'Aakhir khud ki zindagi ka faisla khud karenge'..

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi guys ! Just popping in to say hi, missing the forum during long vacation but will be back soon.. 😃


But just a thought crossed my mind - a dialog from blockbuster Elena Man 😆 - Apni zindagi ka faisla hum khud karte hai.. Trying to understand if the purpose of the track is to show Devakshi, specially Dev in contrast that sometimes it's necessary to take our life decisions on our own without anyone's interference.. That even if they did a mistake by marrying, still if it's a lesson that kids would do things on their own, fail and learn from it.. That Vicky, despite not having any authority or right, knows his duty as a husband if he promised something to his wife.. Personally I loved that line - Ek sher ko hamesha sherni ki hi zaroorat hoti hai !
😉 Are they here to show how they take everyone on a ride by deciding their own things on their own and not depending on everyone's validations before doing something for each other ? 😉


If so, I am all in for the track !! But honestly if this is a track to whitewash Dev and Ishwari by showing Vicky's protest in negative light against the usual Dixit Scheme of Free Nonstop DIL Insults then I am not ok for this. I dont know what makers are upto, but if Dev is -5 on defending wife and adopts miraculous silence in such occasions, making Vicky +5 and showing him disrespecting the elders to save the honor of his wife is also another extreme and cannot be appreciated.. If GKB's insensitivity and verbal diarrhea is shown time and again against Elena, Ishwari's subtle mindgames and rigid, non-accepting nature would also seem white due to her sugar-coated words.. And that is how Dev and Ishu's whitewash would begin and I am so not ready for it 😕 😆 All I am interested in is to see how Ishwari and Dev learns to balance and score neutral in their own relationships involving Sona, not in how Dev-Sona-Ishu trio looks in front of Vicky-Elena-GKB trio.. The former trio needs to find the balance themselves, showing extremity and comparison with another trio to black/whitewash is not very subtle way..


Looking forward to see your views on the same.. 😛 Hoping for fun discussions guys 😳 😃

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I am afraid. .In this track they may end up showing vicky and elena are much greater in balancing. I really hope they keep Dev and sona character are hero of the show not villain.
Hope this track is for eshwari to realise her misdeeds.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Copy pasting my thoughts from another thread

I think its purpose is to show a different type of love marriage - where the kids are selfish and are not confident that they can answer and justify their love for the other in front of family. So they feel lets elope and get married -- yes it will cause tremendous pain to both families but eventually they will all forgive them and they can live happily... that is the thinking that goes behind - elope n marry case. This is exactly why i predicted vicky and elena will go this route... they are selfish and not confident. Their Love may be true but they feel it is not worth to convince the families and marry when they can cause momenary pain and get acceptance.

Kuch rang shaadi ke aise bhi... I believe makers will show different types of scenarios ...
1. Dev and Sona - They put families above their love and happily sacrifice their love before marriage or happiness after marriage if needed. DIL accepts family but family doesnt accept DIL.
2. Neha and Ranveer - They got married with everyones approval and inlaws are cool but there is difference of opinion/over demanding marriage/misunderstanding/lack of communication. Family accepts DIL as their own but DIL doesnt accept husbands family
3. Vicky and Elena - Elope and marry - they are selfish and you will see that they as a couple will do things even against the family... i am confident they will go on HM etc.
4. Riya and aayan - arranged marriage...hope this marriage doesnt happen... but this will be another scenario where the bride or groom has ulterior motive.. and family ignoring the signs and rushing in to marriage


From Vicky-Elena track
1. Ishwari will learn how it looks and feels when your son is actually being inconsiderate
2. GKB will learn how it feels like when her ladla beta goes against mommy's wishes - she will be forced to respect elena
3. Dev will learn how he could stand for his wife in small small things even if she doesnt make a big deal about it.
4. Sona will learn how to fight for her right .. even though she likes to be mahan

I dont think vicky and elena will turn bad or againt sona - but they will definitely have their own lifestyle which will be way different from Dev and Sona's

All these tracks show how different everyones life could be .. every one could be happy when a couple and its family finds the balance and lives in harmony.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hey, long time no see. hope you are having fun in your vacation.
I think Elena is all empty air but useless just like Vicky. By all means take decisions about your own life. But also take responsibility for it. You can't marry against your cousin's wishes and then expect to live under her roof while your husband takes money from her husband's company. If you want to take your decision, you can leave Dixit mansion and stand on your own two feet.

But these two seems to think that they have right to take their own decisions while accessing family bank for their lifestyle.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

Hey, long time no see. hope you are having fun in your vacation.

I think Elena is all empty air but useless just like Vicky. By all means take decisions about your own life. But also take responsibility for it. You can't marry against your cousin's wishes and then expect to live under her roof while your husband takes money from her husband's company. If you want to take your decision, you can leave Dixit mansion and stand on your own two feet.

But these two seems to think that they have right to take their own decisions while accessing family bank for their lifestyle.


hi Tia,
sorry but i disagree on this part. To me vicky working in Dev's company should not have an influence on the relationship that vicky and elena share. Its just like any other job and we don't get indebted to our employer to decide our life for us. Sona as a cousin might have asked elena to stay away, but ultimately she cannot decide what is best for Elena. Elena has every right to make the decisions of her life. And her being not remorseful yesterday is show casing the fact that she does not consider it wrong in marrying vicky. I am not discussing here on whether she is right in accepting some one who tried to molest her in the first place blah... blah .. blah.

I am not defending Elena and vicky here, but let's draw a parallel. If Dev could stalk sona, gatecrash her date with Ritwick, cause harm to ritwick financially all in the name of love and yet Bose's are all forgiving and accepting him as their SIL and love of their daugther's life then what is wrong in Vicky? after all he too he is a human being and anyone can fall in love with him
haaan but elena falling in love in spite of knowing his nature is just those girls who fall for someone knowing that person is a casanova. what matters is not how he "WAS " but what he is "now" .

If elena feels that Vicky is a changed man,then let her suit herself.

to me Vicky not respecting sona does not hold so much importance, he had always been like that. he doesn't feel the need to show any respect towards her and most importantly he gets away with it. Dev raising his voice has no meaning, after all sona is his wife and he will be cross or rather he has to be cross. But if Ishwari, neha or even RR objected to the way he was talking to sona, telling him that he needs to have a basic decorum when speaking to a lady ... yup then it makes some sense.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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I am looking at the humorous side of things now. From a star cast and scenes that were more focused on individuals, small little things, the show has grown in size that is comparable with ERSK!! first it was GKB, Mama and Vicky added, then came natasha and gujral, then came Elena, then came Ranveer and his family, then came Ayaan and his family, and now it seems every frame is shot with more people in it!!! (honestly, i want to see only Dev and Sona - very selfish thought)

yes, i am sure that Dev and Sona too will have to bring in a balance in their life. Sona is no different from Dev when it comes to family.. both are on the same side of the fence. I would like Dev to become more "like" vicky when it comes to taking decisions that matter to his own personal space and love. He is not like Vicky who is essentially selfish. Dev is not. The sooner Dev brings this balance, no matter how and where he learns from, it will be growth.

I think Sona is more balanced as of now, though she tends to over do things quite a few times. But overall, her sense of balance is better than Dev today.

The ideally balanced family in the show is the Bose family ( and elena was never a part of it, obviously). There are times that Bijoy goes off his handle, much the same that Dev goes off his..

The good part is learning never stops in life. As long as there is breath, there is life. As long as there is life, there is learning.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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I am not saying that Dev as Vicky's employer should have any influence on Vicky's decision to marry nor Sonakshi can tell whom Elena should or shouldn't marry. But Elena got married as per wishes and came to live in the cousin's house (Dixit mansion is not Vicky's house) whom she lied to. All I wanted to say is that if she has enough independence to get married out of her own will, then she should have enough self-respect to live somewhere else but under Sona's husband's roof.

It's like if a landlord objects a tenant to have a pet, the tenant says that the landlord has no right to tell him whether to have a pet or not and gets a pet. But expects to continue to stay at the same place instead of finding alternative accommodation.

That's my point. Take your decision where the roof is owned by you and you earn your own way. You can't take your own decisions under someone else's roof.

Regarding Vicky, yes, Elena can fall in love with him. But I can't justify hurting and betraying people who loved her for much longer for a love she knew for much less time. I did not justify Dev's behaviour either. If you recall I blamed both Dev and Sonakshi at that time.

Elena could have talked to at least her own parents who had never met Vicky and hence weren't prejudiced against him. But she kept them in the dark as well. It was betrayal, pure and simple.

Now as an employer Dev may not have any say in Vicky's life but 1. He can fire/demote him for embezzling money and b. Fire him for insulting his wife. That Dev can do. The reason Vicky does not feel the need to respect Sona is the reason no one in Dixit house feels the need to show respect to Sona. Because 1. there is no negative consequences and 2. Dev most of the time remains silent. The way he reacted today had he reacted every time someone disrespects his wife whoever that person may be, no one would have the guts to insult Sona.

Originally posted by: randomramblings


hi Tia,
sorry but i disagree on this part. To me vicky working in Dev's company should not have an influence on the relationship that vicky and elena share. Its just like any other job and we don't get indebted to our employer to decide our life for us. Sona as a cousin might have asked elena to stay away, but ultimately she cannot decide what is best for Elena. Elena has every right to make the decisions of her life. And her being not remorseful yesterday is show casing the fact that she does not consider it wrong in marrying vicky. I am not discussing here on whether she is right in accepting some one who tried to molest her in the first place blah... blah .. blah.

I am not defending Elena and vicky here, but let's draw a parallel. If Dev could stalk sona, gatecrash her date with Ritwick, cause harm to ritwick financially all in the name of love and yet Bose's are all forgiving and accepting him as their SIL and love of their daugther's life then what is wrong in Vicky? after all he too he is a human being and anyone can fall in love with him
haaan but elena falling in love in spite of knowing his nature is just those girls who fall for someone knowing that person is a casanova. what matters is not how he "WAS " but what he is "now" .

If elena feels that Vicky is a changed man,then let her suit herself.

to me Vicky not respecting sona does not hold so much importance, he had always been like that. he doesn't feel the need to show any respect towards her and most importantly he gets away with it. Dev raising his voice has no meaning, after all sona is his wife and he will be cross or rather he has to be cross. But if Ishwari, neha or even RR objected to the way he was talking to sona, telling him that he needs to have a basic decorum when speaking to a lady ... yup then it makes some sense.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Honestly if this turns out to be a clich track of Vicky planning a revenge on Elina... then yawn..puke.. from me.

But if it's to show how a man must support his wife irrespective of his social position, I am all for it. Lets face it, no one respects Vicky, but he will make sure everyone respects Elina. Common Vicky don't fail me... 🤣

BTW someone pointed out that Vicky Elna will stay where their parents stay and I agree.

If no one is bothered about having them stand on their own feet, why should they.

Probably the money is for honeymoon 😆 ... I'd say go for it. At least some one is putting it to good use
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

I am not saying that Dev as Vicky's employer should have any influence on Vicky's decision to marry nor Sonakshi can tell whom Elena should or shouldn't marry. But Elena got married as per wishes and came to live in the cousin's house (Dixit mansion is not Vicky's house) whom she lied to. All I wanted to say is that if she has enough independence to get married out of her own will, then she should have enough self-respect to live somewhere else but under Sona's husband's roof. just because vicky and elena married, they are going to go away from their parents right. As long as his parents stay there, elena will continue to stay with his family. It is not for dev or even ishwari to object, but RR and mamaji who need to object.
Coming to independence part, i would prefer if both Vicky and Elena start to pay their expenses for staying in Dixit mansion. like vicky said, if he starts to return the money that he emblezzed, i will appreciate him no matter whatever be his character.

It's like if a landlord objects a tenant to have a pet, the tenant says that the landlord has no right to tell him whether to have a pet or not and gets a pet. But expects to continue to stay at the same place instead of finding alternative accommodation.

That's my point. Take your decision where the roof is owned by you and you earn your own way. You can't take your own decisions under someone else's roof. To me landlord needs to put in the condition even before renting out, if the tenant already has a pet then it will become his choice if wants to rent the place or not. in case if the landlord is imposing this condition after the tenant moved in and later decides to have a pet, then yes i will say the landlord cannot dictate the terms . He might own the place but does not own the people staying in the place nor their choices.

Regarding Vicky, yes, Elena can fall in love with him. But I can't justify hurting and betraying people who loved her for much longer for a love she knew for much less time. I did not justify Dev's behaviour either. If you recall I blamed both Dev and Sonakshi at that time. if you can recollect while celebrating dev's birthday bijoy did remark that he will never have any further relations with the dixits. so i dont see any way where anyone in The bose's family would have accepted if she confessed.

Elena could have talked to at least her own parents who had never met Vicky and hence weren't prejudiced against him. But she kept them in the dark as well. It was betrayal, pure and simple. her parents might not have met vicky but still they would value asha and bijoy's opinion and for sure will turn against the alliance. To me, I would say Sona was not wise for once, I dont say her trusting Elena is wrong, but her not trying to find the depth of the feeling is surely wrong. if you can see elena is a very bubbly girl and since sona advised the breakup, she was somewhat aloof with her. this should have ring some bell and atleast sona should have open up to DADA.


Now as an employer Dev may not have any say in Vicky's life but 1. He can fire/demote him for embezzling money and b. Fire him for insulting his wife. That Dev can do. The reason Vicky does not feel the need to respect Sona is the reason no one in Dixit house feels the need to show respect to Sona. Because 1. there is no negative consequences and 2. Dev most of the time remains silent. The way he reacted today had he reacted every time someone disrespects his wife whoever that person may be, no one would have the guts to insult Sona.

fire him for insulting his wife, sorry i dont agree profession and personal life should be different. but yes fire for money embezzlement, bring it on.Yup, the dixits behave with sona that way only because neither Dev nor even Sona take a stand for themselves. Dev needs to draw the line, but at the same time, sona should stop accepting to be a punch bag. People only value you if you value yourself.
I am glad that Dev is slowing coming out of the shell and trying to reason out with both Neha and RR atleast on few incidents, but yeah he has a looong way to go.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: JShukla

Honestly if this turns out to be a clichd track of Vicky planning a revenge on Elina... then aywn..puke.. from me.

But if it's to show how a man must support his wife irrespective of his social position, I am all for it. Lets face it, no one respects Vicky, but he will make sure everyone respects Elina. Common Vicky don't fail me... 🤣


I would still say this is a good track. it is an eye opener for people like Elena out there to think twice before taking the plunge.
again an eye opener for people like sona who try to hide the mistakes of their siblings that at times it is always essential that we confide in atleast one member from our family while doing such things.
eye opener for people like Bijoy who always feel that their kids are unique and not prone to make mistakes. like I said, Elena had her own share of pitfalls even before the vicky fiasco, but no one ever tried to be strict with her or correct her that life is not always a bed of roses.

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