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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SunNaa


lol u are welcome sam...i started the topic mann ki bhadaas nikalne ke liye 😆 episode mein kuch tha hi nahi jamne ke liye yaar 😕

the towel scene actually wasn't even funny this time..so not needed...the terrace scene..i was really looking forward to the scene but somehow it fell flat...kuch connect hi nahi hua, maybe it was the way it was executed, enacted? i don't know what exactly was wrong but i didn't enjoy it much..end bhi abruptly ho gaya...and what with saachi sauing "tum socho kyu bharosa nahi kar paa rahi tumpe" WTH! fir wahi baat ..urghhh...

no idea where they are going with this...I'm going to lose interest pretty fast if this continues...



@bold: seriously, they just seem to be going in circles-unka toh pata nahi-mujhe chakkar zaroor aa rahein hain😆😕 Its same old same old!

-You can't completely blame Saachi there-DV mahashay ne aisa kuch kiya hi nahi ab tak that she can win over her fears and insecurities. Like is it that difficult to tell your juvenile friend about your relationship? DV is acting like Anky is suffering from a terminal disease and he doesn't want to upset her😳.

When he can insist and convince Saachi to go to Diwali party at Dils' why couldn't he have convinced her for the movie?like he doesn't even try-why?? Its not like him to keep quiet and not speak up-why is he soo tongue tied around Anky?especially when its making Saachi so uncomfortable.

Like I said, mujhe toh chakkar aa rahein hain! I hope these guys know what they are doing-and get their act together soon!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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The episode did feel a bit disjointed and the multiple locations and story strands probably resulted in that disjointedness being magnified...In such situations, I tend to look for the silver lining around the edges...

- This Ankie is taking up so much footage, yaar. She hasn't even been here for three days and I'm already wishing that she disappears for good. Every new scene just makes me think, "She's SUCH a kid!" and not in a good way. Whining about how Panchgani is sooo boring, then forcing everyone to go to the movies and rushing DV because they shouldn't be late...Then she herself yells and throws kiddie tantrums about stopping on the side of the road for ice cream and whatnot when they ARE getting late...Oh, and I almost forgot the picture-taking and sticking ice cream on DV's face. And then later, that towel nonsense...More on that later. Aaargh. I felt like Dils today, all throughout the episode. Ankita was chattering about the scenery (take pictures of the scenery then, not selfies, jeez!), but she chews up the scenery...and how. Good god. Bachaao, please!

- What's interesting about all this is that even DV looks like he's irritated and at the end of his rope, tolerating Ankita...He says this is normal behavior as far as she is concerned...But if this is her usual behavior, he's obviously grown and matured to the point where that sort of "youthful" behavior is starting to feel like more of a nuisance. At least that's what I'm sensing from his reactions to her. It's like he's dealing with a childhood buddy who is of a completely different mindset now, but since they've known each other for such a long time, it's hard to shrug her off. They've grown apart since the time DV first arrived in Panchgani, but Ankita probably thinks this is the sort of "change" that can be reversed once he goes back to Mumbai and its "youth-centric" atmosphere.

- And so the theme of trust continues to link these relationships together...I liked all the mini conversations revolving around trust today - Dils was trying to send that message across to both DV and Saachi in these recent episodes, and I hope her faith in DV is justified. Ankita is ridiculously unpredictable *weary sigh*

- Saachi's dream...Another interesting bit. It reminded me of the first time DV sat in Saachi's jeep, back when he lied about having heart pain so that he could catch a ride to the market. That was hilarious and endearing to me...And I remember how Saachi was extremely irritated and told him off for being irresponsible and immature and all...DV was unfazed and all he wanted to do was take a picture of his "first friend in Panchgani" with a smile, LOL. That sort of prank-like stunt came back in Saachi's discomforting daydream and it turned into a bit of a surreal nightmare for her. Maybe there's a subconscious fear that DV is going to go back to being the way he was before Saachi knew him...and Naani had just spoken to her about that "rumaal mein lipti hui ladki" stealing DV away, so maybe those words stuck and morphed into an irrational nightmare in spite of Saachi's attempts to cheer up and think positively. Sometimes that happens. I think, deep down, in her heart, she does trust DV...It's just that, like she said in the MM, she's seeing something and then her mind hits a roadblock...Her mind, in its default tendency to logically process things, overrides the signals from her heart.

- Counting stars...I liked this scene a lot! It was familiar, comforting, and soothing to me after the craziness of the first few scenes. Now I can go back and happily watch the BTS video since I've seen the episode. I'm also wondering why DV came to Saachi's terrace at night...Maybe he had other things to do...? Eh, going to cut the team some slack because I loved yesterday's episode and this terrace scene makes me happy enough. I'm very, very thankful for this scene in the middle of all the best friend stuff. It would have been an exceedingly trying episode without this DV-Saachi moment, even if it was entirely WAY too short! 😒 ❤️ A shining star in the middle of a dark black sky...That's what this DV-Saachi scene is to me! Love the dialogues and expressions, as always! DV shows up unannounced and Saachi isn't surprised this time...She just looks up at him and lets out vague comments that only she understands...DV picks up on them, teases her a bit, and then encourages her to elaborate, which she does. As they look at each other, as DV watches Saachi speak about her father, I feel like I can sense, yet again, why DV admires Saachi so much. She has a softness and a wisdom that probably was instilled in her by her father...DV might tease Saachi about her stern side, but that gentle wisdom and her nurturing nature make her a woman to be respected and admired. I doubt DV encountered many career-oriented women like that during his time in Mumbai and abroad...The more time he spent with Saachi and her family, the more he began to love that closeness and peacefulness, I think. There's a beautiful tranquility in moments like this one - and DV has spent many similar moments with Saachi, interacting with her either in silence or with more being said nonverbally than verbally...It's the way their relationship has blossomed and grown, bit by bit...

- "Main aapka problem nahi...solution banna chahta hoon..." "Already ho." Awww! Trademark DV-Saachi...I also love the bit where DV speaks about surrendering doubts, logic, and fears...Lovely lines yet again! "Jabse mujhe aapse pyaar hua hai...mujhe din mein bhi taare nazar aate hai." AWWW! Haha, so sweet! That characteristic way Ruslaan says these lines, and how Sangita nails Saachi's response as usual...Saachi's smile as she looks at DV, who is already grinning at her...Awww! Trademark DV! 😆 Love how they end up laughing together, too, after Saachi gives him a light, playful thwack...and the way DV reaches around to wrap an arm around her as she shakes her head at him...These two never fail to leave me in awe at how beautifully they fit together. Their hands find each other's, and they snuggle closer, looking at each other affectionately before looking up at the stars...The focus on their hands is such a lovely part of that final shot...I love that they're both caressing each other's fingers there, that it's a mutual display of their affection that comes out at a subconscious level, instinctively.

- A few words about the towel scene. First and foremost, I'm glad it's done with! 😆 The entire time, I kept contrasting it with the time when Saachi came in and chanced upon DV after he'd taken a shower. The mental exercise of comparing the two scenarios was quite nice, and by now Saachi has an overwhelming number of marks in her favor in my book (and probably in DV's book, too). In any case, I'm taking this towel scene as a point for contrasting Saachi - the teacher-type, older woman who has lived a simple yet difficult life full of responsibilities - and Ankita - the young, chilled-out, high-society girl whose life probably consists of parties and vacationing at the drop of a hat and embarking on flights of fancy like a pampered child. "Okay, meri maa, ab tu jaa!" "Cut the nonsense..." Dude, I am curious about DV's pre-Panchgani and pre-Saachi lifestyle, because he's so clearly annoyed with Ankita and her "harmless flirt" type comments about his body and all. It's like he's dealing with a child, the way he changes his tone after his initial attempts to get her to be understanding end up failing. "You've changed!" Yeah, he has! Surprise! *rolls eyes* Liked the details in this part, actually - the romantic movies DV had stocked up on for his "movie date" with Saachi (HDDCS was one I managed to glimpse), the CDs of ghazals, old film songs, romantic songs..."How old-fashioned!" Ankita says, throwing the stuff on the bed carelessly. And DV looks like he wants her to shut up and leave him in peace, ASAP.

- Watching Dils interact with DV now, in such a fiercely protective manner, trying to ward off Ankita while simultaneously scolding DV for roaming around with "no clothes", is nice, too...It brings back a lot of memories of the early days when Dils was in her line-maaroing phase around DV 😆 It's so lovely seeing how far their friendship has come and how deep it is! THIS is how a friend should be. She's a wonderful best friend, confidante, and mirror for both DV and Saachi...and she's like a surrogate for the audience a lot of the time. Ah, and while I invariably end up cheering whenever Dils imparts advice to Saachi or DV, I also really enjoy watching Delnaaz deliver those hilarious lines and nicknames from time to time - "Miss Cool Refrigerator!" takes the cake today after the earlier "Multivitamin."

- Here's hoping for a better end to the week...And I hope the JLZ team gets through the 5-episodes-a-week teething problems without letting the quality drop substantially. I'll keep watching and searching for silver lining as long as they give us hidden gems!
Edited by MelodiousDreams - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: freezinheat



. And i dunno how this jungle track can possibly be made interesting. They're unlikely to bear their souls or romance or resolve trust issues while someone is lost and may be in danger and they're searching in the dark..


LMAO so true! 😆

I'm not interested in the jungle track either..looks a waste of time! would love to be proven wrong!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: adoremevirgo

already actors r luking tired and now 5 days will start...i dont understand this decision of the channel...

also the story is going nowhere...it has become stagnant...the story wont move unless and until DV tells to his parents about saachi...and for reasons known only to him he is just keeping on postponing it...

i am always put off by DV's shirtless scenes and today was no exception...today's episode was just a filler...i think this entire week is a filler...actually this anky's character itself is totally unnecessary...so as long as story will focus on her there wont be anything substantial to show...

its better they finish the land case and shift the story to mumbai...otherwise there will be nothing left to watch in this show...


that's what worries me too...already the story is going nowhere and the actors look tired..and now 5 days a week..hmmm

and i agree ...the whole ankita track wasn't required...it's been done to death on indian tv...they could have chosen any other track but they chose this ghisa pita love triangle...DV's family needs to be introduced like NOW!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sshirley

Hi Manali and others,

I had decided to contribute to this thread regularly, but i have nothing to say about today's epi. it made no sense at all - even the terrace scene and saruv could not salvage the epi.
i woke up to get a bad news and now, the epi too failed to lift my spirits.
I dint feel i was watching JLZ.


hi shirley...I don't blame u!

no one has much to day about today's epi..disappointing!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjubala

Hi All, as you all have already written - it was a total filler episode. I guess along with actors even the director, editors and crew are tired. Is it the affect of maha episode that they all are still recuperating from? But I thought after MM, they gave couple of good episodes. So what is wrong this week. Yesterday was better than today.

I am hating this Anki...and upset at DV for not telling Anki and bearing all her nakhras. It is easy said than done - Dils, mujhpe trust karti raho..come on DV, what is this? Kab tak trust karen..you need to moved ahead and tell the concerned parties about your love.
Being a guy, you will not be affected but think about Saachi. She has already heard a lot and now this Prachi and family crap is starting. Till when will she hear all this? She is the one who has to hear all the taunts. Saachi is bound to be upset. It is not that her bharosa is wavering...it is just that her fears keep coming back and they come back with vengeance when she hears all these nonsense talks and sees her Nani-Aaji sad. Tell me which girl will not be upset?
Terrace scene was OK as compared to rest of the episode but angles could have been better - the way they showed in BTS videos. Editing was very choppy and did not like the towel scene. That was totally unnecessary. We have seen enough of Anki and her obsession of DV, why show via towel scene that how well she knows DV?
Mr. Goel and Pradeep - the only good part about this scene is that it seems like DV's brother is not aware that DV is Saachi's lawyer. When Pradeep said that Saachi's lawyer also said the same, Mr. Goel was angry that why did you send us bogus papers then. It seeme they know there is a lawyer but DV is her lawyer..he is not aware of it as both lawyers are talking and sending notices. The actual parties have not come in the front to talk.
Precap - Is it that DV will tell Anki about his love and then she will go on adventure and call DV, Saachi too? That seems possible as they have shot promo scene.. Articles are also saying that Anki will go to jungle on purpose once DV tells her about Saachi. We really need to progress story nicely, the way they have done so far.
Now from next week it is 5 days a week...so bracing for more filler episodes. Hope not.


@bold: lol don't u know why anju? 😆 it's done in every show...female attention aise hi aati hai I guess 😆

true about DV bearing ankita ke sab nahkhre..actually everyone is getting annoying now 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MelodiousDreams

The episode did feel a bit disjointed and the multiple locations and story strands probably resulted in that disjointedness being magnified...In such situations, I tend to look for the silver lining around the edges...


- This Ankie is taking up so much footage, yaar. She hasn't even been here for three days and I'm already wishing that she disappears for good. Every new scene just makes me think, "She's SUCH a kid!" and not in a good way. Whining about how Panchgani is sooo boring, then forcing everyone to go to the movies and rushing DV because they shouldn't be late...Then she herself yells and throws kiddie tantrums about stopping on the side of the road for ice cream and whatnot when they ARE getting late...Oh, and I almost forgot the picture-taking and sticking ice cream on DV's face. And then later, that towel nonsense...More on that later. Aaargh. I felt like Dils today, all throughout the episode.

anky has become a headache already...y the need i really cant get...even i found that totally irritating wen she said movie can be seen any other time...she hardly cares about the others in the car...

- What's interesting about all this is that even DV looks like he's irritated and at the end of his rope, tolerating Ankita...He says this is normal behavior as far as she is concerned...But if this is her usual behavior, he's obviously grown and matured to the point where that sort of "youthful" behavior is starting to feel like more of a nuisance. At least that's what I'm sensing from his reactions to her. It's like he's dealing with a childhood buddy who is of a completely different mindset now, but since they've known each other for such a long time, it's hard to shrug her off. They've grown apart since the time DV first arrived in Panchgani, but Ankita probably thinks this is the sort of "change" that can be reversed once he goes back to Mumbai and its "youth-centric" atmosphere.

@bold...so true...DV has changed since she has known and fallen in love with saachi...frankly the original DV from initial epis cud never hv won saachi's heart...today like u said he has matured which anky mistakes as being becoming a poet like she said in monday's epi...it is not about being a poet...but i think this is the true DV...one cannot change completely in few weeks...in spite of DV's playful nature he has always stood by prabhu family from initial days...and after falling in love it is he who has shown patience and perseverence all the while wen saachi was denying her feelings...and wen aji was against them it was he who has displayed utmost loyalty and commitment to melt aji and nani...all these facets of DV cud not blossom in mumbai but here in panchgani all these hv made him a different person...different in the sense he no longer falls in the bracket in which anky sees him...waise bhi wen one falls in love a change happens in that person...anky is sensing that change in him but cant understand wat and like u said she thinks he will be back to "normal"self once he gets back to mumbai not knowing that this has become his normal self now...

- And so the theme of trust continues to link these relationships together...I liked all the mini conversations revolving around trust today - Dils was trying to send that message across to both DV and Saachi in these recent episodes, and I hope her faith in DV is justified. Ankita is ridiculously unpredictable *weary sigh*

as of now i think DV is totally trustworthy...i had a doubt wat kind of relationship DV has shared with anky in the past...i mean like one night stands...but that towel scene wen anky said she has seen him in every smaller clothes and he was like that time i realized they r really just friends...
DV's trust will actually be put to test in future episodes wen saachi will come to know that PE belongs to his family...that track can be moulded in many ways...DV can be turned negative overnite...but ok i dont want to predict all those now...seeing the pathetic state of TRP my only fear is that DV's character may be mutilated beyond recognition later on...

- Saachi's dream...Another interesting bit. It reminded me of the first time DV sat in Saachi's jeep, back when he lied about having heart pain so that he could catch a ride to the market. That was hilarious and endearing to me...And I remember how Saachi was extremely irritated and told him off for being irresponsible and immature and all...DV was unfazed and all he wanted to do was take a picture of his "first friend in Panchgani" with a smile, LOL. That sort of prank-like stunt came back in Saachi's discomforting daydream and it turned into a bit of a surreal nightmare for her. Maybe there's a subconscious fear that DV is going to go back to being the way he was before Saachi knew him...and Naani had just spoken to her about that "rumaal mein lipti hui ladki" stealing DV away, so maybe those words stuck and morphed into an irrational nightmare in spite of Saachi's attempts to cheer up and think positively. Sometimes that happens. I think, deep down, in her heart, she does trust DV...It's just that, like she said in the MM, she's seeing something and then her mind hits a roadblock...Her mind, in its default tendency to logically process things, overrides the signals from her heart.

@bold...i feel so too since anky has arrived saachi may be fearing that anky will convert him back to his old self...actually i think that is wat troubling saachi the most...its not like she is thinking DV may fall in love with anky...but she is thinking he may revert back to his old self which is equivalent to losing him like i already said saachi wud never hv fallen in love with the original DV...



- Counting stars...I liked this scene a lot! It was familiar, comforting, and soothing to me after the craziness of the first few scenes. Now I can go back and happily watch the BTS video since I've seen the episode. I'm also wondering why DV came to Saachi's terrace at night...Maybe he had other things to do...? Eh, going to cut the team some slack because I loved yesterday's episode and this terrace scene makes me happy enough. I'm very, very thankful for this scene in the middle of all the best friend stuff. It would have been an exceedingly trying episode without this DV-Saachi moment, even if it was entirely WAY too short! 😒 ❤️ A shining star in the middle of a dark black sky...That's what this DV-Saachi scene is to me! Love the dialogues and expressions, as always! DV shows up unannounced and Saachi isn't surprised this time...She just looks up at him and lets out vague comments that only she understands...DV picks up on them, teases her a bit, and then encourages her to elaborate, which she does. As they look at each other, as DV watches Saachi speak about her father, I feel like I can sense, yet again, why DV admires Saachi so much. She has a softness and a wisdom that probably was instilled in her by her father...DV might tease Saachi about her stern side, but that gentle wisdom and her nurturing nature make her a woman to be respected and admired. I doubt DV encountered many career-oriented women like that during his time in Mumbai and abroad...The more time he spent with Saachi and her family, the more he began to love that closeness and peacefulness, I think. There's a beautiful tranquility in moments like this one - and DV has spent many similar moments with Saachi, interacting with her either in silence or with more being said nonverbally than verbally...It's the way their relationship has blossomed and grown, bit by bit...

@bold...i think they shud hv shown continuity after he returned widout watching movie...i was waiting to see saachi's reaction wen she will realize that DV left anky with dils only so that he can spend the time with her...but since the continuity was interrupted i was quite disappointed because it seemed to me saachi has not realized that DV skipped the movie for her...

but other than that i liked the scene...counting stars do melt all tensions trust me...i liked that scene too although BTS video ka angles were far better...and also there were some stuff edited in the episode which i didnt like...nywyz i loved the essence of the scene...
i am a little confused about this trust bit...DV has enuf already to prove his worth...from the way he won her heart in spite of her constant denials...the way he won aji's heart...the way he handled her mood tantrum on the way from mumbai to panchgani after party...i think saachi doesnt doubt his love...but she is always scared of losing him...actually i think the dialogue shud be written like "its not that i dont trust u but its just that i am scared of losing u"...because i think saachi trusts him...but the way he is postponing talking to his parents even though he is saying that his parents will hv no objection...it is becoming clear to saachi that deep down DV is scared that his parents mite not accept her...in that case wen DV will hv to choose between family (which includes money, luxury etc etc) and saachi...she fears wat choice DV will make...like she said on monday...she is scared that his family will separate them...so she trusts him but not the circumstances that may arrive because of their age difference...

*TBC...*

Edited by adoremevirgo - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Like the rest of you I too feel that this episode was below par...being an editor myself I found today's editing all over the place...the terrace scene should have been connected with DV's arrival by an emotional reaction and some dialogues by Saanch...the time frame about the movie was confusing...when DV left the theatre it was bright light outside,and when he reached Saanchi it was night...the Prachi and PE angles are necessary evils , but they were done without a finesse ...like the Prachi thing was done deliberately to make Saanchi feel pathetic...why are they drumming this over and over again ? And the PE thing is ...DV already said the papers were bogus...it took them so long to find out ? This was out of place and should have been shown much earlier...it's so sad that they are heading this way...just to stretch they are giving these neutral episodes...the story does not have the potential to last very long because there are only two prominent characters and once their problems are solved,they will have to end it ...they can only stretch by repeating their problems and going around in circles...I love this show Cvs , please don't mess it up
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Originally posted by: divine_16

If I would have to describe in one word about Today's episode,then it was -TEDIOUS.

Y'days episode was so so endearing and today I was let down.But anyways, every episode can't be a benchmark.

Sanchi's dream...uff!! I was like what the hell.Sanchi having such a thought...and BANG...came the monologue of Sanchi..."nani ke samjhane per bhi yeh kya soch rahi hun main".She deffo needs to introspect about her thoughts.

Anky...so irritating... Her presence is making me pissed off so much ,that some wonderful scenes r also failing to have an impact on me.I wish DV had smashed that ice cream on her face,rather than Anky😡Bechara Dilz had to tolerate this chipkoo in her house and have to make plum cakes.
The terrace scene...OH!!I would like to give it a try ,to this way of solving my problems😆.But yes,the convo between Sanchi and DV..I liked it.It was a heart to heart convo...talking about some matured stuff and the most important ingredient to carry on a relationship...TRUST.The dialogues...what to say!!...GREAT.So true...every word...if U can't win over your fear ...your insecurities how would u be able to trust someone.Bcoz fear and insecurities will always overcast your trust.Sanchi deffo needs to win over this nor she will hurt DV and in turn will hurt herself also.I loved the way DV was caressing her fingers...It was a lovely gesture of assurance mingled with love from DV that he will never cheat on her .
Prachi's sasuma...another namuna😡.Still can't get over the hangover of her brother,Rishi.Aab toh bhul jaaoo...Sanchi is in love with DV ,now.

PE enterprise...waiting to see how it unfolds.Lots of mystery.May be thru this case, DV's family will come to picture totally.


i agree every episode cannot be great and that's why we aren't writing this one off yet...let's see what they show in the remaining 2 epis this week..i don't expect much though...

but what we do want is the story to move forward...
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Originally posted by: geno0309


@bold: seriously, they just seem to be going in circles-unka toh pata nahi-mujhe chakkar zaroor aa rahein hain😆😕 Its same old same old!

-You can't completely blame Saachi there-DV mahashay ne aisa kuch kiya hi nahi ab tak that she can win over her fears and insecurities. Like is it that difficult to tell your juvenile friend about your relationship? DV is acting like Anky is suffering from a terminal disease and he doesn't want to upset her😳.

When he can insist and convince Saachi to go to Diwali party at Dils' why couldn't he have convinced her for the movie?like he doesn't even try-why?? Its not like him to keep quiet and not speak up-why is he soo tongue tied around Anky?especially when its making Saachi so uncomfortable.

Like I said, mujhe toh chakkar aa rahein hain! I hope these guys know what they are doing-and get their act together soon!


LMAO @ tumhe chakkar aane lage hai 😆 haha seriously...this ankita track was a bad idea...lol...ab kuch dikhane ko hai nahi iss track mein to wahi baar baar dikha rahe hai...that towel scene...can't get over the fact is what a waste it was 😕😆

@bold: lol 😆 true! chalo bata dega wo kal I guess...that's what I can guess from the spoilers...and I bet later this ankita will turn into a possessive girl who will try to win over DV..oh god the same ghisa pita formula 🤢

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