Vijay's Villu going to be Another Hit! - Page 2

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: jenim

Which brings us to another thing: If it is the Director/Story ownership route that we are taking (that is actor has nothing to do with it) why did Vijay decline to play the role that Cheran played in Autograph? Since it went on to become a block buster, Vijay had mentioned in several interviews that it was a huge error on his part to have missed the role, when Cheran offered it to him.

omg are serious that Vijay was given the role for autograph of Chearn😕.......Urggggggh why misss a chance like Vijay why.if i was given the chance i would have took it😆😆

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kutty Simba

omg are serious that Vijay was given the role for autograph of Chearn😕.......Urggggggh why misss a chance like Vijay why.if i was given the chance i would have took it😆😆

See.. you know better, Kutti Simba 😆😆


Edited by jenim - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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And also the commercial movies which Vijay chooses to act claiming that's the sure-fire way to make profits for the producer... almost half his movies are total flops, which end up making the producer "Bondi"!

Bottomline: Not all unique stories are flops, not all commercial movies with such storylines are hits. That's why it would be wise for an actor who's been around for almost 16 years in the industry to be a little daring!

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Posted: 17 years ago
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You quoted mine twice but missed to see the key word " I said ALMOST all unique movies..." I never said "all"...So, I was not making any amendments..From the start of the discussion, I maintained that there are some percentage of movies which are really unique.

Most actors do give suggestions during story discussions but they do not contribute alot (of course except for Simbu, who kind of completely takesover the original director😉). Also, I heard from interviews that usually Vijay does not interfer in the director's work. so yeah... 😕

Of course, you have every right to comment, I did not say you should do not. My point is that an actor consciously decides that he does not want to take any risks, then no point forcing him to do so or criticize that opinion of his. 😊

Frankly, I cant imagine Vijay doing Cheran's role in Autograph. Vijay already established himself as a commericial hero then, so I really cant imagine Vijay doing Cheran's role. Anyways, Vijay was not the only one who refused to do Cheran's role in Autograph. There were few others and when there was no other way, Cheran did himself right? I am not too sure, but that is what I heard. 🤔

Again, I never said commerical movies garantees money to the producers. It was Vijay's POV that I repeated. Thats all. Also, I never said offbeat movies dont do well, when I was taking about Kamal's offbeat movies, I said that comparitively, Rajini's commericials were big hits. Thats all. Personally, I prefer story with logic and good characterisations. So in no way I am for commericial movies. 😊

BUt my point is that, Vijay does Not want to take risks. He has an opinion that commericial movies suits him the best and he decided on that route and embraked on that. He said that in interviews that it was his conscious decision to do commericial movies. I dont see anything wrong with that.

As much as I want him to be daring, I feel that many would not be able to accept Vijay in really different roles as he himself established a formula for his movies. With Surya, Vikram, Ajit, Kamal, Bharat it works because right from the start of their career, they had a mix films but Vijay was not like that. So, I dont really blame him for remaining in his safe zone. There are actors who managed it in this industry without experimenting much, so why not Vijay. There will always be some actors who want to remain in the safe zone and do same kind of stories and there are audience who like it so why not. I mean, when Bharathiraja was making really lovely movies, there was TR who was making melodramatic movies and remained successful. So, ya..😛

Like you I also wish he gets different kind of stories but frankly, I really cant imagine him in really kind of roles. Wait, I cant even imagine him in the top class business man's role with classy suits like Surya in Gajini. If he can break that huge circle he build around himself, then probably he can, But i really dont see it happening.😊 But I still like him for giving some really entertaining movies. I love his comedy timing and dance.
Edited by Je_aime - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Every day, I learn something new..
So, Almost ALL = Some!

hmmmmm....

In my general understanding "Almost All = ALL except Some",
but somehow your understanding of it is:
Almost All = Some !!!

I don't think I missed it even the first time. But I'm not ready to pursue this grammar/ what it means issue again.

As for the rest of your post, I can just say one thing. We are going around in circles. It is now apparent from your post, that you probably belong to the class of moviegoers who are happy seeing Vijay in his usual roles - while there are some others, who would like him to experiment with his roles, and expect a little more from him. And these are the ones who are complaining about the lack of variety in his roles.

It is only with Tirumalai, that he has taken the commercial route. Not before that. Since the advent of his career, he had done a variety of roles, like some of the other actors mentioned, although he may not be as talented as them. It is a pity that he does not deviate from his usual routine the last few years - even his rival Ajith has ventured into doing some, like Varalaru and made it a blockbuster.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Je_aime

Also, I heard from interviews that usually Vijay does not interfer in the director's work. so yeah... 😕

That's not what I heard!

My point is that an actor consciously decides that he does not want to take any risks, then no point forcing him to do so or criticize that opinion of his. 😊

Why not?

Frankly, I cant imagine Vijay doing Cheran's role in Autograph. Vijay already established himself as a commericial hero then, so I really cant imagine Vijay doing Cheran's role.

It is because of this halo around the head, the "establishing" factor that is been referred to here, that we don't get to see his real talent as an ACTOR. I can imagine Vijay doing the lead role in Autograph. Just that he has not really ventured into doing something like that. Until such time he does so, we'll never find out whether it suits him or not.

Again, I never said commerical movies garantees money to the producers. It was Vijay's POV that I repeated. Thats all. Also, I never said offbeat movies dont do well, when I was taking about Kamal's offbeat movies, I said that comparitively, Rajini's commericials were big hits. Thats all. Personally, I prefer story with logic and good characterisations. So in no way I am for commericial movies. 😊

I never said "you " said any of these. I was responding to your quoting Vijay.

BUt my point is that, Vijay does Not want to take risks. He has an opinion that commericial movies suits him the best and he decided on that route and embraked on that. He said that in interviews that it was his conscious decision to do commericial movies. I dont see anything wrong with that.

May be it's you... but not all of us think that way though!

Like you I also wish he gets different kind of stories but frankly, I really cant imagine him in really kind of roles. Wait, I cant even imagine him in the top class business man's role with classy suits like Surya in Gajini.

Yes.. the image thing that he has created is true.
But our point is, it is upto him to break it and not blame it/qualify it on making profits for the producer. And that's the point I was trying to make earlier. Not all his commercial movies made in this belief, are successful either!

Edited by jenim - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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When did i Say Almost all = some...I said, almost all are same except for some which are unique. " ...which is exctly what you said. Guess, I am also learning on the art of picking on one word and make it a big discussion. also i didnt know sarcasim is actually advice.

Well, I want to end this now. I am okay with him playing different roles BUT it is not happening because he decided it that way. As such as you give him mindblowing advice to venture into something new, he does not seem to take that route. He is happy with his way. How one wants to take their career is up to them. Well, now even our arguments is not going to make any difference to him or his career. Bye!
Edited by Je_aime - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Je_aime

When did i Say Almost all = some...I said, almost all are same except for some which are unique. " ...which is exctly what you said.

Which is so not what I said!!
I said I won't discuss this further, but you are misquoting me and sti
ll have misunderstood what I've been saying. Sorry.. therefore I'm forced..

And I said:
Almost all unique movies have a DIFFERENT storyline, than some (like ParuthiVeeran) which may be slightly similar to the storyline in question (Villu). I can't make this any clearer. May be, some others will be able to understand.

Guess, I am also learning on the art of picking on one word and make it a big discussion.

This discussion would not have begun, if you knew that you didn't mean "Almost All", when you said "almost all".

Yes.. you too have made this a discussion, with that one word.

Well, I want to end this now. I am okay with him playing different roles BUT it is not happening because he decided it that way. As such as you give him mindblowing advice to venture into something new, he does not seem to take that route. He is happy with his way. How one wants to take their career is up to them.

Sure!! Top actors don't come around visiting such forums for career advice, whether or not I/you/anyone else wish(es) to do that! And if you thought my posts or the previous posters comments on this storyline or his choice of character, were meant to be free career advice to Vijay....
that thought...Beats me!

Well, now even our arguments is not going to make any difference to him or his career. Bye!

Absolutely.. such forums are there, for people to vent/rant their beliefs/praise/criticism for issues/topics that are being discussed --- not to be taken as a career advice center for their fav Stars!

Edited by jenim - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Ok.. you have edited your post..

BTW, What sarcasm? What advice?

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Posted: 17 years ago
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I think its 2nd time they changed the title 😕

About Vijay discussions, he said he choosed the commercial path coz it work well for him, but I remember he said he may try out different on a later stage of his carrier, so who knows, if his movies continue to be flops he may change his path 😉 he also said something about his fans doesnt want to see him look different...he took wrong there...many of his fans want him taking up something challenging 😊

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