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Posted: 13 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: ronitfan

Great post Anu!


Although tonight's episode was good..
even I maintain that they hurried in their handling of the Shehenshah track.. they should have developed the track some more before such serious twists and turns..

In the entire track, they sort of painted Nidhi as a casual doctor with little seriousness about what she does as a doctor, which is not true to her character sketch.. while Ashutosh is now aware that she is great as a doctor, would have liked a stellar situation where Nidhi actually saves a day (not the shehenshah filmy way)

I am quite satisfied with the show as of now.. and I hope they do not rush into the 'romance' bit of the show because then the entire charm of the show will be gone.. they need to take their sweet time.. that's what the story, the premise is all about :)



Hey thanks, Sukhi!

I haven't watched tonight's epi yet but will watch that later and see.

I don't honestly get why they rushed through the Shehenshah track so quickly...it seems obvious to everyone that that basic bonding of Nidhi with A and honestly the entire hospital can't be rushed...yet that is exactly what they did...we are expected to believe that in two days Nidhi took over the minds of EVERY person in the hospital?😕😆...that she became such good friends with ppl she just interacted with for TWO days that now she's going to one of their weddings also? Wow😆...they sure are expecting us to swallow a lot just cuz we're being TOLD to.

Yes, Nidhi's seriousness as a doctor is sketchy at best...they never showed her capabilities very credibly in whatever few medical procedures they did show in the show.

I'm ok with the show as of now but I'm feeling wary wondering where they are going to take it...they've already added some elements of burgeoning 'romance' so to speak at this point when they could have waited to show it later...everything that happened in DK around the MID POINT of that show is being shown within the first 3 weeks of this show! It's crazy jet speed!

So yes, they should take their own sweet time when they even have the luxury of doing so...and with the things that MATTER...they rush on the things they should take time with and drag the rest of the epi with filler 'comedy'😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Nureaa - LOOK at all the Malaal splash on your space 😍

ps: Ashutosh is being built as once FB obsessed character - kabi Baba to kabi Nidhi... and I wont say the original did not have this splurge of FBs - but I'm finding it easier to connect with Ahmer's story of past, not to mention his FBs of Zoya are not running round and round in periodic cycles as for Ashutosh.

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Posted: 13 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: JZephyr

**reserved** <--- Oh finally a place! I'm coming back here shortly to do you-can-guess-what 😆


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A much needed thread - thanks for actually rolling up sleeves and posting one for lazy people like me Nur! Agree with all you've said - and shall elaborate more on issues I personally see/foresee in the track progress.

For some reason, the whole idea of 'hastening' up tracks is applied in a very debatable manner. I think there is grave issue with the allocation of priority. The amount of importance that is being given to 'void' Nidhi's absence is causing could have been shared better with the build up that was much needed to show such importance for the presence of a mere intern. Her absence is currently being posed like a situation synonymous to a stuck spanner in a smoothly moving wheel alignment machinery - where everything comes to standstill, with just that small object - unfortunately, the credibility for why a mere spanner can bring this hospital machinery to such a disrupted state was never actually detailed or evolved. I personally wish they would have dealt with her absence affecting anyone and everyone who it did effect, on more individual fronts instead of this widespread perception, not to mention in more subtle ways - the melodrama is too in the face. I had personally really liked the AN dialogue on the day Nidhi declared her decision to quit - Ashutosh telling her how he thought he was losing on a good doctor, for that matter even Mallika and Nidhi's 'farewell' quick dialogue - now if only we'd have had follow up sequences along that kind of reasoning and credibility - would have been so much better.

Agreeing with you also Nur, over the quality of actors ranging from excellent to great potential - a huge plus point, amiss in many popular shows. I mean here's a team of actors who can actually execute subtlety - why not give it to them in script? Some of the Nidhi-Angie scenes have been very good; then some of the other scenes, including AN, have been very off. It just doesn't feel like one consistent team of writers doing the entire thing at times - and if it is, they need to stop treating each scene as an independent space to cramp in every kind of emotion as if it were their only chance - whether or not it gels with the rest of the big picture. Yes, we all want to see AN scenes, their build up, their 'chemistry' if one must call it that - but certainly not at the cost of an unconvincing hurried track. This is a different theme, and given the lead actors, honestly, one could see chemistry even if we didn't get pre-poned 'lowe' feelings creeping in.

I also want to add, that while not having to get disjoint and half baked Ashutosh FBs is somewhat a relief, I'm wary of the idea, that when that angle of the story has to be brought up eventually, it too will feel rushed, if not treated as a parallel track in time, and worked upon so the audience can actually feel that connection - I mean lets not forget its going to act up as one major divide between AN, and if we can't connect with Ashutosh's past currently, we will only find him plain unfair and unwarranted in bringing it up as a wall later. And that, I suppose, is not the plan by book.

As for Ranga and Angie - I seem to like their scenes for the most. They are not the profound quotient to this story, and frankly, I hope it remains that way, with consistency. They need to be the buffer here, as Maz said at one point - and I would be happy if their respective advice to A and N together or alone, can keep up along those lines, as befitting of their characters. I said this earlier, I wasn't fond of the kind of Ranga Nidhi scene we got earlier this week - half baked, with very little base to make the points it did on the surface.

Using Medical base to their advantage would be fantastic - but I can personally bear hastening there, if the characters otherwise in general show consistency towards their sketching and evolution. So we don't just get a character like Nidhi dishing out pyaar and life gyaan at Ashutosh. The other way round, at some point, could make far more sense. He's the guy with a bitter past here. And she is healing panacea. If she started pulling off the solemnity more than was needed, I see her no different from Mallika!

And phew - did this get long or what! Can they please stick to the concept. Focus on the big picture and progress the story in coherence?

A big applause👏👏👏 for the understanding u have and since, i share thsame understanding i can imagine ur frustration😆😆here are some of the reasons😊 i think are reponsible for the show not clicking with the audience eventhough it had a good start😳...i mean the show has such potential and i was so exited to see it,😛😛 and it did live up to its expectations initially😛⭐️... but now it is going to the same old drag track😕 where the heroine is just a silly human😕 who doesnt have the capability to think wats wrong and wats right for herself😛😛..is confused beyong logic🤢🤢🤢...i mean i dont understand why in order to show a heroine innocent and fun loving😳😳 the CV's end up makinh her look like a fool and an idiot🤢😡😡...iam sorry(since i like Nidhi too😳) but the kind of importance that is bieng given to Nidhi and her absense at the hospital is senseless and stupid.🤢🤢...the children missing her was still fine😛...even Ashu missing her a bit was cool😳😳 (though i didnt like it wen he aloowed her to stay for the operation even though he knew that she had resigned and didnt even come for a visit wen Dr. Ranga told her Kids are suffering.🤢..it shows his lack of discipline😡🤢...unusual for a man who is called Dr. Heartstone coz he is such a struct disciplinarian😕...so wat if he likes her its agaisnt the rules🤢🤢of a responsible Doc and infact its too early to show him changing for a girl who is so finicky) since he somewhere likes her😳😳...but i cannot relate to all this "Oh God Nidhi is sooo grt jaap"😡😕 by one and all. i find it baseless😡😡...Nidhi quit her job coz she was underconfident😕 and scared🤢 unusual for a girl of 24-25 yrs of age and that too someone who has done an MBBS🥱🥱(she didnt want to do it is no excuse🥱🥱 , she is not a kid...she could have been as adamant as she is now in refusing her father to do MBBS😕😕)...she seemed rather cold and unfit for bieng a doctor wen she downright rejected🤢🤢 Dr. Ranga's request to atleat visit the hospital for sometime for the kid's sake🤢🤢 and to top all that...Ranga saying "ohhh Dr.Nidhi...i could never forget u...u are special rant"🥱🥱...had i been at his place i would have said" fine enough i respect ur decision😕😕 but actually u were right ...u r not fit for bieng a doctor or u r not fit for any resposible job🤢🤢"...my dad is a doctor😛 and i know how responsilble and dedicated he is towards his job😛😛...a doctor is considered next to God.😛😳..so i cant like this irresponsible behaviour 😕 and today agian those patients naming thier kid after Nidhi...i mean she just assisted the team of Doctors in the operation🤔 ...it was not like she was the only doc and she handled the complicated surgery alone😲 and saved both the mother and child singlehandedly...infact she was even scared to do the closing after the operation😕🥱...and wat irritated me the most was that couple saying" plsss hamari bachi ko ashirwaad de do...ise aapke jaisa doctor banaenge" Puhleasss🥱😕🤢
Edited by sameera_ori - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: JZephyr

Nureaa - LOOK at all the Malaal splash on your space 😍


ps: Ashutosh is being built as once FB obsessed character - kabi Baba to kabi Nidhi... and I wont say the original did not have this splurge of FBs - but I'm finding it easier to connect with Ahmer's story of past, not to mention his FBs of Zoya are not running round and round in periodic cycles as for Ashutosh.



LOLL I don't want to debate on DK, Jzee...I'm sure you will love it far more...I already mentioned that that Ahmer-Baba storyline in DK was better than it is in KTLK...but the rest I'm not a die-hard fan of...for obvious reasons they didn't show that many FBs in DK...the show was a short finite series.

If KTLK rises up to the challenge, they can show the AN relationship very nicely...but that remains to be seen.

Yep I was looking for some Malaal icons so dug these out :-)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Okay I also want to add/point out - that the last scene today, which was sadly too much melodrama for me - would have technically in the essence it was intended as (IMO) served a good way to bring Nidhi back. In making her return decision partly influenced by her odd vibes with the intimidating yet enigmatic personality of Ashutosh - while being more prompted on a conscious level by her inner revelation that she did in fact want to be a doctor and serve the cause, because it gladdened her heart to touch peoples lives like that! I was very happy when Nidhi had first made a decision to quit, because in my head, I had seen scope for this kind of further growth of track - not to mention the kind of implicit potential it would give to leverage the AN track, with Ashutosh's own reaction/response to Nidhi coming back on such grounds, even presenting her side of premise as such - minus the mention of his pull of course!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01



LOLL I don't want to debate on DK, Jzee...I'm sure you will love it far more...I already mentioned that that Ahmer-Baba storyline in DK was better than it is in KTLK...but the rest I'm not a die-hard fan of...for obvious reasons they didn't show that many FBs in DK...the show was a short finite series.

If KTLK rises up to the challenge, they can show the AN relationship very nicely...but that remains to be seen.

Yep I was looking for some Malaal icons so dug these out :-)


Well I'm still half way - and sure there is all the drama quotient to DK too. I suppose the polishing of the story isn't all that well done, and while I like Irfan in general, there are plenty of redundant comic sequences. What I am really liking in general about DK, which I find amiss too often on KTLK is the writing itself. I think the dialog in DK has been far far better, so far. Then again, characters like Angie and Mallika/Sheena are better in KTLK... ac actors and characters, so far. I hope they cash on such advantages!

And I especially like your avi atm =)
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Posted: 13 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: JZephyr


Well I'm still half way - and sure there is all the drama quotient to DK too. I suppose the polishing of the story isn't all that well done, and while I like Irfan in general, there are plenty of redundant comic sequences. What I am really liking in general about DK, which I find amiss too often on KTLK is the writing itself. I think the dialog in DK has been far far better, so far. Then again, characters like Angie and Mallika/Sheena are better in KTLK... ac actors and characters, so far. I hope they cash on such advantages!

And I especially like your avi atm =)



If you really want me to list out everything...I will...I'm not an Irfan fan *shock and horror* :P...yes the dialogues were much better in DK...but even then it was a slow show in many ways...many times when they could have made an impact, the scenes didn't REALLY make an impact...not on me atleast...DK waali Anjie largely bored me to death...I LOVE KTLK waali Anjie😆...Mallika is a major improvement over Sheena and her ceiling stares...overall I wasn't MAJORLY impressed by the handling of the Ahmer-Zoya track by the end of the series...infact the ending itself felt kinda abrupt to me😆...

Having watched DK, I can actually see AMPLE scope of improving on the original IF the KTLK team would notice the options they have...and I'm not sure where/if/how they are doing that.

I love this avi too...the way Zeenia's looking at him...fantastic acting by Deepti too...she emotes so beautifully.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Since they are going to stretch a 13 episode story [dhoop kinare] to suit today's audience, I would suggest that they introduce interesting subplots. Keep the romance intact but also bring forth the medical background and establish various cameos, perhaps introduce more Doctors too.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01



Hey thanks, Sukhi!

I haven't watched tonight's epi yet but will watch that later and see.

I don't honestly get why they rushed through the Shehenshah track so quickly...it seems obvious to everyone that that basic bonding of Nidhi with A and honestly the entire hospital can't be rushed...yet that is exactly what they did...we are expected to believe that in two days Nidhi took over the minds of EVERY person in the hospital?😕😆...that she became such good friends with ppl she just interacted with for TWO days that now she's going to one of their weddings also? Wow😆...they sure are expecting us to swallow a lot just cuz we're being TOLD to.

Yes, Nidhi's seriousness as a doctor is sketchy at best...they never showed her capabilities very credibly in whatever few medical procedures they did show in the show.

I'm ok with the show as of now but I'm feeling wary wondering where they are going to take it...they've already added some elements of burgeoning 'romance' so to speak at this point when they could have waited to show it later...everything that happened in DK around the MID POINT of that show is being shown within the first 3 weeks of this show! It's crazy jet speed!

So yes, they should take their own sweet time when they even have the luxury of doing so...and with the things that MATTER...they rush on the things they should take time with and drag the rest of the epi with filler 'comedy'😕


HAHAHHAHAA really yaar..
I hope the makers of this show the meaning of the word subtle or alteast known that there exists such a word.. I mean, come ONNN.. you have one of the best actors on the tube - Mohnish Behl acting a role which seems to be tailor made for him.. you cannot do this to him, and to us!!

They need to really slow down and focus on the intricacies of their interactions.. and one more thing that puzzles me is how EVERYONE is in awe of Nidhi.. not just the kids, but Ranganathan, the head nurse, the other interns.. so much so that she's now even invited to the wedding of that intern who she prolly never even met in the hospital! 😆

There are other ways of showing a character's effectiveness.. they should stop going down this filmy route and you'll understand what I am saying when you watch the last scene of tonight's episode. They are doing the same mistake what BALH did in the first few weeks.. making the obvious even more obvious😆

And yea,
totally agree with you about the 'midpoint' of the show which they seem to be running towards.. well all we can hope for is a well planned track.. hope we get it!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ronitfan

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They need to really slow down and focus on the intricacies of their interactions.. and one more thing that puzzles me is how EVERYONE is in awe of Nidhi.. not just the kids, but Ranganathan, the head nurse, the other interns.. so much so that she's now even invited to the wedding of that intern who she prolly never even met in the hospital! 😆...

I missed last two episodes but I agree that it seems little unrealistic how everyone's going gaga over Nidhi. They didn't show anything substantial for audience to believe Nidhi's magical power. 😆
On that highlighted part: Couldn't it be possible that the intern was in the same Medical school with Nidhi?

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