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Posted: 8 years ago
I loved the idea of Dev literally falling into garbage bin 🤣 You guys are genius !!


Honesty this place is like heaven to me. I dont know in which world and in which timeframe, I can bring myself up well enough with justifying Dev's midnight adventure plans. If I were a kid, a strange 2 rupee man forcing me to hurt my dadu dida (yeah please let's not forget Soha's charactertization as a sensitive and righteous kid) would be the last enjoyable thing to me, but then again, such 2 rupee man would never be the 'hero' of my and my mother's life in the first place 🤣 hence no obligations to adhere to his shitty rules here 😆


I loved the analysis on Elena. Yes indeed misery loves company. What happened to that episode with Elena's monologue about selfish Dixits including her jeejaji's/Dev Bhaiya's 😆 Amnesia haan.


I dont expect any introspection or anything of that 'sensitive' thing from the Bully ML anymore, bass he should be either again beaten up by goons sent by Vicky or fall on garbage truck like Ananya said 🤣
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Posted: 8 years ago
+ That's why Elena felt that there is scope in DevAkshi. Cuz she is sure that Sona can have an easy life (due to her status) with hormonal romance.. which is not deniable. And that she values over dignity, mutual respect and trust. Maybe she wants that Sona also becomes that girl whose hurt pride can be cured by a little bed romance. (Remember that scene where Vicky sends men to beat Dev and Elena overhears.. But he changes the topic to an offer at romance and that Ditz agrees)
Misery loves Company, after all.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

Epi toh nahi dekha ..but looks like same old , same old ! Dev babu wahi ke wahi hai ..no badlaav at all.. And here I was thinking he will be shown winning brownie points from Soha for standing up for Sonakshi against mamiji and the likes of her. Keeping his own insecurity abt Jatin - Sona aside , does he really think Mami ji has any interest in his personal well being ? If he does , the I have nothing to say😕.

Now , what's with the characters of this show always going to meet other people in the middle of the night ? ( not clear wjether it was night or day ) When will they start using their phones ? Jatin knows that Dev is a jerk and he also knows abt the other jerks in Dixit house . What was the need to go there not thinking it could create a difficult situation for Sona ? I understand his concern and worry for both Soha and Sona . But he could have called to find out . Anyways , will wait for the whole thing to play out . If it wasnt in the middle of the night , then I take back my words😃




I refuse to believe that no badlaav in Dev please ! In S1 amidst all his flaws he was a gentleman except for occasional outbursts, as if that wasn't enough now he has gone 5 level backward and creating a new low standard of a Male Lead in the history of television 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
When you check in on the story after a long time to see if there's improvement but the story has got even worse with no progress in Dev's character.





P.S. - The next week totally looks like season 1 repeat with GKB and Vicky taunts. Dev redemption looks unlikely until Jan- Feb 2018 😆
Edited by Zeddriz7 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Zeddriz7

When you check in on the story after a long time to see if there's improvement but the story has got even worse with no progress in Dev's character.





P.S. - The next week totally looks like season 1 repeat with GKB and Vicky taunts. Dev redemption looks unlikely until Jan- Feb 2018 😆


But sonas redemption will be done by may 2017 proving issueworry as best mother...😆
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Posted: 8 years ago

FINALLY A DETAILED ANAYLSIS :

Dev-Sona

The episode started with a typical' conversation of our beloved couple! This kind of bickering is what I like, where it is not really arguing for the sake of arguing (okay well, in our Dev-Sona's case, it invariably is!!) but more a case of arguing because you care. I warmed up hearing the first of the dialogues... Arey, bachche ho kya?' Tum principal ho kya?'. Dev was insistent on getting inside the room to meet Suhana & Sona was trying her best to dissuade him from going in. I was smiling at the genuine concern Sona was showing, worried that Dev may also fall ill. This looked so nice & so real! Dev, stop acting like a petulant kid! And finally, it was the kid in question that managed to convince the kidult! Suhana made Dev promise that he wouldn't enter her room & Dev had to grudgingly agree. Oh Dev, its ok, your anxiousness is understandable but you need to be practical too. The KRPKAB music playing in the background was a nice touch and so was the understanding nod Sona had for Dev. It was really nice to see this level of quiet understanding they were now having where mere glances were enough to convey their thoughts. A very sweet scene!

Bose House

BB was lost in thoughts about Sona & Soha leaving & everyone was trying to cajole him. When Asha informed him, BB was apologetic at ignoring Ronita's cooking & finally started eating. He was so lost in the delicious food that Asha calling out to him to gift Ronita a necklace went unheard. Now that's what I call focus & focus on the important things in life!

There was really nothing much to the scene but it showed how the family was again back to its cheerful mode & Ronita was making a place for herself in the Bose family. Nice!

Dev-Mamaji

I loved the scene for its simplicity in showing the nervousness that a caring parent would have towards his sick child. Dev hadn't slept the whole night & was fretting over Suhana's illness, feeling helpless reading about how she may be experiencing irritation & pain. Aww, that was so genuine. Dev told Mamaji that he wanted to consult another doctor for a 2nd opinion & Mamaji could only smile indulgently at Dev, understanding his worried state. Mamaji finally managed to assure Dev that chickenpox was not something he needed to overly worry about. He also persuaded Dev to agree to wait for some more time before deciding on an alternate course of action.

Sona watched this entire interaction from above & yet again, it warmed my heart to see her genuinely understanding Dev as a very concerned, caring & protective parent. In addition to that, this soft, emotional side of Dev which had always attracted her in the past, was making her soften her attitude towards him.

Sona-Boses

Sona informed Asha about Soha's illness. I was happy to see that the trio leaving at midnight was not something that was a big issue now. Asha advised Sona to not inform BB about Soha's illness as she was worried about him getting agitated & possibly insisting on getting them back to Bose House. I wondered if it was the right thing to do but it did seem to be the most appropriate thing to do & Asha has always had a better understanding of how to tackle sensitive issues.

I liked this realistic touch again by the Makers. While it is true that honesty is the best policy & one must not hide things from the family, sometimes delaying the truth does seem the best thing to do, keeping in mind the nature of the issue. Nice touch of realism, Makers!

Dev-Sona & the Magic!

Dev knocked on Soha's room with a tray laden with home remedies to alleviate her pain & suffering. I must admit, I quite like this frequent inclusion of home remedies in this show. I am a big fan of these remedies too, preferring herbal to chemical cures for small & common ailments so naturally this appeals to me!

As Sona opened the door, toweling her hair, the focus of the scene shifted from medicine to mini-romance! Dev was unable to take his gaze off Sona & even as she asked him to speak, he could initially barely mumble anything coherent! As I mentioned before, when it comes to Dev, Sona & eyelocks, I am ok with anything that's shown, miniscule or not, believable or not! The water droplets on Dev's face from Sona's wet hair, the eyelocks, electrifying' touch of fingers, arm holding... Bring It On Makers, this die-hard romantic is ever ready to watch all these! However filmy' it looked, for me the Magic of this amazing duo's chemistry always has me hooked & this time too, I was all smiles.

Amidst all this romance, Dev implored Sona to use the home remedies for Suhana as a supplementary cure. Sona understood Dev's genuine concern & appreciated his efforts. They were now behaving like a very normal couple, understanding & supporting each other. That was very endearing to watch.

Sona smiled warmly at Dev & a visibly affected Dev quickly moved away!

Sona-Elena

The conversation between the 2 sisters was started off with Elena telling Sona that she always longed for such times with her (Sona) & Sona also telling Elena that she missed her a lot.

This was a very nice scene but didn't have much emotional depth as it didn't bring out that sense of longing the 2 sisters claimed they had, as they missed each other all these years. Sona asking Elena as to why she never bothered to call & Elena apologizing guiltily had me wondering as to why Sona too couldn't have contact Elena if she too missed her as much? Sona mentioned that Asha & she used to often talk about her (Elena).

Ups & downs toh life mein hote rehte hain but I am fine'...I liked Elena's spirit as she stoically told Sona that things changed a lot after marriage. Her comment Tune jo bhi kiya na Sona, sahi kiya' was very telling. It wasn't so much about whether Sona was right in breaking off her marriage, it was more about the choice that Sona could make, to walk out of a relationship she didn't want to be in, which Elena felt she didn't have. I felt bad for Elena, she had eloped & married Vicky for love, gone against her family's wishes, now had a child to think about...walking out of that marriage with Vicky would have been something she would've considered many times but she was not in a position to break off due to various reasons...she didn't appear to be financially independent, probably wasn't emotionally strong to walk out, she had the responsibility of a child...all these may have forced her to stay on in the marriage which was now more a marriage of convenience than of love. Sad!

Elena cautioned Sona against the unscrupulous duo who were not pleased at her arrival into Ishwari Niwas. It was nice to see that Sona agreed & accepted that some things could never change & this duo came in that category. Hopefully this time around, Sona will not fall prey to Vicky-Mami's sinister plans. Elena's unstinting support would have surely given the additional confidence she needed in tackling with the problems ahead. Finally, they did what I was hoping for a long time now...both the sisters hugged each other with so much warmth & love. At last, all was really well between the 2.

Agar 1% bhi chance hai na, ki Soha ko uski family mil jaaye, toh please sochna zaroor'

Elena asked Sona to consider a reconciliation with Dev for the sake of Soha. She understood the meaning of having a complete family for the child's sake. Her own family was incomplete with Golu never really getting the parental love that he was rightfully entitled to & here I would definitely blame Elena for ignoring that sweet, innocent kid. Vicky was a bad father but Elena was a negligent mother & poor Golu suffered, saved only by his BigCha's unconditional & complete love. Her advice to Sona largely stemmed from her own inadequacies as a good parent.

Her comment had Sona wondering.

Dev-Sona

Sona was in the kitchen when she heard some noise and with the lamp flashing in true filmy' style, noticed the main door ajar & went outside to check. Dev put Golu to sleep & headed to Suhana's room to check on her & was surprised to see Mami opening the door.

Mami spun a yarn about Sona missing since the last half an hour & Suhana asking for her mother and an anxious Dev left to look for Sona. Mami's knowing look as Dev departed had me wondering if she had any part to play in what happened earlier with Sona.

Dev noticed the door open too & was shocked to see Sona talking to someone, who he realized soon enough, was Jatin. Dev got understandably upset, having told Jatin earlier to not come to Ishwari Niwas. I am not sure as to what to make out of all this. My first question would be...what was Jatin doing outside Ishwari Niwas at that time of the night? Was it something urgent that couldn't have waited until morning that he had to come personally to meet Sona? Did he call before coming or was he hanging around there? Did Mami have any role in all this?

Dev's annoyance on seeing Jatin outside his home was an opportunity for Mami who tried to poison his mind about being concerned at Sona's inappropriate behavior & about people gossiping. Dev brushed aside her fake concerns but Mami insinuated Sona being an irresponsible mother as she was busy chatting away with no care about her sick daughter. Dev didn't rise to the bait but it was obvious that he was not pleased at Jatin's arrival & Sona's conversation with him.

As Sona came in, a very disturbed Dev accosted her & Sona's calm answer that as Jatin was forbidden from entering inside, she had gone out to meet him further annoyed Dev. They argued & Sona calling Jatin as Soha's godfather had me wondering. Was I reading too much into this term? Because being a father figure & being a godfather are 2 very different things. I will put this down as a creative glitch & ignore it for the time being. I will continue on the premise that Jatin is a father figure to Soha, nothing more.

Dev told Sona that he did not consider her to be a responsible mother who could take care of her daughter alone. His comment that in the last 6 years, Sona managed to take care of Soha because of able support from the Boses, though valid, were not right or even appropriate, in my view. Sona naturally prickled at that comment but what she said made me smile wryly. Here they were, arguing again, both equally concerned about their daughter & getting irritated at each other that they didn't realize what they were saying. Sona called Dev insecure & one can't completely disagree with that. It was a fact that Jatin was someone Dev felt insecure about at many levels, his closeness to both Sona & Soha was something Dev was not comfortable about. At this point, Dev was definitely not happy seeing Jatin with Sona but at the same time, he was also concerned about Soha & expected Sona to be around her all the time. Not seeing her with Soha was the real reason behind his initial outburst, although seeing Jatin with Sona was also an equal contributing factor. This time around, Sona understood this very well & hence her valid question stumped Dev.

Jo apne insecurities ka tamasha banaa raha ho...usey ye decide kar lena chahiye ke usey kis cheez se problem hai...Soha ke bimaar hone se ya Soha ki Maa kisse baat karrahi hai, usse'

As Sona left, Dev was left standing wondering at what she had asked & wondering at his own reaction.

Last Scene

A very poignant scene with flashbacks that got me emotional again. Dev with Golu (was that Ish's room they were in?) and Sona with Soha in Dev's room were lost in thought. Dev thought about Sona talking with Jatin & tightly closed his eyes, realizing that he was getting jealous. He then thought of the lovely moments he had spent with Sona 7 years ago. Sona too was thinking about the time she & Dev had spent together & it was interesting to note that they both were thinking of pretty much the same moments they had shared. The look Sona had as she looked at Dev's side of the bed was very poignant as she remembered her own words she had told him (Aap mere liye itne important ho chuke hain ke aapke alawa mujhe aur koi hurt hi nahi kar sakta'). She realized how Dev was yet again becoming important to her & his words were capable of hurting her even now.

The episode ended with both of them remembering that fateful night when they broke up before uttering those harsh words & realizing how much they still affected each other...Realizing how much they still cared.

Conclusion & Final Words

Things look like they were definitely improving between Dev & Sona, even if they were only in spurts. They still got annoyed with each other & they argued but now there was also the realization that they cared about each other. They both frequently remembered the times they had spent together & while Dev always remembered the happy moments, now even Sona was remembering those happy moments. They both were now more wistful than bitter about the past, although the way they separated still pains them. Their common purpose of their daughter's happiness & their genuine concern for her well-being was making them more understanding towards each other & making them realize that things needn't be as bad between them as they had set out making them. It was possible to have a relationship of cordiality & quiet understanding. While love didn't feature between them right now, they know they care. These come out in various forms like insecurity & mild jealousy for both of them but deep down, they know they are now hurt & had hurt the other in the past but don't want to deliberately hurt the other anymore.

Realization... the best step towards trying to make things better. Dev & Sona were on this path of realization now & things had to get better.


PS - I love the title Tia😉

Edited by DEFOM - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Zeddriz7

When you check in on the story after a long time to see if there's improvement but the story has got even worse with no progress in Dev's character.





P.S. - The next week totally looks like season 1 repeat with GKB and Vicky taunts. Dev redemption looks unlikely until Jan- Feb 2018 😆

👏🤣 Very apt expression for the state of the show.. Don't you worry.. Dev is flawed and Sona is supposed to understand and adjust to that.. So why do you think Dev should be improved? Isn't it Sona's fault that she didn't sympathize, empathize, analyze poor soul Dev's 'flawed' character.. And it's time to teach Sona her much needed lesson.. Dev's flaws are perfect and he's perfect without need for improvement. It's Sona who has to improvise and perfect herself to match the needs of poor Dev.. And CVs can pat on their back.. They have achieved what they wanted.. Creating more Dev 'understanding' souls and hope these souls practice what they 'understand' and 'empathize' and 'analyze' for Dev, in their real life too with real-time Devs 😉... Can't help but pray for these souls to increase their understanding levels without losing their patience 😆 And especially not being flawed themselves instead improving themselves to be the perfect one to understand their perfectly flawed Dev.. 😉
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Defom: Very well detailed and written your take on the episode.. Good to see some good writing on neutral views without taking sides to defend or offend one or the other character.. 👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
Dev falling in a municipality garbage bin 🤣 I am rofling in here really. Man ananya is so funny🤗👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
Defom - Thanks for sharing the article :) Nice read indeed.


However, the whole article is written to drive the conclusion mentioned in the last paragraph that both Dev and Sona have begun to understand each other as a parent. Sorry but cannot help but completely disagree on this part. Sona's coming to Delhi and letting Dev know about Soha despite being rejected 5.5 yrs back, her agreeing to negotiate with Dev on Soha's upbringing after being humiliated like anything and even yesterday's nod make me believe that Sona does understand Dev's concern as a parent. But Dev? If tying up a mother to spend time with daughter, if manhandling a mother in the middle of the night for any xyz reason, if asking somebody to stay out of his daughter's life just because HE, the almighty doesnt approve of it no matter how much his daughter herself wants to be with that person, his waking up an already sick child to wing his fansy whims without even bothering to let Sona inform her family members and thus totally discarding the fatherly and motherly affection of Bose family - these actions are signs of 'understanding Sona' and 'improving himself', then I must say this is way beyond my level of understanding. In my opinion, despite having a daughter, a mother and surrounded by 3 sisters, Dev has been grown up as the biggest MCP around there who cannot even tolerate/understand Feminism, let alone be understanding Sonakshi. I cannot recall one incident where he shows even the slightest sign of 'understanding' and 'acknowledging' Sona as the parent of his daughter. Hell with Sona, he doesnt even acknowledge the professional Doctors and is only blind for his mother's love for his daughter. In his eyes, if there was ever a mother in the world, it gotta be Ishwari. RIP Mother Mary, RIP Asha, RIP Sona 😆

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