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kubare thumbnail
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Lovely analysis of Pia character by the way. Most of us here do understand where Pia is coming from and her actions etc, and yes true she is less evil then Jigs, but after going through so much in life (I mean Pia) shouldn't she have learnt something from it. She sometimes acts just plain dumb.

Couldn't she open her mouth and defend her sis in front of Jai by telling about her operation or later after Bani was humiliated enough. She thinks more for Jais feeling these days then her sis who she has lived with all her life!!! She underdstands Jais pain for his unborn child??What about Pushkars pain?!!!Is happy more for Jai that Bani has started taking care of her child and joined lamaz classes then for Bani.

If she is soo good in understanding Jais feeling then why not her sisters Bani!!!?

Am not Pia bashing her or maybe I am but the creatives are not making sense of her character other then that she misses being Mrs. Jai Walia.

Thats my take on it. No offence as loved your post. 😃

Cheers,
Krishna

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: kubare

Lovely analysis of Pia character by the way. Most of us here do understand where Pia is coming from and her actions etc, and yes true she is less evil then Jigs, but after going through so much in life (I mean Pia) shouldn't she have learnt something from it. She sometimes acts just plain dumb.

Couldn't she open her mouth and defend her sis in front of Jai by telling about her operation or later after Bani was humiliated enough. She thinks more for Jais feeling these days then her sis who she has lived with all her life!!! She underdstands Jais pain for his unborn child??What about Pushkars pain?!!!Is happy more for Jai that Bani has started taking care of her child and joined lamaz classes then for Bani.

If she is soo good in understanding Jais feeling then why not her sisters Bani!!!?

Am not Pia bashing her or maybe I am but the creatives are not making sense of her character other then that she misses being Mrs. Jai Walia.

Thats my take on it. No offence as loved your post. - None taken my dear friend

Cheers,
Krishna

Krishna, thanks again for the kind words. I see your point and heres my take :

As I mentioned in my post , for Pia , it seems that time has indeed ceased at a point where she had left Jai Walia at the alter all alone with a brusied ego and wounded pride. She now at this point , after realizing what Jai has done for her when in distress is only able to see what she had done to him and how she could correct that. She is a self centred woman , although she cares about her sister, she is under the impression that Bani and Jai dont love each other and more so about Bani. She is seeing only Jai , as being a victim of her own actions in the past and that he is now still treating her sister with such concern. The thought of him being in love does not cross her mind, coz she being stuck at a time in the past still believes that jai loves her Pia (and that too because Jai had once confessed to her). Pia is not a person who can understand feelings that go unsaid. It has to be explicitly told to her. This , her weakness , is the only reason she fails to understand her Bani di's feelings now. She is only aware that bani was being tortured initially because she was told explicitly so. Same goes with Pushkar's agony, although he has expressed his hurt, the equation is different here. They were at loggerheads and she did not want to even attempt to see his point or agony or pain.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Very well written Sareeta, you made it clear why Pia is acting in a certain way at a certain point of time. 👏

We know that she's a selfcentred woman who thinks that the world revolves around her, and she's unable to relate with peoples feelings. These are her biggest flaws if you ask me...

That's why she did not tell Jai that Bani pawned their mom's bangles for her operation. And as mentioned before,she could've also refused to be part of a husband-wife matter... 😡

But yes, that's Pia for us! But on the other hand I must admit that she would've tried her very best to unite Bani and Jai, if only she know how much they love each other....
But nor Bani nor Jai has ever bothered to tell her this, inspite of having lots of opportunities to do so! 😕
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Atlast, I found some qualities in Pia!
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Posted: 19 years ago
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i do agree with your analysis of Pia and as much as she annoys me i cannot hate her like i hate Jigyaasa because as you say she is not an intentionally evil person.

i think what annoys people about her is she only ever sees what SHE wants to see. her interpretation of a situation is only that which suits her own ideas and gains.

no-one can deny that she loves her sisters very very much but sometimes it seems her love is also... conditional?

after pia had her abortion etc she told bani that she was with her every step of the way and would help her to "free herself" from this marriage. yet now that both of them are back in walia mansion all she ever seems to do is follow Jai around like a lovesick puppy - she is rarely with her sister! In fact when bani was throwing up Jai was the one who found her and Rano and told them to help her.

rano is married, her husband and family are in walia mansion so her actions and responsibilities are somewhat more than pia's. but what was pia doing at the time? she doesn't seem to ever be there for her sister!

why is it that bani feels she can confide in Pushkar and NOT Pia - ok this is a creative decision on part of the writers but it also fits Pia's character - Bani is hardly going to believe she is reliable and trustworthy after everything she has done!

and i really think she is a hyprocrite too:

1) she almost accuses jai of raping her sister and then calls him the best and most caring husband and father ever

2) when she first came to walia house after the kissology scene there is a scene in jai and bani's room where she says soemthing about them being happy in their marriage... or loving each other - i can't quite remember sorry - and now she sees this as a forced relationship in which both jai and bani are miserable

3) she says to roshni at one point that jai and bani's marriage has nothing to fear from her - to say that she must believe that there is a REAL MARRIAGE between them - yet now she has decided that they shouldn't even be together at all!

4) when pushkar gets his new car she says she truly does want the best for him and she hopes he succeeds - didn't she believe this when constantly calling him a loser - or is it that she will support him as long as she is detached from the situation, as long as his failures don't affect her?


Wait a minute, this post started off agreeing with you sareeta - reading back, it doesn't really doesn't does it? 😕 😆
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hey Cordelia,

Thank you for the lovely comments. I truly appreciate the fact that you've read the post and given your comments. As for the questions posed, well here's my take on them.. comments inline..

Originally posted by: Cordelia

i do agree with your analysis of Pia and as much as she annoys me i cannot hate her like i hate Jigyaasa because as you say she is not an intentionally evil person.

i think what annoys people about her is she only ever sees what SHE wants to see. her interpretation of a situation is only that which suits her own ideas and gains. - Yep Agree

no-one can deny that she loves her sisters very very much but sometimes it seems her love is also... conditional? - I do not see her love being conditional , coz she never stopped from thinking about rano, even though rano has apparently blasted her off on her behavior several times. Her sisters affections are her strength, I believe. she never held any ill feeling even though Bani and Rano on a couple of occasions have point blank told her that her perceptions were wrong.

after pia had her abortion etc she told bani that she was with her every step of the way and would help her to "free herself" from this marriage. yet now that both of them are back in walia mansion all she ever seems to do is follow Jai around like a lovesick puppy - she is rarely with her sister! In fact when bani was throwing up Jai was the one who found her and Rano and told them to help her. - I see it this way, When Pia came over to the walia mansion after her tiff with Pushky puppy, the situation was that Bani had moved out and the reason was not apparent. She at that point in time was looking it from her sister's side(not that she can see and perceive things any better, it is her weakness) and could only conclude that her sister is very unhappy and that her sister is getting freedom. She actually like anyother doting sister, wants to standby with her sister , coz she believes her sister is right. She blindly believes that Bani di is correct and cannot be wrong.

As for her following Jai, I see it this way that in the Walia mansion , after her return, only Jai is the man who knew the story and has not misjudged her. She on seeing this , only realized that how wrong she was and like a little kid who looks up to someone who is nice to them is struck by this man's magnanimity.

rano is married, her husband and family are in walia mansion so her actions and responsibilities are somewhat more than pia's. but what was pia doing at the time? she doesn't seem to ever be there for her sister! -

She has told her sister that she is with her and that according to her is being with her sister and you bet it is. She is not proactive . Had her sister confided in her , she would have acted definetely. She is not even aware of the fact that Bani and Jai like eachother, unlike Rano who has been a witness to all that.

why is it that bani feels she can confide in Pushkar and NOT Pia - ok this is a creative decision on part of the writers but it also fits Pia's character - Bani is hardly going to believe she is reliable and trustworthy after everything she has done! - Yep, agree with this one completely.

and i really think she is a hyprocrite too:

I for one , believe that hypocrisy is about being something , and appearing and saying something else. I dont see Pia as being a hypocrite, infact I see her as being the most candid characters around. She says what she feels , no mincing words and that is something.

1) she almost accuses jai of raping her sister and then calls him the best and most caring husband and father ever - She says this because she is not aware that her sister loves her husband.

2) when she first came to walia house after the kissology scene there is a scene in jai and bani's room where she says soemthing about them being happy in their marriage... or loving each other - i can't quite remember sorry - and now she sees this as a forced relationship in which both jai and bani are miserable - No , at point in time does she say that she thinks they love eachother. She thinks that they are concerned about each other but are stuck in a marriage that has no love

3) she says to roshni at one point that jai and bani's marriage has nothing to fear from her - to say that she must believe that there is a REAL MARRIAGE between them - yet now she has decided that they shouldn't even be together at all! - I would like to think, that she did not want Roshni to interfere with her Bani di's life and she jus retorted back to Roshni's nastiness and hurt her where it hurts her the most , Roshni's ex flame.

As for her deciding that they shudnt be together, the poor babe dosent know that her bani di and her ex love are truly madly deeply in love. If only she knew... hmmmmmmm

4) when pushkar gets his new car she says she truly does want the best for him and she hopes he succeeds - didn't she believe this when constantly calling him a loser - or is it that she will support him as long as she is detached from the situation, as long as his failures don't affect her?

I see it as her regret at being so nasty to Pushkar , when he is so capable. Although she does think of going back, she is jus trying to soothe things between them.Their relation was always on rocks, what with their heated arguments and it is only natural, one picksthe nastiest things to say to get the other to shut up.


Wait a minute, this post started off agreeing with you sareeta - reading back, it doesn't really doesn't does it? 😕 😆

Aww cmon, I enjoyed your comments and loved replying to them too

Edited by sareeta - 19 years ago
Cordelia thumbnail
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Posted: 19 years ago
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me too hun, and what better to debate about than our beloved KS!! 😉
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hi Sareeta,

Firstly I love ur posts...Have to confess havnt been able to read all of them coz of time constraints..but whatever I have read...they are magnificent 👏 ...U seriously have a knack for some incredible analysis...!!!

About Pia...God...Its a wonder u managed to write so much on her... 😆...Seriously, I do agree with u to a certain extent.... The basic problem however is that her character is just not well-etched out enuf...Pia and to an extent Pushkar have I thnk been the biggest sacrifices at the altar of twists and turns in ths serial...They have always been moulded as per the demands of the story...So its rare to ever have any background being built to any of their major actions...U know for instance when she lands up at Jai's house and blasts him over the pregnancy issue...And the very next week she's congratulating him for being a fair man...!!!...There's just no reasoning involved...even if she's supposed to be an impulsive, volatile soul..still...she's supposed to be sane rite??? 😕

Pushkar is much the same...I would have nvr understood why he chose to elope with Pia in the first place after all the bonding he shared with Jai if I didnt realise that it was necessary for J-B to get married...Similarly Pushkar-Jai relationship since then has been very poorly defined...It is in such a contrast to the way it was introduced initially...Pushy makes in an appearance when convenient...then exits the stage!!!

Anyway coming back to Pia, well, U are rite..she's not negative as yet..Her plus point is her love her for her sisters...But then, knowing the inconsistency of her track,its almost certain that she will do an about turn there as well...So I suppose she will just continue to defy all logic in the days to come... 😕

Anyhow...Great attempt Sareeta...And a great piece of writing...keep them coming... 😳
love
Rupy

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hey Rupy,

Thank you so much for those kind words! Am glad you appreciate the different stance I have taken on Pia's character.

What other different shades of Pia will be reveales, we've gotta wait and watch and may be another analysis?? what say ?😆

Best,

Sareeta

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Posted: 19 years ago
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greats words and anaysis 👏 👏 👏

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