1 jun '09: big things, little things - capped! :D

I did! I did! I remembered Prem's 'tum sochti kuch ho...' (and I should have, considering I've watched that scene over 50 times). Then, I was fiercely happy that the dialogue writer hadn't changed since the beginning.

Originally posted by: estee

* little estee-mind-trick thing: er... did anyone else get a sudden picture flashing in their mind -- of heer quietly leaving a peacefully, happily sleeping prem, removing his hand from hers and putting it on his chest; tucking the blankets 'round him a little more firmly; brushing his hair away from his forehead; smiling lovingly at him before turning away with a sigh as she remembered that she had a ''samir'' blackmailing problem to solve?

er... no one else?? *sigh* i'm diseased... 🤔

Originally posted by: estee

hee hee. no, no, that's not my opinion about the show today in general. just chuckling to myself thinking 'bout the director for this show. hee hee. i mean, can you imagine the stuff he has to take with him on the set every day for a prem-heer shot? the script, his notes.. a ruler! 🤣 confused? hee hee. go and check the ''director's tools thing''. hee hee. the things that this show makes me write up... hee hee.

* little thing: hmm. hmm. hmm. i am sooo applying for the job of helping prem into his baby pink shirt. that shirt is making it's appearance after such a long time on the show - the first time was my most favourite boss-prem ever! the one who gave the rose to housekeeping employee heer... ai hai, mar jaawaaaaan... ☺️omg estee! you have a real good memory!

* little thing: oooh, thanks for the answer to my question in the wtf -- so, prem just didn't say anything to heer after she got back from the ''samir'' meeting? er... well, not talking does not mean that they didn't ... er ... cuddle and kiphph when they went to bed that night, no? *smacking myself on the forehead -- i can't believe it just wrote that!!* 😆

yes! you just wrote that!...btw even i was wondering......if prem did not speak to heer that night...wth did he do! i mean can you imagine prem wasting one whole night!...no prem is not those types who wastes nights😉😆😆...he did do something productive!...but the million dollar wuestin is....what did he do?

* big thing: just how sweet was prem to heer today? y'know? i think that hope was the one who said that we needed to see prem stand up for heer the way that she always has for him. and i think that's just what he is doing... and it's so sweetly done. he was sooo not putting any pressure on her. 😍 to the extent that even if she had wanted to tell him something, he wouldn't allow her! 😍😍my prem!😍😍

*sigh* poor prem -- is he that afraid to hear heer not tell him the truth again? is he so sure that she will lie to him??

this reminded me of the time that heer lied to prem to save him -- getting jailed on prostitution charges herself -- and how prem shouted at her saying ''kyun kiya tumney aisa''? 😍 *really... he says it soooo nicely... 😍* and then he fought with himself in the rain, and came to realise that of course! heer couldn't have done it -- she had lied to save him. is it the memory of that time that is giving prem the strength to ignore the fact that heer is being furtive with him? is it also the memory of all the things she has done for him while he was not around? *sigh* all of it very profound and very 😍 of prem... *smacking myself on the head to get me out of that stooopid silly 😍-prem mode! geez, estee, grow up!!* 😆

* little thing: so when prem said ''bolthi kuchcho ho, karti kuchch ho'' who else immediately did a flashback to that incindiery moment last year when heer discovers prem snooping in muckmeet's stuff? and they have that complete melt-your-brain-down 15 second moment where prem grinds out ''kyun heer, kyun? tum sochtey kuchch ho, maantey kuchcho ho, chahtey kuchch ho, dektey kuchch ho! aisa kyun hai, heer? kyun?''

omg i did!.......i was waiting for a repeat of the whole dialogue!..but what was missing was.......his clenched jaws...and the stern look in his eyes.........i swear last year i had dropped my jaw at his look

need help remembering? here... it's totally... oooooh-er!!

(credit: kdmhmd@if.com, picture archives,

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=879394TPN=16)

(hey. gee! that was a 2nd june 2008 episode... gee.)

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know w'thing? in that moment above, even if i had heard prem's voice saying ''ai, hai, mar jawaan'', it wouldn't have mattered. in fact, nothing other than prem's voice there would've mattered at all! ☺️

* big thing: hmmm. no matter that she resolved not to give in to any more blackmailing without talking to prem, heer's ... not going to talk to prem. *sigh* well, looks like at least heer has reached her ''manzil'' -- as she defined it. where heer has become prem. who will hold gayatri-mom above everyone -- including prem?

and i wondered: is heer not telling prem 'cause she is more loyal to gayatri-mom? or 'cause she wants to keep ''samir'' away from prem, 'cause she doesn't want prem to get upset? oh, and before anyone jumps up and says that prem would never have done such an accident -- remember that this is a heer who has just finished one episode of rescuing her kiran jiju from an ''hit-'n-run'' accident caused by one young mr. juneja!

* hopeful little thing: so, does anyone else think that their not openly discussing ''samir'' is just prem-heer following the rules on keeping their bedroom - er.. house 😆 free of hotel work? 😆 no?

'cause the way prem kept going on and on 'bout ''samir'' being a lowly employee got me a little puzzled. i mean, heer didn't tell him anything, no? then how does he know that she left for a lowly employee, hmmmm? or in his world, is anyone other than heer and his family all lowly beings? 😆

* little thing: 'kay, who else totally giggled when prem said ''yeh kiskey khiloney hai?'' that ''hai?'' sounded soo non-prem and sooo hc! 😆

😆😆😆

but part of me was giggling at the thought of prem sitting in heer's old bedroom, collecting all her toys, looking all chabbu... tho thweeet! *smacking myself in the head -- i cannot believe i just wrote that!!*

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* phhandooooooooooh thing: omg! that must've the shortest, most off center phhandooh that has been so very potent! the way one simple grabbing and intertwining of male fingers into female fingers just flipped a moment from being childish-play between a boy and girl, all surrounded by cuddly toys and old photographs to being a ''fog-my-eye's-lenses'' meltdown phooooooooooooooh moment! omg! those fingers just have to be insured... 😍😍😍

y'know? s'times, i think that there's a phrule somewhere that when phhandooh happens, pheyeoooh has to happen. and if the inter-ph-distance is under six inches, then phnoseoooooh has to happen too!! *man, do i need to find the phhandoooh-at and update phrules - which stand for the ''rules of physics''! 🤣*

yes...its such a premeer thing naa😍😍the way prem uses his nose....i can bet no other actor on indian telly has ever done it!....😍😍

* kdmhmd director's tool-kit thing: hee hee. actually, i'm not sure i'm really laughing since that phoooooooooooooooooh moment. 'cause i have been in acute misery having to do everything in mostly goop-form.

but does anyone else get the sense that these people actually measure how close phlips can get without actually getting involved in a kiphph????? i mean, C'MON ALREADY**!!! i was sorely tempted to get pcp to pull out the last one month of shows, where near-kiphphs have happened, and actually measure the distance between that pair of prem-heer appendages! totally ridiculous! their hands can do kuchch-bhi and their lips get to go forward each near-kiphph at a nano-inch or s'thing??

prem, heer? kiphph already!!!! *feeling most exhausted at being caught between giggling helplessly and trying to tear my hair out as a pile of goop.*

* prem thing: 'kay, while prem sounded very cute pretending to be a babbling brook when that call came to interrupt their kiphph (hmph!), did anyone else think that it was very ... unprem-ish? 'cause it felt like the after effects of having been ''hip-hop'' for a while, no? 😆

* heer thing: ooooh! ''at this moment, there is no more important work than you.''. double entendre much? she's keeping her focus on trying to work out the threat to prem's happiness and keeping her promise to prem that work stays out of their bedroom? oooh, good going, heer. 😆 er... wanna try just getting prem into this one and seeing whether that works better than the jail-sacrifice thing? 😃

highlight of the episode: koi shaq? that brilliant 15-second phhandooooooooooooh that made childish-phooooooh to a pure adult-phooooooooooh! 😆 um.... prem in that pink shirt.... without a blazer.... *siggghhhh*😍😍😍

**: sorry for shouting, but really i couldn't help myself there... i hope you understand... 🤣

yess yess we do😆

Originally posted by: DECENT--DIYA

thx 4 ur bt,lt

Originally posted by: -Bee-

I did! I did! I remembered Prem's 'tum sochti kuch ho...' (and I should have, considering I've watched that scene over 50 times). Then, I was fiercely happy that the dialogue writer hadn't changed since the beginning.

😲 over 50 times?!! you are brave bee!! 😆

I had half a mind to send a polite but firm request to the show saying that if they did not kiss, we would lose it... (perhaps in different words). But, do you also notice that in the past few months there have been quite a LOT of near-kiphpheph (😆)?

polite?? you are planning a polite request??? i'm scratching through all the pitiful savings i have to hire trivy-and-the-mnstrz to scoot over to the studios and have goaty and her crowd do a morcha, er... raise a stink! 😆 *which goats can do very effectively, didja know?* and get them to finish the darned job they keep starting and leaving undone!!! *grrr*

Btw, just a small question, have you seen the caps that our LuGods (Nans and Khushi) were kind enough to take and post just an hour after the epi? In the process reducing us to phrooling phwooning phools?

😆 mod-am happiness and ms. bliss?? lugods?? ab kya hai?? 😆

Okay, about Prem and Preet's reactions, I found it very strange that they both were smiling so happily about sending Veera back to a man that supposedly abuses her. (I'm just trying to see it from a point of view of a brother who doesn't know the truth. I HOPE they do).

me too. 'cause that's the only way i can understand their reaction too. or! *thinking* maybe they're thinking of what heer had said: that nihaal just slapped her once. not over and over. and they (knowing veera at least a little bit, i hope!) know how prone she is to exaggeration? *sigh* i hope, i hope..

Also, I found Heer excusing Veera's abortion a bit irritating. I remember you saying it once (in a bt,lt) before, but I wish Heer showered a bit more love on her own siblings, than she does on the Junejas.

i know!! and i was fiercely glad that lalit-juneja put her to right quickly, and heer said no more after that. y'know? i can (sometimes) understand prem taking heer for granted (kinda, 'kay?) 'cause maybe he thinks that he will have the rest of his life to shower himself and all he has to offer on her. i can't think of a similar reason for why heer would do it to her sister and brother.

Also, I wish that BOTH Prem and Heer find a better god than Gayatri-turned-Gementor. Both follow her blindly, and they need to find a replacement. I mean, look here! Look at our LuGods!

😆 i know!! and if the lugods don't wanna play the god-role, i'm happily offering myself as a replacement! i don't want money. or devotion above anyone else. i will make very phew demands. actually just one!

they'll just to come in front of me every monday morning and spend a minute kiphphing each other, after starting up with a phhandooh. that's it ... till the next monday morning.

see what i mean! i can be a really undemanding god compared to their current one... 😆

Originally posted by: estee

Hello again 🤣

* big thing: just how sweet was prem to heer today? y'know? i think that hope was the one who said that we needed to see prem stand up for heer the way that she always has for him. and i think that's just what he is doing... and it's so sweetly done. he was sooo not putting any pressure on her. 😍 to the extent that even if she had wanted to tell him something, he wouldn't allow her!

*sigh* poor prem -- is he that afraid to hear heer not tell him the truth again? is he so sure that she will lie to him??

this reminded me of the time that heer lied to prem to save him -- getting jailed on prostitution charges herself -- and how prem shouted at her saying ''kyun kiya tumney aisa''? 😍 *really... he says it soooo nicely... 😍* and then he fought with himself in the rain, and came to realise that of course! heer couldn't have done it -- she had lied to save him. is it the memory of that time that is giving prem the strength to ignore the fact that heer is being furtive with him? is it also the memory of all the things she has done for him while he was not around? *sigh* all of it very profound and very 😍 of prem... *smacking myself on the head to get me out of that stooopid silly 😍-prem mode! geez, estee, grow up!!*

I think Prem is deeply hurt by heer...............he knows she is hiding stuff from him ..... and i think he blammes himself for having shattered her confidence in him!!! He meant everything he said abt lieing and all when she was standing infront of the cupboard but yes he didn't want to push it too much so he changed the line and talked about her promise to show him around ambala ...... i also think that Prem knows bout gyatri's intentions as well.............. if he knows abt sameer or not remains to be seen......... but did you notice how painful he sounded when he said ""maa aap ham sab ka kitna khyal rakhti hey na?"" before leaving for court??? So for me he knows!

* big thing: hmmm. no matter that she resolved not to give in to any more blackmailing without talking to prem, heer's ... not going to talk to prem. *sigh* well, looks like at least heer has reached her ''manzil'' -- as she defined it. where heer has become prem. who will hold gayatri-mom above everyone -- including prem?

and i wondered: is heer not telling prem 'cause she is more loyal to gayatri-mom? or 'cause she wants to keep ''samir'' away from prem, 'cause she doesn't want prem to get upset? oh, and before anyone jumps up and says that prem would never have done such an accident -- remember that this is a heer who has just finished one episode of rescuing her kiran jiju from an ''hit-'n-run'' accident caused by one young mr. juneja!

I think Heer can not in her wildest dreams imagine that gyatri can tell a lie that too of this sort about Prem.....................so she has no choice but to believe that sameer is actually a blackmailer linked to something wrong Prem did in the past! And she is just protecting him!

As for the accident that send kiran jeju to jail.... wasn't it cleared up already that it was arranged by Prem to convince heer he is gaurav and is a bad guy???

* hopeful little thing: so, does anyone else think that their not openly discussing ''samir'' is just prem-heer following the rules on keeping their bedroom - er.. house 😆 free of hotel work? 😆 no?

'cause the way prem kept going on and on 'bout ''samir'' being a lowly employee got me a little puzzled. i mean, heer didn't tell him anything, no? then how does he know that she left for a lowly employee, hmmmm? or in his world, is anyone other than heer and his family all lowly beings? 😆

I dunno if he knows abt sameer or not but i think someone was listening yesterday when gyatri and heer were talking abt sameer......... who i dunno ............. i so wish its Prem

* little thing: 'kay, who else totally giggled when prem said ''yeh kiskey khiloney hai?'' that ''hai?'' sounded soo non-prem and sooo hc! 😆

but part of me was giggling at the thought of prem sitting in heer's old bedroom, collecting all her toys, looking all chabbu... tho thweeet! *smacking myself in the head -- i cannot believe i just wrote that!!*

Yea it was more like Harshad talking to Harsha (his sister) than Prem talking to heer 🤣


* prem thing: 'kay, while prem sounded very cute pretending to be a babbling brook when that call came to interrupt their kiphph (hmph!), did anyone else think that it was very ... unprem-ish? 'cause it felt like the after effects of having been ''hip-hop'' for a while, no? 😆

ummm no i found it to be quite Premish ........... and i am glad hip-hop Prem is finally begining to disappear slowly and i for one am really glad cause i am totally completely abnormally in love with old perfect Prem 😆

* heer thing: ooooh! ''at this moment, there is no more important work than you.''. double entendre much? she's keeping her focus on trying to work out the threat to prem's happiness and keeping her promise to prem that work stays out of their bedroom? oooh, good going, heer. 😆 er... wanna try just getting prem into this one and seeing whether that works better than the jail-sacrifice thing? 😃

That was so cheeky on heer's part... i kinda felt like ouch.... thats cheating no? Just to divert Prem's attention she started seducing But then i know heer can do anything to protect Prem and that is what she is doing in her opinion

* little thing: er... now who else is gementor targetting to hate heer? is she planning to systematically turn everyone against heer? or is it just ... um ... the guys that she wants to keep away from heer? er... and that too just the young ones? 😆

I think tonight we would get to hear ""uss heer ney mujh sey merey pati ko door kar diya "" 😆

* little thing: btw, wasn't that woman gayatri-mom's doctor? wasn't veera's doctor someone else? hmmm.

yup she was gyatri's doc not veera's 😆 the one who said all Prem memories had to be removed i hate her for even saying that 😆😆




* big thing: oh.... 'kay! i do. not. get. nihaal.

what the heck is he doing?? he totally rocked when he belitted vitchface in public -- what the heck is he trying now?? i seriously hope he has some devious trick up his sleeve and this is not the usual mahaan-maan nature showing up here??

ok i think nehal will today in order to avoid divorce will own up that he tortured veera and is sorry.... and will not do so in future and heer would stop Lalit from revealing the truth inorder to save veera's house....... and heer would be proven wrong again........... nehal is a looser and deserves every bit of veera 😡😡😡

and why the heck are prem-preet looking so happy at nihaal saying he doesn't want a divorce? if they believe that nihaal's been abusing their sister? or do they know that vitchface is a bare-faced liar??

i think Prem knows the truth and Preet is happy because thats what Lalit wanted 😆