20,21 aug '09: big things, little things

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* little thing: i confess. when they showed us gi-it's room, i was busy scanning it for nitrous oxide cylinders... πŸ˜† seriously. what is their excuse for having such hyper people on the show??

* little thing: that gi-it ki maa was... fishy. no really.

a mother who comes in and says ''go ahead and have your little tete-a-tete. and i'll just clean up this mess''?? oh c'mon! she soooo wanted to spy in on their conversation. totally! πŸ˜†

* big thing: 'kay, why the heck didn't heer tell gi-it that she knew what prem juneja had done 'cause he was her husband? why?

i've thought and thought and can't come up with any answer, let alone a good answer! what possible reason could she have had?? gi-it had already caught on partly -- i mean, who says things like ''now he has come back and is emotionally blackmailing his wife with stories of how he has spent his life in misery to let him back into her life..'' i mean, who -- who!?!?! -- else would know that kinda detail except prem juneja's wife??? i mean, ... c'mon!!!

but what drives me really bananas is that if heer had told gi-it that she was the young mr. juneja's wife, gi-it would have absolutely refused to have anything to do with prem juneja! for sure! i mean, gi-it already knows that heer is still in love with her husband. why wouldn't heer tell her??! *thinking* darnit! is heer afraid that if gi-it knows, then she would work with prem to get them together? and she doesn't want that?

* little thing: btw! when heer said that about prem, why didn't a million tube-lights go on in gi-it's head which made her scream: ''what?! he is trying to emotionally blackmail his wife to get back to her??! what??! he still loves his wife??! ewwwww!!!!! i could never marry such a guy!!!''?

why didn't she?

why?

why?

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and why didn't gi-it say that she wanted to meet the wife herself to talk with her to find out what exactly happened in their life?

man! in that moment, gi-it was such an empty-headed ... git! darnit! i always wondered what the precise meaning of git was. now i know with crystal clarity.

* little thing: i want to know why heer is doing all this in this particular way. i want to know why she is not acting a little more ... smart about this whole ''prem juneja wants his phukda'' thing.

so far, what we've got is a high-pitched emotional reason. that she won't be able to explain to phukda why her papa doesn't live with them anymore. forgetting the high-pitch of the emotion and thinking rationally! (omg!) πŸ˜†

it's not as if there aren't single parent households in india. and that too in delhi. and i know kids just accept what their parent tells them. she could just say that they (prem and heer) cannot accept living together. and kids accept that. it's only when they grow up that the ''why not?'' questions start. so why is she so afraid of letting prem spend just a little time with phukda? after all, that is all he is asking for -- acknowledgement of his fatherhood and time with chahat.

what is heer's problem? why is she behaving -- like shifali said in a post
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1236869
-- as if she is afraid of prem on the question of the phukda?

shifali thought that heer just knows that with prem it will not stop at ''a few moments''. which is true -- heer does know this. so she is really afraid that prem being prem, before she can blink, he will have taken over her life and phukda's life and come back firmly into their lives as before.

she is afraid that she will not be able to resist him. and eventually, no matter what she does, she will be hurt again. and this time, phukda can be hurt too? and that makes sense. but not that intensity of her reactions. at least, not the intensity that i think we've been shown all along. it doesn't make sense with for the same girl who we've seen admonish phukda and tell her not to call prem khaddoos, or by his name. or the girl who thinks that prem would be proud of how she has brought phukda up.

heer's reactions are more like she is mortally afraid that if they all have time with phukda, eventually, she will not have phukda anymore. she is constantly thinking ''what will i do without her? i will die without her.'' why is heer's world view always showing her a world without a chahat if prem is there? πŸ˜• it's sooo weird by itself, imho. really needs a different reason to explain things -- which *sigh* we may or may not get, knowing this story-telling bunch. πŸ˜’ who i am afraid i'm running out of hope on to keep surprising us. but! who i will give one more chance. 'cause ...

it's prem-and-heer-are-one, of course! and they have this strange habit of making the world twist and turn to make it seem they look perfect and real and beautiful always. πŸ˜†

* little thing: gi-it is a ... volatile creature isn't she? she is all feeling and *sigh* unfortunately apparently little brain.

anyone who was watching heer, confronted with the question of ''how do you know all this?'' would've immediately smelt a fish.. *oh, wait! that could be the fishy mother. okay, they would've immediately smelt a rat. (now that ratpal is in jail... πŸ˜†)* but gi-it? gi-it is swamped by misery and tears instead. i mean, if heer got all this from prem juneja's files - shouldn't gi-it have seen this too -- seeing how freely she can get client files? or asked her mom about it?

or... am i wrong? did the girl who when she asked heer whether heer still loved her husband and understood that heer still did love him, from the amount of time it took for heer to say no, also understand that there is a deeper connection between heer juneja and prem juneja's wife? *keeping my fingers crossed in wild hope that gi-it does have some working brains...*

* little thing: that moment when gaali-maa said that she would've fed vitchface sweets 'cause it was her brother's wedding. hello? step-brother's wedding. remember? you are the one who kept pushing the difference, you cadaver 😑. now don't drop that important four-letter word just 'cause it's convenient to you. mind it! *preening as i demonstrate my prowess with teacher triv's... er, teachings. πŸ˜†*

* little thing: er... isn't it kinda creepy that people at marriage bureaus would actually hide things from one person's past, that might potentially totally wreck the other's life, hidden from the other person?

i seriously got creeped out when heer said that she wouldn't have told anyone other than gi-it. everyone who enters into a marriage should know what they are getting into, no? πŸ˜›πŸ˜•
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* little thing: heh. i totally loved the shot of heer stroking phukda's hair and we get to see her little toes sticking up in the background. heh. that was tho cute. children are so innocent in the totally abandonded way in which they sleep.

* flashback thing: omg! those flashbacks of heer's while looking at the moon just have to be some of my most favourite prem's ever! seriously! any which way she does it, heer imagines the best prems... 😍

* little thing: heer thinking that she will give up all her ''prem-nishani's''. er... heer? forgot little phukda? the biggest of 'em all? how 'bout that one? should'nt you be consistent in how you treat all prem-nishani-things?? 😳

* little thing: heer's misery when she admitted to herself that memories are not in her control -- they just come. and these don't leave her alone. ever. that was really well done. and a welcome respite from the unmitigated stream of fight-against-prem-and-all-things-prem heer-actions that we keep getting day after day after day.

* little thing: but i must say -- there is something miserable about heer sleeping in chahat's bed every night. a girl must have her own bed. where she can be herself rather than a mother... πŸ€”

* little thing: btw, something that struck me -- has heer now spent a longer time with phukda than she ever did with prem?

* little thing: gi-it throwing a hissy fit about not getting married at the breakfast table. it was sad, of course. but seriously? it just reinforced the idea that she is a seriously spoilt brat.

* little thing: prem stuffing his little face at the breakfast table. somehow... i wanted to hit him right there. i dunno why? or was it his stooopid cadaver of a mother who was stuffing his face so that he wouldn't have brains enough left to figure out what he is signing who i wanted to hit on the upside of her head?

but then i told myself to cool it -- 'cause of two things.
  1. when it comes to signing for his mother, prem would never ever think anyway. no, i don't mean the custody papers -- of course, he would've never signed those. but she'd presented it as work stuff. so even if all the blood in his body wasn't being drained to his stomach to digest the breakfast, he would've signed without question.
  2. 2. hitting gaali-maa on the upside of her head would've been difficult, no? 'cause... er... exactly what would be the upside of her head? it's all such a large smooth round featureless glob like mass... *hmm. should i now just call gaali-maa glob-maa??! 🀣 it certainly suits her and sound much more funny! glob-maa!! 🀣🀣🀣*
* little thing: oooh, maya the lawyer's daughter immediately smells something fishy! go maya!

*sigh* oooh, maya the rich man's daughter still can't get her head out of it all being about money. *sigh* maya! oh well. as long as someone's keeping some eye on glob-maa. *hehehehehehe*

highlight of the episode: oh, for sure. chahat's toes sticking out in the foreground of the shot as she slept... for the rest, nothing else. πŸ˜†

21 aug

* little thing[B]: great. an episode which starts with glob-maa and sleazy glob-lawyer.

btw, are these two people (the actors) related? there was a strange similarity in their ... chins. no? πŸ˜ƒ i want to know.

[B]* stooopid, stoooopid, stooooopid, script thing[B]: oh. my. save-me-from-this-version-of-the-universe gosh! could there be a more ridiculous scene as the one where the creatives tell us that gi-it changes her mind 'bout marrying prem?

y'know? what bugged me was how easy it is to have done it so that it made sense.

1. gi-it could've figured that she needs to talk to prem herself and called him to this spot.
but nooooooooooo. we just [B]had
to have a random occurance, right?
2. they could've not been trying to tell us that there are worse actors in the world than the one playing gi-it. 'cause actually, once in a 100 moments, i think she even does okay.
but nooooooooooo. we just had to have mr. drama-queen black-shirt and ms. omg-i'm-on-tv red-dress. we get it -- there are people who are desperate for a job that you hire to get on screen. we get it!!! stop shoving it into our faces already! this serial's not called ''kis desh mein hain hamara chai-paaani'', 'kay??! 😑
3. since we've already seen that prem's car has a strange way of stopping just next to the chaat-wala, we could've had him stop for yet-another-call.
but noooooooooooo. mr. juneja -- sitting INSIDE his fancy merc probably with the a/c blasting on high for the cold air to get beneath his thick courdroy jacket and that multi-threaded polo shirt -- stops 'cause he apparently hears the whole dispute and ... has a ready solution sitting in his car.
i mean, the only way prem could've heard the whole thing is if he'd been listening from a long time before his car parked there. so, is it truly true? prem truly is superman come back to earth? aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhh!
4. but above all this idiocy, the thing that really hurt most is the idea that prem had a gift to give heer.
if there was anything more stooopid than that, i'd like to hear it. seriously. most sincerely. πŸ˜’

by this time, i was sooo steamed, i'd left to get some ice-cream. and that too before dinner.
i was killed for it. but it was worth the death. i couldn't bear to see that scene anymore. first time i've walked out of watching while the show was on. first time ever. and that too when prem was on screen!!! forget the bhashans he started, i couldn't bear to see him do his ''aw-gee-it-worked!-they're-happy!'' face when i came back in, when i wanted to rip the entire footage to bits. by my very own hands. and then stamp on it. and then set it alight. argh. for the first time, this show had unbearable poop. and it was unforgivable that they had prem in it. i despise the creatives with a deep, fierce, burning dislike for that segment. i do. you hear me? 😑

* little thing: 'cause worst of all! they almost made me feel glad for the omg-it-makes-sense! scene with glob-maa and bigger-glob-maa in the picture. poor meher. she was in it too. but hey! she wasn't doing the poop that prem had to do in the previous scene! 😑

but i must say, what was unpleasantly chilling in that scene was how they tried to recall the past episodes with glob-maa sticking sweets into meher's face and telling her to eat it. whatever little thrill i got from watching the almost comical dismay in glob-maa's face on hearing that yet-another-marriage-attempt on her part had crashed and burnt, was completely wiped out by that scene with meher.

that was what dirtchachi used to do. and i suddenly felt very very sick. and i don't need to feel any more sick about glob-maa.

i don't want to call her maa any more. shall we just keep it to the glob? *still feeling the horrible taste of bile rising in my throat as i remember that scene. 🀒*

* little thing: thank goodness for the heer-phukda moment! what would we do without the sweetness and rightness of mother-daughter love that these two manage to put through. and that too with the right balance of sane realism.

i loved phukda's chirpiness as she packed for school. soooo non-hyper that i could cry. i loved how heer fussed over her then. i loved how her took the call and talked about work.

*but hey! what was that retro-music she had on her cellphone?? that was ... unexpected. but i must admit -- people with children end up having really strange ringer-tones. primarily 'cause the kids are always fooling around with settings on their parent's phones... πŸ˜†*

seriously, of all the things that actually work post tls**, heer-phukda's moments are it. thweetie-pies. *putting kala tika on them, as teacher triv taught me to do. πŸ˜†*

* ouch things: and of course, they can't let heer be happy even then, can they? they have to bring glob-lawyer to spoil her peace of mind and happiness.

why? why can't they just leave heer alone?!

* estee-wants-it thing: why can't prem just say ''oh, hang it, heer!'' and grab heer and hold her against his chest with one hand, against which broad expanse, she can squeak and shout and flail all she wants, until she sobs exhausted and shivery and finally quiet? and 'cause prem will have phukda's hand in his other hand which heer can see out of the corner of one eye that can peer from behind his chest. and finally decided -- even in a resigned way -- to offer her heart up to the risk of loving prem juneja once more?

prem, please? bully heer? please? πŸ˜”

* little thing: i'd like to say that the gi-it interaction with bigger-glob-maa was just as sweet a mother-daughter interaction. but i can't. so i won't. πŸ˜†

but hey. so gi-it is
  1. going to keep her resolution to marry prem from heer.
  2. going to talk to the glob to fix her wedding to prem herself.
why do i think this might be an interesting watch? seriously... 'cause at the end of the day, i do believe that gi-it loves heer. i do.

* heer thing: one thing that has always been true about heer. when she is cornered and in trouble, she will fight!

that's one of the first things that i remember about heer. that when those bullies trapped her in the hotel room and tried to .. have their way with her, she clawed them and kicked them and did whatever it took to get away from them. she was crying and begging. but she fought.

now too, she is under attack. one so hard that it takes her breath away. but in a moment, she recovers. it made me cry to see her slowly bend down and pick the papers up herself. so often, such things happen and .. stay there. here, once her brain starts working, she needs to know what this is all about so that she can fight it better.

she spits at the glob-lawyer. but swallows her pride enough to stop him to ask him what the papers say. she focusses on what is important: ''who is fighting for custody? when is the court case -- ie, how many days does she have to do something about it?'' and then, in a recall of that old regal heer who stood proud and resplendent in red finery in front of dirty ratpal at registhan, she dismisses him. ooh, heer. go, go, go!

now if only you could be this calm and controlled with prem.

but heh. that's never gonna happen, is it, heer? heh. er... heh-heh! πŸ˜ƒ you, who used to be soooo proficient in tying him around your little finger. now suffer... but only with prem right in your face. i don't like you suffering alone.

* little thing: er.. btw. technical question -- don't custody challenges have to have the signature of the challenger in 'em? i mean, what is this bullpoop about ''you'll find out who the challenger is in court.''?? that's bullpoop.. no? πŸ˜•

* little thing: 'kay, it is inevitable that heer should think prem has something to do with this custody challenge. but ... her flashbacks made me pause in whether she will think he has actually done it. after all, she does remember him saying that he never would. and prem juneja has always tried to keep his word. i guess the question is: will she trust him on this or not.

i liked the precap for it showed us that heer is actually gonna try to do the sensible thing -- talk to prem 'bout it. what was tiresome about the precap was that it had the glob confronting her about it.

me? i'm gonna hope that the glob might think that heer is gonna talk to prem about gi-it? but *sigh* given the devilish efficiency with which she dealt with heer during the samir-in-leather days, i'm guessing that she knows that glob-lawyer has already served the custody papers to heer.

highlight of the episode: oh, no shaq. has to be phukda packing her bag happily. telling her mother to ''walk and talk'' (?? first a cellphone ringtone; and now the kid tells her to do it? am i missing s'thing?) and... heer smilingly complying! peaceful heer-phukda are a charm.

**tls : time line shift. the way time went forward six years for prem and heer.

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estee i haven't read the btlt yet so can't comment... but few days back i was cleaning my bag and guess what i found in it? A printout of an old BTLT 🀣 Ah the things these two make me carry in my bag 🀣🀣
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E, some stupid things happened during the past two days. I'm not sure I can be on Heer's side. I understand some of her reasons for her actions, but some, some are too extreme for me.

And the 'walk and talk' thing is an advert, an 'idea' ad. The whole segment was basically a sponser thing. Cute, but unnecessary I think.

I'd go in depth, but I'm too lazy. Heh. Maybe I shall wtf* if you post it this weekend.

Love,
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*wtf - weekend thought feature, obviously! *shakes head at E for even thinking otherwise*

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Estee I cant say that I am too glad wid the things that are being shown.coz it hurts to see heer-prem like this..I know no matter what happens, they are one.but creatives are getting shaky somewhere..cant exactly pin-point what and where...maybe its the hyper-active geet who is getting on my nerves.
and you are absolutely correct that she is stupid..anybody with eyes and brain can see prem-heer are so much into each other..,.The other day, when they were sitting in the restaurant and prem is talking abt his wife, how can geet NOT see who is he talking about? How? she keeps looking at prem who in turn has eyes for heer and only heer...and still geet misses it?? I mean, does she have peanuts for brain? i am annoyed by the pace.

Ur Bt,LT is brilliant as always..loved reading it..but nothing major to comment from my side..I feel lost these days.

and ya..I hate glob..just simply hate her...

Edit add:

Estee!!the profile pic of urs is 😍...OMG! its from the epi that must not be named,right?
uff...those eyes..and that intensity...😍
*drools*...*thud*...*faints*..

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Originally posted by: -Ravjot-

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ravzie!!! πŸ€—
I'll unreserve later cuz I'm a bit sleepy right now πŸ˜†
uh... 'kay. cool. will forgo my sleep and wait till you wake up... oh how i love to be on the phorum past 2am! 😎



Originally posted by: Soaps1

estee i haven't read the btlt yet so can't comment... but few days back i was cleaning my bag and guess what i found in it? A printout of an old BTLT 🀣 Ah the things these two make me carry in my bag 🀣🀣

πŸ˜† soaps, omg! i hope it was worth the paper it was printed on! which episode's was it?? *suddenly getting eaten with curiosity that soaps actually thought a bt,lt worth printing out!*


Originally posted by: Anhdara13

E, some stupid things happened during the past two days. I'm not sure I can be on Heer's side. I understand some of her reasons for her actions, but some, some are too extreme for me.

😲 your holiness! you have to be ''on heer's side''. you have to! 'cause this is heer. who fundamentally and always loves prem. you have to. *wondering what the papal punishment is for people who sulk.. πŸ˜†*

And the 'walk and talk' thing is an advert, an 'idea' ad. The whole segment was basically a sponser thing. Cute, but unnecessary I think.

oh!!! wow. product placement in the show?? that is cool... isn't it?? i mean, they'll be getting paid for that, right?

*wtf - weekend thought feature, obviously! *shakes head at E for even thinking otherwise*


huh! like ... i never did! more than me -- you're the pope remember??! πŸ˜†



sonu, hreeya glad it made sense, guys. πŸ˜ƒ

Originally posted by: coolgal270



😲 sumi?? is that you?? *blinking to make sure..* where the heck have you been??! πŸ€—

Estee I cant say that I am too glad wid the things that are being shown.coz it hurts to see heer-prem like this..I know no matter what happens, they are one.but creatives are getting shaky somewhere..cant exactly pin-point what and where

oh, i totally know what you mean. it's tough keeping the phaith when so often, we've been told such silly things. i think it's ash (ash08) who said the other day, that they give us anything prem-heer-together and a whole lot of poop -- and we will take what they dish out in the name of a story. it isn't. and what i think we are seeing is how things can no longer remain acceptable -- even with prem-heer-are-one -- if there is no real story. i wish we had great story writers. actually, i just wish we had 'kay-types story writers. with prem-heer-are-one, just a little effort is all it takes, i think...

but sigh, what do i know? i just sit outside and watch and get weary...


Ur Bt,LT is brilliant as always..loved reading it..but nothing major to comment from my side..I feel lost these days.

don't feel lost. feel... the phhandooh! πŸ˜† go to the phhandooh-at

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1144506&tpn=35

and put in your list of phugs. now! and if you need help remembering -- here. check this old post out.

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1103391

it's a lovely collection of what all happened with prem heer upto rajasthan, i think... πŸ˜ƒ


Edit add:

Estee!!the profile pic of urs is 😍...OMG! its from the epi that must not be named,right?
uff...those eyes..and that intensity...😍
*drools*...*thud*...*faints*..

yeah... it is... *estee eyes starting to glaze at the very memory of that pic... * it is... and it must not be named. i was a phool for having put that up... truly, a big phat phool... *thud!*

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