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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: lghosh

Payal I couldn't have said it better the way u did here. I agree with all u said! Suddenly I am reading mesgs all over the forum sympathising with Heer & bashing Prem! I mean why? I thought maybe I missed out on something that these people didn't! Then when I read them I was really 😲😲! Why would any1 think knowing Prem that he would be doing everything purposely to make Heer cry & suffer just like that? He ought to have some solid good reason for whatever he is doing! He better have or else the creatives will be holding on to their last breath to see the next daylight of their lives!! He who cries with Heer, understands & feels her pains all throughout will willingly put her through all this misery? I mean why? Is that what we know of Prem?

I can't understand it either. Raksh and I were discussing the same, just yesterday. Everyone seems to be crying with Heer b/c we saw her pain, but no one is giving a second thought to Prem's pain. As you said, Prem would never purposely make her cry - this is the same guy that not only wiped her tears, but when he did, he encompassed them in his fist and held them close to his heart - how could he ever, for his own kicks, make her cry those tears that are so very precious to him, without damn good reason? (as you said, he better have damn good reason, or else, the creatives are in for it.) Prem would never hurt his Heer - and I am appalled to think that the others on the forum have been so misguided by the destructives to think that he could ever do all this and cause her pain and be okay with it himself. He is surely not okay with it, and he himself is dying a thousand deaths as he is doing all this. I think we just need to be patient and let the truth of his actions come out, and then we will see ourselves (hopefully, if the creatives don't make a royal mess of things) crying buckets with our beloved Prem.

U know I am so thankful to Raksha for putting that 'tone down Heer' post. After that she did took it down some notches & it got bearable or else I seriously would have left watching the show. She ought to know its her Prem just 2 feet across from her & yet she was blasting him left, right & center? Then how r u Prem's Heer? How can u be 1? How can u be his heartbeat? Really I was appalled to see this & the entire forum was supporting this! They killed Heer there! I know I am in for big trouble for saying so but really it hurt me to think nobody thought why Prem is doing this, what he must have gone through in his life after that blast to make him act & feel so!

I too am so very thankful to her for that post. It really did help things with Heer. I don't know if I oculd have tolerated that Heer any longer than we had to. That is not the Heer we knew - Indeed not Prem's Heer, and that is why I was so glad the other day when Prem went so far as to tell Heer that she perhaps has forgotten who she herself is. I think that had two meanings - one, she has changed, herself, as in her manerism, and 2, if she knew who she was, maybe she'd be able to see who he really was.
I cant' tell you how much it bothers me that he's not able to recognize Prem. I mean, she could here his mandolin from across continents when she hadn't even met the guy yet, but now can't feel his presence when he's in the same room? I find this very hard to believe. I too don't see how the creatives messed up the Premeer-are-one theory so badly. How can she be his Heer, how can they be one if she doesn't realize that he is her Prem, the other half to her whole?
And I completely agree with the bolded line above. Raksh and I have discussed this as well. Why is it that no one has questioned his whereabout for 2 months after the blast? Why is it that no one asked him what he went through and what all he's endured? I'm really really hurt by all this as well.

This is all the more reason I am mad with this creatives! Payal u ought to have written this in that 'should Heer forgive Prem' post, everyone would have understood the other side of the coin!

My list for why I'm mad at the creatives is endless now, I'm afraid.
As for the "should Heer forgvie prem" post, I must have missed that one....but yes, I wish others would see the flip side of the coin....😭

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Posted: 16 years ago
Payal & Shopaholic,
Felt so good sharing my views with u both. Felt a lot lighter. For the past few days it was suffocating me to think about the image of Prem being so tarnished that I was afraid it couldn't be retrieved back to its original self ever.
And Payal as usual when u write something it just feels u r voicing my feelings & thoughts, only u do it in a much better way. I Just hope people start realising Prem's side to all this as well.
Definitely we love Heer & hate to see her shed tears but also we love Prem & should analyse his side as well. Afterall they r one & will be one to me no matter what these creatives try to wash down our throats.
I don't want Prem to give reasons to Heer for his actions or give explanations but it is for MY sake I want to know why he did what he did, how he planned everything, all possible 'hows, when, why, where, what' for my benefit so that I can put them back on the pedestal where they belong.
And seriously I don't want to see this disease angle where again along with Heer we too will be crying in uproar. No matter how old this plot has been don't want to see it recycled here all over again. And another disgusting idea I read was Prem looking for heer's groom to substitute himself, that will the last nail in the coffin for me.
Seriously hope the creative come up with something better & logical this time to give us back our Premeer, specially Prem.
Lana.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: lghosh

Payal & Shopaholic,

Felt so good sharing my views with u both. Felt a lot lighter. For the past few days it was suffocating me to think about the image of Prem being so tarnished that I was afraid it couldn't be retrieved back to its original self ever.
And Payal as usual when u write something it just feels u r voicing my feelings & thoughts, only u do it in a much better way. I Just hope people start realising Prem's side to all this as well.
Definitely we love Heer & hate to see her shed tears but also we love Prem & should analyse his side as well. Afterall they r one & will be one to me no matter what these creatives try to wash down our throats.
I don't want Prem to give reasons to Heer for his actions or give explanations but it is for MY sake I want to know why he did what he did, how he planned everything, all possible 'hows, when, why, where, what' for my benefit so that I can put them back on the pedestal where they belong.
And seriously I don't want to see this disease angle where again along with Heer we too will be crying in uproar. No matter how old this plot has been don't want to see it recycled here all over again. And another disgusting idea I read was Prem looking for heer's groom to substitute himself, that will the last nail in the coffin for me.
Seriously hope the creative come up with something better & logical this time to give us back our Premeer, specially Prem.
Lana.



Lana,
I agree. I too am glad to find that others share my views on this Prem bit, and it has been nice to express my views on this with both you and Shopaholic as well. As for your views, I could say the same - i feel as though you are voicing my opinion. You had written in one of Raksh's posts last week (Thursday, I believe) that I still need and want to go back too -will do that shortly. But yes, I too hope people start to see Prem's side of it all, and soon. Because I truly believe that when Prem's reasoning is shown, we will all be weeping with him despite of what we are saying right now.
I too don't want Prem to have to give Heer any kind of reasoning b/c I know that Premeer are beyond that. They are beyond the need for explanations and forgiveness and all else, but, like you, I need the mystery to be unfolded, for me - for my own piece of mind.
And, I hope the creatives come up with something better than the disease thing too. Though, I can see them making Prem believe he has a disease, and then in the end, it all being some ploy of RRs and that Prem isn't really dying at all? Gosh, I dunno - again, I'm speculating, which I really try to refrain from doing b/c you never really know with BT and these destructives, so why bother? I guess we'll just ahve to W&W....but for all our sake, and for HC's sake b/c I don't know how much longer he's going to be able to keep me glued to my chair, I hope they think of something really really good to give us back the essence of Premeer (however much of it is salvageable, anyhow) and Prem.
Thanks to both of you! I'm off...will be back later...'til then, take care.
Love,
~P
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Posted: 16 years ago
@ I-P- i know right..-whyy O why are we discussing Lallu Taklu Chand Juneja uncle's diabetes meds..lolll and exactly we have to remember that this is Prem--he who held heer's tears clsoe to hsi heart--and for some reason now i think he led heer to rr's house and let heer to mumbai to get rr arrested...
and what he is going through in the process is uncomparable--if indeed he does know of this disease thing imagine having to return only to knwo you'll leave again, imagine having to stay away from the only person you have ever loved and trying to make her hate you; they had better not show prem in the hospital going there stealthily for chemo or else i m gonna be sooo angry
i doubt he'll die--i think he ll just endure the trauma of it till the end and then voila a hug, and he ll return to heer or sm miracle or smthng but creatives will torture us...
why do i feel as if all my sympathies are with Prem thinking of what he did go through and is going through----
agreed heer is going through a lot but its not measurable to prem;s pain---
again i do NOT want a disease scenario
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: shopaholicNY

@ I-P- i know right..-whyy O why are we discussing Lallu Taklu Chand Juneja uncle's diabetes meds..lolll and exactly we have to remember that this is Prem--he who held heer's tears clsoe to hsi heart--and for some reason now i think he led heer to rr's house and let heer to mumbai to get rr arrested...

and what he is going through in the process is uncomparable--if indeed he does know of this disease thing imagine having to return only to knwo you'll leave again, imagine having to stay away from the only person you have ever loved and trying to make her hate you; they had better not show prem in the hospital going there stealthily for chemo or else i m gonna be sooo angry
i doubt he'll die--i think he ll just endure the trauma of it till the end and then voila a hug, and he ll return to heer or sm miracle or smthng but creatives will torture us...
why do i feel as if all my sympathies are with Prem thinking of what he did go through and is going through----
agreed heer is going through a lot but its not measurable to prem;s pain---
again i do NOT want a disease scenario



S (can I simply call u that?),
I just want to DITTO all that you have mentioned above. Thank you, for taking the words straight out of my mouth.
His pain, if seen in this manner, is indeed, incomparable in measure with what we have seen Heer endure.
Prem going to the hospital for Chemo treatment? That's worse, I think, than what Lana said above about Prem finding some suitable groom for Heer to replace himself....or is it? 😭
Of course they will torture us, its what they do best. I do think that RR maybe planted this disease seed in Prem's head somehow....I mean, this is the only thing I can think...and that in the end, at long last, after all is said and done (months of torture, you see), it will all turn out not to be true, because again, why bring him back just to kill him off again?
And wow...you're actually nice to call him Lallu Taklu Chand Juneja uncle....I prefer Ullu ka Pattha!

And I agree - I too do NOT want a disease scenario. 😕

Love,
~Payal
Edited by IndianPari - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
and And I agree too - I too do NOT want a disease scenario . There is no show without Prem and heer, I hope this new creative know that
heer and prem wearing same clothes what they were wearing on march 19 and 20th 🤢
Edited by Jyotix - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: IndianPari



S (can I simply call u that?), yes off course--ok seeing that i should be looking at ECGs and studying arrhthmias or perhaps parkinsons(diff classes) i cant believe i am having Prem discussions with you--I blame Harshad😆
I just want to DITTO all that you have mentioned above. Thank you, for taking the words straight out of my mouth. no problem😛
His pain, if seen in this manner, is indeed, incomparable in measure with what we have seen Heer endure. well he has mentioned it so i m thinking he is numb--now i m just gonan be sad whenever i look at him--whatever he does--i m just gonan feel--aww poor baby what must you be feeling--and why do i think he wanted the money to divide it--half to the J zoo and half to the real GS's mom--again a scenario for he must be leaving --or must be ill plays out
Prem going to the hospital for Chemo treatment? That's worse, I think, than what Lana said above about Prem finding some suitable groom for Heer to replace himself....or is it? 😭 i swear if some dinosaur or monkey appears as prem's friend who shall "inherit" heer--i m gonna seriously give BT a piece of my mnd--chemo scenario though--*heart breaks into 10001 pieces*😭😭😭
Of course they will torture us, its what they do best. I do think that RR maybe planted this disease seed in Prem's head somehow..yes makes total sense and knowing ipshita's KAA history I bet this is the case--but again some1 injecting cytotoxic drugs when he is lied to and there is no disease--eeewwww😡🤢-brings me back to the disclaimer😆😆😆..I mean, this is the only thing I can think...and that in the end, at long last, after all is said and done (months of torture, you see)yes off course it is BT but hwo this will help TRPs I wonder😡, it will all turn out not to be true, because again, why bring him back just to kill him off again?being repetitive and redundant is BT's forte--now seriously i wish for all other scenarios except chemo and deathly illness scenarios--i ll bear with a g mom being -ve; but a prem illness will def make me cry--just like i cried for the first time ever for a tv actor when the cctv recording for heer was played--ok rilli again all harshad's fault
And wow...you're actually nice to call him Lallu Taklu Chand Juneja uncle....I prefer Ullu ka Pattha! LMAOOOO😆

And I agree - I too do NOT want a disease scenario. 😕 uugghhh BT should seriously die; their minds are diseased😡😡

Love,
~Payal

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Jyotix

and And I agree too - I too do NOT want a disease scenario . There is no show without Prem and heer, I hope this new creative know that
heer and prem wearing same clothes what they were wearing on march 19 and 20th 🤢



Thats just it jyoti, as sad as it may be, I don't think the new creatives really fully understand the concept of Premeer-are-one...if they did, we wouldn't be in this mess we're in right now.

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Posted: 16 years ago

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