...is this show about human beings even?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sujatha.rao

You know what bothers me...after something as significant as this, they are going to show them indulging rain romance...the wounds that an incident like this will leave won't heal so easily...it takes time and effort on both sides to reconcile...I begin to wonder what could have possibly happened to make me accept my husband's advances and reciprocate them right after something like this...I don't know...is this show about human beings even?

I know.. KPji is not taking this tht deep its pretty superficial jst as thr luv.. so it doesnt matter.. neways how thy reconcile!😆..
Ashu wud shed tears and say something pretty and it will melt down nidhi completely and she wud b happily dancing in rain with him..
u know wenever someone has any such MUs with husband.. abt trust.. dbting moral actions of ur partner.. the other partner is able to c more clearly later on how wrong he or she was and repents genuinely.. thr luv makes thm stick together inspite of everything.. and thy learn from their own mistakes and thts how r'ship grows.. the atoot trust tht u talk abt is base of a mrg and once it brks the difference the resentment wud always remain even if thy live together..
here i dont know if Ashu wud ever learn this lesson or Nidhi wud make him learn!
Edited by achiever - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sujata: agree with you most of the part of ur topic..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ Sujatha.rao...

Beautiful post Sujatha...I agree with almost all of what u have written...If Ashu's attitude towards Nidhi yesterday was a result of him believing Mallu's lies to be truth and Nidhi's truth to be lies...Then in his case ur 'atoot vishwas' theory still holds true...but with a difference...Ashu has atoot vishwas in his friend and not in his wife...Although this is a bit hard to digest but given KP's previous comments its not an impossibility...

However I would like to go with ur other theory...That of reading between lines...And much against my better judgement I want to think that Ashu trusts Nidhi and doubts Mallu...and for Nidhi's safety wants to keep her out of Mallu's way...

Lets see what happens now that Nidhi is hell-bent on fighting her battle on her own...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mehek25

@ Sujatha.rao...


Beautiful post Sujatha...I agree with almost all of what u have written...If Ashu's attitude towards Nidhi yesterday was a result of him believing Mallu's lies to be truth and Nidhi's truth to be lies...Then in his case ur 'atoot vishwas' theory still holds true...but with a difference...Ashu has atoot vishwas in his friend and not in his wife...Although this is a bit hard to digest but given KP's previous comments its not an impossibility...

However I would like to go with ur other theory...That of reading between lines...And much against my better judgement I want to think that Ashu trusts Nidhi and doubts Mallu...and for Nidhi's safety wants to keep her out of Mallu's way...

Lets see what happens now that Nidhi is hell-bent on fighting her battle on her own...



Agree with you, Mehek...but if this is the case, that his atoot vishwas in his friend is far stronger than that he has in his wife, then the lines that he spoke just a few days ago about her place in his life being above all others is a huge lie and a farce!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Agree with u.
Even during the injection fiasco, infront of Mallika he blamed her sayimg she hates Mallu but in the room he said he is bothered about Nidhi beiing held responsible for Mallu's accident.
In the last episode too he should have thought b4 saying the fact that Nidhi told she would kill someone who comes in between.
Loved it when she said Shut up Dr. Mallika.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by Sujatha.rao
You know what bothers me...after something as significant as this, they are going to show them indulging rain romance...the wounds that an incident like this will leave won't heal so easily...it takes time and effort on both sides to reconcile...I begin to wonder what could have possibly happened to make me accept my husband's advances and reciprocate them right after something like this...I don't know...is this show about human beings even?

@ Bold...Bingo Sujatha...U have expressed my feelings verbatim...This is not a thing that can be forgotten with just a smile, an apology, and romantic gestures or advances...Yes as a wife if my husband admits that he has been wrong I would forgive him for his harsh words...But believe me it would take a long long time to forget them...Its easier to forgive the one u love, because u love them...But at the same time because u love them unconditionally it makes it more difficult to forget the hurt they cause u...
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Originally posted by achiever

I know.. KPji is not taking this tht deep its pretty superficial jst as thr luv.. so it doesnt matter.. neways how thy reconcile!😆..
Ashu wud shed tears and say something pretty and it will melt down nidhi completely and she wud b happily dancing in rain with him..
u know wenever someone has any such MUs with husband.. abt trust.. dbting moral actions of ur partner.. the other partner is able to c more clearly later on how wrong he or she was and repents genuinely.. thr luv makes thm stick together inspite of everything.. and thy learn from their own mistakes and thts how r'ship grows.. the atoot trust tht u talk abt is base of a mrg and once it brks the difference the resentment wud always remain even if thy live together..
here i dont know if Ashu wud ever learn this lesson or Nidhi wud make him learn!

@ bold...Well said achiever...In Ashni's case not only has Ashu indiccated that he trusts Mallika above her but he has also added insult to injury by telling her (although indirectly and not in so many words) to leave the house...Nidhi should come back and prove her innocence and expose Mallika 9As I am sure she will do)...Defcinitely when Ashu sees the truth he will feel sorry and will even regret what he did...And this will be the true test of their relationship...It will then all depend on what stance Nidhi will take...Will she accept his apology and his regret...(assuming he has learnt a much-needed lesson in trust and also now realises the difference between friendship and love/soulmate) and try to put it all behind her and make a fresh start...Or if she continues to nurture the hurt in her heart...If it is the former then they cam go ahead with their lives and make a success of their marriage as their bond will now become much stronger...But if it is the latter then it will be as per ur words in red...


But both of u have expressed the matter beautifully...Hats off to u both, Sujatha and achiever!!!! 👍🏼

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ Sujatha.rao... but if this is the case, that his atoot vishwas in his friend is far stronger than that he has in his wife, then the lines that he spoke just a few days ago about her place in his life being above all others is a huge lie and a farce!

@ Bold...Sujatha this is what happens when CVs and writers forget to do their homework...They don't remember what they had written a few days back...Me thinks that KP is so busy with the new show he is writing for Sony that he has no time for KTLK...Hence the inconsistency in the dialogues...

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