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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: Magno

😆 I doubt that. I don't think Ayesha's that important for him now, really.

It's very much like cheating but seriously I think the only answer for this is because creative want them all in one house, there's just no other logical explanation for this SM circus.



Magno, you said it honey.😃

By wondering if Milind allowed Neev and Ayesha to stay back for the sake having a friend & confidant around... you are overlooking the very basic quallity that defines Milind Mishra! Milind will NEVER share his pain with anyone else.... let alone sharing he will not even want to show it! That is the precise reason why when Milind is hurt and in pain and he has people around... he is livid and becomes a terror. He will not give anyone the opportunity of seeing him vulnerable. His bottled up pain comes out as anger and never as a pain... he allows himself the luxury of breaking down only in solitude. He will mask his pain with his anger! He will not let anyone come near him and share his pain, he has been a loner, a silent brooder always... the only person who managed to break that defense of his was Prachi and Prachi it is and will always be. Even Ayesha couldnt break that defense in the last 20 years. Milind doesnt need anyone's shoulder to cry, nor a sympathetic ear to hear out his sob story def not Ayesha's. He has never has sought after Ayesha to come and listen to his sad story... It is only after an incisive, assertive probing session that Milind talks to Ayesha but even then... very rarely does he give out what is going on in his heart with respect to his relationship with Prachi... it is never the entire truth of the conditon his heart is in. And have you seen he is always is the 1st one to walk out of a conversation with Ayesha on these matters.... and he is being questioned for looking out for support? The way I see it there is no deep interpretation required... because it is the very basic quality of Milind Mishra

And as far as the SM goes... agreed Milind could have said Neev wanted to stay in his house. Agreed Milind doesnt have reasons to allow Neev to stay back. But the entire point of contention is WHY Neev is staying in Milind's house and not why Milind is allowing him to stay? Is he waiting for Milind to throw him out😕? I thought this entire battle was for something called 'redeeming self respect'. How is staying in Milind's house and scheming his downfall not only in financial terms but tarnishing Milind's hard earned reputation going to enhance Neev's selfrespect?😕

And yes, Milind asked Ayesha & Neev to stay back because he wanted to see them suffer the way he was... and he told them so. Which is exactly why I say if Milind has negative intentions towards you... he will let you know and give you an opportunity to counter him or just be prepared for what is coming up if he has sealed all escape routes. If he is quiet it means he is upto nothing, nothing negative... you can trust Milind even as your enemy😆 He called off his revenge against Ayesha a long time back... any doubts on that front😕?
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: shali

😆 😆 😆
suyesha helping alaap counting 😆 😆 😆 ......

yasmin... are chances are better off with alaap oops not to forget suyasha 🤣 🤣🤣..

🤣 They sure are the best couple around.....🤣

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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: $weet Ema

Sum^^Alaap is indeed a good husband, dancing to his wife's tunes, 😆 Makes me think why on earth is he still after sukriti?😕

🤣 I know...am as confused as you.....🤣

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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: chituku

whatever u say abt millu i agree ryka. but joining wid wife against husband is wrong in mills part. he needs to stay awaayyyyyyyyy frm ayesha periood.he needs to understand as a man no man can tolerate his wife wid someonelse. whatever the relation btn them. they r still married.i agree neev has to go out of that shah masion .that good for nothing wife of his stays there and whatever the reason i must say he is loyal to his marraige 😆



Did I miss something😕 When did Milind join hands with Ayesha against her husband😕 God, give Milind some credit to have the ability to fight Neev on his own and singlehandedly. He doesnt need his darling wife or his friend's help in this regard. He didnt ask for Ayesha for any help at all... infact even yday he told 'you dont bother, I will take care of Neev' He is clear... he doesnt want anyone's interferrence or help to tackle Neev! I cant blame Milind for the loyalty and interest Prachi and Ayesha show in his favour in this so called war... Milind doesnt need any of it and even their help wont really matter... because Milind is capable of striking back even when he is down and out and singlehandedly at that!

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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: Ryka



Did I miss something😕 When did Milind join hands with Ayesha against her husband😕 God, give Milind some credit to have the ability to fight Neev on his own and singlehandedly. He doesnt need his darling wife or his friend's help in this regard. He didnt ask for Ayesha for any help at all... infact even yday he told 'you dont bother, I will take care of Neev' He is clear... he doesnt want anyone's interferrence or help to tackle Neev! I cant blame Milind for the loyalty and interest Prachi and Ayesha show in his favour in this so called war... Milind doesnt need any of it and even their help wont really matter... because Milind is capable of striking back even when he is down and out and singlehandedly at that!

I think Ryka waht annoys everyone about Milli is that he lets or allows Aysha to tag along with him...like going to Pachgani with her....then ....they are always together...

Where as...Milli can't eveen see Neev adn Prachin in the same room or even talking...

Thus....that habit of Milli baby .....is pretty annoying...let...or allowing Ayehs close to him..or even talking to her...or taking her with him on a business trip that he could have gone on his own...without taking Ayehsa..with him....

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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: Ryka


By wondering if Milind allowed Neev and Ayesha to stay back for the sake having a friend & confidant around... you are overlooking the very basic quallity that defines Milind Mishra! Milind will NEVER share his pain with anyone else.... let alone sharing he will not even want to show it!

I dont think so. If he really wanted to be alone when the first time he heard the cliff declaration why was he assuring Ayesha that he only loves (note the present tense and not past tense) on whom he has not right and not Prachi in whom he also has no rights since she does not love him anyway. He then allows himself to be led by the witch, gets drunk when she gives him the drink and then sleeps next to her (making himself vulnerable for the ONS implication and probably a fake baby track later). Granted he did not seek her, but he did not push her away either. Everytime she starts off ratling away abotu Prachi he ends up trying to tell her that Prachi means nothing to him (which seems like an assurance to her). All he needed to do was to just ignore her. Why does he not do that? Even yesterday he tells her waht he intends to do with Prachi. Now any need for that?

He will not let anyone come near him and share his pain, he has been a loner, a silent brooder always... the only person who managed to break that defense of his was Prachi and Prachi it is and will always be. Even Ayesha couldnt break that defense in the last 20 years. Milind doesnt need anyone's shoulder to cry, nor a sympathetic ear to hear out his sob story def not Ayesha's. He has never has sought after Ayesha to come and listen to his sad story... It is only after an incisive, assertive probing session that Milind talks to Ayesha but even then... very rarely does he give out what is going on in his heart with respect to his relationship with Prachi... it is never the entire truth of the conditon his heart is in. And have you seen he is always is the 1st one to walk out of a conversation with Ayesha on these matters.... and he is being questioned for looking out for support? The way I see it there is no deep interpretation required... because it is the very basic quality of Milind Mishra

Before Prachi came into his life he was always sharing his pain with Ayesha. There was that emotional moment where before he leaves for Turkey where they hug. He let her see his tears. He tells her how betrayed and lonely he feels considering what happened with Suki and his father. Going by what Ayesha says, there had been many more such instances. So dont make him out to be some strong man who can mask all his emotions and does'nt break down before others. He is as vulnerable as any other person. More so in this case since he loves Prachi to pieces and feels betrayed by her. I just mentioned that he wanted to keep Ayesha around, not that I believed in it but more as a sarcastic remark. But I dont find any justification for him to keep her or Neev around especially since he has given up on the revenge track a long time ago. It is only much later that the Ayesha suicide attempt took place and Prachi herself wanted Ayesha to stay around. But that still does not explain why Neev should be allowed to stay, especially since he says that he even managed to entry their bedroom. Now if that is what he has seen and believes, I would expect him to throw him out right on his bum thinking how dare Neev enter their bedroom? But no he does not. Instead he himself entered Neev's bedrrom when he took Ayesha there (because she was 'hurt'). I can just imagine if Neev had done a similar thing for Prachi how he would have reacted. &nbs p;

And as far as the SM goes... agreed Milind could have said Neev wanted to stay in his house. Agreed Milind doesnt have reasons to allow Neev to stay back. But the entire point of contention is WHY Neev is staying in Milind's house and not why Milind is allowing him to stay? Is he waiting for Milind to throw him out😕? I thought this entire battle was for something called 'redeeming self respect'. How is staying in Milind's house and scheming his downfall not only in financial terms but tarnishing Milind's hard earned reputation going to enhance Neev's selfrespect?😕

And yes, Milind asked Ayesha & Neev to stay back because he wanted to see them suffer the way he was... and he told them so. Which is exactly why I say if Milind has negative intentions towards you... he will let you know and give you an opportunity to counter him or just be prepared for what is coming up if he has sealed all escape routes. If he is quiet it means he is upto nothing, nothing negative... you can trust Milind even as your enemy😆 He called off his revenge against Ayesha a long time back... any doubts on that front😕?

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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: kubare

I think Ryka waht annoys everyone about Milli is that he lets or allows Aysha to tag along with him...like going to Pachgani with her....then ....they are always together...

Where as...Milli can't eveen see Neev adn Prachin in the same room or even talking...

Thus....that habit of Milli baby .....is pretty annoying...let...or allowing Ayehs close to him..or even talking to her...or taking her with him on a business trip that he could have gone on his own...without taking Ayehsa..with him....



I can understand being annoyed... I get highly irritated... but why question that guy's intentions... How many time has the guy told us and proved that he means nothing more than freindship in good faith with Ayesha even though knowing Ayesha has feeling more than friendship for him😕.

As far as the Panchgani trip and why Ayesha went along... well it was because she was his Business associate... the meeting/conference in question was a deal which he has signed with Ayesha... and he left immediately as an SOS to save that contract and her being there would have been just as important. That trip was a Business trip and the person who went along with him was his Business associate. The person he had an encounter with was a friend and he is thoroughly ashamed for over stepping his limits due to his hallucination and he sincerly appologised and continues to feel ashamed. He knows his limits and they are very well defined limits. And I give it to him for being confident about that... he is never edgy, guilty or confused with Ayesha because he knows his limits and he is clear and confident about himself and that for me matters. I would blow up on his face if he avoids Ayesha because he cant handle her.

Coming to his tolerance level being zero when it comes to Prachi and Neev... though i dont approve of it because I have the advantage of knowing the entire truth unlike Milind i understand him given what rot is filled in his head and the beliefs and insecurities that he holds for Prachi. and some credit surely goes to his rotten luck for showing up at the wrong time, all the times😡. And I dont understand why at his sight Prachi & neev start getting edgy and leave their conversation mid way😕

And for future Prachi really has to take a call on Neev's place in her life and define it well and with limits and make that Loud and Clear to Milind, Neev and Neev's wife.. she should stick to her stand(which isnt new...may I add) irrespective of the fact Milind or Neev like it or not. She cant treat Neev like a stranger, closed chapter in her life and make Milind believe so and then take the liberity of putting Neev's honour, relationships and future at stake as if she owns Neev. She might even be justified to play around with Milind's emotions... because according to her how much one hurts the other is a barometer to measure Love😕! But she has no bloody business in dragging Neev into this mess😡.

Milind questions you because he does have his reasons how ever trivial and unjustified it sounds... he has those issues and they are important to him. She feels fit to answer them and clear his misunderstanding... then Good. If she doesnt want to clarify her stand because her integrity is being questioned... fair enough... ask him to go take a hike(like the way she told him on Oct 15th) but for heavensake dont remain silent... if Milind could read her silence and was secure about his love... he wont have created an issue in the 1st place.

Milind's problem isnt that he cant(doesnt) trust Prachi perse... he is insecure about his fate in love itself. He doesnt trust fate at all... He is a very confident guy who can write his own destiny (his success) but when it comes to love... he is insecure, because he has allowed Love to overpower from the beginning... In front of Love he accepts defeat without a fight...yes he does put up trivial denials... but he knows from deep within he has has given up. His inability to have control on love in his life(esp after a betrayal he faced) makes him insecure and restless. He tries to hold that love with an iron hand... which is what triggers off implusive extreme reactions... which die done in max hour's time... because with a ray of rationality which comes in... he knows one shouldnt hold love... but let go.... and which is precisely why for 2 months continously he bugged us with his Divorce nonsense😡. Prachi has been his only source of unconditional love... he lost his mom when he was very young, his father always seem to have a problem with him, Sukruti herself needed a parent's love and Ayesha was too self centered to give him that kind of love. fate took away his mom and Ayesha from him... he is going to unreasonably apprehensive about lossing Prachi.... he would have had that fear all along... it would have settled only with time and peace around him.

I am not defending him nor justifying his actions... I am merely stating his mind & heart the way it is... it has reasons...unlike what is made of it. Agreed the reasons that I have stated are irrational, unjustified... but they are important to that guy and he is making his life along with Prachi and ours hell. Problems are bad enough... the kind of the guy Milind is... He can make it worse with his degree of reactions. Have we forgotten he said 'Salla, yehi tho meri problem hai, Tension leta hoon tho zyada aur deta hoon tho zyada' Milind, is a very difficult guy to deal with... but once u know him, he is the easiest to deal with. All I am saying is if you know him, know better than rubbing him off on the wrong side... you will create a monster who will keep growing with every moment the negativity continues. Having created that monster... take responsibility for it
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Posted: 17 years ago
Edited by Ryka - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: Ryka

Edited by optimist - 17 years ago

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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: optimist



I am sorry if that offended you... never intended to insult your intellect... esp when I do have to do a lot of thinking If i answer you. As far as that selling the story went... It was in humour trying to give it a feel of a friendly banter because i realised our discussions are way beyond serious... I am sorry if I took that liberty i shouldnt have. The only point that i wanted to put across was that Milind was lying through his teeth. What you said is right, no point agreeing to disagree everytime....No matter what i say it will be read with my reputation as Milind's torch bearer and my undiluted, unadultered adulation for Milind (which does annoy me at times, i have to go about explaining everytime, if i am misinterpreted)... It seems that I could never express my reasons, understanding or justification based on Human and Creative sensibilities when I talk about Milind... which is why I have reputation around, I am sorry for my short coming as a writer having gone the wrong way and hurt you. I am sorry once again.

Edited by Ryka - 17 years ago

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