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Posted: 6 years ago
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Thank You for posting this.

Mr. Bajaj is an enigma, unbotherd and well informed. He knows that Nivi is Mrs. Basu and stresses the point by addressing her husband with his full name. He knows whereabouts of Anurag, waiting to see if he was hinting towards Anurag's presence in Switzerland.

I don't understand Prerna, this woman is heartbroken, she is suffocating in this marriage but she comes out of the plane completely dressed to walk on a ramp. Designer Sari, Perfect hair, perfect make up, fancy earrings, she wore a watch to go with her attire. What happened to directors using clothes and state of actors to show their emotional condition?

She is pregnant, doesn't she care about her child? What was she doing running, colliding with everything?

If I wasn't aware of director's lack of vision or actor's need to look good on screen, this whole setting represents Prerna as a vain selfish woman, who can't bring herself to care about her unborn child.


Nivi and her husband 🙄 First thing they discuss is her change of clothes, they were having fun, giggling, enjoying their time in Switzerland. They see Bajaj and she starts crying about Anurag. Nivi was anything but a Businesswoman in today's episode.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: MERARAI

It’s early days since the betrayal and emotions are raw and run high when they are devastated.

Men and women have diff emotional maps. This is a fact. Men say little and don’t delve into too much, women go way back long in history to dig up dirt if need be to express their feelings.

Another important factor.....Veena and Nivi are devastated by the betrayal. Being women and by personalities too they are more dramatic. Komo, Mohini Shivi are all portrayed as drama queens too.

While RB may act cool in public, let’s not forget that they are reacting having been on the receiving end of his ill intentioned plan to destroy Anu by marrying Pre.

He has shown not an ounce of sympathy let alone empathy for Sharmas for the devastation he’s caused them. What did Sharmas do to him that he targeted them to face this humiliation for his actions?

RB is the one who dished out the hurt to everyone including his wife it’s easy to crow and strut plenty when he is the one who hurt two families for revenge.

He’s too full of himself at the moment. No remorse for any fallout just arrogance in full display. Doubt if RB will be a cool cucumber if he was on the receiving end of what he dished out at AnuPre and their families.

He has been at the receiving end of Prerna's accusation & he has resorted to them in much more calm manner. Tomorrow will be one more example. Bajaj doesn't react because he doesn't want to give his weakness in heat of emotions but he observes very closely for vulnerability of others. One of the reasons why he doesn't react may be because he might think that others may be trying to do the same & he thinks that he can't allow his weaknesses to be revealed to those he doesn't trust. He doesn't trust anyone, not even Prerna at this point.

In this there is not a single woman who is subtle & feels real. All of them are always with raw emotions. Even Komo used to screech all the time. Even with raw emotions, people can be subtle especially in professional arena even with worst of their enemies & rivals. Nivi meets Bajaj for the first time in a public place & she screeches at him. No one, literally no one observes this man, except Anurag.

And it's not just men who are good at observations, women are mighty good at observing people & reading between the lines in a rival. That's why in ancient times, women would accompany their husbands, brothers & fathers with the sole intention of studying the other side silently even in worst of situations.

This season is missing subtlety that was present in previous season. Everyone is OTT melodramatic here contrary to how these characters were in season 1.

As for RB not showing sympathy for Sharmas, he hasn't married Sharma's daughter but Anurag's lover & Basus would be daughter-in-law. Technically both are same but in perception lies the huge difference. Prerna has acquired the identity of Anu's lover & Bajaj sees only thst since even Prerna has restricted herself to it. Prerna is the connect between her family & Bajaj & the connection itself hasn't spared a single thought to her family. While for Basus, Bajaj has everything on them from the past. That's the difference. Prerna hasn't been representing her family for a long time. She has been representing Basus & anurag since long & Bajaj sees the same.

Even in his file, Bajaj didn't have photographs of Sharmas but only basus & Prerna was in those photographs as Basu family member only.

It's fine to show people hurt, but atleast be subtle, so that it feels real, so that audience connects with it instead of laughing or cringing at it.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: najma123

Nivi could have done so much better. And something I didn't understand, no one in the Basu family even knew how Bajaj looked, he didn't appear before anyone except for AnuPre who barged into his house.

How did Pam and Nivi recognise him?

Logic in KZK ?😆

Anyway, I found one😎, they saw the marriage picture in mobile which ronit was showing to anurag, nivi even showed it to veena ....

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: mithilalovesksg

Person who only listen to mind and dont listen to heart why he will be sympathetic to anyone 😆

Actually people who think from mind can sympathize but not empathize. There is a huge difference between the two.

To sympathize means to understand that other person is in pain & Bajaj knows it, especially about Prerna since he has said that he knows she will always love Anurag & how he can never buy her love & he doesn't expect anything from her except loyalty (which is lind of twisted if looked in depth). He doesn't hate Prerna but he for sure is indifferent towards her. As for Basus, he is gloating in vengeance in destroying them, so it's obvious he wouldn't feel anything positive for them, since he hates them way too much.

To empathize means to actually feel what other side is going through. He doesn't do that. For that you have to be really emotional. Everyone in this show gives him a lecture on empathising & compassion.

To be compassionate means to know what other side is feeling & be willing to help them somehow to deal with this problem. He is certainly not compassionate.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: NoraSM

Thank You for posting this.

Mr. Bajaj is an enigma, unbotherd and well informed. He knows that Nivi is Mrs. Basu and stresses the point by addressing her husband with his full name. He knows whereabouts of Anurag, waiting to see if he was hinting towards Anurag's presence in Switzerland.

I don't understand Prerna, this woman is heartbroken, she is suffocating in this marriage but she comes out of the plane completely dressed to walk on a ramp. Designer Sari, Perfect hair, perfect make up, fancy earrings, she wore a watch to go with her attire. What happened to directors using clothes and state of actors to show their emotional condition?

She is pregnant, doesn't she care about her child? What was she doing running, colliding with everything?

If I wasn't aware of director's lack of vision or actor's need to look good on screen, this whole setting represents Prerna as a vain selfish woman, who can't bring herself to care about her unborn child.


Nivi and her husband 🙄 First thing they discuss is her change of clothes, they were having fun, giggling, enjoying their time in Switzerland. They see Bajaj and she starts crying about Anurag. Nivi was anything but a Businesswoman in today's episode.

My biggest question is this seasonal entry of Prerna's pregnancy. They will again forget about whole Prerna being pregnant thing. This woman definitely doesn't care about her unborn child. Makes me wonder if she had false pregnancy signal.

Next time this pregnancy will make an entry when Bua ji will come. That would be a track to announce her pregnancy in public & make Bajaj claim in fatherhood of the child in public of which Basus will also be a part to fuel a track on how deeply has Prerna betrayed Basus just when things would be turning fine for Prerna & that will be her new Kasauti.

Edited by arshi_asya - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshi_asya

He has been at the receiving end of Prerna's accusation & he has resorted to them in much more calm manner. Tomorrow will be one more example. Bajaj doesn't react because he doesn't want to give his weakness in heat of emotions but he observes very closely for vulnerability of others. One of the reasons why he doesn't react may be because he might think that others may be trying to do the same & he thinks that he can't allow his weaknesses to be revealed to those he doesn't trust. He doesn't trust anyone, not even Prerna at this point.

In this there is not a single woman who is subtle & feels real. All of them are always with raw emotions. Even Komo used to screech all the time. Even with raw emotions, people can be subtle especially in professional arena even with worst of their enemies & rivals. Nivi meets Bajaj for the first time in a public place & she screeches at him. No one, literally no one observes this man, except Anurag.

And it's not just men who are good at observations, women are mighty good at observing people & reading between the lines in a rival. That's why in ancient times, women would accompany their husbands, brothers & fathers with the sole intention of studying the other side silently even in worst of situations.

This season is missing subtlety that was present in previous season. Everyone is OTT melodramatic here contrary to how these characters were in season 1.

As for RB not showing sympathy for Sharmas, he hasn't married Sharma's daughter but Anurag's lover & Basus would be daughter-in-law. Technically both are same but in perception lies the huge difference. Prerna has acquired the identity of Anu's lover & Bajaj sees only thst since even Prerna has restricted herself to it. Prerna is the connect between her family & Bajaj & the connection itself hasn't spared a single thought to her family. While for Basus, Bajaj has everything on them from the past. That's the difference. Prerna hasn't been representing her family for a long time. She has been representing Basus & anurag since long & Bajaj sees the same.

Even in his file, Bajaj didn't have photographs of Sharmas but only basus & Prerna was in those photographs as Basu family member only.

It's fine to show people hurt, but atleast be subtle, so that it feels real, so that audience connects with it instead of laughing or cringing at it.

RB can’t defend his actions to Pre so staying quiet is his only option right now.

The crass statement about paying a price and women in the same sentence shows his arrogance knows no limits at the moment.

RB should know had he done his proper research that Pre had a family however much she identified with Basus, it’s not like she appeared out of thin air. Him not perceiving that Pre has a family too doesn’t excuse his having them face the faallout of his actions, IMO.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: MERARAI

RB can’t defend his actions to Pre so staying quiet is his only option right now.

The crass statement about paying a price and women in the same sentence shows his arrogance knows no limits at the moment.

RB should know had he done his proper research that Pre had a family however much she identified with Basus, it’s not like she appeared out of thin air. Him not perceiving that Pre has a family too doesn’t excuse his having them face the faallout of his actions, IMO.

Pre has a family. True.

But who made the decision of an absolutely private wedding? Prerna or Bajaj.

When Prerna herself doesn't think at all about her family, expecting Bajaj to do that would be like considering him a saint which he is definitely not. Forget Bajaj not perceiving her family, she herself took a conscious decision to not perceive them in this entire mess.

As for Bajaj's arrogance, that's how someone like him is expected to retort with sheer rudeness on certain accusations. He is no Anurag & I don't want him to be. We all react to some specific kind of accusations if not all.

Prerna has called him evil, inhumane, shrewd, & he listened but that is one accusation, he reacts to. It's just like how Prerna has been listening to all accusations but certain accusations from specific someone would not go well with her. She doesn't measure on when to say what to him & when to stop. I am tired of seeing Prerna embarassing herself again & again- first Komo & now Bajaj. I don't know why people expect Bajaj to be Anurag 2.0

This whole thing reminds me of Klaus & Caroline from TVD. They started on a really rough patch- hurling accusations & trying to kill each other but brought out the best in one another in a long run. Klaus made Caroline strong beyond she could imagine. Caroline taught Klaus to let his guards down at times.

That's the kind of character growth I am expecting, especially from Prerna. I want her to overcome this phase where she has made herself so weak to being confident, decisive woman. Obviously it's a lot to ask from the writers.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Actually I thought Nivi looked really cute, and bajaj just saw her as a cute little kid throwing tantrums, he didn’t care for Anurag’s fake swag either, I wonder why no one is embarrassed for him? he seemingly judged him more!😆

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Wonderfully summed up arshi! Bajaj and anurag were the saving grace ..and pre , whats up with her ? Why was she colliding with the glass and running around ? She was not caged ! Her crying really , its too boring . I liked anurag bec his depression is turning into anger ..n i loved to see him tearing off the pics and removing the ring as he was brutally betrayed . I believe if pre tells him the truth he still has the reason to get angry on her since she never trusted him enuf to tell thw truth , about her pregnancy and the deal. At that time they did make it look like pre didnt have an option . This is so similar to komo track . Everything is just a copy paste. So may be in the climax when he gets to know the truth , he may be unperturbed like prerna was..like who cares , its done now..

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I’m referring not to the private wedding but his lack of consideration that she at least contact her family before he took her to Switz. I guess even that too much to expect from him let alone sympathy or empathy for other innocent bystanders.

No matter how much CVs sugar coat and white wash him to justify him as a hero the way he went about separating Pre from Anu showed a mean-spirited man. Can’t sweep it under the rug that there is an arrogant self serving part of him that will always throw others under the bus for his selfish ends and it could raise its ugly head without warning. Once someone show that ugly side of their personality it’s best Pre and others be wary in the future So they don’t want prey to his manipulations.

Now that she’s his wife and shown little respect since with his crass comments, it’s about time Pre stand up to him and not be his doormat.

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