Is Heer Right/Are her acts justified?? - Page 2

Well as some said earlier that what Prem did was extremely wrong and Heer's actions are justified.I feel that what Prem did do wrong by making a big scene at restaurant(which acc. to me cannot be justified) and by sleeping with Ash(in Heer's and everybody's else eyes) but how can we forget that it was Heer who hid so many thinbgs from Prem and inspite of him not giving up his faith in her and waiting for her to confide in him,she kept quite.She gave Prem every reason to doubt her and even after that Prem's belief was strong.It was Gayatri,the person Prem loves the most that made him doubt her.Even after again promising each-other at Shiv Mandir not to hide anything from one-another,she decided to keep the truth to herself and not share it with Prem.So to say how can we forget that Prem love for her cannot be questioned even after whatever happenned.He went against his family for her,supported her in every single step of life,pretended to be dead when he got to know about his hole in the heart thing,returned only to save Heer from marrying RR,pretended to be bad Gaurav to keep distance from Heer,even after the revealation of truth he kept a distance from Heer,he asked Heer to marry again,he although did not like the fact Heer doubting Veera and taking Nihaal's side,he never let that come in between there love..his love for her never decreased..Ok..Ok I am talking all about Prem's side and not Heer's..I know Heer too loved him equally,she was ready to sacrifice herself for him ,she always considered his family as her own,she always understood him and to make the long story short both Premeer loved each-other equally,but one truth ,one mistake shattered everything for her..she couldn't forgive him,not even for there daughter..even after making a mistake Prem took a bold step by not HIDING it...still everything,all his love ,there love actually lost for one mistake!!..that too for a mistake commited in a drunken state!!,..all he did for her,all she did for him ,there love,there daughter..nothing mattered in front of that mistake...For me Heer is wrong,truly wrong ...

Originally posted by: -Triv-

No..she was wrong to hide about Chaahat from Prem...but I was trying to understand Heer's POV and even though Ash ka chapter is her biggest reason to distance herself from Prem...I think everything Prem has done to her till now are the reason for her not wanting to go back to him...

This is totally my POV...

Prem has always kept his family above Heer..not because he doesn't love her...he loves her the most but because he is so sure and confident of her love. That she won't leave him ever. Why else did he remove her from Jzoo and never even apologized?

What has Prem done to Heer to hurt her:

1. Repent being with Heer..when Lallu kicked him out..he wanted to be with his family...and this is not MY POV only...a certain someone from the team did confirm that yes he did repent.

I don't know the team's point of view but my judgement is based on what i saw ... he didn't repent being with Heer not at ALL!!! Yes he was sad because he had to leave his family that he dearly loved but not for a moment did he repent being with Heer instead ... its totally unfair to judge him like this! He left his family for heer didn't he? If he repented he could go back why didn't he???

2. Refuse to marry Heer...it was for her own good from his POV...but he did hurt her

That way when heer pretended to have a lost memory she hurt him too didn't she? Both of them have always done for eachother what they thought was right so i don't see why heer would be hurt!

3. Not believing her about Veera..he had his reasons but still

Yea but he was the first one to admit key vishwas hum donoun ka kamzor hey wasn't he? Heer doubted him in sanjana matter as well and she admitted "mey ney pata nahi kia kia soch liya tha" so why blamme only Prem???

4. After surviving Bomb Blast, he didn't go back to her...for the silliest reason of a hole in his heart/brain.🥱

5. He intended never to go back to her..but wait to die..and only came out when he came to know about RR-Heer marriage.

Yea cause he thought he was dieing and didn't want to hurt heer again ... and mind you he came back only for heer not his family not even his mother who was a vegetable! He came back only when heer was in trouble for no body else

6. He married her and then acted like GS, money minded git. He hurt her a lot during this stage..taunting and stuff

What could he do? He thought he was dieing hurting heer as GS was better than hurting her as Prem ... i am not saying he was right or wrong but if heer judges him on the basis of this she is not being fair

7. He kept trying to leave her even after she came to know the truth...this was the cowardliest thing done by Prem..instead of spending the time he had with Heer..he preferred to give his FAMILY less pain by telling them he was GS and leaving Heer

8. He kicked out Heer from Jzoo for his mom and had the gall to say that if his mom doesnt want Heer in the house then she will never come back.

Yes he did ask her to leave only because he thought its temporary and he had enough faith in his relationship to believe heer will understand him ... and he did bring her back despite his mom not wanting it i think you have forgotten that

9. After he brought her back to Jzoo..and Veera drama happened...he didn't listen to Heer's and Nihaal's POV...even after knowing how much his sister hated Nihaal...he never bothered to ask. He was close to Nihaal...so why so blind?

Nehal himself accepted everything what could Prem do? And in nehal matter heer was at fault too when she went on to give witness in nehal's favor without taking Prem into confidence ... but despite that his anger with her didn't last for more than a day ... his love for her never lessoned and even when nehal admitted he killed veera ... heer's arms were his only place of comfort

10. Ignoring Heer after Veera's death...the way he did..was well heartwrenching...I felt really bad for Heer. Not to mention..him sleeping outside and not in their room..and also accusing her of lying for her brother.

His sister was dead ... nehal admitted he killed her you expect him to be in his senses and be normal ? He ignored heer? ummm when veera died where did he go for comfort?

11. Suspecting Heer with Rajveer...I give him credit for giving her so many benefit of doubt...Heer went OTT with the Sameer problem. She was wrong and very wrong to hide it from Prem for whatever reason. But it was also wrong of Prem to do a public drama over this and manhandling her.

Yes it was wrong and if this is one of the reasons in heer's mind i can take it ... even though heer was equally at fault

11. And last and the biggest problem...Prem with Ash...this is very painful for any person...and Heer toh she trusted him no matter what...in her eyes..Prem could do no wrong. And you have to admit..from her POV..it would look like Prem did that as a revenge...you slept with someone? I will too....I think that's what Heer thinks...coz she has never seen prem drunk has she?

I am ok with her POV on this but still hiding abt chahat for this reason is wrong and not justified

Now...thinking over all the points...why am I not surprised that Heer will prefer living alone with her dotty where she can be herself..(heer was very pressurised by Jzoo over Nihaal matter...she had to keep choosing one of the other) By living alone with her dotty...she has no pressure on her life...she has closed herself from Prem. She is happy and content...so why would she want to go in the house where she never had a moment of peace? And with Prem.. his family will always be there...he wont break those strings...

i am sorry but accept the last two points ... if heer considers other points for not wanting to go back then she never ever understood Prem ... and is being totally unfair to him and his love and if this is indeed the case then there is no love and no love story ... she should stay where she is cause she has got Prem totally wrong

I think the family is the second major reason to distance herself from Prem. Can't say I blame her anymore...

Originally posted by: -Triv-

Edited 🤣 Waiting for jootas and chappals now 🤣

Originally posted by: -Triv-

Edited 🤣 Waiting for jootas and chappals now 🤣

Originally posted by: -Triv-

No..she was wrong to hide about Chaahat from Prem...but I was trying to understand Heer's POV and even though Ash ka chapter is her biggest reason to distance herself from Prem...I think everything Prem has done to her till now are the reason for her not wanting to go back to him...

This is totally my POV...

Prem has always kept his family above Heer..not because he doesn't love her...he loves her the most but because he is so sure and confident of her love. That she won't leave him ever. Why else did he remove her from Jzoo and never even apologized?

What has Prem done to Heer to hurt her:

1. Repent being with Heer..when Lallu kicked him out..he wanted to be with his family...and this is not MY POV only...a certain someone from the team did confirm that yes he did repent...

I agree it looked like that earlier but later in Ajmer Dargah all his dialogues proved that Heer mattered to him the most and he wanted to start a fresh life with her.He never left her alone,never thought of going back..
2. Refuse to marry Heer...it was for her own good from his POV...but he did hurt her.

hmmm but the outstanding proposal made for it
3. Not believing her about Veera..he had his reasons but still...

how can he not believe Veera ,she had marks on her body,was crying and a loving brother is supposed to behave in an exact manner,,.he knew Veera was a bit spoilt but could have never imagined her to lie to this extent..it was not about not believing Heer...it was about believing his little sister..
4. After surviving Bomb Blast, he didn't go back to her...for the silliest reason of a hole in his heart/brain.🥱..

again all he thought here was of Heer,he did not want Heer to go through the same pain twice..
5. He intended never to go back to her..but wait to die..and only came out when he came to know about RR-Heer marriage..

.he never wanted Heer to go through that pain she had already suffered twice but still could not let her marry a wrong man,even for his family's sake..this proved Heer mattered to him the most..
6. He married her and then acted like GS, money minded git. He hurt her a lot during this stage..taunting and stuff..

and didnt he got hurt by doing all this and getting Heer's taunts in return??
7. He kept trying to leave her even after she came to know the truth...this was the cowardliest thing done by Prem..instead of spending the time he had with Heer..he preferred to give his FAMILY less pain by telling them he was GS and leaving Heer.

Again it was firstly Heer about whom he thought and cared..he wanted to go so as not to come near to him and distance him from Heer so that she can start afresh in future..he infact asked her to remarry..also how could he let Heer suffer letting her see him dying in front of her??
8. He kicked out Heer from Jzoo for his mom and had the gall to say that if his mom doesnt want Heer in the house then she will never come back.poor Prem..see at his pain too!!his mother whom he loved the most asked him to prove himself to her..bechara Prem we know how broken he was after that but life kept testing him😭
9. After he brought her back to Jzoo..and Veera drama happened...he didn't listen to Heer's and Nihaal's POV...even after knowing how much his sister hated Nihaal...he never bothered to ask. He was close to Nihaal...so why so blind?..

when did after coming back to home Heer try to tell Prem her POV??
10. Ignoring Heer after Veera's death...the way he did..was well heartwrenching...I felt really bad for Heer. Not to mention..him sleeping outside and not in their room..and also accusing her of lying for her brother.

My sister dies..,whom I loved a lot..she was the youngest in the family..a person was responsible for her death and it was my wife's brother,even after beating my sis,killing her child he was given another chance and what he did..he killed my sis!!Still my wife supported her brother..it was an accident acc. to her..,in reality her brother was giving his sis a surprise after his sis realized her mistake..wow and she tells me all this after she died..gr8..and still she asks me to believe that his bro was innocent who himself agrees for the crime commited..look at my mother-she is broken ... how can my wife not be mistaken??maybe she is still unable to see his brother's true colors..
11. Suspecting Heer with Rajveer...I give him credit for giving her so many benefit of doubt...Heer went OTT with the Sameer problem. She was wrong and very wrong to hide it from Prem for whatever reason. But it was also wrong of Prem to do a public drama over this and manhandling her.

Ok I agree completely here that though Heer gave him thousands of reasons to doubt her,Prem's behaviour was unjustified.
11. And last and the biggest problem...Prem with Ash...this is very painful for any person...and Heer toh she trusted him no matter what...in her eyes..Prem could do no wrong. And you have to admit..from her POV..it would look like Prem did that as a revenge...you slept with someone? I will too....I think that's what Heer thinks...coz she has never seen prem drunk has she?..

I agree that she was hurt but I dont think she would see it as a revenge..what Prem did was very wrong..seeing your husband sleeping with your cousin is really painful ..but for one mistake of his ,how could she forget all the good time they spent together and what all Prem did for her..just one mistake and you dont even punish your husband in two ways(keeping him away from yourself and your child) but also your child..isn't the six years of aloneness enough??cant you still see his love-all the dialogues he said when he thought Heer was remarrying and before leaving for Canada..and what you do..you are still unable to forgive him and moreover threaten him to tell his truth to their 6 year old child..you dont let him meet his child even for once,infact you dont tell your child's name to him..

Now...thinking over all the points...why am I not surprised that Heer will prefer living alone with her dotty where she can be herself..(heer was very pressurised by Jzoo over Nihaal matter...she had to keep choosing one of the other) By living alone with her dotty...she has no pressure on her life...she has closed herself from Prem. She is happy and content...so why would she want to go in the house where she never had a moment of peace? And with Prem.. his family will always be there...he wont break those strings...

I think the family is the second major reason to distance herself from Prem. Can't say I blame her anymore...

Originally posted by: Soaps1

I don't know the team's point of view but my judgement is based on what i saw ... he didn't repent being with Heer not at ALL!!! Yes he was sad because he had to leave his family that he dearly loved but not for a moment did he repent being with Heer instead ... its totally unfair to judge him like this! He left his family for heer didn't he? If he repented he could go back why didn't he???

He did repent...and Heer having her sister with her has nothing to do with this...his family was with him..away but still with him..only lallu was against him...I don't think I judged him at all...I just told the truth..I don't see how it's being totally unfair to him. He left his family? Are you kidding me? His bauji kicked him out! Do you honestly think prem would have caught Heer hand after mandap drama and dragged her away from Jzoo? he loved the family too much to even think of that..and even when lallu told him to leave...he cried and asked how he can be away from them all.

That way when heer pretended to have a lost memory she hurt him too didn't she? Both of them have always done for eachother what they thought was right so i don't see why heer would be hurt!

Heer's memory drama was a backlash of Prem repenting..so cannot blame her. She just wanted to give him what he wanted..his family.

Yea but he was the first one to admit key vishwas hum donoun ka kamzor hey wasn't he? Heer doubted him in sanjana matter as well and she admitted "mey ney pata nahi kia kia soch liya tha" so why blamme only Prem???

Nope..she did give him her benefit of doubt and her trust remained unshaken till the last..she never said or questioned if he had an affair with Sanjana..only when she realized how much prem is bothered by it..did she ask him what's the matter.

Yea cause he thought he was dieing and didn't want to hurt heer again ... and mind you he came back only for heer not his family not even his mother who was a vegetable! He came back only when heer was in trouble for no body else

What could he do? He thought he was dieing hurting heer as GS was better than hurting her as Prem ... i am not saying he was right or wrong but if heer judges him on the basis of this she is not being fair

I accepted that didn't I? That he came back for her? But instead of giving her his priority by spending the time he had left with her, he wanted to go away...not for her but for his family. Heer already knew he was dying so how in world will her pain lessen? She would have just kept wondering if he is alive or not...and if today was his last day...his last breath.

Yes he did ask her to leave only because he thought its temporary and he had enough faith in his relationship to believe heer will understand him ... and he did bring her back despite his mom not wanting it i think you have forgotten that

Temporary? That's no reason to kick out your wife at all...and I am appalled that you would defend him for this. Members in this forum need to learn when Prem should be defended and when not. and I have not forgotten anything...he went against his mom sure but he had already hurt heer by then. Heer has my sympathies for this...I cannot imagine what not taunts and whisperings she must have gone through coz of her hubby kicking her out of their home in middle of the night.

Nehal himself accepted everything what could Prem do? And in nehal matter heer was at fault too when she went on to give witness in nehal's favor without taking Prem into confidence ... but despite that his anger with her didn't last for more than a day ... his love for her never lessoned and even when nehal admitted he killed veera ... heer's arms were his only place of comfort

I never said his love lessened and he was wrong...I said he should have taken time to talk it out with Heer and not let this matter strain their relationship...which he did.

His sister was dead ... nehal admitted he killed her you expect him to be in his senses and be normal ? He ignored heer? ummm when veera died where did he go for comfort?

This was before Veera dying Soapie..not after.

Yes it was wrong and if this is one of the reasons in heer's mind i can take it ... even though heer was equally at fault

I am ok with her POV on this but still hiding abt chahat for this reason is wrong and not justified

I never said Heer is right in keeping Chaahat from Prem..I just said that it's easier for me to understand her POV and bitterness now.

i am sorry but accept the last two points ... if heer considers other points for not wanting to go back then she never ever understood Prem ... and is being totally unfair to him and his love and if this is indeed the case then there is no love and no love story ... she should stay where she is cause she has got Prem totally wrong

Prem is human..he is no God...Heer has never got him wrong..so there is a lovestory and there is love but right now hidden under bitterness and guilt, they are both wrong...am not saying Heer is wrong but just explained her POV..and that too not official...it's JUST MY POV over Heer's feelings...you need to chill out Soapie and not take anyone saying against Prem so personally. I could almost feel and rage and resentment in your replies😵

Originally posted by: kamx2

I am totally with Triv and Bul3 on this...sorry I dont visit this forum very often so I dunno ur names😃

And I think Heer's actions are justified

Originally posted by: -Triv-

No..she was wrong to hide about Chaahat from Prem...but I was trying to understand Heer's POV and even though Ash ka chapter is her biggest reason to distance herself from Prem...I think everything Prem has done to her till now are the reason for her not wanting to go back to him...

This is totally my POV...

Prem has always kept his family above Heer..not because he doesn't love her...he loves her the most but because he is so sure and confident of her love. That she won't leave him ever. Why else did he remove her from Jzoo and never even apologized?

What has Prem done to Heer to hurt her:

1. Repent being with Heer..when Lallu kicked him out..he wanted to be with his family...and this is not MY POV only...a certain someone from the team did confirm that yes he did repent.

yes triv agreed...he did repent and heer came to know of it....rem before leaving for ajmer she told meher abt it........." prem ko lagta hai ki ussey bahut badi galti ho gayi hai....aur uski yehi galti meri sharmindgi ban gayi hai"
2. Refuse to marry Heer...it was for her own good from his POV...but he did hurt her.

yes...very true......

3. Not believing her about Veera..he had his reasons but still...

again...heer kept on saying...but he believed veera

4. After surviving Bomb Blast, he didn't go back to her...for the silliest reason of a hole in his heart/brain.🥱
5. He intended never to go back to her..but wait to die..and only came out when he came to know about RR-Heer marriage.

well here also he was wrong to some extent........but not totally........
6. He married her and then acted like GS, money minded git. He hurt her a lot during this stage..taunting and stuff.agreed
7. He kept trying to leave her even after she came to know the truth...this was the cowardliest thing done by Prem..instead of spending the time he had with Heer..he preferred to give his FAMILY less pain by telling them he was GS and leaving Heer.

yes...it was a clear case where he put his family before heer......
8. He kicked out Heer from Jzoo for his mom and had the gall to say that if his mom doesnt want Heer in the house then she will never come back.

this was an unforgivable act of prem.........i will never forgive him for that...if it would've been his own decision...i would have somewat understood...but throwing ur spouse out of ur house on being asked by someone else was just not done.......and that too hrs of consummating ur marriage,........

9. After he brought her back to Jzoo..and Veera drama happened...he didn't listen to Heer's and Nihaal's POV...even after knowing how much his sister hated Nihaal...he never bothered to ask. He was close to Nihaal...so why so blind?

well....maybe he had his own reasons......

10. Ignoring Heer after Veera's death...the way he did..was well heartwrenching...I felt really bad for Heer. Not to mention..him sleeping outside and not in their room..and also accusing her of lying for her brother.

yes...agreed...that was very wrong of prem...if he had lost his sis and was hurt....heer was hurt too.....

11. Suspecting Heer with Rajveer...I give him credit for giving her so many benefit of doubt...Heer went OTT with the Sameer problem. She was wrong and very wrong to hide it from Prem for whatever reason. But it was also wrong of Prem to do a public drama over this and manhandling her.

yes...this was something that prem could've talked to heer behind the closed doors of their bedroom......

11. And last and the biggest problem...Prem with Ash...this is very painful for any person...and Heer toh she trusted him no matter what...in her eyes..Prem could do no wrong. And you have to admit..from her POV..it would look like Prem did that as a revenge...you slept with someone? I will too....I think that's what Heer thinks...coz she has never seen prem drunk has she?
yupp....heer thinks exactly this.....no wife will tolerate such behaviour

Now...thinking over all the points...why am I not surprised that Heer will prefer living alone with her dotty where she can be herself..(heer was very pressurised by Jzoo over Nihaal matter...she had to keep choosing one of the other) By living alone with her dotty...she has no pressure on her life...she has closed herself from Prem. She is happy and content...so why would she want to go in the house where she never had a moment of peace? And with Prem.. his family will always be there...he wont break those strings...

I think the family is the second major reason to distance herself from Prem. Can't say I blame her anymore...

yes...the day prem realises this....the better for him.....