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Posted: 20 years ago
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Thanks for writing In but U have overlooked certain facts

Kiran wrote
Finally abt prem ,I can't understand why he always says "mera beta prem". Prem is not his son. Legally he is bajaj son becoz during prerana operation it was bajaj who signed the document as prerana husband. He never uses his brains chodo jo chiz ha hi nahin uske bare mein baat kya kara.

First of all in ur first Post U were not even clear which Prem does Anurag think about ? U haven't clarified. On the samadhi plank it is written Prem son of Anurag basu and Prerna ( It states very clearly who is the father)
Anurag communicates with Prem 1 in the last episode. What is the problem? Allow Anurag to grieve for a son who left him so early in life; here legalities do not come in. For all his faults he has a right to commune with the son he lost, for truly he was his father and mother for some time. A father is a father, blood ties are too strong, there are differences, anger hurt, rejection but love for ur own child encompasses everything.
A bout legalities u had to say
Prem is not his son. Legally he is Bajaj son becoz during prerna operation it was bajaj who signed the document as prerana husband. He never uses his brains chodo jo chiz ha hi nahin uske bare mein baat kya kara.
second post states : neither prem1 nor prem2 is anu son legally. I am talking of legally n not medically. Wen prem1 was born he was adopted by shekher(prerana brother) n it has never shown in kzk that anu has adopted him. ( the bold part is being replied in the last)
Kiran I beg to point facts
You brought the issue of legality
There is no mention of Prem one or two?????????? I will repeat, Bajaj was not on the scene when Prem 1( he came in the soap much later on the soap) was born, During Prerna's operation , he signed for Prem 2. You have not clarified this pt.
I repeat legal issues were brought up by U that is why I took the legal aspect, one does not adopt a child who is related to u by blood. In the first instance Prem 1 lived with Anurag later when Prerna too comes to the Basu fold, when she marries Anurag. So marriage is binding. Or Not?
Still I will like to point out that Legal issue is dead here. In fact in the entire soap, it is Apna Law that prevails. Anurag and Prerna are divorced, they make and break up, by law Sneha and Anurag can meet, he could take the help of law, to exert his rights as a father, the battle can be long drawn out, infact when Sneha was quite Young(once he gets to know of her paternity) he could have easily tried through the courts. . He does not, his guilt of rejecting her once is too much. He says I have to repent for it all my life. Even if Sneha comes close to him in the future, the realization will still be there.

UR SECoND POST STATES
Abt prem2 ,u talked that wen bajaj signed the document he was not related to prerana. -----------------------wen anu signed the document in the hospital during prem2 operation he was also not related to prerana n married to apo*na . accoding to law , legally he can never be prem2 father as such type of relationship is not accepted by law unless u adopt that child ----------------. com on anybody can go to the hospital n tell that he is prem father that does not mean he becomes his father.
I have to say this
Anurag will always be related to Prem 2 and Sneha by blood, he is not some one walking in the hospital and posing to be Prem 2's father without him prem 2 could never come to this world or even Sneha. He is Prem 2's father who stood by Prerna and did his duty the blood ties are much too strong . Prerna recognizes Anurag.
You said
that docter was never told that anu is sneha biological father. So they should not have allowed anu to sign the paper as father wen prerana,------------- was present.
During Sneah's operation Anurag signed the papers as a father for both the children, Prerna disappeared at the crucial moment and Bajaj was out of town. In the crucial moment Anurag did not lose his nerve he signed the papers for the Docs to go ahead. In your opinion Anurag should not have been allowed to sign--------------- . It means Anurag should have participated in the legal and illegal debate, let crucial time to pass off and lose his 2 children, eventually in the blame game there would have been another case against Anurag. It did not happen at all thanks to Anurag both the children are safe.
Even if u say legally or illegally ,
law recognizes the rights of illegal children, they will always have right in his property or what ever. Apo*na was already dead( disappeared cant be sure if Ekta will bring her bacK) so Apo*na was not there when Prem 2 was born and Anurag signed the papers, biologically he is his father. This child was brought in to this world by 2 consenting adults Prerna and Anurag to save their daughter Sneha. You have not responded to this.
U speak of legally and medically in one breath_______ can u explain. A/C to me Medically means
To be fit or unfit
You said :::
That's the fault of the hospital ----------------was bajaj n prerana who always takes sneha to the docter. N that docter knew that bajaj is sneha father. That docter was never told that anu is sneha biological father..
I have to say this:
After the leap the Doctor recognizes Sneha and commends her parents meaning Anurag Basu and Prerna Basu for taking an extraordinary decision of bringing Prem 2 in this world. How does he know? Sneha gets to know her real father's identity from the hospital.
Surely Anurag visited the hospital again and again. Besides him the entire family visits the hospital. To be a biological father is no crime. In fact it was this very thing that came handy when Sneha needed to be saved. The issue about Prem 2 has not been resolved, for sure, he is Anurag and Prerna's son. He must be 20, there is no compulsion on him to stay with Prerna and Bajaj or Anurag . But Ekta will bring in some twist here.
You said this :
legally he is bajaj son becoz during prerna operation it was bajaj who signed the document as prerana husband.
I repeat I have no problem with who signs, but u brought it, it is amply clear from ur statement who ever signs the paper( legally he is bajaj son becoz during prerna operation it was bajaj who signed the document as prerna husband.) becomes the father u brought the issue and I took ur statement further that u believe in signing documents about saying something about rships Prerna and Bajaj were not married at that time when Prem 2 was born , so how does Bajaj becomes Prerna's husband?.( Kiran said legally he is bajaj son becoz during prerna operation it was bajaj who signed the document as prerna husband ).
You said : So they should not have allowed anu to sign the paper as father wen prerana,the mother of the child was present. One thing more u mentioned that anu signed for both sneha n prem2. then it was clear by that time that sneha was bajaj daughter proof( All her certificate has father name as risababh bajaj n name sneha bajaj). --------------So sign of bajaj.
Yes I do know the importance of birth certificates but I also know that when Bajaj signed it was simply for medical reasons, Prerna was in a critical state, Doctors wanted an undertaking they do this when taking complicated cases, and not to prove about somebody's birth. Here too there is a flaw, Prerna's mother was present, she could have signed after all mother is the closest relative. But these things are overlooked. The birth certificate is given by a Municipal Corporation. What Bajaj signed in is a mystery? he was brought in by Anurag he does gets to know from the Doc that Bajaj chose Prerna over Prem in the event of operation getting complicated.
I keep repeating legalities are not for KZK PPL to see, they are superimposed, when dialogues fail or when they want to bring a twist.
You did not like Anurag communing with his son Prem 1, (neither prem1 nor prem2 is anu son legally. I am talking of legally n not medically.) Wen prem1 was born he was adopted by shekher(prerana brother) n it has never shown in kzk that anu has adopted him.)
Kiran U overlooked these facts
Prerna was single Anurag did not know Prem 1 was his child so she gives her son to Shekhar ( it was not shown legally, I am stressing the legal except earlier to and here too coz u have pointed them out ), it was a sister giving her son to the childless couple with ample doses of mushy dialogues.
Now what an irony Shekhar and his wife start neglecting Prem.
Prerna has disagreement with her brother and sister in law because the childless couple are about to have a child. There are no legalities here, hence forth Prerna starts looking after the child. Anurag gets to know about it later they are engaged , Bajaj comes does all that is possible to get Prerna and marries her.
Later we have a wailing Prem 1, Bajaj is not happy with the situation coz he wants Prerna to look after Cookie who is blind Prem would have been a distraction. So Prerna goes to Anurag handing Prem 1 with to him by saying now onwards u will be his mother and father. Anurag and Basu family look after the child. Later Anurag marries Prerna with Prem 1 participating in the wedding
The fact will always remain that Sneha Anurag, PRem1 and Prem 2 are all related by blood..
Anurag or any father does not require legal sanctity to sit before his son's samadhi, and contemplate on the days gone by or simply remember him, it is the ties that bind that bring him again and again for sure Prem 1 and Anurag shared a bond however short lived it was.
Kiran I would request U to read the posts of Shimmer and Shimmer1 and other Anurag fans. These are facts that have been pointed out before.

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Posted: 20 years ago
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👏 hey signora well written ..u r a good writer girl
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Posted: 20 years ago
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Hi Kiran, Hi Signora,

hehe let me join in the discussion too 😃

I agree with signora. Regadring the prem issue bajaj entered when perm 1 was already born ( rem prem 1 was born when anurag got married to komolika) Why cant a father say he is his son when he is the one who gave birth to him ??? weird weird and when it is clear that prem is anurags son no matter what legal thing he is still his son..can anyone change the fact that prem is anurgas son? no right?

and once more legal issue for sneha too..well everyone knows komolika plotted against prerana and anurag and gave the fake report where it was stated that bajaj is the father which made anurag belive its not his daughter..even prerana is to blame to some extent becoz when she was married to anurag she never truster him fully..and anurag getting married to apo*na was also all the plots and work of komolika mai ..dueto these anurag didnt accepted sneha.If he had know the real facts he would nt have done so...when sneha got operated u said why was he allowed to sign ? then what did u expected that anurag should not have signed and let sneha die?

No matter what happens what legal things are said but the reality is all prem 1 prem 2 and sneha are anurags children and a father has right to love and think about his childrens........so the matter of why anurag signed for them and all when he wasnt a legal father shouldnt be said...and most importantly as signora already said even prerana recognizes him as the father of the childs then why do other need to have problem??? and by the way till now anurag hasnt done anything illigal or wrong ....

well its just what i think no offence to anyone

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Posted: 20 years ago
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hey signora m wid you gurllllll..... u write reallllllllllly well!!!!..jus loved reading ur posts and the way u have proved ur point... go on gurll!!
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Posted: 20 years ago
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well written melvee and signora...i dont agree but still
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Posted: 20 years ago
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ghow com u ppl rite such long long posts .. pakta nahi hai kya ...mhuje to mera board ka english and hindi paper likhne ko bhi pak raha tha .. thts y itne mast marks aye hai in dono mein😆
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hi signora2

I appreciate ur post. I must say good homework

Ya, I admit I've not clarified abt Prem. But wait…. Do u think evn Anurag is clr of tht.

But I am speaking of prem2.

So,,,, u r talking of Samadhi Plank of prem1 ok tht 1 na which Mr. Bajaj made 4 prem.

Yes it was written "prem son of Anurag Basu and Prerna' and as u said he was his father but 4 sometime only and baki time who kya kar raha tha tht is history. Everybody knows wht duties he performed towards his children n n Anurag is allowed 2 grieve for not only his dead son but for every wrong he has done in his life.i also agree 2 wht u said "a father is a father….." but can u say so wen he does not perform his duties or points out his own child as illegitimate and disagrees 2 accept it .

Bajaj was not in scene wen Prem1 was born but Anurag was not in scene wen prerna was pregnant all the 3 times.

U pointed out legal issues r dead here and it is apna law tht prevails I also agree 2 tht but Anurag ka apnapan kahan gaya tha jab prerna was pregnant. He needed the DNA certificates to know tht sneha was apna. KYUN? TAB APNAPAN KAHAN GAYA THA.

Yes he can take the help of law to exert his rights but fact is tht he only knows 2 exert his right not 2 perform his duties. He had not performed his duties towards her in anyway except being biological father of Sneha and Prem2. "his guilt of rejecting her once is too much" and should be. Don't u think so? Rejecting one's child wen c is still in mother's womb is by far a very shameful act and he shld repent lifelong as by his act he not only rejected the child but didn't trust his wife.

Yes, Anurag will alwaz b related 2 Prem2 and Sneha by blood but remember only by blood and nothing else.

U wrote:

" he is prem2's father blood ties…………………….hospital"

I'm a bit confused wen u say he stood by Prerna I realy don't get wht u wnt 2 say wen u say stood by her and how he performed his duty

Do u mean " by signing" or by " by crying with Prerna". He performed his duty by bringing prem2 to world. THTS IT.

Hello give me a break ab yahan pe property men hissa kahan se aagaya. Dono ke paas paisa hai aur bajaj ke paas itna paisa hai ke usne 1000 crore to prem1,sneha or prem2 ke liya de chukka hai n 2 baar toh anu ko takeover kar chukka hai aur kitni baar ???????????????

Do u remember prerna ko apni beti Sneha ko bachane ke liye Anurag ke pair padne pade the aur tab jake Anuragji raji hue the apne patni Aparna ke kehne par.

U said :

" after the leap the doc recognizes sneha…………………………hospital"

can u recognize a small child if u c after 20 years. N wht Anurag visited hospital again and agan……………KAB? Wo toh India se bahar tha na. Ya bich bich men hospital ghumne ata tha. Uske aur uske parivar ko koi aur jagah nahin mili ghumne ke liye . ek baar to prerna se milna nahin hua(as per Rakhi)

HELLO … wen did u heard Bajaj sayng prerna shld leave wailing Prem1 or evr felt tht.

Kitni baar bol rahe ho blood relation, blood relation,blood relation

ARE! Biological father hoga to blood relation to hoga hi, meine kab mana kiya. Wohi ek rista to hai teeno bachon ke saath .

I agree blood relation r there between father n child but beyond tht which ties them is love n duty. anu has blood relation with his sneha but love n duties performed by bajaj.

Hope u like the post n enjoy reading it.

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Posted: 20 years ago
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First of all welcome to I-F kiran.

And now I want to say something to u that you r right we enjoyed your post bcoz it is full of repition and contain same point and I am tired of reading one two thing again and again that is "biological blood relation when anurag peform his duty when anurag perform his duty" ohooo give us a break how can anurag perform his duty when this lizard(ohoo sorry I am insulting lizard bcoz we can atleast kill lizard but this bajaj ufffff)didn,t let him to perform his duty(jab dekho prerna k saath chipka rehta hai(ab who doodh peeta bacha to nahin hai k us ko yeh pata na chale k kisi ki zaindagi ko kharab kaisey kerna hai sirf or sirf apni khushi k liye(agar 20 saal us ne prerna ya sneha ko apne paas rakh ker father ki duties perform ki hain to koi ehsaan nahin kiya us ne anurag per apne hi sawad k liye sara kuch kerta raha hai (per anurag ne pata nahin kitne ehsaan ker diye is leecher per(ziyada der ki baat nahin kerti aaj hi dekh lo kis tarah anurag per ilzaam laga diya k us ne sneha ko kaha k who jhoot bole mera dil ker raha tha sir phoor do is ka per kya faida hona to phir kuch nahin hai us ko😡)

Jab dekho tarah tarah k moon bana ker roota rehta hai who app loogon ko nazar nahin ata prerna ne ek baat kahi nahin k ansoo aa gaye abhi toh prerna us ko kuch kehti hi buhat kam hai agar thora sa dose or mila phir to ansoo ana hi band ho jaye gein or lense ka colour bhi kharab ho jaye ga😆.

Or jahan tak rejection of child ki baat hai toh bajaj bhi kisi se kam nahin hai madhvi ke saath to one night stand ker li or phir apne sawad k liye use jaane bhi diya(or ab agar prerna ko pata chalta hai to hamesha ki tarah ek dialogue "PRERNA MUJHE TUMHRE KHONE KA DAR LAGA REHTA HAI IS WAJAH SE MEIN NE TUMHE NAHIN BATAYA" OH MY GOD GIVE ME A BREAK what type of person he is 😡) koi pata nahin hai k us one night stand ka kya result ho sakta hai how childish he is naa?

Jahan tak anurag ki baat hai us ne apni saeri duties perform kerna chahi hain per mr. Bajaj hain na us ke hise ki bhi diuties perform kerne ke liye us ke hise ka pyaar lene ke liye even us ke bache lene ke liye(ek dafa jab rishte toot jata hai na toh who 2bara waisey nahin ho sakta bajaj ne prerna or anurag ko door ker k un k rishte mein jo girah lagii hai who to ab nahin jaa sakti na.

Or haan ek or baat jab tak anurag 20 saal un se door raha tab tak bajaj thek hain kisis ki khushiyon or baachoon k saath(how selfish he is) lekin jaisey hi anurag aya bajaj sahib ka shak shroo ho gaya janab rone lag gaye idhar prerna or anurag ko baat kerte dekha nahin udhar haath mein shraab or ankhon mein ansoo aa gaye(yeh nahin pata k jis insaan ne use sari khushiyan di hain us ne yeh 20 saal kaisey guzare hoon gein kabhi yeh nahin socha ke who kis tarah apne bachoo ke bagher rehta ho ga(khud toh zara si baat per prerna ko khone ka suna dete hoo us person ka kya jis ne sab kuch kho duiya phir bhi muskurata hai phir bhi prerna ki khushi mein khush ho jata hai apne app ko dard de ker prerna ko hansi deta hai

Anyways I can,t stand with BAJAJ.he is just unbearable for me(and if u people can,t agree with us we also can,t agree with your long long argument bcoz it is full of biasness)

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Posted: 20 years ago
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ab aisa na ho k yeh topic hi close ker diya jaye kyon k jab bhi hum kuch likhna chahte hain bajaj k bare mein toh topic close ho jata hai or anurag k bare mein pata nahin kya kya likha ja chuka hai is topic mein(that i can,t tolerate) anyways i am not complaining to mansi(mansi don,t get angry bcoz its my thought only)
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Posted: 20 years ago
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Oh my god

I was just wondering how the greatest fan of the cockroach family oops i mean the basus is not there in this discussion

And there we go maryam is on to bash up the lion king..oops i mean mr bajaj!!!

Well great writing from so many ppl and yea prachi i wonder how u all write such long posts!! Phew even i havent been able to write such stuff in my board exams!

But great analysis kiran, well written 👏

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