Part 4--::Ram Kapoor’s Fan’s---Foursome:: - Page 8

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Guys... so I finished watching upto right after the end of Tarun and Jai's conversation...!

Rocking epi so far!! You guys.. RK was brilliant!!

So, to start with a post first...MT... I will take the part I liked the most from your post ... that he dosen't understand that what he felt for Pia was a crush, and what he feels for Bani is more. Ok.. fine... as long as preface that we, as the audience know its more... and it is.. thats fine. I'll leave it saying that Jai is a pee-brain as you say.. and hasn't figured it out! DUMBO!?

Yes, Bani did discover love first. Rather she accepted it first. Jai.. he's still learning? I just will not accept that its some sainted love!

I watched the portion of their conversation, and I thought the scene was amazing! RK's delivery was Rocking! The body language, self-depracting smirk.. all of it...I got from it, that the character accepts Bani in his life..& has some how compartmentalized her presence in his life (Bubble I think said this earlier). Its easier for him to accept his feelings that way. He dosen't have to challenge anything else. Not that the way he felt about Pia was a crush, or that this is more encompassing.. or as you say MT, that maybe earlier, he disdained having to marry Bani...or the atraction he later felt for someone who was never to have been his to begin with.

I do think that deep down he does love her, deeply, and unequivocally. Why does the man have so many shades of grey!? Its quite irritating in such instances! And yet, we do get to see the layers peeled back.

My response is neither here nor there is it!?
I have to say though,.. that whomsoever came up with the scene, was bloody genius. It was so well done, to see THE JW.. sozzled, cofessing the secrets of his heart, and his twisted mind to his friend. And his friend just nods, thinking... you stupid oaf!

We know that Bani loves Jai... does she love him more...? Post the C scene MT, you asked a bunch of questions that had one asking if Bani loved Jai more.. and if their love would reveal an equal partnership. What you say suggest no...? IF she loves him more...
I think that it would. He has yet to understand that she loves him as a man.. and that her love for him is as strong because of that... as his is for her.. based on his faith in her (his version of love!) don't know if that makes sense (crap its late!).

If a miscarraige is a possibility, then this question does come into play no? Would he love her still? And if so, did he love her at all, enough to want her as a woman... as the woman he now chooses as his wife?!

I say yes.. course.. we shall have to see....

Soap

BTW, I have to say again.. I LOVED, LOVED, LOVED RK in this scene! HE WAS AMAZING!!!

Soap
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Also,

I think when he laughed at what Tarun said.. it was a scoff...in that instant... i think JW's character thought... are you mad yaar.. no way. But (and since I LOVE READING BETWEEN LINES.. which are often times not even there... 😆 )...I say it was a defense mechanism. Were JW to replay that moment... I think he'd pause and wonder... maybe I do love her so! Why else would I feel this way...!?

Which begs the question... why can't we have antaratma scenes for JW? Why only inner monologues now for Bani!?

See.. even Jai's too schizo for himself!

Soap
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Posted: 19 years ago
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For a 40 yr old, it does seem weird that he cannot compartmentalize the emotions he has for B. It appears that B has affected so many facets of his life & personality that he doesn't know how to sum up his feelings. With every expression of admission of his "reverence" to Masi,Aditya,Tarun, he reveals why she is all important to him. And physical attraction certainly does exist (several instances as well as c-nite flashbacks), but they have gone much beyond and mentioning it as a focal pt of their rel would seem. trite (Though personally I would like to see more than a subtle ref to the same after all and P is not constantly thrown at our face to bring home the contrast in feelings). And I do think that if by Ekta grace the baby does not see the light of the day, J will be heartbroken but his feelings for B will not diminish.
Have been reading views & counterviews....Came out of my passive mode ……just wanted to add my bit //CAT
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: catcat

For a 40 yr old, it does seem weird that he cannot compartmentalize the emotions he has for B. It appears that B has affected so many facets of his life & personality that he doesn't know how to sum up his feelings. With every expression of admission of his "reverence" to Masi,Aditya,Tarun, he reveals why she is all important to him. And physical attraction certainly does exist (several instances as well as c-nite flashbacks), but they have gone much beyond and mentioning it as a focal pt of their rel would seem. trite (Though personally I would like to see more than a subtle ref to the same after all and P is not constantly thrown at our face to bring home the contrast in feelings). And I do think that if by Ekta grace the baby does not see the light of the day, J will be heartbroken but his feelings for B will not diminish.
Have been reading views & counterviews....Came out of my passive mode ……just wanted to add my bit //CAT

Hiya Cat! Nice to hear/read your thoughts! As pinks says.. brain cells, I prolly shouldn't be using to begin with, to understand Kekta's madness... are dead, from analyzing the workings of JW's mind and heart! Its a lost cause i think!? Way too confusing -- why do we still persevere!?

Soap

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hey Guys especially the Awesome Foursome - RK has just put up this post where he has mentioned you all. Check it out and CONGRATULATIONS. i have copied and pasted it below:

Hey You people just continue to floor me....sooooo much love, soooooo many compliments, sooooooo many good wishes for my family i mean WOW!!!!! Thank you sooo very much.

I have to apollogise to some of you who have pm'd me so many times and are accusing me of not replying, please understand that i just cant reply to all of you personally cause its just tooo big a task infact i'm barely managing to read all of the messages let alone reply but i do try and read all even if it takes a while.

I must admit that you guys have me hooked to I-F infact i wish i had more time so i could interact with all of you more. You guys write very very intelligently and its a pleasure to read your posts, your reviews are extremely good and very detailed and some of the fanfics are hillarious. Infact i'm so addicted that my laptop is always on in my make up van and connected to I-F these days and i keep reading in between my shots and when i'm working a lot of the others use my machine to read up as well. i've told them to register but weather they do or dont is yet to be seen.

Now i have to take a minute and make a special mention about the "awesome foursome" i dont have the words to express what i feel when i see the amount of time you guys have spent discussing me. I had the recent pleasure of meeting 'armaandeewani' and i must say it was an amazing experience. She gifted me a file that she had compiled about the posts on me and there discussions and both my wife and i were floored when we read it infact gautami had tears in her eyes while reading some of the stuff. Thank you sooooo very much guys.

Ok i guess thats all for now, so till we meet again take care of yourselves, and for all of you girls that are smiling while your reading this i have to say that you guys make me smile too when i read your posts.

LOTS AND LOTS OF LOVE,

RAM

p.s. the person who's registered as gautamikapoor is indeed her and she's new to this so be kind😉

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Darling Mou.. that you can review a review, is amazing in of itself. that I can post a review.. is also amazing no!? 😆 J/K... Have to say though.. most rockin epi in recent weeks! Rk looked Fab, and black does him good!

Praise be the creatives! Sandeep.. muth Ja yaar! Zee ko muth Chod!!

Anyhoo... I hope sense prevails.. babies lie safe and sound.. and Jigs and Sapola do not win at whatever they plan to hatch on Monday. Perhaps Wallflower Raashi can help? Doubtful.. we shall wait and see...

Soap

BTW.. Only complaint of epi.. CAN THEY PLEASE LOSE THE SMOKE MACHINES??

Edited by soapaddict - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
#77
Chalo, Mou.. exiting stage left dear.

Soapaddict!

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Guys...I really wonder who Jai is trying to deceive, Tarun, Bani, or himself?
He feels much more for Bani than he used to for Pia. But still he doesn't admit it that he loves Bani? Does he still have a place for Pia in his heart, or what is it that is going in his mind about Bani?

Cheers,

Anjali
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapaddict

Also,

I think when he laughed at what Tarun said.. it was a scoff...in that instant... i think JW's character thought... are you mad yaar.. no way. But (and since I LOVE READING BETWEEN LINES.. which are often times not even there... 😆 )...I say it was a defense mechanism. Were JW to replay that moment... I think he'd pause and wonder... maybe I do love her so! Why else would I feel this way...!?

Which begs the question... why can't we have antaratma scenes for JW? Why only inner monologues now for Bani!?

See.. even Jai's too schizo for himself!

Soap

Soap, it was partly a defence mechanism, partly the fact that he was sozzled up completely and partly the fact that he was genuinly amused with the idea that Tarun thinks he has gone crazy for Bani......Jai was actually taken aback at the idea! Somewhere in his mind he knows that he is nuts about her, but at the same time, he also knows that he doesn't feel for Bani, what he felt for Pia and since as I said before, Jai marks Pea-brain Pia as his standard of Love, he just cannot make himself believe that, yes, he indeed loves Bani, more than he has loved anyone, more than he can love anyone and Love, in the way she loves him, wholly and not the Saint Bani Love that has been portrayed yesterday!

Someone mentioned that since Jai is 40 year old wordly wise man, we can't expect him to say "I love you" to Bani! Why I ask? Didn't he say these words to Pia? If you remember the earlier episodes, he not only said the three magical words to Pia, but actually wooed her in the way any normal man would woo his love....Flowers, Gifts ect ect! Ok, I am not saying that only by doing this does one prove his or her love, but just stating that Jai's age has nothing to do with his feelings for Bani!

When Jai totally realizes that he loves Bani, I am sure, he won't hesitate to shout the same out from the Rooftops giving a damn to the World! JW might be a man of few words but he is also a man who never minces his words when time comes to that!

My two cents....

MT

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapaddict

Chalo, Mou.. exiting stage left dear.

Soapaddict!

night soap...btw post 3 sangria you were very lucid....good job. very jealous that i had to settle for merlot...love sangria - probably fav drink after cosmos...ok need to make is ks related...well happy jw dreams

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