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ltelidevara

@ltelidevara

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Posted: 8 years ago

Dev 's mother Iswari Dikshit played by one of the greatest actresses of Television Supriyaji.

I am sure Supriyaji will never agree to play the role if it crosses all the limits and reaches a stage where there is no redemption at all.

Going by the initial promos Supriyaji appeared as a stern dignified and determined lady who has her own reasons to reject Sonakshi's candidature as Dev's future bride.

But CVs drastically changed the original theme that mainly revolves round how the leads convince

her to accept their relationship.

As per what they showed till now Iswari is hurt when her son hid his affair with her nutritionist.

She intentionally overlooked the incidents where Dev emerged completely besotted with Sona.

Even when she was told by Dev about his choice she pretended to be happy but not genuinely satisfied with his selection.

So Why is Iswari against Sona? She who silently accepted Natasha's alliance could not do so this time.Many are of the opinion she agreed due to Dev's business concern. I disagree with it.

Iswari is not the kind who would put money above everything.Then why did she do so?

In my view Iswari found Natasha apt for Dev.

Natasha is calm,polite non interfering and devoid of arrogance. Iswari 's hold on Iswari Nivas would have been safe if Natasha entered in Dev's life.Since it is an arranged marriage there is no chance of Dev going head over heels for Natasha.So Ishwari's place is safe in her house and in Dev's heart.

Sona is different. She is judgemental,confident, and individualistic.,She just bothers about every thing around . She can influence any one with her logic and conviction. Most important she is loved by Dev,madly.

Iswari has no problem with Sona as a nutritionist.But as a Bahu she may change the equations in Iswari Nivas and in Dev's heart.Iswari is also miffed with Sona for having the affair right under her nose.All these aspects contributed to her negativity towards Dev Sona alliance

More over Sona is a Bengali. I remember an entire film revolved round this aspect Ek Duje Ke Liye

But fortunately Iswari did not raise this issue ever.

How much right A mother has in marriage matters?

If I look around I found more than seventy Five percent men abide by their mother's choice.

Even in love marriages boys and girls are particularly opting for marriage by approval method so that they can lead a peaceful life post marriage.

A mother is given the right to say no to a girl if she doesn't find the match perfect.No one can deny that right from her.To stand by her opinion or not depends on the boy or girl.

So why should Iswari be blamed if she disapproved Sona? She has every right to do so.

Despite that Iswari tried to convince herself and accept Sona. For Dev.

She would have reconciled had she been given more time and space.

But Dev and Sona failed in this aspect.Sona directly tried to make her point couple of times.

Iswari got pressurised blamed herself and took pills overdose by mistake.

After Dev broke up Iswari hoped that he will forget everything.But Dev just went downhill,

Iswari never wished bad for Sona. Her sending Ritwik's Rishta proves it.

Now when she realised Dev and Sona could not live apart and survive she is trying hard to unite them

Her efforts are genuine and heartfelt. No malice she has.

Supriyaji's body language will reveal if Iswari is manipulative this time.

No such nauces were shown

Iswari the mother is honest in her attempts. I don't think she should say sorry for not accepting Sona.

Every mother has the right to do so. There is no rule that if the boy loves a girl the mother should approve. There are many cases where the lovers drift apart when either of the parents refused to budge. But here the situation is different. Dev is not strong enough to survive without Sona and Iswari is trying her best to get her son the love of his life.

So I won't suspect Iswari's intentions unless CVs again do injustice to Supriyaji by showing Iswari grey and negative.

I believe Janani Janmanhumi cha Swargadapi Gariyasi. I belong to the country where mother and motherland are considered greater than heaven.

A country where Maryada Purushottam Ram lived forteen years in the forest to honour his step mother Kaikeyi's word.

A country where my Arjun bent his head before his mother's order to share his wife.

So despite her merits and demerits Iswari Dikshit is a mother in true sense and I respect her without remorse. I understand you Iswari Dikshit. Hundred percent.

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sappushivu

@sappushivu

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Posted: 8 years ago

Great post !! loved what you wrote abt the concept of mothers in India..

However , i cannot agree with your justifying Ishwari, though i totally respect your POV.. unlike the mothers in our society who reject girls coz they are looking out for someone perfect for their Son, here Ishwari worked the other way round..she rejected a perfect girl coz she wanted someone imperfect for her Son, someone who cld never tke her position in her family...she din want someone perfect enough to steal her limelight so she was actually being selfish...all she cared was about herself.

And even now, i do not know why u feel that she is being genuine..if she was, she wldnt bother a girl this way..a women who genuinely understands another wldnt ever force her into a relation..she wld convince the girl and then wait for a positive response but Ishwari is hell bent on making Sona agree to the marriage..she is emotionally blackmailing the whole family and she wld continue doing it untill they get fed up and agree to her..its so evident that she just wants to rise in front of her son.she wants to get back to the same godly position she had in Dev's eyes and she knows she can only reach there by getting Sona back to Dev and for this she wld go to any extreme...what she is doing has nothing to do with getting back Dev's happiness but its all abt her getting back her position in Devs life..so that tomorrow she can brag abt one more reason why Dev should idolise her..after all she bought Sona back to him ! and by showing the toy promo, even the C.VS made it clear that Ishwari is still the same old woman who just wants to remove the guilt of spoiling her sons life.

This is just my pov ! :)

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ltelidevara

@ltelidevara

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ltelidevara
Thank you

Actually I am not expecting Forum members to come and support my view. I observed a lot of negativity towards Iswari's ch. So when you came forward I was a little bit surprised. But I cherish your support Thanq again.

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ltelidevara

@ltelidevara

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sappushivu
Great post !! loved what you wrote abt the concept of mothers in India..
However , i cannot agree with your justifying Ishwari, though i totally respect your POV.. unlike the mothers in our society who reject girls coz they are looking out for someone perfect for their Son, here Ishwari worked the other way round..she rejected a perfect girl coz she wanted someone imperfect for her Son, someone who cld never tke her position in her family...she din want someone perfect enough to steal her limelight so she was actually being selfish...all she cared was about herself.

And even now, i do not know why u feel that she is being genuine..if she was, she wldnt bother a girl this way..a women who genuinely understands another wldnt ever force her into a relation..she wld convince the girl and then wait for a positive response but Ishwari is hell bent on making Sona agree to the marriage..she is emotionally blackmailing the whole family and she wld continue doing it untill they get fed up and agree to her..its so evident that she just wants to rise in front of her son.she wants to get back to the same godly position she had in Dev's eyes and she knows she can only reach there by getting Sona back to Dev and for this she wld go to any extreme...what she is doing has nothing to do with getting back Dev's happiness but its all abt her getting back her position in Devs life..so that tomorrow she can brag abt one more reason why Dev should idolise her..after all she bought Sona back to him ! and by showing the toy promo, even the C.VS made it clear that Ishwari is still the same old woman who just wants to remove the guilt of spoiling her sons life.

This is just my pov ! :)

Thanks for hailing my concept. However I disagree with you on Iswari. In my view Sona herself gave way to Iswari to believe that she is still in love with Dev. Case in point the way she ditched her Fianc and brought Dev home on engagement day. No girl who genuinely wished to move on will attempt such disgraceful thing at all.Had she gone ahead with her engagement Iswari wouldn't have ventured to visit Sona and try to convince her. Sona's behaviour only is inconsistent. As for Iswari's wish to get her son worship her,What is wrong with that? A mother has the right to get worshipped if not for other things just for giving birth bearing the child nine months in her womb. That is another birth to her. So I see no lapse here on part of Iswari.

Ofcourse now the society is changing. Mothers are guided towards old age homes and wives are ruling the roost.Anyway we look at Iswari Dikshit with different mind sets. It's OK

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ltelidevara

@ltelidevara

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ltelidevara
Thanks for hailing my concept. However I disagree with you on Iswari. In my view Sona herself gave way to Iswari to believe that she is still in love with Dev. Case in point the way she ditched her Fianc and brought Dev home on engagement day. No girl who genuinely wished to move on will attempt such disgraceful thing at all.Had she gone ahead with her engagement Iswari wouldn't have ventured to visit Sona and try to convince her. Sona's behaviour only is inconsistent. As for Iswari's wish to get her son worship her,What is wrong with that? A mother has the right to get worshipped if not for other things just for giving birth bearing the child nine months in her womb. That is another birth to her. So I see no lapse here on part of Iswari.
Ofcourse now the society is changing. Mothers are guided towards old age homes and wives are ruling the roost.Anyway we look at Iswari Dikshit with different mind sets. It's OK
I feel perfection I depends upon discretion of the person . A person so perfect for you may not be perfect for me.God created world with different tastes.Loke Bhinna ruchih. Sona is perfect in your view but she is imperfect for me. Likewise for Iswari Sona is not perfect Bahu for her reasons. I don't agree with your view she doesn't want the best for her son. If so she wouldn't have accepted Natasha who is more than perfect.

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sappushivu

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Posted: 8 years ago

i explained what i had to...abt Natasha..i wldnt say much coz you urself mentioned in ur post that you don agree to people saying she agreed coz it involved a business deal so there is nopoint in me explaining the same all over again..i jus wld like to say that she never whole heartedy accepted Natasha...Dev was never in love with Natasha hence she din have any reason yet to feel insecure..wen i mentioned perfect..i meant perfect for Dev , not for me as a person..Sona has her own flaws..Dev considers her perfect..Which was d reason he was head over heels in love wth her..whereas he was never in love wth natasha..but still Ishwari was always uncomfortable wen natasha talked abt herself as the daughter in law ( if u rem the phone call scene i am tallng abt ) or even the dinner date..thenway ishwari was asking how it went..she din seem very pleased..anyways..no point explaining...you are right in ur perception..i feel i am right in mine..so its perfectly fine !! :)

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Anisa

@AnnzSageflower7

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Posted: 8 years ago

I am in two minds about agreeing or disagreeing...😆

I agree that Ishwari is doing her best to fix things for Dev. SHe feels she is guilty of meddling and forcing Dev to break up with Sonakshi, and genuinely wants to make up for it. Guilt can make people do desperate things to compensate for the loss/damage caused. If she wants to plead with the Bose family, she can. Nobody but Bijoy was rude to Ishwari. Everyone gave her a chance to speak and listened to her and told her that they thought Bijoy would never agree. Simple.

I didn't feel Ishwari was meddling. She has always tried her best for Dev. Plus Sonakshi is not a opportunistic girl who would take advantage of Ishwari's pleading to gain the upper hand.

The issue here is not that Sonakshi is being difficult. She feels she may not fit in the Dixit house, because Dev has not explained anything to her other than "Ma said she agrees now.."

Recapping his words at break up:

"Ma will never be happy with our relationship"

"Ma is in this terrible state because of our relationship"

"We can never be. We must separate."

As a girl, if you were given these words, and only these words, with no further explanation, wouldnt you play these words over and over in your head, working out possibilities of why and whats and hows. trying to understand why he didn't even try to convince his mother about her?

What is so bad about Sonakshi?

The reason Sonakshi is refusing is:

1. Bijoy is angry. Sonakshi knows her father's approval is paramount. He will come around, because he was the first to like Dev a lot. Ans as seen in precap, Bijoy is already in a coaxable state by Asha and Sona.

2. Dev needs to repair the damage he made. Some more groveling and grand gestures. The problem is between Sona and Dev, and they need to work it out.

Ishwari has every right to have the devotion of her son. Her relationship with her son is separate from Dev's with Sona. One flourishing does not mean the diminishing of the other. I'm not being naive, but its people's perspectives that influence the opinion that the love changes.

A mother can't be as close as a wife can.

A wife can't do for a man what his mother can.

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coolbird

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Posted: 8 years ago

Just another perspective...

Ishwari's love and emotions for Dev cannot be questioned, but unintentionally has always been glorified as Dev's God, by her brother and her daughters, and hence whatever she did for him could never be wrong. To be worshipped as God, is not the thing here, so much as she believing herself to be God to Dev.

I want to say, she is being a mother the only way she knows, but I am wrong, cos she is not the same with her daughters, her attitude to them was just that of a mother, she did not stake claim on them as their God. They knew of her obsession of Dev, and were always vary of the fact that if someone got close to him, she would show her claws.

Even before Sonakshi came into the picture, she had problems of sharing Dev with anybody. Remember the times when GKB used to bring proposals for Dev, she always made up excuses that he was not ready for marriage.

When Natasha's father asked for Dev's hand in marriage for his daughter, she felt honoured and Dev too asked her permission, so she felt elevated.

Her problem with Sonakshi was that she was around and she did not see their love blooming, so every bit of nuance or info she got about Sonakshi, she built it up against her. Her statements how Dev liked food cooked by her, or only she knew how to look after him, did not permit her to look beyond, and wherein Sonakshi had slipped into her place. So when she started feeling insecure knowing Sona loved her Dev, she just wanted to eliminate her totally. Her faith in her son that he would never go against her come what may, blinded her to manipulate her machinations. Inspite of what she did, her Dev never found fault in her, and it motivated her to go on to the point of taking those sleeping pills, removing all traces of Sona so that Dev even by mistake did not think of her, etc. All this to get Dev to toe in line with her wishes.

Her love for Dev is to a height of madness, where all were scared of telling her the truth, and here I mean, even her brother and Neha, who knew exactly what she was doing.

Her kindness to find a groom for Sonakshi, did not stem from doing a good deed to her cos Sonakshi was good, but from the POV that she would be inaccessible to Dev. Mind you, she did not look out for a bride for him.

When she saw Dev falling apart, and her brother blaming her for his state, she knew she had to redeem herself to Dev, so that he starts adoring her as before. She wants that Dev back. Her going behind Sonakshi and her family is only because she thinks her Dev cannot be denied anything. What he wants he should get, and if he cannot get it, she will make all efforts and get it for him.

I suspect her genuinity about her understanding Dev and Sonakshi love for each other and hence helping them come together, I just feel she wants her position with Dev back and is giving him what he wants, similar to that of a toy. In doing that, she thinks he will again believe that only his wonderful mom knows him and his happiness.

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ltelidevara

@ltelidevara

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Posted: 8 years ago

Annzsage Flower 7

Last two lines are Epic. True facts.

I made the post solely to present Iswari's perspective.Her right to reject Sonakshi. I agree she is insecure whenever she is faced with Dev's marriage issue. WITH Sona the insecurity multiplies because she is loved by Dev.With Natasha the insecurity factor is less. She is not the loved one.

My point here is as a mother she has her right to accept or reject a girl for her son.

You have analysed Sona's dilemma to agree with the proposal. I say Iswari also must have done this analysis when she realised Dev selected Sona as her life partner.

The lines you gave uttered by Dev during break up causing Sona to rethink,I may give Sona's lines after break up so many are there. She says I and you won't exist now but just couple of days back asks Dev to marry her at once. In my view both are faulty,confused. Just because she is a girl I won't give her added advantage. More so because she willingly became responsible for the cancellation of her engagement.

Iswari could come to Bose House because she witnessed on Engagement Day how desparate both are in love and can not survive without each other. All said and done at this moment both the parties should forget and work towards uniting the leads.

My only point is Iswari genuinely wishes to see them happy. Not for any selfish reasons. Atleast that is what I understood seeing Iswari Dikshit at Bose House . Supriyaji is just outstanding and conveyed the honesty and sincerity of Iswari Dikshit so well.