What's missing in KZK 2.0? - Page 2

Originally posted by: Autumn09

Story is the foremost ingredient to make a show successful. The makers are just relying on fans of Erica, Hina, Karan Singh Grover and Parth to compensate for their half baked story. TRP giri, chalo kisi popular actor ko introduce Karte hain, story par mehnat karne ki kya zaroorat. The dialogues are so lame. Even a talented actress like Aamna can't salvage the show. I feel it's not justified to consider the actors responsible for this mess because Erica was wonderful in the previous show(I can't say anything about Parth because I've started watching KY2 after his character died, but while he's not a great actor, he is decent enough) but it's true the actors couldn't bring the magic.I'm not rooting for AnuPre this season as I did in the previously. There is a half-hearted ness I see in their portrayal.

Edited to conform to rules can the tm avoid comparisons with season 1 repeatedly else the topic will have to be closed.Please stick to this season.- Kzk2 DT

I dont wanna talk about their acting everytime as every topic turns into a warzone...I being a P fan, cant relate to him, dont like him at all in this role.. if it was written better may be I would have ..if they are relying solely on the fanbase as their audience they r highly mistaken ...general audience looks for a complete package..good actors obviously help but they are secondary..people may ask the critics to write a better story but it's not their job...storywriting is the job of creatives ...they failed to write characters who connected with the audience....then they made a kachra out of the story by keeping the marital status ambiguous everytime , not uniting the leads, makig the m marry a third person as sacrifice and still tell us that this love is epic...each word spoken is contrary to the actions...next scrap each track and make more kachra out of it...bring the next vamp and not establish any base for her , aise hi kuch bhi karke she is now anurags wife...

Aamna no doubt is excellent ...but her character is repulsive ...a.vamp like sherlyn or tanu Manu whatever their names r , those types are bearable...how do they think she will make komo popular ? Never ...

Originally posted by: falah5

I no longer watch but the forum is really a fun place to get updates and also the never ending credits war😆.. Have nothing really to say about script because there's nothing to begin with. So here's by 2 cents on actors. Coz most of the itv shows have same standards but I believe they somehow perform better.

I for one was very very excited about parth-erica pairing but from promos I felt parth was not a fit to play. So what intrigued me for long was how parth transformed from a character like manik to anurag. As shitty the show was/is from beginning with all that doing stunts for saving a chunni etc.. Parth's portrayal and strong hold and Erica's falling off her acting pedestal like literally in every episode was surprising thing. I strtd feeling that parth was given more to say coz of his clear diction, screen presence and all erica did was give facial expressions with minimal dialogues (must be coz of the criticism on SNS). This kinda effected even anupre.

Also the way anupre began was unconventional.. Two good ppl falling fr each other with no hate-love angle very unusual for itv where ppl are used to watching love bloom between an angry young man with childhood issues & a bubbly happy woman

Also, Over time even parth lost his mojo to play as anurag although the clips from current track says he has again got back in form. May b it was to establish other characters they literally made him spew and enact the same nonsense. But still I feel he should put his papers down coz dis way will loose whaever he learnt of acting from his prev show.

As of now the only intriguing factor for me is on what basis is erica being awarded time and again. Like why? Is it still for her sonakshi act? Is it for so conveniently sleep walking at prime time show without getting fired?

Wwoohhh😆 Brilliant..nothing more to say...about actors etc

But this supposed "twisted" story of two people who dont have past issues , falling in love , what's unique about it ? Yes may be angry young man type love stories are now done to death but that's just u know..stagnancy factor...they were always there and still are..9.30, 10, and all shows starting from doordarshan...n they have sustained it , have done well/ have been doing pretty well unlike kzk..

Most important thing missing here is a decent story. Until and unless Mata hires better writers no actor or actress can get trp.

We may end up arguing day in and out but the fact remains that the story lacks grip. After naveen babu track the story went haywire absolutely with no comnect between the episodes.

Prerna komo drama gathered decent trp bcoz then we got a female lead overpowering the negative one so to some extent it was liked. But at the end of the day the story is lacking and the results are seen regularly.

Originally posted by: falah5

I no longer watch but the forum is really a fun place to get updates and also the never ending credits war😆.. Have nothing really to say about script because there's nothing to begin with. So here's by 2 cents on actors. Coz most of the itv shows have same standards but I believe they somehow perform better.

I for one was very very excited about parth-erica pairing but from promos I felt parth was not a fit to play. So what intrigued me for long was how parth transformed from a character like manik to anurag. As shitty the show was/is from beginning with all that doing stunts for saving a chunni etc.. Parth's portrayal and strong hold and Erica's falling off her acting pedestal like literally in every episode was surprising thing. I strtd feeling that parth was given more to say coz of his clear diction, screen presence and all erica did was give facial expressions with minimal dialogues (must be coz of the criticism on SNS). This kinda effected even anupre.

Also the way anupre began was unconventional.. Two good ppl falling fr each other with no hate-love angle very unusual for itv where ppl are used to watching love bloom between an angry young man with childhood issues & a bubbly happy woman

Also, Over time even parth lost his mojo to play as anurag although the clips from current track says he has again got back in form. May b it was to establish other characters they literally made him spew and enact the same nonsense. But still I feel he should put his papers down coz dis way will loose whaever he learnt of acting from his prev show.

As of now the only intriguing factor for me is on what basis is erica being awarded time and again. Like why? Is it still for her sonakshi act? Is it for so conveniently sleep walking at prime time show without getting fired?

In one year itself, we've got so many versions of AnuPre like Seedha Anurag-Bubbly Prerna, sacrificing Prerna-Kabir Singh Anurag, and so on. The only thing which remains constant is their cluelessness. I feel the writers are themselves clueless. If they had stocked to the original story they built up in the beginning and promos, instead of building ridiculous twists just for TRPs, the show would've not been such a mess. The values of characters are displayed only with their words not by their actions. When the show started, Prerna was a happy go lucky girl but the writers haven't shown that aspect of her character much. The personality differences of AnuPre has itself a good potential for the conflicts and misunderstanding. But they would just keep on adding characters who don't actually contribute much like Moloy's brother and sister in law. Prerna has no distinctive personality of her own rather than being a good person. I don't know whether it's the CVs or Erica's delivery, but Prerna is lacklustre. Parth is good but not that great for audience to tolerate the ridiculous writing. The only person I like in the acting department is Shubhavi who is breathing life in a dead show.

Originally posted by: _charu_

I dont wanna talk about their acting everytime as every topic turns into a warzone...I being a P fan, cant relate to him, dont like him at all in this role.. if it was written better may be I would have ..if they are relying solely on the fanbase as their audience they r highly mistaken ...general audience looks for a complete package..good actors obviously help but they are secondary..people may ask the critics to write a better story but it's not their job...storywriting is the job of creatives ...they failed to write characters who connected with the audience....then they made a kachra out of the story by keeping the marital status ambiguous everytime , not uniting the leads, makig the m marry a third person as sacrifice and still tell us that this love is epic...each word spoken is contrary to the actions...next scrap each track and make more kachra out of it...bring the next vamp and not establish any base for her , aise hi kuch bhi karke she is now anurags wife...

Aamna no doubt is excellent ...but her character is repulsive ...a.vamp like sherlyn or tanu Manu whatever their names r , those types are bearable...how do they think she will make komo popular ? Never ...

The characters in KZK are so dumb that we don't feel their struggles. If at least the antagonist was intelligent, it could make the show work but Komo ko to Anurag k siva kuch samajh me hi nahi aata. There is no story in KZK. The whole story of current track can be summed up in a single line: Sonalika trying to separate AnuPre as if AnuPre insaan nahi koi non living things ho jinki khud ki koi identity nahi h. Make the leads interact with other characters for things which are not about their soulmate connection. Prerna's relationship with her family can be summed up as Beta Anurag se door raho and Anu family is like don't go near Prerna. Ghar me aur koi baat h hi nahi karne ko. Office me bhi kuch kaam nahi. Give the characters some life.

First, making bajaj exit the show is a huge drawback of the story. No one is interested in a love story without some real trouble and strongly in love (with both positive n negetive vibes) third person.

Ekta's biggest mistake is- she heard her audinece. Audience who keeps flipping their opinions on every second episode.

The biggest drawback is prerna (not talking about Erica, so dont jump on me). The serial is lead by a female protagonist... The positive female protagonist. No matter how strong or how superb a negetive character is, it never hit a show. It contributes to hit the show. Same with the case of male protagonist. Yeah, some girls will sit before the tv set to adore the cute ML or dashing second ML but they wont hit the show. A ITV show is entirely run by the female lead. And i dont know how many of you actually like Prerna. Forget Erica, the actress behind it. Judge the character and tell me if ever prerna had intrigued you to the show in recent months? A big NO. SIDE characters will remain side characters always... Its a Prerna's show. Ekta should bear it on mind and work accordingly.. Not anurag, not komo, not bajaj....

For me, apart from the story, the list is below -

- The simplicity is missing in kzk2.0. The simplicity of a seedha saadha guy has to also match with the premise. But showing that this seedha saadha guy flying like a superman to save a chunri 🤣. THIS is what doesnt click with the audience. Then to fall in love itself, there is a big drama of FL ready to sell herself to a human trafficker and all that. Again, where is the LOVE story ??

- Morality. Both the leads are immoral and pukeworthy. The point here is not whether they are married or half married or 0.75 married to someone else or not. But the point is that the leads BELIEVE they are married to different people, yet happily resort to extra marital stuffs and emotional infidelity. I signed up for KZK2.0, not KANK2.0.

- Kasautiis !!!! This reboot has everything except the KASAUTIIS. 🤣 The leads are stuck in the chakravyuh of marriages that they don't have time to focus on any other kasautiis. KZK was not about 2 lovers facing kasautiis in deciding whether they are married or not, if married then how much of married, 1 spoon, 2 spoons married and all that. 😆 It was about 2 people who are bound by an undertone thread of love, breaking through all their kasautiis together that surrounds their families and them. It was never about only them. Here I don't see any real kasautii and their growth as a couple and individual while facing those hurdles. It's only about determining how much married they are .

More to be added later. Great discussion everyone. Apart from being PRB or RB or Prerna lover, I was a great fan of KZK1.0 first few years. That's why I started watching this show from Epi1 and OMG, I was as disappointed as the many variety of marriages I encountered in this shit. 🤣

Originally posted by: KamikazeKinght01

First, making bajaj exit the show is a huge drawback of the story. No one is interested in a love story without some real trouble and strongly in love (with both positive n negetive vibes) third person.

Ekta's biggest mistake is- she heard her audinece. Audience who keeps flipping their opinions on every second episode.

The biggest drawback is prerna (not talking about Erica, so dont jump on me). The serial is lead by a female protagonist... The positive female protagonist. No matter how strong or how superb a negetive character is, it never hit a show. It contributes to hit the show. Same with the case of male protagonist. Yeah, some girls will sit before the tv set to adore the cute ML or dashing second ML but they wont hit the show. A ITV show is entirely run by the female lead. And i dont know how many of you actually like Prerna. Forget Erica, the actress behind it. Judge the character and tell me if ever prerna had intrigued you to the show in recent months? A big NO. SIDE characters will remain side characters always... Its a Prerna's show. Ekta should bear it on mind and work accordingly.. Not anurag, not komo, not bajaj....

I am not sure if Mr. Bajaj's entry worked for the show as it should've been. I felt it was rushed and would've made a lot more sense if it was done two or three months after Komo's exit.

I've no problem if male lead gets an equal importance in the show. There were some if not many daily soaps which were told from the ML's perspective which were good but I agree, I don't find layers to Prerna's character. It's a one-dimensional character which is not handled as it should've been by the makers. She becomes happy go lucky one day, and then she becomes entirely somber with the burden of world on her shoulders. I have never connected to her during the show. Even the ML now is just a cookie cutter character without any depth. Their whole kasautiis look contrived and inorganic. If the CVs don't strengthen these characters, Komos and Bajajs can't salvage the show.

Also, I found the motivations of Komo and Bajaj to be artificial. It would have made a lot sense if Komo was after Anurag for some practical reason. It could be shown Anurag harmed Ronit or humiliated Chaube and Komo wanted revenge. But the entire monologue of Komo loving Anu doesn't suit her selfish nature. As for Bajaj, I felt he had some scores to settle with the Basus. Maybe Mohini/Moloy ruined his parents' business or something like that. It was shown he was after Basus but CVs ko-fir memory loss ho gaya and they brought kookie angle. I feel Anurag se zyada memory loss to CVs ka ho gaya.

Originally posted by: prerna4rishav

For me, apart from the story, the list is below -

- The simplicity is missing in kzk2.0. The simplicity of a seedha saadha guy has to also match with the premise. But showing that this seedha saadha guy flying like a superman to save a chunri 🤣. THIS is what doesnt click with the audience. Then to fall in love itself, there is a big drama of FL ready to sell herself to a human trafficker and all that. Again, where is the LOVE story ??

- Morality. Both the leads are immoral and pukeworthy. The point here is not whether they are married or half married or 0.75 married to someone else or not. But the point is that the leads BELIEVE they are married to different people, yet happily resort to extra marital stuffs and emotional infidelity. I signed up for KZK2.0, not KANK2.0.

- Kasautiis !!!! This reboot has everything except the KASAUTIIS. 🤣 The leads are stuck in the chakravyuh of marriages that they don't have time to focus on any other kasautiis. KZK was not about 2 lovers facing kasautiis in deciding whether they are married or not, if married then how much of married, 1 spoon, 2 spoons married and all that. 😆 It was about 2 people who are bound by an undertone thread of love, breaking through all their kasautiis together that surrounds their families and them. It was never about only them. Here I don't see any real kasautii and their growth as a couple and individual while facing those hurdles. It's only about determining how much married they are .

More to be added later. Great discussion everyone. Apart from being PRB or RB or Prerna lover, I was a great fan of KZK1.0 first few years. That's why I started watching this show from Epi1 and OMG, I was as disappointed as the many variety of marriages I encountered in this shit. 🤣

@Bold - That had me in splits. 🤣

I strongly believe this show needn’t have been rebooted. Could it have been adapted, with different names, setting etc, yes! But this reboot is akin to shooting themselves in the foot cuz the initial show for ITV was pathbreaking and iconic, so if you can’t breathe life into it or elevate it, just don’t do it. For ex, think of Hamlet one of the most popular plays that people redo over and over gain, most recently in Bollywood as Haider. That’s the level of innovation you need for a reboot, which is missing here.

Secondly, good writing for ITV comes from experience/ creativity and you need to have a vision of where you want to take this show, what do you want to convey. It’s very obvious to me that this show is being written by teenagers or young adults whose idea of love is questionable at best. You can’t declare yourselves soulmates and then expect the audience to buy into that. You have to prove it, take them on a journey. But the writing breaks narrative so many times, the execution is so poor, the writers are always starting over in terms of plot and never actually conveying anything. They started the show over with Bajaj, ended that abruptly, then did the same with the memory loss/ Amna as Sona without really an end in sight. I mean, each track of a reboot show has a foregone conclusion: AnuPre are soulmates. It’s like predicability squared. What’s the point in that?

Let’s not even get to the poorly fleshed out characters. In any ITV, a good female lead is essential to its success. With a name like Prerna, you are already setting standards, but this woman is inspid uninspiring, has all the personality and brains of boiled spinach. I have always said this; from day 1 none of her actions have made any sense, and when she sets on a dubious path without conviction, and has the balls to preach about morals and ethics, she just sounds hypocritical. This Prerna doesn’t have any independence of thought or guts. She relied on Naveen to bail her family out, Anu saves her, relief on Bajaj to save Anu, the list goes on. To be fair here, what made the older Prerna gutsy in that era (pregnant out of wedlock) doesn’t have the same shock value today, but there wa still so much she could have been.. in terms of living up to her namesake. For Pete’s sake, she doesn’t even play hard to get! 😂😂😂

I may get called out, but I think Erica was miscast as Prerna, specially if the Prerna we are seeing now is the Prerna they want to show. What I see is Erica is quite the reserved, but sweet person, who can pull off Sonakshi or even Prerna that was married to Bajaj, but this inspid fool, even she can’t salvage.

Sonalika.. I have the same questions as you do. Why would she bother with the likes of Anurag? There is no bonding here, no scenes to show HOW and WHY anurag appeals to her, so the obsessive pyscho act isn’t convincing. If they were smart, they would have shown her as ‘reformed’ or something along those lines. This version of Komo doesn’t need to be OTT, she just need to be effective in her plot/scheme a la sherlyn from Kundali Bhagya.

The rest of the characters are just as boring and lifeless as this show. The more I watch, the more I’m Convinced, they shouldn’t have bothered with this reboot. It’s an redundant exercise unless of course you just look at it as a cash vehicle.