1 oct: big things, no little things

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there's something to be said for deadlines that will not give you the luxury of time. remarkably, my group have accepted my wednesday-8pm fidgets. in fact, one of them even let me borrow his car, under various promises that i would be boiled like the toe of frog that macbeth's witches put into their brew, if i got even a suspicion of a scratch on it anywhere. poor guy, how was he to know the show i was going to see today. the car did get back pristine pure and untouched. but not so me. not so my head. and that was not something to burden my in-the-end kind group with. those were secrets for me to know and keep, under cover and trembling, till i got here. to write today's bt,lt. for my forum. my sanctuary. my thrill haven. my weeping ground.

were there little things today? p'rhaps. but somehow... all those things, placed around the pathos of prem's panic, and the purity of his perfectly human love, and everything got magnified to a big thing. every little word. every little shrug. every longing look. every sigh - everything was big today. where do i start? what do i remember first? of course, prem's escalating fear that what he dreamt is coming true... that he will lose heer to some terrible accident..

* big thing: prem has never been hysterical about anything before. but about heer. anything to do with heer and he goes ballistic. you don't even get to see the path he takes to go ballistic! one second he's calm and peaceful. the next, he's stratospheric. remember when his secretary called and told him that preeto's last name was chabbaria? the leaps he made! calm prem. thinking prem. becomes insulted prem! offended prem! have-to-tell-heer-immediately-of-this-unbearable-hurt prem! fiery prem!

today, too, he loses all control. it's only because he knows heer is still at home, safe and sound, that he can hold on to some sanity when the secretary calling him in to the meeting. and how -- level-headed, business-man prem who is looking out for his baby brother's future happiness two days before his own wedding, that prem! -- is unable to really concentrate on what he used to think important now. his friend laughs at him for being there. prem can handle that. what he can't handle is the need to know where heer is. the need to know she is okay. he is constantly fingering his phone, as if there is a constant echo in his head: "make the call. keep her on the line. make the call."

* big thing: heer is so polite. but she is that way. has always been so. accepting to the point of being a carpet over which people walk. how many times have we seen this accepting-any-poop side of heer? the only person who she doesn't accept that from is... prem. *sigh* 'cause he's her prem. with whom she can be whatever she wants, without thought, without any consideration of what "people will accept". heer... she just can't say no. i have a feeling that of all the things that make heer, this is the first thing that will go.
(is it odd that i can't remember what the heck kooky said at this point? i really don't...)

* big thing: did anyone else think of a caged lion being set free the moment prem walks out of the office? i did. after which, the only thing that the lion does is... roar. from fear. from the pain in his heart. the imagined pain that he knows he will feel when there's a hole there. the hole from not having heer alive.

and y'know what i thought of at that sight, and the sound of prem's panic? i thought of this forum. seriously. of how there have been posts, panicking, imagining the worst, of not giving any good possibility a chance to exist. it's really weird how this forum is so deeply woven- at some level - into the story of prem-heer, for me.

'cause that was what prem was doing -- panic escalating at not being there, not knowing. i am ashamed to say that i was muttering under my breath "stooopid, stoooopid guy. why did you leave? why did you leave her there??" (sorry. i thought it was a darned sight better than what my friends were doing -- silently weeping big big tears, sitting on either side of me.)

* big thing: i have to say this -- this show has been an incredible showcasing of hc's talent. i'm not kidding. this crew, this team is in love with hc. i remember thinking that vividly on the day "prem finds heer's dead body" - that entire day was just a poem to hc's acting skills. as it was again, today. they gave it all -- story, situation, everything -- to prem today. what struck me as brilliantly remarkable was the difference of style and quality of how they did it between that day and today. that day, there were closeups. we could see every tremble in his lips. hear every break in his voice. today, there were no closeups. the camera was high above him -- they were displaying the whole package: the way his feet moved in a focussed way with no goal! the way his entire body was as tense as a finely tuned guitar string. the way his face was frozen in a fury driven by fear and panic both! those eyes of helpless fire! those taut fingers stabbing helplessly at nothing ! if heer had been there in front of him today, she would've been black and blue all over. for sure! his face! when he collapses at the sound of the child screaming and the firecrackers bursting! it was like he is dead - struck by a heart-attack on the spot.

but best of all, there was his voice. his out of control voice. it was not like the out of control voice of his confession day. there heer was in front of him, his love for her fighting with his sense of propriety. today, it was his helplessness - that he could hear her, tell her things - but that she was not obeying him. that she was walking right into something that he sees as ending in her being hurt, worse dead. walking into a life where he has no heer -- and he has no control! his voice was brilliant. when heer's voice comes crackling back on the phone, his voice -- he has no voice at first! he has to try more than once to get something out. and when he does, it's back to being a roaring lion. only the quality of that roar is a little different -- there is relief, so immense that it can be heard over the sound of the entire street, the whole city. it's just as harsh, - of course it has to be! he can't let heer know that he has died and just come back to life. he can't let her keep roaming around the city -- she has to go back home and be safe from anything that he might not have dreamed.

poor prem. and his poor heer. poor darlings. these two have just rushed from difficult situation to difficult situation. swamped with ridiculous parents and their idiotic advice. intrustive siblings with their idiotic problems. maggotty far-off relatives, and innocent bothersome children. poor darlings. perfect for each other. and stuck in the wrong story... 😭

* big thing: prem roaming aimlessly in the city, catching his breath and his mind back. what a perfectly understandable thing to do... but ultimately also eating away precious time from the clock in my frantic mind where i'd already begun to count down some intangible prem-heer-time left to me...

and so, i come to my biggest thing today -- this show, what we saw today, was incredible in what really happens when resentful people seeks to destroy a society made up of the life of millions and millions of people, some ordinary, some extra-ordinary, all infinitely precious... we never expect to be hurt by any single disaster, do we? 'cause each of these are totally random! and random things never happen to us, does it? the moment we wake up, we never expect to die that day. that's something no one ever does. not even patients who have terminal diseases. the moment we wake up, it's like the day is ours. the problem, if there is a problem, will happen tomorrow. we do today, thinking we will get to sleep at night. and then, if we wake up, we get another shot at life. at least, that's what i realised i think like. when i wake up, i don't think i might lose my mom today. i have her for today. i may lose her tomorrow. but today? she is mine.

i think today's show was all about saying that that thought is not true. 😭 it just isn't. maybe it never was. after all, even mkg** didn't think he was going to get shot the day he did. but somehow today, we are more aware of the fact that one of us may not make it before the end of the day. i'm typing my bt,lt just now - but i may not get to post it. 'cause some stooopid random thing might happen and then? all you will have are my old bt,lts to remember someone called estee.

** - mohandas karamchand gandhi

i think - below all the horror that i know i'm going to feel as they show us a bomb blast situation, behind all the pain that i will feel if we don't get to see prem again, or have a prem-heer-are-one-forever - this team is trying something incredible. and i applaud them for it. they will go back to hysterical sound tracks and poor editing and i'll curse those from the top of my voice. but to be fair, they are churning out the best love story that i've seen in years. and trying something noble too?! go kdmhmd team! they are creating a story that has me watching with my whole self, with all it's flaws, and perfections, it's happiness and sorrows. and i wouldn't have it anyother way. thank you.

(continued below -- if.com really thinks i should not do such long posts! *sigh* it's probably right....)

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Posted: 16 years ago
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* big prem-heer thing: heer surrounded by a giddily happy, laughing family and she? she has her desparate need to be with prem. prem diametrically opposite alone - oh so alone! - with his hot relief, his hot guilt, and he? he has his desperate need to be with heer. it wrenches at your heart -- their yearning for each other. 'cause at the end of the day, that's the only thing that made me feel that things were not so bleak or broken --- prem in dilli alone and heer in ludhiana, as much alone, and both yearning for each other. their other halves. 'cause prem-heer are one. there is nothing nothing nothing that anyone can do about it. this most brilliant of stories has sung the same song from the beginning, continued with singing that same song in every episode, every moment -- that prem-heer are one --, when they were together, when there were not, it was always - prem-heer are one.

and if anyone - anyone! - tries to change the tune. if anyone even lifts a finger to type the wrong key. to strum the wrong string on this song. to cheat. to do anything that will try to change that prem-heer are one, then their world will be set on fire. their fingers will break and fall away. their hearts will stop beating. their eyes will burst in their sockets. their brains will vapourise. and the story will come screaming out the same thing again. and again. and again: that prem-heer are one. let them try. they cannot. they will not. 'cause prem-heer are one. (yeah, with the same faces, of course! can you imagine the hell of trying to find a pair of eyes that can speak to each other like these two do? or worse... a pair of hands with that level of chemistry?!?! huh!!! let! them! try!)

so, i listened to prem's sweet, soft-voiced second confession of love into heer's voice-mail box with a sense of deja-vu and peace and calm. 'cause just as heer could hear prem making his vows to her as he went promising that he will take on all difficulties for her, that he will share his worldly possessions, his body, his mind, his life with her, she hears him here too. despite all the silly people who are trying to keep her away from her prem -- even her loved ones. 'cause these two have actually always been together. this time too, they've broken all barriers to be together. they will continue do to so. it only remains to be seen how they do it -- the next time around. i am not worried. 'cause i believe. prem-heer are one. so yes, heer will cry -- but if she's anything like her prem, she will listen to her heart beating and know that he is there, alive, waiting for her to find him - again. what's one more time when they've done it so often already!? and y'know what they say: practice makes perfect! hmmm. looks like prem has had more practice than heer? no matter, now she will catch up. 😊

*big thing: if there is anything that i'm worried about, it's the rest of the crowd: poor preet who will want to kill himself for being a lakshman that has lost his ram. ramayan's lakshman has never known that hell - but poor preet will. a big question is: will preet try to become ram as penance? poor poor darling preet. poor sweetheart. "kul-di" - so sweet, the way prem said that name - for not letting her mother speak to her darling son one more time. of course, lalluchacha will be prostrate with grief. and someone's gonna have to help harman and preet keep the business together. darling heer's going to end up wasting quite a bit of time getting these silly folk to keep it together before she can re-start her prem-quest again.

and this time, she will learn to say no. firmly. so that the one thing she will not have to do is regret that she let the poopsters keep her from her prem...

*big thing: i said this before -- but i have nothing but awe and admiration for this team using prem and his heer and the rest of the juneja's to show us how desperate the effect of a random act of terror can be in the lives of people... the ending was quite striking. those black-screens with white lettering, paying their respects to those who died - both in english (my language) and hindi (my country's language) made me clap through my tears.

although, if they ever short-change the effect event in the juneja's lives, or show any kind of disprespect going forward, they better watch it. 😒

* big thing: what a remarkable thing that they choose mkg's birthday -- the man who made non-violence the tagline for india -- to showcase the stooopidity of random acts of terrorist violence. i salute this team! 👏

highlight of the episode: what else? that wonderful call recording prem's thoughts and voice into heer's voicemail box. it was the height of perfection. he explains to her why he was mad at her -- finally! he says he had promised never to say sorry to her - and that after today, there will never be the need and he starts explaining his dream to her. i was soooo happy at that, i cried. (yeah, i did. silly me, no?) i wonder whether this will remain true when prem-heer meet again. that prem, at least, will never create a situation where he ends up apologising to heer again. 😍 prem-heer are one -- of course, they'll have more chances at this! and his voice: drowing us in sweetness unimagined, and sweetness unimaginable.. leave aside heer, i could survive on that voice if prem has to disappear for a while! 😆

smile people. it'll all be okay. we will all make it so. seriously. right?


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Posted: 16 years ago
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wow estee this is da most briliant thing i've read!!!👏
b4 starting off......my respects to mkg!!
u write things so beautifully.......now i'm actually luking at da epi in a lesser accusitory way!!!........i stopped watching da show of late even yesterday's i just read da updates.......but after readinig wat u wrote i might as well go watch all these brilliant prem things n premeer things😃
u feeling bad 4 preet? i just can't bring myself to feel sorry 4 ny1 but heer n hc nforum n myself too........i know preet will b miserable but i felt he deserved it.......dunno whether i'm derving sum sadistic pleasure from his soon-2-b-cuming gulit.......coz i found him insensitive when i read wat he said "bomb blasts toh hote rehte hain" or sumthing like this in such casual way.........
but now he'll see his own bro being a victim of it n he in a way being responsible 4 sending him 2 delhi......

i just loved it when u said premeer r 1 n they'll have more chances at this........n he is diappearing 4 a while......it's getting really maddeninig to imagine an epi widout him!!!!! hopefully we will make him cum back...........as u said 'go prem,go heer , u 2 rule'😆😆😆
kuddos again to ufor this by far ur best bt,lt?? i think so!!!👏👏👏

----anita😊
Edited by thephworld - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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wow estee ur bt lts are really good.I generally take the show seriously.I kinda try to see things deeply.I put myself in heer and everyone and I see how da hell will it be to know dat the person u luv is lost.And this makes me more miserable.I always prefer to watch the epi after reading ur bt lt.Bcoz it is full of positivity.thnx.though I stopped watching the show.I will always look forward for ur bt lt.Thank u so much
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: thephworld


b4 starting off......my respects to mkg!!



yeah, the man ruled. and still rules. the only one who rules even more than prem-heer. 😆

Originally posted by: thephworld


yesterday's i just read da updates.......but after readinig wat u wrote i might as well go watch all these brilliant prem things n premeer things



er... then i should warn you -- be prepared to cry. 'cause all you want to do at a point (other than try to close the mouth that is hanging open in admiration at how brilliantly hc can act as prem!) is to try to get your arms around these two, and give them the biggest hug on earth. seriously.

Originally posted by: thephworld


u feeling bad 4 preet? i just can't bring myself to feel sorry 4 ny1 but heer n hc nforum n myself too........i know preet will b miserable but i felt he deserved it.......dunno whether i'm derving sum sadistic pleasure from his soon-2-b-cuming gulit.......coz i found him insensitive when i read wat he said "bomb blasts toh hote rehte hain" or sumthing like this in such casual way.........



*sigh* i agree, that was a horrible thing to say. but .. he's a kid? kids say such things, especially when they are in the middle of fun, confident that such things will never happen to themselves or anyone they love. i feel sorry for preet, 'cause one of the reasons he is this way is because prem never let him really grow up. it's actually as much prem's fault preet such an idiot. actually, his two brothers and sister are idiots 'cause of him. and if he was going to spoil them, then he should've darned well made sure that he was going to be around to take care of them! darned prem. can't even think of shouting at him today...

Originally posted by: thephworld


i just loved it when u said premeer r 1 n they'll have more chances at this........n he is diappearing 4 a while......it's getting really maddeninig to imagine an epi widout him!!!!! hopefully we will make him cum back...........as u said 'go prem,go heer , u 2 rule



well, dont' you think so too? i mean, this is their story! how can you not have prem-heer??? has to be.... and so, i believe. 😆 g'night.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: luckyluv

I generally take the show seriously.I kinda try to see things deeply.I put myself in heer and everyone and I see how da hell will it be to know dat the person u luv is lost.And this makes me more miserable.I always prefer to watch the epi after reading ur bt lt.



gosh. i'm glad you think it important like that. i hope that i'll continue to want to write them! i hope these guys keep the story and characters of prem-heer true... 😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I didn't watch the episode yesterday, cos of school.. And I didn't bother to go to youtube to watch it as I usually do after reading the updates, and I'm sorry to say not even you bt,lt could make me watch it.. I just cannot believe that Prem - *sigh* I mean, the episode seems very well made, and moving the story on, etc etc. But knowing what is to come? I seriously hate the creatives right now for thinking that this would improve the story. I'm sure HC acted brilliantly (I definitely trust your judgement on that) as did AG, but I cannot bring myself to watch the episode. So I thank you for the bt,lt, which gives me more than the episode would, because it gives me hope..

Originally posted by: estee

poor prem. and his poor heer. poor darlings. these two have just rushed from difficult situation to difficult situation. swamped with ridiculous parents and their idiotic advice. intrustive siblings with their idiotic problems. maggotty far-off relatives, and innocent bothersome children. poor darlings. perfect for each other. and stuck in the wrong story... 😭

And this quote describes the entire show so well.. I wouldn't mind this continuing if only Prem-Heer were together. Prem-Heer are one. Together anything is possible. Apart, byebye TRPs..
Won't be on the forums as much for awhile.. partly due to my papers which are approaching again, and partly due to the turn the show seems to be taking.. Hopefully, soon HC-as-Prem will be back, than I will be back with a bang! Till then, alvida..
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Really beautiful post Estee👏👏👏
I haven't really watched the epi yet just bits here and there i guess am too sad knowing wats to happen. Though after reading ur post I can see it differently especially in the family's case cos I was really upset with Preet and the family in general mainly cos of wat Prem's going through or should I say is about to go through. The creatives as much as I really dislike them right now, have to admit the way they showed it is really something done well👏
Family celebrating happily while on the other there is bloodshed and chaos and tears...........little does this family know wats about to happen to them which really is a honest and harsh reality of life. So my anger on the family has diminished somewhat cos of all the pain and immense regret that's heading their way😒

Loved wat ur wrote about Prem and Heer and ur optimism.Premeer are one no matter wat and really hope that we do see them together again😳

Again am saying such great and beautiful post you've written, its really helped alot dear😳


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Posted: 16 years ago
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I spend quite a lot of time reading on IF during the day, just before the episode airs in india and later the analysis by people who have watched the episode before i watch it myself a little later in the day , whenever i can find half an hour when there are no disturbances, and then i check if you have posted the BT LT, the episode doesnt seem complete without it, hope you are doing something that involves a lot of writing because you do a very good job at it
i just love harshad s acting as prem, apart from some initial very emotional scenes where he seemed a little weak or over the top he has given top notch performances throughout, when he removes the cloth from the dead body to reveal heer, could have easily been artificial but NO harshad made it PERFECT.... similarly all of yesterdays episode, he could have gone overboard with the whole possessive worrying but again he did it perfectly. Even though this might have been his last few episodes he is not slacking he seems to love doing this as much as we love seeing him. by the way your description equalled his performance
you are also right that the kdmhmd team should be applauded for giving us such an interesting episode, if we take away the fact that we know harshad is leaving, this episode would have had us on the edge all the while, thinking heer is going to die only to find prem being blown away. the news about harshad leaving has taken a lot away from the episode... this story should not have been leaked....
i think the big change we will see in heer would be that she would become assertive, she has taken decisions before when she thought they were necessary like leaving prem forever, so now we will see more of that, but we will also see lots of heartbreak when they reveal prem s death, his parents, gaya3 who has been mysteriously absent the last week, his sisters, but most of all heer and preet
preet: he s already been declared the villian by this forum, he will also be declared the reason behind prems death by his own family, i think heer will support him, she like prem will cover for him, i think heer and preet will support each other, not necessarily in a romantic manner but by mourning prems loss together.
i think prem was the highlight of the whole episode, all of him, even buying saris for his mother was a highlight........another heart breaking episode today, will miss him, who else will carry off that vanilla, chocolate and sometimes strawberry look for us now :(
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Posted: 16 years ago
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👏👏 Yes, Harshad was simply superb in the show yesterday. He acts like he knows EXACTLY what it feels like to have a loved one in such a difficult situation...I know because I have been in these situations and you tend to go mad when you don't know where the ones you love are. I wonder how he got it so perfecly.

Also i join with you on applauding the team on how they have tied in the recent spate of terrorists attacks in India. India is so big that a bomb blast just doesn't get the kind of attention that it gets in a smaller country - like in Europe....so many people have the same reaction as Preet "some bomb is going off somewhere" 😭 I hated him yesterday, but I agree with you that he is going to go through hell after this... people just don't get the horror until it actually happens to them...I hope you never had to, or ever have to, suffer such things yourself. Thank you for so vividly telling how it feels.

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