KZK2 TRP Discussion #1 DT note: 35,103 and 111 - Page 94

Here's THE THING! This forum looks more like a high school wrestling ring than a place where people come together to have a constructive dialogue or discussion.

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Secondly, this topic isn't about one upping ANY fandom on this forum. Frankly, I stopped giving a damn about WHO ended with WHOM a LONG time ago. I used to tolerate this show for KSG. (so thank you for the mukti).

But, I can't help but notice how sensational the discourse here has been. A discourse more high on emotions than FACTS! Now since this forum claims that Naveen Babu's track was indeed the best track of the show, and the show was MASSIVELY POPULAR, and Bajaj TOOK IT DOWN, I had to GO BACK and do some 'factual' analysis to see if any of it made sense! LO AND BEHOLD, here are my findings:

But before that:

A disclaimer: The numbers run upto the ek chhat track. That's because I got tired and don't care about the ones after this much😆

Okay let's start.

KZK2

BEGGINING TRP 2.1

2.1 - 15TH SLOT

2.1 - 18TH SLOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

1.8 - 13th SLOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

2 - 15TH SLOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

2.3 - 12th SLOT (jumps up -HINA'S ENTRY - KOMOLIKA) - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

1.5 - OUT OF TOP 20 - OBVIOUSLY NOT LEADING THE SLOT

2.5 - 10TH SLOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

25. - 11th SLOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

11th SPOT - SLOT LEADER FOR 1ST TIME

2.9 - 7th SPOT (NAVEEN BABU REVELATION/CLIMAX)

2.3 - 11th SPOT (SLOT LEAD LOST)

2.2 - 16th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

15TH SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

1.9 - 18th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

2.0 - 18th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

2.3 - 14th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

15th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

Komolika CENTRIC Track begins

15th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

1.9 - SLOT LEAD (HIGH POINT - DEATH PROMO - CONFESSION)

1.8 - SLOT LEAD - 7TH SPOT

1.6 - SLOT LOST -

1.7 - SLOT LEAD - 6/7TH POSITION

2.0 - 5TH SPOT - SLOT LEAD

2.2 - 4TH SPOT -SLOT LEAD

2.3 - SLOT LEAD - 3/4TH SPOT

2.2 - SLOT LEAD - 2nd POSITION

2.1 - SLOT LEAD - 6TH

2. 0 - SLOT LEAD - 8TH SPOT

2.2 - SLOT LEAD - 4TH SPOT

3.0 - SLOT LEAD 1ST SPOT - KOMO CLIMAX

3.0 - SLOT LEAD - 2ND

2.8 - SLOT LEAD - 4TH SPOT (KOMO EXIT WEEK)

2.0 - SLOT LEAD - 5TH SPOT

1.8 - SLOT LEAD - TOP 10

KSG'S ENTRY

2.0 - SLOT LEAD - 5TH SPOT

2.0 SLOT LEAD - 5TH SPOT

1.8 - 6TH SPOT - SLOT SHARING

2.0 - 6TH SPOT - SLOT LEAD

2.1 - 4TH SPOT - SLOT LEAD (BJ/PR WEDDING)

2.0 - 8TH SPOT - SLOT LEAD

2.1 - 6/7th SPOT SLOT LEAD

2.2 - 8TH SPOT - SLOT LEADER

2.0 - 8th/9th SPOT - SLOT LEADER

1.9 - 12th - (ek chhatt begins) - SLOT LEAD (N/A)

MAJOR ANALYSES:

Naveen Babu track

Slot Lead 2 times/5+ months

TOP 10: 2times/5+months

ANUPRE CENTRIC TRACK - Love Realization/Mishika

Slot Lead: 0

TOP 10: 0

Komolika/AnuPre

Highest IMPACT. SLOT LEAD. TOP 10

If you compare the FIRST TWO MAJOR TRACKS, that is almost 8 MONTHS of anupre centric CONTENT on this show, this show was NEITHER the slot leader, NOT ANYWHERE near top 10! Naveen Babu's track brought this show THE WORST positions. Compared to that, the initial Bajaj track still was leading the slot.

Another PATTERN THAT EMERGED: This show ONLY PICKED UP, took on the slot and the TOP TEN when they made it KOMOLIKA centric, and made Prerna and Komolika fight over Anurag. Take that one plot out of the show and you'll have a colossal failure at your hands!

Also, before people come at me with Naveen Babu track had 2+ ratings HA HA HA! So I confirmed this with a friend in the higher ups of TV, and here's the thing! The rating systems works LIKE A PERCENTILE SYSTEM. It means because of changing trends, and a lot of things, the highest ratings over a period of time are taken as conclusive. So let's say your BIGGEST, NO.1 show gets a rating of around 1.8-2.3 over 3 weeks. THEN Every other show's rating will be taken in relation to that! Because that's the overall relative audience pool you're working with! That is why if SP's no.1 show or the no.1 show picks up 2.0 itself or even 3, the next thing will be how close to that figure ARE YOU. Obviously, SLOT LEAD matters the most too. If your show is leading ITS SLOT, and is maintaining a relatively positive trend, it's NOT going to be in the danger zone whatever that is!

^^^It's pretty straightforward too! If you get 2.0 and 14-15 SHOWS GET 2.0 BEFORE YOU it's the norm. Nothing out of the world, NO ANOMALY, and definitely not an indicator of your 'outstanding' performance. You still aren't leading your slot either. HAIL HAIL!😆

PLUS since logic assumes similarity in assumptions! If you say A SINGLE EK CHHAT track which obviously didn't work FOR ANYBODY, means the audience rejected Bajaj toh phir pehle 8 months. 8 months/multiple tracks vs ONE ek chhat track which was Bajaj vs Anurag rather than Bajaj x Prerna.🤣 (idc about KP ka Bajaj or whatever happened post covid because the actor was replaced). If someone could get me ek chhat track ke slot/trp positions, you'll be an angel (with proof of course!)

Let's GET TO THE POINT! The only thing that worked for this show's AUDIENCE, and brought in ratings was KOMOLIKA! Prerna vs Komolika. TWO FREAKING TRACKS (SAME PLOT) out of a hoopla of tracks, got them the ratings! But funnily enough, they could NEVER sustain those ratings when they shifted the focus off KOMOLIKA and tried to play at another angles! THE ABSOLUTE DISMAL RATINGS OF THE VIRAJ TRACK! Bajaj toh phir bhi decent tha.

Another thing, comparing prerish to Anupre IS STUPID because Prerish NEVER had any of the plot dynamics anupre did for a comparison to take place.

Anyway, this isn't to talk about Bajaj or Komolika! Frankly, this season's Bajaj was a snorefest too and I'm glad KSG, for whatever reason, left and mujhe mukti milgayi. But PLEASE instead of throwing blames here and there ACKNOWLEDGE THE TRUTH. This season's WRITING DID NOT CONNECT! There is a reason the creatives ONLY favor Komolika centric tracks. And, that's because Komolika, in whatever capacity, was the only one who worked for them THIS SEASON! And no I'm not MAKING anything up. This is based off numbers and SLOT POSITIONS.

Okay, toodles! Now we can ALL BLAME the writing, acknowledge our biases, celebrate or curse or mourn or whatever in peace. 🤔

In the end, happy mukti to all of us.😎

p.s. I've picked up the ratings from our trp threads/salil

To the mods: It's absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to do a show/character success//failure analyses without putting the TRPS side by side!

Res

Unres..

Hello

Oh my God, the effort that you put in this, the hard work.. Kudos to you yaar. This is awesome. Just imagining how long it must have taken you to get the data is spinning my head.

And so we have in black and white now, Komolika won this season. And why ever not? In this snoozefest of a show where every character is more boring than the other, Komolika hits like a punch to the gut. She is the most enjoyable thing in the show and both Hina and Aamna have made this character memorable. Komolika might be the only thing worth remember from this horror. I'm now imagining how awesome the show could have been if Komolika was the grey character that was redeemed this season.

But even that hope is marred by my knowledge of how utterly useless the writers of this show are. So maybe there was no salvaging of KZK2 at all.

Now coming to the thorn in my side, Bajaj. I'm here, upto my throat in this sewer of a show because of that character and I have to agree with you.. He was a disappointment through and through. Whatever gleams of greatness we saw in the initial scenes remained mere gleams. And PreRish never took off. I don't think the creatives even put enough effort in building the ship. Whatever PreRish we have is what we made from our imagination and our memories of what the couple was. And if I'm cribbing, I would also like to lay some blame at your door. Because if you hadn't written those awesome OSs and drabbles, I wouldn't have been here at all 😭😭😭.

But thank you for making this topic. For putting this effort because finally we can see what is the full picture. Some characters have been a convenient scapegoat but it is plain to see that the show was a failure. The only good thing about this show was it's vamp. And I'm so glad that this show is ending finally.

The 3rd October cannot come soon enough.

~Aparna

EDIT

TRP discussions aren't allowed in other threads. But, I hope this analysis is allowed because it's totally factual and unbiased.

THANK YOU!

This show is a gargantuan DISASTER. #FACT that can't be challenged.

No matter how much I abhor lowly catfights between two jobless women over a spineless man, it actually clicked. 🤪

tq TM

see what hit jodi did after Komo exit 🤣

Bt biggest flop show, couple

Hina Khan totally deserved the high salary and hype she received. 😯

Not bringing TRPs in my comment to be on the safer side. 😆

However, the data makes it crystal clear that viewers were looking forward to the character. But, teasers can't tempt or fetch you results after a certain point. Bajaj’s character was hardly allowed to move beyond the narrow restrictions imposed by teasers.

Oh it's moved. I can bring TRPs now. 🤣

So done with IF. Toodles🤔

SUPER FLOP DEBUT AT 15TH RANK. 🥳

1.5 - OUT OF TOP 20 - OBVIOUSLY NOT LEADING THE SLOT

^ Wow! Who is to be blamed for this? Bajaj wasn't there.

Komolika CENTRIC Track begins

15th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

1.9 - SLOT LEAD (HIGH POINT - DEATH PROMO - CONFESSION)

^ SERIOUSLY! Just 1.9? RB track 1 brought this number without promotions. 😂

1.8 - SLOT LEAD - 7TH SPOT

1.6 - SLOT LOST -

1.7 - SLOT LEAD - 6/7TH POSITION

^ These numbers were pretty common in 2018. Though it's conveniently ignored. 😆

3.0 - SLOT LEAD 1ST SPOT - KOMO CLIMAX

3.0 - SLOT LEAD - 2ND

2.8 - SLOT LEAD - 4TH SPOT (KOMO EXIT WEEK)

2.0 - SLOT LEAD - 5TH SPOT

1.8 - SLOT LEAD - TOP 10

^ Hina/Komolika deserves all the credit. Period.

2.8 se 1.8? True picture of the capability of this couple. And that was after engagement. Wow! Clear rejection. 😂

Originally posted by: .amigos.

Here's THE THING! This forum looks more like a high school wrestling ring than a place where people come together to have a constructive dialogue or discussion.

*DISCLAIMER REMOVE BY THE MODERATOR*

Secondly, this topic isn't about one upping ANY fandom on this forum. Frankly, I stopped giving a damn about WHO ended with WHOM a LONG time ago. I used to tolerate this show for KSG. (so thank you for the mukti).

But, I can't help but notice how sensational the discourse here has been. A discourse more high on emotions than FACTS! Now since this forum claims that Naveen Babu's track was indeed the best track of the show, and the show was MASSIVELY POPULAR, and Bajaj TOOK IT DOWN, I had to GO BACK and do some 'factual' analysis to see if any of it made sense! LO AND BEHOLD, here are my findings:

But before that:

A disclaimer: The numbers run upto the ek chhat track. That's because I got tired and don't care about the ones after this much😆

Okay let's start.

KZK2

BEGGINING TRP 2.1

2.1 - 15TH SLOT

2.1 - 18TH SLOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

1.8 - 13th SLOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

2 - 15TH SLOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

2.3 - 12th SLOT (jumps up -HINA'S ENTRY - KOMOLIKA) - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

1.5 - OUT OF TOP 20 - OBVIOUSLY NOT LEADING THE SLOT

2.5 - 10TH SLOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

25. - 11th SLOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

11th SPOT - SLOT LEADER FOR 1ST TIME

2.9 - 7th SPOT (NAVEEN BABU REVELATION/CLIMAX)

2.3 - 11th SPOT (SLOT LEAD LOST)

2.2 - 16th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

15TH SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

1.9 - 18th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

2.0 - 18th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

2.3 - 14th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

15th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

Komolika CENTRIC Track begins

15th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

1.9 - SLOT LEAD (HIGH POINT - DEATH PROMO - CONFESSION)

1.8 - SLOT LEAD - 7TH SPOT

1.6 - SLOT LOST -

1.7 - SLOT LEAD - 6/7TH POSITION

2.0 - 5TH SPOT - SLOT LEAD

2.2 - 4TH SPOT -SLOT LEAD

2.3 - SLOT LEAD - 3/4TH SPOT

2.2 - SLOT LEAD - 2nd POSITION

2.1 - SLOT LEAD - 6TH

2. 0 - SLOT LEAD - 8TH SPOT

2.2 - SLOT LEAD - 4TH SPOT

3.0 - SLOT LEAD 1ST SPOT - KOMO CLIMAX

3.0 - SLOT LEAD - 2ND

2.8 - SLOT LEAD - 4TH SPOT (KOMO EXIT WEEK)

2.0 - SLOT LEAD - 5TH SPOT

1.8 - SLOT LEAD - TOP 10

KSG'S ENTRY

2.0 - SLOT LEAD - 5TH SPOT

2.0 SLOT LEAD - 5TH SPOT

1.8 - 6TH SPOT - SLOT SHARING

2.0 - 6TH SPOT - SLOT LEAD

2.1 - 4TH SPOT - SLOT LEAD (BJ/PR WEDDING)

2.0 - 8TH SPOT - SLOT LEAD

2.1 - 6/7th SPOT SLOT LEAD

2.2 - 8TH SPOT - SLOT LEADER

2.0 - 8th/9th SPOT - SLOT LEADER

1.9 - 12th - (ek chhatt begins) - SLOT LEAD (N/A)

MAJOR ANALYSES:

Naveen Babu track

Slot Lead 2 times/5+ months

TOP 10: 2times/5+months

ANUPRE CENTRIC TRACK - Love Realization/Mishika

Slot Lead: 0

TOP 10: 0

Komolika/AnuPre

Highest IMPACT. SLOT LEAD. TOP 10

If you compare the FIRST TWO MAJOR TRACKS, that is almost 8 MONTHS of anupre centric CONTENT on this show, this show was NEITHER the slot leader, NOT ANYWHERE near top 10! Naveen Babu's track brought this show THE WORST positions. Compared to that, the initial Bajaj track still was leading the slot.

Another PATTERN THAT EMERGED: This show ONLY PICKED UP, took on the slot and the TOP TEN when they made it KOMOLIKA centric, and made Prerna and Komolika fight over Anurag. Take that one plot out of the show and you'll have a colossal failure at your hands!

Also, before people come at me with Naveen Babu track had 2+ ratings HA HA HA! So I confirmed this with a friend in the higher ups of TV, and here's the thing! The rating systems works LIKE A PERCENTILE SYSTEM. It means because of changing trends, and a lot of things, the highest ratings over a period of time are taken as conclusive. So let's say your BIGGEST, NO.1 show gets a rating of around 1.8-2.3 over 3 weeks. THEN Every other show's rating will be taken in relation to that! Because that's the overall relative audience pool you're working with! That is why if SP's no.1 show or the no.1 show picks up 2.0 itself or even 3, the next thing will be how close to that figure ARE YOU. Obviously, SLOT LEAD matters the most too. If your show is leading ITS SLOT, and is maintaining a relatively positive trend, it's NOT going to be in the danger zone whatever that is!

^^^It's pretty straightforward too! If you get 2.0 and 14-15 SHOWS GET 2.0 BEFORE YOU it's the norm. Nothing out of the world, NO ANOMALY, and definitely not an indicator of your 'outstanding' performance. You still aren't leading your slot either. HAIL HAIL!😆

PLUS since logic assumes similarity in assumptions! If you say A SINGLE EK CHHAT track which obviously didn't work FOR ANYBODY, means the audience rejected Bajaj toh phir pehle 8 months. 8 months/multiple tracks vs ONE ek chhat track which was Bajaj vs Anurag rather than Bajaj x Prerna.🤣 (idc about KP ka Bajaj or whatever happened post covid because the actor was replaced). If someone could get me ek chhat track ke slot/trp positions, you'll be an angel (with proof of course!)

Let's GET TO THE POINT! The only thing that worked for this show's AUDIENCE, and brought in ratings was KOMOLIKA! Prerna vs Komolika. TWO FREAKING TRACKS (SAME PLOT) out of a hoopla of tracks, got them the ratings! But funnily enough, they could NEVER sustain those ratings when they shifted the focus off KOMOLIKA and tried to play at another angles! THE ABSOLUTE DISMAL RATINGS OF THE VIRAJ TRACK! Bajaj toh phir bhi decent tha.

Another thing, comparing prerish to Anupre IS STUPID because Prerish NEVER had any of the plot dynamics anupre did for a comparison to take place.

Anyway, this isn't to talk about Bajaj or Komolika! Frankly, this season's Bajaj was a snorefest too and I'm glad KSG, for whatever reason, left and mujhe mukti milgayi. But PLEASE instead of throwing blames here and there ACKNOWLEDGE THE TRUTH. This season's WRITING DID NOT CONNECT! There is a reason the creatives ONLY favor Komolika centric tracks. And, that's because Komolika, in whatever capacity, was the only one who worked for them THIS SEASON! And no I'm not MAKING anything up. This is based off numbers and SLOT POSITIONS.

Okay, toodles! Now we can ALL BLAME the writing, acknowledge our biases, celebrate or curse or mourn or whatever in peace. 🤔

In the end, happy mukti to all of us.😎

p.s. I've picked up the ratings from our trp threads/salil

To the mods: It's absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to do a show/character success//failure analyses without putting the TRPS side by side!

Bajaj ko blame kar ke kya hoga? 🤣