Hum Hai Is Pal Yahan...7/17/08

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...jaane ho kal kahan.
Hum mile na mile,
Hum rahe na rahe.
Rahengi sada yaha,
Pyaar ki ye dastaan,
Sunegi sada jise,
Ye zameen aasman.

I know this song is a direct lift from the show itself, but I couldn't help but think how well it fit Premeer today. As it was played in the background today while they were talking of seperation and unity, the words of the song made me see the entire conversation in a different light. This was not the original song I had chosen for today, but after watching the scene again, and writing my thoughts out, I had to change the song I had originally chosen (which was a much more positive song) to this one, which unfortunately, makes sense, though, its sad as hell....keep reading, you'll see.

**No complaints about the recap today, thank god.**

The first scene itself put a smile on my face today. All the memories of the mannats and dhaga tying yesterday came back...🥰

As they walked, gazing at one another again, it was as if time had stopped in its tracks just for them. As if the world melted into nothing...it was just him, her, and the beautiful moonlit night. But why did it seem to me, that even then, voh dono itne paas ho kar bhi ek dusre se door the. Did anyone else feel it too?

I found it funny that Prem asked her "tum aise kyoun dekh rahi ho"...arre Prem, aap bhi toh uski taraf aise hi dekh rahe ho...toh voh kya apna muh pher le aapse? 😆

Heer's response, of course, was cliche, but, so very sad at the same time. She's mentally preparing herself for the fact that they won't be together again after this.

And Raks, with his next words, I was convinced, that no, he didn't here Heer/Meher talking the other day. Sorry dear. His "main kahin jaa raha houn, kya?" indicated his confusion at her thoughts. But, his "nahi aaj hamari akhri mulakaat hai" was enough to worry me just a little, that indeed, these two will be seperated...

"Rishton mein akhri mulakaat nahi, akhri lamha hota hai." How very true. I loved this. Its those moments...the small, fleeting, special moments between us and our loved ones that really count. Those few seconds in time that seem to last forever in our hearts, in our memories. She too was only trying to capture the moment then - one that time would so quickly snatch from her grasp. She, with Her Prem and their eternal love, at God's doorstep, on a moonlit night, where the stars are shining bright on account of their oneness, their togetherness for the moment...."vahi lamha chura rahi hoon tumhari aankhon se"...the moment in which his eyes were reflecting the depths of his love for her...which, according to her, she may never see again.

And then, the tears in her eyes, which he says with conviction that he wishes to never see again.

This brought tears to my eyes, tears that I couldn't stop from falling...and I couldn't figure out why. I know Heer's not going to get the chance to leave Prem the way she had planned, but I can't help but think that they will seperate somehow, and perhaps this will be the last moment between them, for a long time to come...I hate to think what the storm will bring...the mere thought of it sends shivers down my spine...

When Heer told Prem about sacha pyaar next, it didn't help my already wavering emotions. She was standing there, telling him she would leave him for his happiness...that they would seperate because of the depth of their love for one another. And then it hit me. True love must overcome so many obstacles...its not easy, because if it were, we would fail to realize its value.

Prem's rebuttal should have calmed my fears and my tears, but it only worsened them. He speaks of a love that can stand the test of seperation, a love that is above all else, a love which even the heavens bow down to. He speaks of a love that live every test, every promise...a love that will break all barriers and rise above it all. He speaks of how despite the obstacles, despite the hurdles, they will come out of it in the end, together.

As Heer speaks of seperation, Prem speaks of unison.

But then, Prem says something bone chilling..."Hum Rahenge". I see Estee's dark shadows now. No, I don't think Prem will die, but I do think these two will lose one another for some time. "Hum Rahenge"...another words, as the song in the background suggests, humara pyaar rahega...."hum rahe na rahe, rahengi sada yahan, pyaar ki ye dastaan...." Ok Estee, now I'm fretting. Its official, Premeer will be seperated....and I fret that it will be for longer than I can take.

Was it just me or did anyone else think that they needed a long hugging session then? I mean, the gazing deep into one another's eyes was good too, but I really think they needed to hug....or maybe it was just me that needed the hug. Confused

It was heartbreaking to see here remove Prem's hands from her face...and then hold them tight in her own hands....she couldn't even look at him anymore...her pain had exceeded it bounds...the tears had broken through the dam and were now flowing uncontrollably...hers, and mine. Prem's consoling words came just in time...for me anyway. Khwaja ji's darbar...yes....thats where they were...so nothing bad would happen, right? Everythinig would be okay, right?

Estee, as always, you were right. Ullu does NOT deserve my pity. I was raging today when he said he only had 4 children. I found though that I was more upset with myself for thinking he could redeem himself, than I was with Ullu himself for his actions today. I applaud the babaji though, for telling Ullu that no matter what he says, Prem is his sir ka taaj, and always will be. This Ullu needs to have some sense knocked into him. Staying true to his friend or not, this man just does not deserve anyones sympathy.

Loved the anger that Preet shot in Ullu's direction here.

I was so upset with the conversation that had taken place between Premeer and then, to top it off, Ullu's repeated self-centered idiocy, that I couldn't even properly laugh my heart out when Prem went running to find the picture of him and Ullu that he kept in his wallet. First it was just a picture of Ullu...when did it get changed to one of the two of them? Aaww...my Prem who's too perfect even for his own good. 😆🥰

(BTW, I occurred to me in this scene how full, and beautiful Harshad's eyelashes are...🥰)

It was heartbreaking again, to see Prem walk away from her (that too, with such haste), and she just looked on and cried as if he was leaving her forever....

The woman that came to talk to Heer was just weird. First of all, I want to know how she knew Heer was crying for her beloved? Heer could have been crying for her parents for all she knows. I mean, my god, coincidence or what? It annoyed me that she just assumed that Heer was crying for her lost beloved.
And what was the look on Heer's face when the woman was done talking? Did the woman just vanish into thin air or something? Heer looked as if the woman had just disappeared....Confused

Oh the flashbacks...the flashback of the wedding fiasco when Prem stood up for her and told everyone that she wasn't alone...that he was with her...the flashback of Prem proposing to her...the flashback of Premeer walking hand in hand as they left the Juneja house that unfortunate night...the flashback of Premeer in the rain when she goes to give him his file...and at last, the flashback of the two of them crying in the park...
Because this is all Heer had left now...those memories...those moments in time, which she would collect, one by one, and hold in her eyes, in her heart and soul, now and forever...

And now that Prem was gone, now that they were seperated, she had but one dua...for him...to be reunited with his family. God it was heartwrenching...she would now live in pain, with not but memories of him, and every day, she will pray that he is with his family, and happy.

God, this sounds so familiar. Didn't Prem agree to the same circumstances just before he was to marry Ash? Didn't he too say he would live in pain as long as she was happy?

It surprised me to see that Prem walked by his family and didn't see them there...

Ash is clearly getting on Preet's nerves. It annoys me to think that she expects Preet to forget about Prem and concentrate on her. Arre, Lakshman ne kabhi Ram ko chod kar kisi aur ke baare mein socha tha kya? Idiot.

Again won't comment on RR...he's not worth my time...though I will say that I wasn't at all paying attention to his 1 minute segment in today's epi, so I couldn't comment anyway b/c I don't know what they were talking about. All I saw was that he heard news of the storm in Ajmer and that the Juneja's were there...eh...like I said, not worth the time. Wasted screen time if you ask me.

The rest of the show was a drag...didn't care for Ash/DJ's conversation. Why is this Ash hellbent on going and praying with Preet? And of course, the idiot has to tell her mother that Preet saw Prem...here we go...round one million and a half of DJ and her stupid plotting. Confused

Next week, the storm is sure to bring revelations. Its just sad to think that the one scene today may be the last time that we see Premeer together for a long time to come. I hate to say it guys, but at the end of the day, this is Balaji we're talking about. They're known to seperate the lead protagonists for months at a time...Confused

I look forward to the revelations next week, but am very disturbed with the thought that Premeer may not be in the same frame together for a long time to come....

Sorry to end on such a sad note...

BTW, yeh Meher kahan chali gayi? She went to go wash up with Prem, and Prem never brought her back...?!?!?!

Love,
~Payal




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Posted: 17 years ago
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Payal..... I completly agree!! I think me and you are the only ones who anyalize the PH scenes in such detial!.....*hi5* Though mine was short today....was in a rush!!
OMG, it was a fantastic scene, and the song was what stood out the most.....WOW, I love this song!! Don't give a cap about the rest of the epi, was ROFLing the whole time!!!
Amazing Anylasis!!
Shabz
P.S. Don't worry about the negatives, concentrate on the good things!
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Originally posted by: shabo24

Payal..... I completly agree!! I think me and you are the only ones who anyalize the PH scenes in such detial!.....*hi5* Though mine was short today....was in a rush!!

OMG, it was a fantastic scene, and the song was what stood out the most.....WOW, I love this song!! Don't give a cap about the rest of the epi, was ROFLing the whole time!!!
Amazing Anylasis!!
Shabz
P.S. Don't worry about the negatives, concentrate on the good things!



Aw, Hi Shabz, dear!

Good to see you agree with me on the Premeer scene today...others disagree, and I wonder if I've misunderstood everything....

The song was perfect, and I was fine until I saw the episode a second time, while I was writing this, and then the song played and it changed my entire perspective on everything.

The rest, was indeed, too funny - well, except for Ullu who enraged me again today. HATE HIM...

Lekin ab lets see what happens next week...I hope to God I'm wrong and that Estee and Sid are right...

*fingers crossed*

Glad you enjoyed it dear.
Love,
~P
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Originally posted by: IndianPari


...jaane ho kal kahan.
Hum mile na mile,
Hum rahe na rahe.
Rahengi sada yaha,
Pyaar ki ye dastaan,
Sunegi sada jise,
Ye zameen aasman.

I know this song is a direct lift from the show itself, but I couldn't help but think how well it fit Premeer today. As it was played in the background today while they were talking of seperation and unity, the words of the song made me see the entire conversation in a different light. This was not the original song I had chosen for today, but after watching the scene again, and writing my thoughts out, I had to change the song I had originally chosen (which was a much more positive song) to this one, which unfortunately, makes sense, though, its sad as hell....keep reading, you'll see.

ohh yes...even i loved da song..actuali dis one's evergreen..every1 likes it..i havent seen any complaints none whtsoever on dis one😉

**No complaints about the recap today, thank god.**

The first scene itself put a smile on my face today. All the memories of the mannats and dhaga tying yesterday came back...🥰

As they walked, gazing at one another again, it was as if time had stopped in its tracks just for them. As if the world melted into nothing...it was just him, her, and the beautiful moonlit night. But why did it seem to me, that even then, voh dono itne paas ho kar bhi ek dusre se door the. Did anyone else feel it too?

I thot Heer was too bzy tryn to capture her so-called last moments wid PremConfused😆


I found it funny that Prem asked her "tum aise kyoun dekh rahi ho"...arre Prem, aap bhi toh uski taraf aise hi dekh rahe ho...toh voh kya apna muh pher le aapse? 😆

Heer's response, of course, was cliche, but, so very sad at the same time. She's mentally preparing herself for the fact that they won't be together again after this.

And Raks, with his next words, I was convinced, that no, he didn't here Heer/Meher talking the other day. Sorry dear. His "main kahin jaa raha houn, kya?" indicated his confusion at her thoughts. But, his "nahi aaj hamari akhri mulakaat hai" was enough to worry me just a little, that indeed, these two will be seperated...

"Rishton mein akhri mulakaat nahi, akhri lamha hota hai." How very true. I loved this. Its those moments...the small, fleeting, special moments between us and our loved ones that really count. Those few seconds in time that seem to last forever in our hearts, in our memories. She too was only trying to capture the moment then - one that time would so quickly snatch from her grasp. She, with Her Prem and their eternal love, at God's doorstep, on a moonlit night, where the stars are shining bright on account of their oneness, their togetherness for the moment...."vahi lamha chura rahi hoon tumhari aankhon se"...the moment in which his eyes were reflecting the depths of his love for her...which, according to her, she may never see again.

And then, the tears in her eyes, which he says with conviction that he wishes to never see again.

This brought tears to my eyes, tears that I couldn't stop from falling...and I couldn't figure out why. I know Heer's not going to get the chance to leave Prem the way she had planned, but I can't help but think that they will seperate somehow, and perhaps this will be the last moment between them, for a long time to come...I hate to think what the storm will bring...the mere thought of it sends shivers down my spine...

When Heer told Prem about sacha pyaar next, it didn't help my already wavering emotions. She was standing there, telling him she would leave him for his happiness...that they would seperate because of the depth of their love for one another. And then it hit me. True love must overcome so many obstacles...its not easy, because if it were, we would fail to realize its value.

Prem's rebuttal should have calmed my fears and my tears, but it only worsened them. He speaks of a love that can stand the test of seperation, a love that is above all else, a love which even the heavens bow down to. He speaks of a love that live every test, every promise...a love that will break all barriers and rise above it all. He speaks of how despite the obstacles, despite the hurdles, they will come out of it in the end, together.

As Heer speaks of seperation, Prem speaks of unison.

But then, Prem says something bone chilling..."Hum Rahenge". I see Estee's dark shadows now. No, I don't think Prem will die, but I do think these two will lose one another for some time. "Hum Rahenge"...another words, as the song in the background suggests, humara pyaar rahega...."hum rahe na rahe, rahengi sada yahan, pyaar ki ye dastaan...." Ok Estee, now I'm fretting. Its official, Premeer will be seperated....and I fret that it will be for longer than I can take.

No, separation is one fing that I dont fing will happen, atleat nt rite now..or at the darga for tht matter..the omens set across by the baba and some of the earlier episodes hav directli hinted happy times...even what Prem said foretold waht was gna.he said "jahan lagey" ..note tht he didnt literalli speak of separation..."judaai hai agey wahan ek naya sangam hojata"...and u still fink dey will part?....wht now after the part..lallu takes da famili to canada and da show draws curtains😆..i bet the whole idea of dis dargah was to brin the identity and to show how heaven and hell will crack once again to ensure tht love stays united...lets just c wht happens..though i highli doubt any separation




Was it just me or did anyone else think that they needed a long hugging session then? I mean, the gazing deep into one another's eyes was good too, but I really think they needed to hug....or maybe it was just me that needed the hug. Confused

no it was me as wel..i kept pinnin..no dey will hug now..now now..bt it didnt happen😆


It was heartbreaking to see here remove Prem's hands from her face...and then hold them tight in her own hands....she couldn't even look at him anymore...her pain had exceeded it bounds...the tears had broken through the dam and were now flowing uncontrollably...I hers, and mine. Prem's consoling words came just in time...for me anyway. Khwaja ji's darbar...yes....thats where they were...so nothing bad would happen, right? Everythinig would be okay, right?

Exactli gurl...Everyfin will fall in plx and we will just c how..how love will triumph once again!!!



Next week, the storm is sure to bring revelations. Its just sad to think that the one scene today may be the last time that we see Premeer together for a long time to come. I hate to say it guys, but at the end of the day, this is Balaji we're talking about. They're known to seperate the lead protagonists for months at a time...Confused

I maintain wht i said..they wont separate liek disConfused.its gna be absurd and will nt even be in sync wid da dargah track bt ya if u say so..i will stick by the no expecation theoryConfusedConfused😆😆😆😉



I look forward to the revelations next week, but am very disturbed with the thought that Premeer may not be in the same frame together for a long time to come....

dont worryyy😀😀😀


Sorry to end on such a sad note...

BTW, yeh Meher kahan chali gayi? She went to go wash up with Prem, and Prem never brought her back...?!?!?!

Love,
~Payal




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Thanks, Sid....I needed that.
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awwie P its ok

Bt i fail to comprehend why u see a long separation in store...Confused....i wathcd da cenes again to confirm..why do i c onli good signs..Confused..okay maybe i am bein to optimistic..is it so? and u r rite..bt widout bias..i realli felt this way .after watchn da last 3 episodes of the show...Confused

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Hey payal wonderful post by you....
I agree u in all ur points and i highly doubt abt any seperation for so long.... as sidda said..... after any seperation there will be a new union.....
I think when the strom is spinning in ajmer they both will be seperated and at the end of it heer will save lallu to give him to prem ... some more drama of some truth coming out.... and th baba too said that the winds are changing its directions now and u'll go along with the directions and even ur thoughts will change.....
From the begining my mom used to say that even she used to bet me that see prem and heer will be the pair and they won't get seperated.... even when prem is abt to marry ash and when i lost my hope completely she was so confident that the marriage won't happen..... even now when they both tie the knot and when prem says today is the last day i'm seeing u with tears my mom said see this is the pair and u kids are getting tensed unwantedly.... i don't know y but till today whatever she says to me it will happen and i have never won any bet till today..... so i think even this time she'll win....
as you correctly said lallu doesn't deserve any pity....
rest of the episode is ok..... no comments...
Yes as u corrctly said yeh meher kahan chali gayi....????
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Originally posted by: sidrah fariq

awwie P its ok

Bt i fail to comprehend why u see a long separation in store...Confused....i wathcd da cenes again to confirm..why do i c onli good signs..Confused..okay maybe i am bein to optimistic..is it so? and u r rite..bt widout bias..i realli felt this way .after watchn da last 3 episodes of the show...Confused



I dunno sid...i just have a feeling, and can't shake it...when Prem just ran off today, I was crying because Heer stood there crying, watching him go, and I just knew somehow that they would seperate....I know a seperation is in store for sure....I just hope its not a long one...😭
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Originally posted by: IndianPari



I dunno sid...i just have a feeling, and can't shake it...when Prem just ran off today, I was crying because Heer stood there crying, watching him go, and I just knew somehow that they would seperate....I know a seperation is in store for sure....I just hope its not a long one...😭



ahh den fine u hafta treat me wid sth if dey dont separate for long..coz i realli feel dey wudnt...haha..i still feel dey wudnt...😆😆...u noe the ladies words and the prem-comin-bak-to-india-episode... keep ringin in my head...babaji said .."issi dargah pey tumhein woh milega jo tumhari kismet mein likha hai: and den the lady as i said "spoke of heer gettin her rites"..rites as in her rites to a proper famili now..how can dey be turned down at a plx dis sacrilgeous ..dis religious?...its nt fittin n...khair lets wait and watch...😀😜

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Originally posted by: tulip21

Hey payal wonderful post by you....

Thanks, Tulip...glad you enjoyed it dear.

I agree u in all ur points and i highly doubt abt any seperation for so long.... as sidda said..... after any seperation there will be a new union.....

But do you think they will seperate at all? I mean, did I misread everything today? I mean, I got Prem's seperation/union talk, but I thought that he was refering to their love already - his seperation from his dad meant their union.
I think when the strom is spinning in ajmer they both will be seperated and at the end of it heer will save lallu to give him to prem ... some more drama of some truth coming out.... and th baba too said that the winds are changing its directions now and u'll go along with the directions and even ur thoughts will change.....

I agree with all of this, but I just don't think that Prem will be around when Ullu learns of Heer's true identity...then he will perhaps go into "mujhse bahaut badi galati ho gayi hai" mode, and cry tears for having misunderstood his Prem who is not there....and I think he will take care of Heer until Prem returns to them...God, I dunno...i clearly have no clue what I'm talking about.
From the begining my mom used to say that even she used to bet me that see prem and heer will be the pair and they won't get seperated.... even when prem is abt to marry ash and when i lost my hope completely she was so confident that the marriage won't happen..... even now when they both tie the knot and when prem says today is the last day i'm seeing u with tears my mom said see this is the pair and u kids are getting tensed unwantedly.... i don't know y but till today whatever she says to me it will happen and i have never won any bet till today..... so i think even this time she'll win....

Well then tumhari maa ke muh mein ghee shakkar too, b/c I hope and pray she's right. *smile* it almost makes me feel better to think that your mom things they won't seperate...mom's are special...they tend to just know. 🙂
as you correctly said lallu doesn't deserve any pity....

and yesterday, I was mistakingly feeling sorry for him...Dead
rest of the episode is ok..... no comments...agreed, it was a waste of time.
Yes as u corrctly said yeh meher kahan chali gayi....???? i wonder if the winds will carry her back to ajmer with them...😆



Thanks dear, enjoyed reading your thoughts....I hope it happens as you say.

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