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Posted: 17 years ago
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😳 @Kitto!!!!!!!!!!👏


That's VCHIKIJC's gal 😛

but her silence irritates me at times
Edited by vasantha_rao07 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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so Ayesha was praised ...she must have deserved it at that time..Not even
Mr.Ahluwalia was mentioned in the articleIt truly surprises me..

Would love to see Ayesha's scenes ..but Her chemistry with Milind gives me...đŸ„ș
will upset me....so I will not watch..saw a few Vdo mixes of them..MA..was 😔

I can't see my gal's husband with Ayesha😡...their chemistry was of another level..😆💔



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Posted: 17 years ago
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I actually thank you all so much to take such great care in articulating your thoughts. optimistPippa, meteora, optimist, krangara, ify, vasantha, candyfloss all of you thank you! Such great thoughts, I can't even begin to analyze it, all really good points.

krangara - Tolerating Milind's physical and emotional abuse does not qualify for a backbone...putting him firmly but POLITELY in his face qualifies as a backbone in my humble opinion. nonoe needs to take crap from anyone. Human rights ammendement 1. "Winning" Milind's love doesn't imply she has a backbone, you don't need to win love, you need to earn self-dignity or "aatma sammaan".

Meteora: "The problem is now Ayesha hardly thinks about her mother, and its all about Prachi. I suspect the creatives have bought this change to make Ayesha fully evil, with no scope for redemption. Only problem is, its not consistent , Ayesha did this all for her mother, why would she forget the mother? Plus the mother is mental, wouldn't she be around, making a lot of noise in the Shah house. " What can I say girl, 👏 👏 👏

Pippa: "She also began to teach Prachi to develop a backbone and a mind of her own. Infact, one the biggest critics of soaps and movies, the editor of Mumbai Mirror once wrote that KYM was worth watching only for Ayesha and her tapori act and not for the bland and boring character of Prachi. "
Wow S, didn't know this bit at all, neither about the article nor about Ayesha's character.

You know, I have an intrinsic problem...I actually gravitate more towards the bad woman in any show (except perhaps Tulsi) because they always seem to have so much more in terms of a fascinating personality. Guts, flair, charisma, you name it, these girls actually have it. Also, they tend to be clear concise speakers too. They don't waste time, are intelligent and are not afraid to speak their mind. Whereas the main characters (though they might be fantastic personas in real life) are shown to be such wimps. Common guys, why can't an intelligent, opportunist, witty, loud and give a damn girl be a woman who earns every man's love and respect? We all seem like opinionated, intelligent, brash, open and affectionate women, so are we unconsiously promoting wimpy women as heroines? Going by what we like, it seems like we can't accept our own selves as heroines?

This entire seemingly pointless paragraph was fragmented by me keepnig in mind the creatives laziness/inclination to turn Ayesha into a mindless almost maniacal villian.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: ify101

i always say,,ayesha isnt bad she is just a mental case..

completely agree she is kookoo

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: meteora_smt

The problem is now Ayesha hardly thinks about her mother, and its all about Prachi. I suspect the creatives have bought this change to make Ayesha fully evil, with no scope for redemption. Only problem is, its not consistent , Ayesha did this all for her mother, why would she forget the mother? Plus the mother is mental, wouldn't she be around, making a lot of noise in the Shah house.

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I would go by what I see. Granted the creatives are a lazy bunch but then why should I break my head and wonder what would Ayesha be like if they had not ruined her. We would never know, would we, since that is not what we got to see. The way Ayesha has turned out, looks like she always had these evil streaks in latent in her which have surfaced when she decided to choose the path of revenge and as a result lost the one person who cared for her the most. As to why she has forgotten the mother for whom she is supposed to have done all this, to me it only goes to show that whatever be her initial trigger for the revenge she is completely lost now. Her sense of purpose is gone. She has become a horse with blinkers on, only seeing one thing, ie.,getting Milsi away from Prachi and to herself. Nothing or nobody matters to her now.

Sonia, Amrita's puzzle was finally solved. I believe she is in a hospital and not in SM. Remember Neev's phone call to Ayesha asking her to go to Jeevan jyoti mental asylum to see her mother and she says she is not in that asylum but in some hospital? No wonder we do not hear any sounds in SM.

Edited by optimist - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Sorry for the super long post. I'm not as good at writing as you. My main problem is the fact that while somebody else might need 10 words to convey 10 things. I need a 100 words to do the same, as I'm not gifted with the art of writing brief and concise.

Originally posted by: optimist

I would go by what I see. Granted the creatives are a lazy bunch but then why should I break my head and wonder what would Ayesha be like if they had not ruined her. We would never know, would we, since that is not what we got to see. Hmm, I guess, this is where we differ, because I always have a fixed image of the character in my head, and I get pretty annoyed with the actions of the characters are not consistent. It would be somewhat like how I would feel if Milsi has an ONS with Ayesha, I wouldn't think his actions are consistent with the character they portrayed of Milsi. Similar with Ayesha. The way Ayesha has turned out, looks like she always had these evil streaks in latent in her which have surfaced when she decided to choose the path of revenge and as a result lost the one person who cared for her the most. Actually I disagree with the part that she always had an evil streak, by saying that, its somewhat implied in my POV that she was born evil, and she no control over it. I think humans by nature have a good side and a bad side, and after going through so much, Ayesha took revenge. Her need for revenge did not come out of selfishness or even evilness. Her actions had a reason, a purpose. Misguided as it may be. She got completely evil only when she got consumed by her revenge. As to why she has forgotten the mother for whom she is supposed to have done all this, to me it only goes to show that whatever be her initial trigger for the revenge she is completely lost now. Her sense of purpose is gone. She has become a horse with blinkers on, only seeing one thing, ie.,getting Milsi away from Prachi and to herself. Nothing or nobody matters to her now. I kinda disagree with this too, because I think the episode with Milsi and Ayesha in the office made it clear that Amrita comes first for Ayesha. If she'd been totally in her revenge mode, she would not have given a thought to her mother. But she was worried. Even ignoring that as a gesture of concern, the point is, the way Ayesha was portrayed in the beginning made it abundantly clear that the person she cared the most for was her mother. I remember this dialogue she told Neev when she decided to work with him for some CD, she said that while she might not like him, she would do anything, anything, even die for her mother. Her mother wasn't the "initial trigger" she was the main cause for the revenge, the person who played the most vital role in causing the revenge. That is why I feel it does not make sense logically to have her forget her mother. I would have accepted your reason if they'd shown Ayesha forgetting her mother gradually, but it did not happen that way, it changed overnight. Suddenly Ayesha went to someone who would die for her mother to somebody who did not spare even one thought to her mom. I find it hard to accept the fact that Amrita whose suffering Ayesha saw everyday at her house, who Ayesha cared about the most suddenly became an insignificant factor in the scheme of things.This makes me think that the creatives wanted to remove, or negate the factor that made Ayesha human. Or maybe they'd simply forgotten Amrita, just like they've forgotten Suyesha now. I can only speculate.

Sonia, Amrita's puzzle was finally solved. I believe she is in a hospital and not in SM. Remember Neev's phone call to Ayesha asking her to go to Jeevan jyoti mental asylum to see her mother and she says she is not in that asylum but in some hospital? No wonder we do not hear any sounds in SM. Well, I think this is lazy writing by the creatives and does not account for the fact that nobody in the house, even thought or cared about Amrita or to visit Amrita, or the fact that Amrita was never shown despatched to the hospital , and not to forget the primary fact that Ayesha never wanted her mother to go into a mental hospital, she thought her mother deserved better, infact again there was an episode in which her mother was about to get electrocuted, while Prachi came and saved the day. I don't remember the details but that is why I think this revelation was a last minute one, otherwise Amrita was another disappeared character just like Suyesha right now. Infact, why was Amrita sent to the hospital? Everyone in the house, besides Alaap, went alone pretty ok with her. Ayesha + Prachi definately did not want Amrita to go to the mental hospital according to my recollection. (I am a little unsure). Still if I'm wrong about the mental hospital thing, I still feel that we would've got atleast one scene of her mother, in the past 2 years (in show wise). The complete dissappearance of her mother, makes me think that its not Ayesha who lost her path, but the fact that the creatives had forgotten Amrita, and thus the real reason Ayesha had gone negative.



Btw all of the above in no way justifies Ayesha's actions. Infact her actions were justifiable only with Alaap. The suffering she inflicted on Prachi, on the Shah family is completely unjustified, however justified it might be in her own head.

I pretty much feel the creatives have butchered Ayesha's character. Because it seems somewhere down the line, her main reason for revenge has changed. I think thats why we primarily disagree, because I think it is an illogical twist, and you feel that this shows how the revenge has consumed Ayesha.

But, regardless of her reasons, I pretty much feel the same way about her as you do right now, that she is evil with no scope for redemption.

Edited by meteora_smt - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Opti and Meteora, again I read both you posts and enjoyed the discussion, I didn't have anything fantastic to contribute so kept quiet. I just want to acknowledge both of your contribution and thoughts to this topic. Thank you both so very much.

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