2, 3 jul '09: big things, little things - Page 3

Originally posted by: estee

*sigh* kinda. i want to... i think.

i'm - weary of the whole struggle thing. does that make sense?

and now? going back to the beginning? thinking 'bout the struggle is making me feel exhausted! after six years of these two (forgeous, ought-to-be-happy-forever) people being - empty on the inside, now they have to struggle all over again??!

prem-heer are making me feel seriously sad. 🤔😒

hmm... or maybe it's pms?? 😆

i dunno.. w&w, i guess.

Originally posted by: KDHMDfan

E! YOU were thinking of quitting the show?????? can't believe i am reading right.

😆 why?? oooh, 'cause you tihnk i've cracked epe -- and am showing off at having gotten the beter of it? 😆 rest your heart at ease -- the epe is going strong. it's the story that i'm beginning to feel a strong enough irritation with that i want to ... do a violent act on it's bum! 😛

have dug up your old post and now ophicially applied for IHP club membership after seeing that last shot! think i need to be a fully signed up member now! Plzz accept.

😆 oh really??! my gosh! you are seriously affected then! but ya, sure. if you've read the manifesto, you must know that we don't turn any one away.. so don't worry on that score. you are most welcome there... i'd be most interested to read your ''case history''... 😆

have phun... 😃

Originally posted by: -Nansy-

EEEEEEE


i just wanted to say I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!

🤗 moree hugssss to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Luv Nans

Originally posted by: estee

i am soooo not happy with it! i want to know why sooner than they are telling us, radz. i do. am i being a totally painful ms. impatience here?? is this just me suffering from everyone -- prem-n-heer, the show, smits on destiny, you on milna-hi-tha -- keeping me waiting to know what happens to the end of the story??! am i totally losing it?? why does it seem like i'm obsessed with knowing why this has taken six damned years??! 😕

I'd say you're being a little impatient. 😆 In time, everything will be revealed, on the show, on Destiny, on MHT (which I really need to write more of.. ) If they reveal everything now, then the show will need more twists and turns, and weird plots to keep us hooked, or at least, that's what the writers will assume, and do we really want that?

*sigh* and i think that all of heer's (front-end) changes are understandable. on the surface of it, i find nothing wrong with heer -- not with prem either. i just want to know... never mind. i guess between this paragraph and the previous one, neither of us know the answer to my old question any better, no? 😆

Even I want to know how they've come to this place. Only difference is, I'm taking it as it comes, enjoying it as though it's a new show, because I don't have anyone at home to complain to. And because I'm not sure I'll be able to watch it this coming week. (I do hope so though!)

oh, i'm not sure i do not like yuvraj. i certainly think his voice is a lot weaker than prem's. and i haven't seen anything of his character that helps me figure out what kind of person he is. he did seem a little forward for a mere client of a wedding planner - so perhaps there is an older relationship there -- after all, even the woman who came in as ladkay-waley cradled heer's face with some affection.

I think there is a back story between Yuvraj and Heer, I really hope he's a good friend of hers, because it would make so much sense. I mean, so what if it were the second wedding she's planning, she'd only really be that happy if it were someone she knew and cared about right? So I think she may have an older relation with Yuvraj and Soni, one that I hope they play on. (Maybe jealous Prem is in the pipeline?)

sigh. and here's where i totally disagree with you. nothing makes sense to me -- 'specially the changes in the family. 'specially this family. six years, radz!!! six years is like forever! it's like going from 12 to 18 years old!!! i mean, c'mon!!! if the only thing that had happened six years ago was heer's leaving in that train and prem's promising to wait for her -- nothing about where the juneja's are today is realistic! no? 😕

gaaah... maybe i just need some more sleep.

That is not the only thing that has happened six years ago. More must have happened. I mean, Harman became a househusband, there are more kids in the family, so people got -er, busy. 😆 For three years Gayatri has been breaking her fast with a photo, Preet is not talking to Prem. Something must have happened. I think, maybe Gayatri's truth came out to the family, and while some have (sort of) forgiven her, others have not. And therein lies more to the complexity of the changes in the family. I do hope they give us flashbacks of the past six years though, it'd be more realistic and entertaining.

Cheer up E! Don't give up, not yet. *hug*

Love,
Radz

Originally posted by: hope08

FIrst of all you were going to quit the show?? you are faking like Prem did the whole GS thing, right?

😆 hope... actually, if there's one thing i'd like to promise, it's that i'll try to never fake prem during the whole gs thing! that was awful... 😆

Giving you the benefit of the doubt I think you, like all of us, are not in the right frame of mind after watching Prem.

y'know? seeing that shot of prem and the extent to which he was just set up to be that gorgeous -- matched by that look of ... shocked anticipation? on heer's face -- made me even more angry. just as i felt mad watching the phhandoohs on the night that prem sindoored heer and snatched victory right from under ratpal's nose. there was something so deliberate about those shots. and i know, i know! these two are the show's usp, they should use them to the max. is just... i dream of prem, heer, prem-heer-are-one in the loveliest story in the world.

i deserve to feel occassionally wretched, don't i? 😆 at least, that's what pcp tells me...

ok now coming back. Like you I too want to know what the heck happened in the Juneja family that has torn them apart? Why don't these guys talk to each other or their father? I guess we may or may not get the ans for these qus.

man! i hope they don't leave us hanging on these questions -- 'cause it's precisely why the show really irritates me just now. pcp tells me i'm being more than just a little silly in expecting all these answers right in the starting week of the tls. but getting answers to none of these questions is tough. getting the sense of this overbearing overwhelming focus on how gorgeous these two look, and no-one is even bothered about such questions is beginning to stifle me.....😛 *see why i need to take a break from this show? 😆*

Gaya3 thing: if she does then why hasn't she done anything to improve the situation, if she doesn't then why hasn't she tried to find out? BTW where is she taking LJ for treatment?

the only way i can rationalise the first question is -- that by the time everyone found out, it was too late. heer was either dead/had vanished -- although, prem accepting that heer has ''vanished'' is tough to believe, no? how can he stop looking for her? and prem can't believe she is dead? how is his heart beating then?

which is what then brought me to the ''prem-heer-are-already-divorced'' option in my wtf...

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1208204

LJ thing: he's a broken man, isn't he? in body and soul.

broken? i got the sense that he was bitter, no? infinitely bitter. 'cause he'd have to be infinitely bitter to have lasted six darned years this way?? *i just can't believe the length of time involved here...*

Don't know about the prasad and earth thing but I feel the ganga jal he mentioned was Heer. He wants Prem to bring back Heer who will cleanse the whole family and will also help his soul rest in peace.

that's what shifali said too in her post, btw. here:

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1208209

in fact, she has a rather nice link to lj's request to all of them being -- bring back heer. what i liked about that, was that he sees this as a way to unite his sons in a common goal?

Prem thing: How long will he have to pay for something he's not done, how long?

y'know what irritates me 'bout prem just now?? that he has accepted that he has done it. and apparently chooses to be away from india (heer?).

*ouch! that got me a thump on the head from pcp who reminds me that i've not yet been told why prem is in canada away from india(heer) and to just shut up 'bout being irritated with prem! ouch! this got me another thump.. 😡*

Premmmmm why are you so good?

prem why are you not good and smarter!!?! *ouch! stop hitting me!!!* ya, the one thing that came through loud and clear was how he lives with heer, and about heer, in his head all the time.

and btw, more than prem telling preet not to travel at night, i loved how preet was unable to leave from his pb -- as harman did. i loved how preet -- even against his stronger feelings -- did turn back and inform pb about what everyone is going to do. in that one moment, i loved preet. and ... just admired prem's jawline as he grouched that he would go to haridwar that same night too! so there! 😆

Heer thing: the only way i can explain this new hip hop Heer is that she's too high on sugar. all the mithai tasting is taking its toll on her.

well, that might be part of it. but i approve of this heer transformation -- even without elaborate explanation, she comes across as a much more ''right'' character for heer just now than prem ever did in his hip-hop avatar. and btw, just as that prem got an h-prepended to his name, i think we should call this heer prancing heer, no? that way she gets to be p-heer! 😆 whether she is the wedding planner, or the bride, her being cheerful makes immense sense to me. she has spent five years in delhi -- amongst women like that punjaban who told her about ''hotel delhi international'' on the phone -- and she just makes soooo much sense. 'cause these people can be quite formidably vocally ... cheerful! although, i'd always thought that heer would turn out to be more like her mother teji as she grew older. but then, teji never had to go out and work and support herself, no? and teji was in ambala -- heer's in delhi -- where if you aren't pushy, you get pushed over. 😆

no, i agree heer is now prancing heer. but she makes total sense. 'specially when the winds quietened her back to the old prem-heer-are-one heer... 😍

d'you know? prem was never ''right'' as hip-hop? not when he was by himself. not when he met heer. not when he was photographing heer at shiv mandir. never. he was never right as hip-hop, was he? hmmmm...

Yuvraj thing: boy is he excited about his wedding or what? or is too excited about meeting heer? why do i get the feeling that he did fancy heer but she got him hooked to Soni instead? rather than love i saw a lot of admiration in Yuvraj's eyes when he met her.

ooh, interesting. could be -- that would explain that look on his face when he met heer, i think. and of course, the reason that he gave up was this imprenetable wall 'round heer. even as p-heer, she'd have been deflecting all attempts for anyone else to get to her... and no, i had no eyes for anyone other than heer and her prem when the winds started blowing and puffing hair... like it used to in the olden days... 😆

*sigh* 'xcept... i think i'd rather watch those than see a rehash of 'em today... 😍

*ouch! will you please stop hitting me??!!!*

Originally posted by: -Triv-

Ahhh..E..sometimes you need to work extra hard for a happily ever after...I know a writer who writes for movies and we were discussing eternal love and how it can be broken due to a mere MU..and he told me that the more you struggle for your love, the more strong and unbreakable your love gets...sometimes a relationship needs to be broken to become more unbreakable😃That's why I decided to give the show a second chance...I am sure they will explain what happened in those 6 years, just W&W.😊

triv... 🤗

y'know? if we start with a pair of lovers -- whether they are meant to be eternal lovers or not -- i think that parts of what you wrote makes sense?

like that when you have to struggle for it, it just gets stronger?

but this is prem-heer, triv. they've done nothing but struggle for each other. and now i realise, their struggle has been just to be together.

'cause after everything that i've watched prem and heer do for and to each other, their being one has never, ever shaken since the first time that heer stood up and walked into jail without a thought for prem, and prem grabbed her and told her that he was in love with her, damnit! *that last and crass word is mine, of course. prem said everything so much beautifully... 😍*

they've fought everything and everybody! and that is not a light statement -- i made a checklist in the last two wtf's and that bit about ''everyone and everything'' is pretty darned much true!

and what's more they've done all this without breaking prem-heer-are-one even once. they have been plenty stoooopid about what they've done. but love is not always smart, i think, and i'm okay with that.

this ''misunderstanding'' thing is not for prem and heer, triv. they are warriors beyond that.

ask your writer friend if there can be any misunderstanding that can shake and shatter both prem and heer's faith in each other's love for the other. tell them the whole story. and then ask -- it's just not ... well, it's not something that makes sense to me.

prem leaving india for canada doesn't make sense to me.

there has to have been not just ''any simple misunderstanding'' that made that happen. it had to be the mother of all misunderstandings. and as i wrack my brain tyring to figure out and remember ''misunderstandings'' from all the stories that i know, there is nothing that can match up as something to break the prem-heer-are-one that i've been watching all the way upto last friday -- 06/25/09.

this weeks' shows were totally bizarre to me. 'kay, given how beautiful prem and his heer were, maybe i should say ''surreal'' rather than bizarre?

does any of this make sense? does it convey anything that i feel -- other than that i appear to be suffering from a severe case of verbal diarrhoea? 🤣

Originally posted by: sonu0511

thanks

you're welcome, sonu. i'm glad you liked it...🤗

Originally posted by: Soaps1

I will keep it short just 2 points:

🤣 me will try hard to match you in shortness.

I am extremly disappointed in Preet ... he is no longer the God of smiles for me

i am not. preet has always been the most ''real world'' character. and even if i don't understand him having kept this anti-pb-attitude for six years, i feel better about that than prem having left india and stayed away for six years. and preet's smiles still rock everything!

The chirpy Heer is very irritating for me ... more irritating than even HHPrem

well, poor you. but regardless of irritating you or not -- one thing appears certain: prancing heer (p heer! 🤣) has good reasons for prancing. that i can figure -- even without knowing her entire background.

otoh, hip-hop was totally idiotic, and even after knowing everything about that phase of prem --- completely without any raison d'etre! man, was he insane!

ok bye 🤣

'kay bye back!!! 🤣

Originally posted by: estee