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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: estee



um... "make a difference"? to what?
showing a kiss is a big taboo, showing a man writhing in pain, with an arm cut off, they can show


😲 mother??! who said anything about mother?? although....

in the ramayan, sita did give birth to her kids on her own, right? or am i remembering the wrong story? did ram banish her before knowing that she was carrying his babies? hmmm... must find out and come back to this.

but no, i didn't think of the pregnancy and carrying prem's child angle at all.. for me, it was just something that prem looked like he desperately wanted to do. um.. that's all? 😳

and i think there was a reference made to gayatri in this show -- didn't kooky catch heer carrying food to her mother-in-law's room?

dont know anything about the ramayan so i dont understand all the ram sita lakshman references, but apart from all my personal satisfaction about prem and heer having done it 😃, i was thinking more of the consequences of it 😉
did you catch the wtf today?

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1051659

havent read that wanted to comment back on this first, like it that you read these again and post comments too, and seriously i hope you find a career in writing not just for IF readers but lots more

*sigh* i hope that she doesn't either. i would love to see heer not cry but remain her usual stoic-heer self till prem gets back. i guess one or two breakdowns will be necessary -- i can imagine people getting offended if she doesn't!. *sigh* but heer? prem's heer? without prem? in my world, i'd have her dry-eyed, determined to do her responsibility, calm for everyone -- 'cause she knows that she has a job to do, and then it's up to join up with prem and being together happily - truly! - for ever after.
isnt it sad that people have certain expectations, for happiness for sorrow that we have to live by and i think it is more common in desi ppl, i am looking forward to seeing heer in a different role, hopefully she can copy harshad well enough or has learnt enough from him to keep us happy


i have a serious problem - when it comes to prem-heer, i have to watch everything. it's a disease i tell you!

but for the record? my mom thought it was very well done too - the joy of the dance, the sincerity of the joy of the dance and the switch back to the chaos. i don't think i handled it so well....



my serious problem is that i can watch happy romantic funny events, books, movies repeatedly, but sad and depressing i can bear maybe once, i would rather not read a book or watch a movie which i know will have a sad end, ok am going to read the wtf before i turn in for the night, maybe watch premeer before that too 😉
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: maya123


the 'looks' part would be cool - the rest do not think so



😆 oh yeah? lesseee..
- father of the indian nation -- hmm, yes, that would not be cool.. or even feasible, methinks! 🤣 poor prem! but considering that we have him running for the post of prez-of-india, that might be a good substitute?
- principle of non-violence -- not the creator, but the perpetrator? for sure! remember that one of the prem-heer party taglines is: make love, not war!
- as for the mostly-nude bit -- i see that we have consensus.

yeah, prem's gandhian. for shore. and not shayad. (which i notice that hc/ag say a lot -- is that a pune-ism?)
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Originally posted by: maya123

. just watching this made me so numb - the whole scene was just so shocking that for one moment i forgot about prem but started wondering how real blasts must feel to real people. does one ever forget it?



😭 i don't know. we are so lucky that we don't know. like mom said, it's cool that a tv-serial tries to remind us - no matter that it might be in a drama-sillyway - that we are.

Originally posted by: maya123

i think the scene that they showed us was like what happens minutes after the blast - it does take a good couple of minutes before emergency response does arrive



dunno. i am told that in the capital, becaues of the high politician density, the armed forces and the emergency units are much more on their toes than any where else. by the time that prem's staggering around looking sooo heartbreakingly lost, there should've been some response?? should've been! 😡 or maybe i am just getting mad at the reality of there not being... i dunno. these episodes left me feeling angry for a long time - at lots of things! 😡

Originally posted by: maya123


so for him to have helped the lady is part of all that he is. and here we have to have the 'i hate prem' slogan - because had he not been so adamant about helping the lady; he would have been 'alive'


*sigh* it was difficult to even think the hate-word together with prem even in the bt,lt let alone my head. i think this was a mein-bhagwan-nehi-hoon-and-i'm-lying prem moment...

Originally posted by: maya123


thought the same thing!! - they should at least have shown SOME people helping others - pretty human right?


'specially 'cause in india, it's always the case that there are some people running to help! they... grrrr... i'm getting mad again at the very thought!

Originally posted by: maya123


was it his fear of heat - but in such circumstances does the instinct of saving oneself and running away from the heat not take over??? I did not get that scene...


tell me about it... i think it was a quiescent period of hopelessness before the adrenalin kicks in. unless there was something he could see that we couldn't about why no amount of adrenalin would help? whatever it was. that was a very unsettling moment...

Originally posted by: maya123


do not think so - i mean such things are big things (😆😆😆) in any bt show and they become something really that would have been shown, i think.



oh, i think it will be shown. i think they know exactly how depressed the audience would get. frustrated. angry. and in the middle of all that, they'll show heer remembering her precious little moments with prem. very mean, but very very effective to make us watch? i dunno... mebbe (as tends to be the case most often) i am exactly wrong. 😊

Originally posted by: maya123


i liked how they showed the scene between the 2 sisters, funny enougb the creatives hardly ever show any conversations between the two sisters - i would have thought they were closer than what they have been shown to be - they have been so much together - instead they show us people that we do not care about..


😡 tell me about it! how to convince this gang-that-can-sometimes-shoot-olympic-gold-medal-straight that a one-year soap drama story can just be woven around a set of six people and it can work beautifully??? instead we get veera-maya kind of caricatures, that have been done a million times over with nothing new in them tossed in our faces. grrrrrrr .... 😡

Originally posted by: maya123


were the eye movements not supposed to be because of all the flashbacks he was having - so many thoughts all at once....😭😭


don't know... so difficult to see those eyes without heer's eyes locking them down...

Originally posted by: maya123

hopefully at a later stage it may be shown that he fought to live just for heer - reminded me of his dialogue that he once said ' tum sukhi hogi to mein chain se mar sakonga' - he will ony welcome death if he knows heer is all right...


why does it always seem that we remember these lines better than the one who said them, or the ones that wrote them??

Originally posted by: maya123

i think that dramatisation was just to show that a bomb balst takes away a lot of different thing from different people - different relations...


good point. didn't think of it like that. all i could think of was: those are memories that are already there. and a white-out is deleting them. you can't kill memories like that! one of those things that made me really mad...

Originally posted by: maya123


about the story - bt has encased so many beautiful romantic scenes on indian tv - they do know how to come up with the romantic scenes and give us so many well known jodis. if there was any production house that had to come up with a pure , immortal love story on indian tv that it would have to be them. at a time when different channels are attempting romeo/juliet type of love stories, bt creatives should be the one who should be able to deliver the best, PURE love story. but alas they cannot seem to be aboe to come out of their old mould of story telling. what a pity!


what's with the romeo-juliet fascination just now? those two kill themselves and the story ends - one of the most irritating of shakespeare's plays imho. prem-heer, on the other hand, totally rock. it's so weird to think that in india -- where the world is going to hire cheap labour -- they can't replace mouldy story-writers with new ones! is it that they are not producing enough new serials, where they need to hire new blood? they're certainly hiring new actors -- why not a few new story tellers? and certainly, why not a whole lot of new editors? or most importantly, some smart new public-relations/publicists?? starting with one for ms. put-her-foot-in-her-mouth-too-often kapoor?

gee. i can't believe that i'm still able to get mad at them for this episode.... hmmm. excuse me while i go dunk my head in the nearest bucket of water....
Edited by estee - 16 years ago

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