Reason behind Evil (Pia's POV)!!!!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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***Disclaimer*** This is not meant to insult anyone but it's just my point of view, and the way i see things. People who want to take it personally please don't read.

"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him." --------- Fyodor Dostoevsky

As Dostoevsky said, it's easier to denounce the evildoer than to understand him. No matter how evil the person is, there is always a reason behind. Whether we like it or not, evil doesn't prevail without a cause, and usually the cause is created by "good."

With that said, let's proceed to my point of this post. I am not saying that whatever Pia did was OK but all I am saying is that her stand is sorta understandable.

Yes Pia has done a LOT of mean things but why did she do them? Pia wasn't always like this. Even though it's hard for us to imagine she did love her sisters, she is one of the characters that ekta has destroyed completely. Pia always cared about her sisters, the only difference is while caring for them she cares about herself too, why is it so bad?

I don't know about ALL of you, but some of us want bani to think about herself, and at the same time care about her sisters, isn't that what pia is doing?(I mean she took it overboard yes, but more or less that's what she is doing)

Remember when MT gave us the news that bani might have to choose b/w Jai or Pia, we always wanted bani to chose Jai and at that time we didn't even know that pia would as much as drug jai into doing all this, yes we expected something bad from her but not this bad, yet we wanted Bani to chose Jai. And now that Pia has done that, chose Jai over her sister, why is it so bad?

More importantly pia knowing about Jai and Bani's relationship, at the time when pia was going through her "confused" state was when the divorce/alimony fiasco happened, what was she to think at that time? All she knew was bani wanted to go far far away from jai to never return, so what was she to do? Jai was going to be a single man soon, so what's so hard about liking or even caring for a man who is single? Her marriage was going to break for sure.

I mean who would want to live with a family where the bhabhi is always taunting you for everything, your husband won't do anything unless his mother tells him to. It wasn't only pia's fault that the marriage broke it was all their faults. Instead of being rude to her they could've handled everything maturely. Yes pia didn't know how to be a homemaker, but she could've learned if she was given a chance. Even before she stepped in pushkar's house seema bhabhi started taunting her, do you really think after those taunts she would just be quiet? Why expect pia to understand others and not to understand pia? Even pushkar never left a chance to insult her, is that what a husband is supposed to be, especially when the wife is going through so much(leaving her sisters, and more importantly living with the guilt that her di was facing the wrath of someone)? If pushkar could understand bani, why didn't he understand Pia? Why did he, whenever he got a chance just insult her? I agree he somewhat tried to give them a better life, but did he really? So her marriage was going to break eventually.

There is no explanation whatsoever for the ONS so I am not even going to bother, especially now that we know that she drugged him. But I still believe that she did it when she was sure that bani had left him.

The behavior post ONS, she genuinely tried to move away from JB. She even tried to resign from her job, to be stopped by the couple, she tried to maintain her distance but well bani(unintentionally of course) always somehow pushed pia towards Mr. Walia. The thing that hurt her the most, the dreams she had for herself her sister was living them, every human being(who is not Mahan) would feel jealous when that's the case. Living someone else live your dream, while the other doesn't even care about it, that hurts.

I'll give you my dad's example, he wanted to be a doctor, but he couldn't due to some circumstances, he had everything to be a doctor, and now he sees some people studying medicine but slacking off, and well not caring. He doesn't feel jealous, but it hurts to see when people are given a chance they don't use it. If my dad could, he would willingly take that students place who doesn't care about it. (I know not a very good example but hey that's the closest one I could find).

That's exactly what Pia must've felt, she wanted all those things but she couldn't get. She tried to forget about Jai(yes she did in the beginning), but well circumstances(ahem bani) didn't let her. She lost all her self control when she found out she was pregnant(which I still doubt, but nonetheless), I mean she took that as an opportunity to get her love. Her way might have been wrong, but the intention behind it, even though she was way off in thinking that bani would go with pushkar, but well that's what she thought. Bani could live happily with pushkar while she can have all she wanted(yes money).

Going with, we still don't know who's baby it is (even though I refuse to believe it's my baby's), but thinking from the show's perspective, why wouldn't she want her child to have his/her REAL father's name? Why wouldn't she want her child to live a life with luxury instead of a life filled with difficulties with pushkar? Especially when the real father loves kids, and his wife can't(for now, but Krishna is on his/her way) give him a baby?

I am not saying Pia is GOOD, I am just saying that there is a reason behind it. Bash all you want, but do understand her. You can still hate a person and understand them. Again it's easy to say evil is bad, but it's hard to understand why it's bad?

Whatever Pia did was definitely not the best thing, but she did what she had to. She needed to make a choice between her sister and the "father" of her child, and she chose the latter. We cannot expect everyone to be Mahan but we can definitely understand why people are not Mahan right?

I am in no way saying start loving pia, because well that's not possible, and I know it. But just try to understand her. She is twisted but why is she twisted? Is she solely responsible for everything, aren't there other reasons behind it too?

Every one makes mistakes, some make graver mistakes than others, but it is up to us to understand the reasoning and move beyond it, instead of holding on to them and hate others(I should follow my own saying sometimes don't you think so?).

Last but not the least, Pia is only what she is because of us. Just think about it, if we as viewers hadn't given pia that much importance she wouldn't be in this stage, and def. not make us go through this torture(for some it's JB's separation, for some its bani's condition, and for ME it's my baby's pain).

I am seriously going to shut up now, because well I have written too much. I doubt anyone would read this, but oh well had to get it out of my system.

Take care,

Shina

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Shina,

Only you can come up with a defense for Pia, after all that she has done.

Yes I too beleive, that no one is born evil, though some are, wont go into that at all.

Pia, was self centered, egoistic, selfish, from the beginning but she did care for her sisters alot too. You are so right in saying that the creatives/destructives have destroyed her character completely and beyond repair. I really hoped that htye would have handled it differently and never shown ONS at all and could have gone with something different. But what has been doen is done and it cant be changed.

Pia turned evil, or completely negative after she felt cheated by life in getting nothing that she wished for and wanted but a sister who never wanted or wished for what she did got evrything in lheaps but in her eyes did not appreciate it at all. It weas her way of seeing that situation. She never was good at reading between the lines at all, so can't blame her at all, as she was too self engrossed with her problems and her feelings.

Though you have to agree, she has from a grey character has completely turned black and there is no going back for her because it is she herself who chose to do so.

She had plenty opportunities in the way to rectify her mistakes, see the truth of her actions, the people that she would hurt, the consequences but she chose to ignore them as usual.

Thus her becoming uncaring, and selfish to the extreem, as she is blinded by what she beleives is hers and belongs only to her.

There is nothing wrong in thinking about oneself at all, but at what cost. Definitely not at the cost of falling down in ones own eyes, losing ones self respect, integrity, etc.

I dont think so. Self respect, integrity ae very important even when one thinks about oneself only. One can never be too detached in life and one never tries to hurt or backstab a person who has done so much for one in life, eg Bani. Bani was like a mother to her, providing her with everything that she could in her rights. If Bani was neglectful,selfish, uncaring, unloving \, etc Pias behaviour would be undersatndable as there was never sisterly, motherly love or respect between them ever. But it was not so.

She has stoooped well below all of it and lost more and gained nothing in return , but she still does not realize her misdeeds and actions have cost hee so much.

Thus most of us or all of us hate her now.

Did not mean to ramble, or offend, hope I havent. Just my views. 😃

Love
Krishna
Edited by kubare - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Shina,
Good post and woman it seems you are becoming Dal Badloo gradually first Bani's defense and now Pia's. 😆 😆

See Shina, there is a very beatiful saying that "good or bad is just point of view".We judge people as per our moral values , the values that makes this society work safely.

I hated Pia not since ONS but the beginning. My reasons are the same as everyone elses. I hate her for crossing her moral boundaries. Yes it is not wrong to think for your self, it is not wrong to be ambitious but acheiving your goal at the cost of other people's happiness and life is not justified. I hated Pia for running away on Jai and getting Bani into big trouble. May I ask what was there fault that they had to suffer and pay for her mistake. Jai did not pressurized her into marriage and Bani warned her. It is another case that they both finally fell in love but what if it had not happened. Bani forever would have been trapped with a man who was all set to avenge her for her sister's mistake.It was she who insisted on this marriage even when Bani asked her to step back. She gave her reasons that she wants a glamorous lifestyle for herself and her sisters that JW can provide but she still ran away . The list of her mistakes runs endless but the biggest point is that never repents for her mistakes and has to get what she want irrespective of how many lives are ruined in that process. Her biggest flaw is not that she is selfish, everyone is, but that she turns into a tornado and ruin everything else around.

As for her failed mnarriage she is solely responsible. Her SIL was not furious over her for not being a hom,e maker but that she was behaving like a GFN queen who was married into a rich family. She did not realoised that Pushkar was not ion his best financial state because of her but still he stuck with her. Her mother in law never taunted her. She was just expected to play a part in the family which she refused and she was not able to get ver the fact that Pushakar was from a middle calss family back ground and he was broke and without a roof on his head, after he eloped with her

I do not hate her for getting all over Jai when she was technically still his SIL and was married to Pushky but for that she took undue advantage of a broken and a shattered man to fulfill her dreams of a rich and lavish lifestyle which she mistook for her so called love and on top of that how could she even think about returning back to the same man who she once jilted at the altar and whose child her sister had conceived . She fails to read what other poeple tell her but she believes what she wants to. Biggest example-First she tells J that B does not love him but Pushky and later that he does not love B but her.
Will think and write more point later. Boss is hovering around. He already treats JW as his saouten because of his wife, as she is latto over him 😆 😆
Edited by mahimn - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Shina i do not agree with you at all.

It is really not wrong to love someone but why are we looking at jai's marital status, agreed that he signed the divorce papers but pia was very much married, so how come she forgot that she is still bound to her marraige vows. She was not divorced at the time of ONS.

If she really loved him then why the big dhoka to drug him. She could have waited for him to accept her back with his love for her. Why being so desperate. When jai was telling her that bani aborted my child, why did she not not tell the truth that bani met with an accident and deliberately hid the truth form jai.Also if you remember, she was so desperate to get jai walia that on that fateful ONS night she did not attend any calls of Bani and Pushkar.

She very well knew that ONS is wrong and was being a total bitch. 😡 😡 😡
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Posted: 18 years ago
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There is no excuse for Pia's action. She has like a Tsunami taken away happiness, peace , love from the people whom she claims she loves too much Viz. her di and Vollaya .Without even trying to know what they want exactly. For her own benefit she declared 1.Bani does not love Mr. Vollaya. 2. mr Vollaya loves only Pia and is unable to forget her. 3.Puishkar ia a loser and does not love her.
All this she repeats again and again to justify her actions.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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shina

I have only one thing to say whatever she did Good or Bad,whether she is evil or not finally its JW life that she has ruin earlier and weven now,and bith the times she did was for her own sake stating all she did was for her love,her selfish love.
I dont agree that she is or can ever she love someone she loves herself or maybe her sisters(the present scenario doesnt seem so) but all over for her love its JW who is paying.




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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: who am i???

shina

I have only one thing to say whatever she did Good or Bad,whether she is evil or not finally its JW life that she has ruin earlier and weven now,and bith the times she did was for her own sake stating all she did was for her love,her selfish love.
I dont agree that she is or can ever she love someone she loves herself or maybe her sisters(the present scenario doesnt seem so) but all over for her love its JW who is paying.



Archie, apart form Jai it is also Bani who had to pay everytime for her mistakes. Inspite of all that she did and the B**** she is, I was still amazed at her reaction when Jai brought Bani out of burning WM and that she was actually furious at him because he saved Bani's life and did not accompanied her outside. It was really disgusting that earlier she was not bothered of the hurt she caused but now she is not even bothered about her sisters life.She is as good as dead for her.
Edited by mahimn - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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i totally do not agree with this post!!!!!pia knew the consequinces(4 wat eva she did)no matter how she was feeling!!!!!we always stand 4 bani because she wud neva do wat pia did!!!!!!even when bani liked pushkar and he got married to pia.u didnt c her trying to break them up,another example is when pia aborted pushkars child...bani had the perfect chance to try and get pushkar!but she didnt!!!!i hate pia and i always will!and i will always stand for bani!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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You should defintely become a lawyer..! 😉😆 The way you've written that to defend Pia, actually made me think that Pia might not be just pure evil.. (Can't believe I just wrote that!😕) But anyways.. To some point you're right.. Every person has a reason behind their doings, and it's much more difficult to understand why they did it, then just proclaming that they did it cause they're evil or selfish or whatever.. 😕

I don't support Pia, and I don't think what she did was right, or even logical, cause it was to her own sister! And that makes it simply illogical to me! No sister could do that.. Even if Bani would want to divorce Jai, and go far away from him, Pia shouldn't have slept with her ex-jiju.. 🤢 That's just sick! 😡😡 And if she does love her Di as much as she says then, didn't she think about the fact that if she was to marry JW, then Bani and Pia would definitely stay in touch, and meet regurlary, and that would mean that Bani and JW would also meet.. 😕 That would also cause Bani pain.. Wouldn't it? I know that the last thing might now have been that logical, but if you think about it.. 😉

And if Rano could understand that her Di loved JW more then her whole life, then why was Pia blinded to the truth? 😕 Bani didn't tell Rano either, but she understood.. 👏👏 Is that cause Rano is more close to Bani? Or more sane then Pia? 😆😆

And she must have known that JW loved Bani right? 😳

The thing is that she must have noticed all this, but there's a difference in knowing something, and actually believing it! Pia just didn't want to believe the thruth, cause that would mean that she would get what she wanted, and that's impossile for the pea-brain! 🤢 Just like the incident with the butterfly.. She's just stuboorn and ziddi!

**Most of this text don't make any sense, as it's written in a hurry, and therefore I wrote the first thing that came to my mind without thinking it completely through.. **

Deep

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Shina i am one person who can get what you saying and i said that as well that she was not that bad at the start ...but what did it for me was that her OWN sister that she put on to the brink of coma ..she obviously does not understand her..rano knew that it would destroy her and tried to keep it hidden...not just that she comes and tries to turn around and blame bani biggest joke of all is her giving a speech on motherhood!

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