26,27 may: big things, little things

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Posted: 17 years ago
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too restless, so i thought i'd spend some energy taking a shot at the memorable things in these shows. (ya, like anyone needs to be pointed out what was memorable in these, right? πŸ˜†)

'kay, onward on the big and little things i noticed:😊

* gayatri-meher are so sweet together. whatever happens to heer-prem, i do hope lalu-gayatri-meher get to spend ever after as parents-daughter.

oh, ya, and preet too. πŸ˜†

* did laluchacha know that prem heart is elsewhere? like misty, i found that spiel of love forever from him to prem disturbing. my heart went out to prem looking tired to death, but still being gentle and firm for his father with his promises. at that point, i was considering parental abuse in the form of emotional blackmail. what would he do if prem did tell him that he was in love with someone else? would laluchacha actually force prem to marry ash?

* detective prem making leaps of inference just from hearing a surname -- of course, muckmeet is not good enough for his heer!

as if he ever was. πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

* his mother thought that prem in love will be so restrained and controlled that even while he's pining and sacrificing for the love, the person will never know it. she needn't have worried. someone can push her beloved son beyond control -- heer. today was the first we see prem out of control: he uses his strength to get heer to pay attention. his eyes blaze. and his voice..!

noticed that in conversation with anyone else, prem's voice is always pitched deep and low? he rarely shouts. and when he does, the timber is deep. (remember, his saying "bas!" at the fat guy in the wedding who was accusing heer of taking money?) there were only two times, when it has become higher pitched: the first was when the constable brought out heer as the call girl. the second was today, when heer accuses of his "spoiling" her life. heer, quiet, unassuming, servant girl - the key to unlock the master's soul. 😊

* when it is unlocked, it is no trickle, but a deluge. it sounded like prem wanted to get off everything that he has felt since he first stepped into the country with a sense of finding his true love here. it was like he told the inspector at the policestation: it's no longer a question of wealth or money, it's his obsession against heer's obsession. and oh boy, is he obsessed! it is so deep that he comes across as slightly insane - those dips and pleas in his voice against the thunder and threats in the next second. any other face, and we'd call him mad.

instead, we call this one "prem". because even when he is totally out of control, he fights against himself. heer asks who the hell she is to him. it's a phyiscal effort for him to turn away and use the line that works on his mother: "i cannot tell you that."

* but not on heer! desparately loved her tough guy act. after tugging on his sleeve didn't work, she actually yanks him around to face her with both hands - and succeeds! πŸ˜†

* at the very end of monday's show, the greatest puzzle in my mind was: why the heck did they name the show "kis desh mein..." here prem has just thundered an unavoidable truth in answer to heer's question, and the music is going "kis... desh.... mein... hai..." - what the heck has the desh to do with all this????!?!!?!?! πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

* both are slaves to their own principles. prem will marry ash for his father. heer will ignore prem's warnings because muckmeet made her father happy. the scene, where prem is kissing her hands and heer notices his ring (what is with this girl for noticing rings???), was incredibly beautifully done by both of them. he seemed to notice her stillness almost immediately - you can see it in his face. and he knows what she has seen, and what she will do. as she is yanking his hand away from his, there is nothing he can say to stop her. he doesn't even try. what i wondered at was that futile gesture, holding out his hand to stop her.

but when he turned away, i was so convinced of his hurt, that i expected to see the front of his pale shirt be rich with the colour of his blood, and a gaping hole where his heart was to have been. i expected to see him drop silently to the floor with the pain of his wound.

gee, can you tell that ending got to me???? πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

* if i had to do the dirtchachi dragging heer off the terrace scene? i'd have replaced the high-pitched female vocals with total silence and one of prem's declarations with every step that heer took down the stairs. that would have explained the dazed, uncaring look on her face so much better.

* the best part of the second show (really) was meher and her love for heer coming through loud and clear. we all obsess with the love of prem for heer and vice-versa. gayatri, his beloved mother, has not noticed it. meher, her beloved little sister, has seen it, noticed it, and kept it to herself, without bothering heer about it till now. that calls for as much love as prem has for heer, imho.

and now, to bring it in front of heer, even if she faces the possibility that her beloved sister can get angry with her and shut her out. meher, who has always been terrified enough of being without a home that she tolerates her aunt and cousin, is now happy to live on the streets if her sister can avoid an unhappy marriage. go meher! 😊

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: estee



* at the very end of monday's show, the greatest puzzle in my mind was: why the heck did they name the show "kis desh mein..." here prem has just thundered an unavoidable truth in answer to heer's question, and the music is going "kis... desh.... mein... hai..." - what the heck has the desh to do with all this????!?!!?!?! πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

Its time to watch the show and so am just replying to this part 🀣

Cause this is exactly what I was thinking

Though the song is beautiful...Loved the lyrics...the tune...But not apt for the situation

My friends who does not watch the show was teasing me saying that why is the show named ''Kis Desh...'' when Prem is next door

I was like ..''Okie...Its soon going to be changed to ''Isi Desh Main Hain Mera Dil''..''Infact Isi Ghar main hain Mera Dil''..

Show time...Am rushing...Will brb laterπŸ˜†

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: estee



* at the very end of monday's show, the greatest puzzle in my mind was: why the heck did they name the show "kis desh mein..." here prem has just thundered an unavoidable truth in answer to heer's question, and the music is going "kis... desh.... mein... hai..." - what the heck has the desh to do with all this????!?!!?!?! πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

^ OMG exactly! That was the exact thing I was thinking when the song started playing.... Idhar pyaar aur junoon ki baatien chal rahi thi, aur gaana baj raha hai desh ka... πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† It was totally out of place, even though I do love the title track... I think the show should just have been named something else....

Nothing needs to be said about that fantastic scene... Although, I did think that the dubbing was quite poor... I couldn't catch what Prem was quite saying in the first few minutes... But I absolutely loved when he went from thunderous and threatening to lamenting how much he loved her and how powerless he was to do anything..... Especially the part where he tearfully says "Kitna pyaar karta hoon main tumse...? Kitna... Itna ki tumse door hona ka dard bardasht kar sakta hoon... Lekin yeh nahi ki tum mujhse door rehkar khush nahi ho..." Archaic hindi movie dialogue, I know... But something about the way he said it, and especially his teary eyes.... *sniff* *secretly wipes tiny tear away*

One major grouse with otherwise fantastic scene.... The shoddya$$ editing...😑 It was so bloody bad, it ALMOST ruined the scene for me. (ALMOST! πŸ˜ƒ ) One minute Heer has her hands on his cheek, next frame, she's just lifting them to put them on his cheeks.... One minute they're laying their foreheads against each other's.... Next, they're standing a foot away, with him just grabbing her arm and shaking it feebly....πŸ˜• Absolutely disgusting editing...🀒 It made me really mad, coz it ruined an otherwise flawless scene.... 🀒

The way that ring suddenly glistened. That was one MAJOR "WTF?" moment... πŸ˜• It just shone in such an ungodly way.... It was like some freaky B grade adventure thriller. 🀒

Meher, was FABULOUS. This girl is such a good actress. No offence to Additi, but I really think the girl who plays Meher is far more talented... She was so powerful in that scene.... While Additi really really has to work on her voice modulation and dialogue delivery, Meher (don't know actress's name, so will call her Meher) was spot on with the expressions and voice.... Bang on performance... I really want her to get her own track with some big importance given to her... πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘

Great post as always, estee.... πŸ˜› Gotta go out for a bit now, but I'll come back and we'll go into a lil catatonic stupor discussing the liquidy eyed boy with the air in his hair.... πŸ˜‰
Edited by darkness_123 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Really enjoyed reading ur take Estee and Nimmi too..πŸ‘
I agree Nimmi horrendous editing.. almost ruined the flawless scene...
Meher was really good too.. and Additi ishh new and I guess she will catch up too..πŸ˜ƒ
And I agree.. as much as I love the title track.. when it suddenly started playing .. I was like errm O_o okiee..
Daisy LOL that was cute.. issi ghar may hai mera dilπŸ˜†

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Estee, Nimmi, Faith,

I agree with all three of you there were glaring flaws in that scene but I think Prem's eyes and words more than made up for it..

I did not get what that ring shining meant.. was that a reminder to Heer that they are engaged to different ppl? But I thot that ring on Prem's finger was Heer's remember DJ took her ring since Ash lost the one that was for Prem.. no?

And I was πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† when Kis Desh started playing.. what was that?? then I realized is Heer wondering if she's going to stay in India after marriage to Manmeet or move to Canada after marrying Prem.. πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† May be thats why the show is named Kis Desh Mein Hai Mera Dil.. πŸ˜† πŸ˜† Hey but now Prem has moved to India.. that title doesnt make sense.. πŸ˜†
Edited by minniemau - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: delo

I was like ..''Okie...Its soon going to be changed to ''Isi Desh Main Hain Mera Dil''..''Infact Isi Ghar main hain Mera Dil''..



πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜† That was too good.. I was saying the same thing Prem has relocated back to India fromCanada, so no more different "desh" in the story..
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: minniemau


I did not get what that ring shining meant.. was that a reminder to Heer that they are engaged to different ppl? But I thot that ring on Prem's finger was Heer's remember DJ took her ring since Ash lost the one that was for Prem.. no?



Yep, more than anything, it was a reminder that this was the man her COUSIN was marrying. All the more reason to run as quickly as possible.... I don't think Heer, being the sanskaari girl she is, would quite agree to the "saali toh aadhi gharwaali hoti hai" theory.... πŸ˜†

Now *ME* on the other hand.... πŸ˜‰

(Hey, before you declare I'm a lecherous man stealer, JUST LOOK AT THE GUY, and then blame me.... πŸ˜›)

The ring.... This seemed to be a different ring from the one DJ borrowed from Heer.... That one was a simple band of gold, while this one was thicker and had some crap engraved on it... I think it even had a diamond on it, thus explaning the freaky glint it gave off.... :/ :/
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: darkness_123


Yep, more than anything, it was a reminder that this was the man her COUSIN was marrying. All the more reason to run as quickly as possible.... I don't think Heer, being the sanskaari girl she is, would quite agree to the "saali toh aadhi gharwaali hoti hai" theory.... πŸ˜†

Now *ME* on the other hand.... πŸ˜‰

(Hey, before you declare I'm a lecherous man stealer, JUST LOOK AT THE GUY, and then blame me.... πŸ˜›)

The ring.... This seemed to be a different ring from the one DJ borrowed from Heer.... That one was a simple band of gold, while this one was thicker and had some crap engraved on it... I think it even had a diamond on it, thus explaning the freaky glint it gave off.... :/ :/



πŸ˜† One advice to Heer.. take Prem and run.. your dear cousin is eying Prem's brother, she wouldnt mind you running off with Prem as long as he's replaced with Preet.. Ash ki aish ho jayegi πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

Hey the ring DJ stole from Heer was a plain gold band that would fit only on Prem's little finger.. so what was the diamond ring shining for?? πŸ˜‰πŸ˜†πŸ˜† Oh.. this Prem na wears too many rings.. makes things complicated.. poor Heer got confused .. and me too.. πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: delo

I was like ..''Okie...Its soon going to be changed to ''Isi Desh Main Hain Mera Dil''..''Infact Isi Ghar main hain Mera Dil''..



🀣 brilliant, just brilliant.

we just need to persuade balaji telefilms that this is a great new marketing/trp building trick. change the title when it better suits the situation.

isi ghar mein hai... they won't even need to change the tempo or the rythm of the theme song or anything. 🀣
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: darkness_123

Especially the part where he tearfully says "Kitna pyaar karta hoon main tumse...? Kitna... Itna ki tumse door hona ka dard bardasht kar sakta hoon... Lekin yeh nahi ki tum mujhse door rehkar khush nahi ho..." Archaic hindi movie dialogue, I know... But something about the way he said it, and especially his teary eyes.... *sniff* *secretly wipes tiny tear away*



tell me about it! that's one thing that drives me absolutely crazy about this show. it's filled to the gills with the same old settings, what i'd normally consider parochial, unbelieveable dialogue. and yet here i am, believing it with all of my ... well, right now, vanished heart!

it's like prem said: what's happening to me?? can they really get me with a pair of expressive eyes? really????? πŸ˜†

Originally posted by: darkness_123

One major grouse with otherwise fantastic scene .... The shoddya$$ editing.



ya, it was kinda jerky. but it has been much worse -- did you notice the jumps in the mask party prem-heer dance? i was red from trying not to yell in a temper.

but i am still taken with the new overhead view that the balaji crew have been using here. compared to the horrific multiple zoom-in,zoom-out/spinning technique that they used in ksbkbt with senseless freedom, this is a very nice new view of the players and the show. kinda enjoying it.

Originally posted by: darkness_123

I'll come back and we'll go into a lil catatonic stupor discussing the liquidy eyed boy with the air in his hair.... πŸ˜‰



πŸ˜† well, i've been freely spreading drool in several posts over this forum. i'd be embarassed, if only my brain could concentrate on drooling, keeping the fake heartbeat going and feeling embarassed all at once!

i'm afraid that i have a very small brain. πŸ˜†

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