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Posted: 19 years ago
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In which category do you portray yourself? Selfish motives sometimes or always sacrificing?

i can say both,as i can be selfish for those who are near to me......

When was the last time you were ever selfish to someone?

actually i dont really remember when was my last tyme i was selfish as a human being im not being selfish knowingly.

In Kasamh Se, what character from your point of view is not selfish?

dadi,massi,and aditya....tony also.

What is one thing that makes us different from others? (I'll tell you my opinion; it's definitely our principles from my point of view)

yes khoo.....you are right......agree with you.

If you're loved one was to commit a mistake, and you forgive him/her for that, would it be called being egotistical or protection?

protection for sure.......

What is the word "self-centered" from your point of view means?

me,me,me......only me.

What makes us perfect or are we not perfect?

here,its simple....Nobody is a perfect...what we all actualy tying is to be perfect though no body is perfect on this earth.

What message does Kasamh Se sends?

love....to love unconditionally.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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In which category do you portray yourself? Selfish motives sometimes or always sacrificing?
My personality rating high on the feeling scale, I usually tend to sacrifice to make others smile, but hey wait on a second that doesn't mean I am all sacrificing, I have selfish motives too. I believe that doing something good establishes good karma, and your life will have a better meaning to it. Sacrifice for me is not giving up relationships for others, like K serial women tend to do for their sisters or friends, because that would mean ruining not only your own happiness but others as well, as forced relationships never work out. Forced relationships become bitter and end up being sharp thorns in our lives. Sacrifice to me is making someone smile without having to have forced it or loose something. I would probably say I fit in between both categories, somewhere in the middle.


When was the last time you were ever selfish to someone?
To say I was never selfish to someone would be an intelligent lie, unconsciously or consciously I know like most people I must have been selfish to someone. For example, I was given more hours to work this week than my coworker, because I persuaded my boss to let me. I guess that is selfish in one way, my coworker may have wanted to work the hours I was given as well.


In Kasamh Se, what character from your point of view is not selfish?
To me there are three people who are unselfish: Aditya. Aditya is always there to help people, we never really get to see what he wants, he usually wanting the best for everyone. He supports a heart broken Jai, consoles a shattered Bani, comforts and cajoles his mother, agreed to Saahil- Rano's marriage because they were in love and still treats Pia - Pushkar well. He stands to be one of the most unselfish people in Kasamh Se without sacrificing anything; he manages to help people when they need him. I could also see him standing by Jigyasa whenever she needs him. There was a scene that depicted that recently.


What is one thing that makes us different from others? (I'll tell you my opinion; it's definitely our principles from my point of view)
When looking at differences, there are a lot of things that make us different from others, but what really draws the line are what values and morals you hold, how you perceive life as, and how you live it. Morals and values define our personality and spirituality, and how we perceive life and live it define our personality. People differ in their personalities, for example: calm and gentle Bani, hot tempered and impulsive Jai, fun loving and spiritual dadi, cunning and selfish Ranveer etc


If you're loved one was to commit a mistake, and you forgive him/her for that, would it be called being egotistical or protection?
It depends on what type of mistake it is first and foremost. It will be considered egoistical if someone else was hurt by this mistake, but if you forgive your loved one for a mistake that didn't harm anyone else's life, I would consider it protection. For example: Jai forgiving Pushkar, Pushkar hurt Jai by eloping with Pia and betraying his trust and Jai did hurt Pushkar as well by taking away his home, kidnapping them etc. By no means can we measure this, but it sets a balance, now the only way they both can live happier is by forgiving one another, so that they can protect their relationships well. Pia being Bani's sister is related to Pushkar, and Jai being Bani's husband is related to Jai as well.


What is the word "self-centered" from your point of view means?
Self Centered to me means a person who degrades someone else to higher themselves. A self centered person does not necessarily need to be selfish because selfishness differs in two ways ; Being selfish to protect someone close to you or being selfish to satisfy your own needs regardless of what another feels. Self Centered to me means thinking in a closed box, not thinking out of the cubicle, thinking from one perspective always and not attempting to see another person's perspective.
What makes us perfect or are we not perfect? No one is perfect. Perfection is sought by everyone, but if the fruit of perfection reached everyone, this world would have been perfect as well. I think seeking perfection enables people to work harder, to achieve more, it's basically a drive to motivate people to work better and harder.


What message does Kasamh Se sends?
Kasamh Se sends messages of love, anger, sisterhood, sacrifices, intelligence and motherhood.


Messages of Love – Rano – Saahil got married because they loved each other. Anu – Rohit got married because they loved each other.

Messages of Anger – Jai's undeniable anger tantrums – when Pia left him heart broken justifiable yet it was a form of anger. Jigyasa's ever growing need to get angry at every minuscule thing in Bani-Pia-Rano's lives and how Jai cares for them..

Messages of Sisterhood – Bani-Pia-Rano standing by one another when needed support. When Pia ran away leaving Jai heartbroken, even having some anger for Pia, Bani stood by her to protect her sister, Rano srood by Bani through her tough tides with Jai, and then both Pia and Rano stood by her when her love tides tangled with sorrow and anger. They all care for each other and it is reflected very well.

Messages of Sacrifices – Bani marrying Jai to save Pia's honor – yea it was a glory moment for us Bani-Jai fans, but it was a mighty sacrifice. I know of none other who has sacrificed anything so far. Maybe Sonali? But it wasn't really a sacrifice Jai didn't love her, so she had to step out, though I do feel sorry for her.

Messages of Intelligence – Ranveer and Jigyasa always finding ways to manipulate situations to get Bani and her sisters into trouble. Roshni very cunningly set up a road that led to Bani finding out the truth about the Park Road incident.

Messages of Motherhood – Bani's anger towards Jai because he accidentally killed her mother yet still loving him. She was motherless because of the man she loves (or so we are shown as) Bani being a mother figure for her two younger sisters and caring for them like a mother. Jigyasa swinging between being a mother and a mother who doesn't care about her children. The Anu-pregnancy scene still creates doubts in my mind whether she cares for other children as well, or just Ranveer? When Anu's pregnancy was revealed she was more angry about Bani saving her daughter's honor than about the actual severity of the issue and about her daughter's future life.

Keep smiling...

Love

Soni

Edited by soni595 - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: soni595

In which category do you portray yourself? Selfish motives sometimes or always sacrificing?
My personality rating high on the feeling scale, I usually tend to sacrifice to make others smile, but hey wait on a second that doesn't mean I am all sacrificing, I have selfish motives too. I believe that doing something good establishes good karma, and your life will have a better meaning to it. Sacrifice for me is not giving up relationships for others, like K serial women tend to do for their sisters or friends, because that would mean ruining not only your own happiness but others as well, as forced relationships never work out. Forced relationships become bitter and end up being sharp thorns in our lives. Sacrifice to me is making someone smile without having to have forced it or loose something. I would probably say I fit in between both categories, somewhere in the middle.


When was the last time you were ever selfish to someone?
To say I was never selfish to someone would be an intelligent lie, unconsciously or consciously I know like most people I must have been selfish to someone. For example, I was given more hours to work this week than my coworker, because I persuaded my boss to let me. I guess that is selfish in one way, my coworker may have wanted to work the hours I was given as well.


In Kasamh Se, what character from your point of view is not selfish?
To me there are three people who are unselfish: Aditya. Aditya is always there to help people, we never really get to see what he wants, he usually wanting the best for everyone. He supports a heart broken Jai, consoles a shattered Bani, comforts and cajoles his mother, agreed to Saahil- Rano's marriage because they were in love and still treats Pia - Pushkar well. He stands to be one of the most unselfish people in Kasamh Se without sacrificing anything; he manages to help people when they need him. I could also see him standing by Jigyasa whenever she needs him. There was a scene that depicted that recently.


What is one thing that makes us different from others? (I'll tell you my opinion; it's definitely our principles from my point of view)
When looking at differences, there are a lot of things that make us different from others, but what really draws the line are what values and morals you hold, how you perceive life as, and how you live it. Morals and values define our personality and spirituality, and how we perceive life and live it define our personality. People differ in their personalities, for example: calm and gentle Bani, hot tempered and impulsive Jai, fun loving and spiritual dadi, cunning and selfish Ranveer etc


If you're loved one was to commit a mistake, and you forgive him/her for that, would it be called being egotistical or protection?
It depends on what type of mistake it is first and foremost. It will be considered egoistical if someone else was hurt by this mistake, but if you forgive your loved one for a mistake that didn't harm anyone else's life, I would consider it protection. For example: Jai forgiving Pushkar, Pushkar hurt Jai by eloping with Pia and betraying his trust and Jai did hurt Pushkar as well by taking away his home, kidnapping them etc. By no means can we measure this, but it sets a balance, now the only way they both can live happier is by forgiving one another, so that they can protect their relationships well. Pia being Bani's sister is related to Pushkar, and Jai being Bani's husband is related to Jai as well.


What is the word "self-centered" from your point of view means?
Self Centered to me means a person who degrades someone else to higher themselves. A self centered person does not necessarily need to be selfish because selfishness differs in two ways ; Being selfish to protect someone close to you or being selfish to satisfy your own needs regardless of what another feels. Self Centered to me means thinking in a closed box, not thinking out of the cubicle, thinking from one perspective always and not attempting to see another person's perspective.
What makes us perfect or are we not perfect? No one is perfect. Perfection is sought by everyone, but if the fruit of perfection reached everyone, this world would have been perfect as well. I think seeking perfection enables people to work harder, to achieve more, it's basically a drive to motivate people to work better and harder.


What message does Kasamh Se sends?
Kasamh Se sends messages of love, anger, sisterhood, sacrifices, intelligence and motherhood.


Messages of Love – Rano – Saahil got married because they loved each other. Anu – Rohit got married because they loved each other.

Messages of Anger – Jai's undeniable anger tantrums – when Pia left him heart broken justifiable yet it was a form of anger. Jigyasa's ever growing need to get angry at every minuscule thing in Bani-Pia-Rano's lives and how Jai cares for them..

Messages of Sisterhood – Bani-Pia-Rano standing by one another when needed support. When Pia ran away leaving Jai heartbroken, even having some anger for Pia, Bani stood by her to protect her sister, Rano srood by Bani through her tough tides with Jai, and then both Pia and Rano stood by her when her love tides tangled with sorrow and anger. They all care for each other and it is reflected very well.

Messages of Sacrifices – Bani marrying Jai to save Pia's honor – yea it was a glory moment for us Bani-Jai fans, but it was a mighty sacrifice. I know of none other who has sacrificed anything so far. Maybe Sonali? But it wasn't really a sacrifice Jai didn't love her, so she had to step out, though I do feel sorry for her.

Messages of Intelligence – Ranveer and Jigyasa always finding ways to manipulate situations to get Bani and her sisters into trouble. Roshni very cunningly set up a road that led to Bani finding out the truth about the Park Road incident.

Messages of Motherhood – Bani's anger towards Jai because he accidentally killed her mother yet still loving him. She was motherless because of the man she loves (or so we are shown as) Bani being a mother figure for her two younger sisters and caring for them like a mother. Jigyasa swinging between being a mother and a mother who doesn't care about her children. The Anu-pregnancy scene still creates doubts in my mind whether she cares for other children as well, or just Ranveer? When Anu's pregnancy was revealed she was more angry about Bani saving her daughter's honor than about the actual severity of the issue and about her daughter's future life.

Keep smiling...

Love

Soni

Nice analysis Soni👏..I guess "choose the right answer" type questions are not made for you😉..You tend to agree and disagree at the same time..

Loved your " Message from KS" answers..

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Excellent Discussion Khoo and Rebecca... 👏 Ummm... will answer the q's soon!
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Posted: 19 years ago
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In which category do you portray yourself? Selfish motives sometimes or always sacrificing?
i would consider myself as inbetween but more to the sacrificing side....when i say selfish motives i look at the things i want in life...a good career...a great husband ..house..car...but i think i fall more on the sacrificing side cos i am doing this but mostly for my family....i always think of my parents happiness and my brothers whom i love.

When was the last time you were ever selfish to someone?
i guess i do it everyday in my life...at my job..i try to outsmart everyone so that i can be recognised with my work and i can succeed in my job...


In Kasamh Se, what character from your point of view is not selfish?
bani...she is not selfish...she is girl caught in unwanted situations...first her mum dying..being the eldest she looked after her sisters..at that point she also lost her father...with her mum her fathers will to live seized...so she was also the breadwinner in the family...She was the one who had to deal with all the financial burden her father left them to....than to look out for Pia and getting married to a man who not only despised her but treated her like gabbage...than she falls in love with a man who she finds out later is her mums killer (even though in an accident)...she is someone who is very brave and courageous to live upto all this...no girl in her situation would stand all that...she is hurting and she is lost..the only thing keeping her going at this point in time is her love for her unborn child...so Bani is not selfish yet she is a survivor of unwanted circumstances!!.

What is one thing that makes us different from others? (I'll tell you my opinion; it's definitely our principles from my point of view)
yup u are right its principles but i also feel its also the background u come from...for example if u have been raised in an extended family where there are elderly people..and there are family relations..u tend act different to those who are brought up independently and in a small families...and yet it comes down to the upbringing of an individual that lead us to the principles we have... people differ..some in life look for love and attention whereas some in life look for fame, glory and accomplishments etc etc...its our principles and upbringing that lead us to be the unique individuals we are

If you're loved one was to commit a mistake, and you forgive him/her for that, would it be called being egotistical or protection?
protection i guess...i mean how long can u stay mad at your loved one for???....time is the healer to greatest hurts and thats what happened to Jai and Bani...with time Jai forgot Pia and realised the importance of Bani...its also egotistical i think coz when u loose or dont get what u want it tends to hurt ur ego..and more than hurt u are just not accepting the fact that it has happened...this is what Jai faced...he was the person who always got what he wanted in life...when he didnt ...he did everything in his power to destroy those who bit him to it...

What is the word "self-centered" from your point of view means?
think about urself in any situation...
i feel that a self-centered person is one who makes best use of any situation to benefit themselves....a good example is Pia...she is a postive character in the show...yet most of us hate her, question is why??..simple she is always thinking of what she wants...its reality...every girl wants to marry rich...famous..have all the luxury in life...and thats what she did...most girls in this day and age want to live independently with their husbands and thats what Pia wanted...she loves her sisters no doubt but she is always thinking what she feels is right....she wants Bani to divorce the same man who gave her a job in the office...firs she doesnt know how her sister feels n thinking that everything is forced onto her she is encouraging a divorce for her...she is only thinking of her sister not knowing the truth...and second she is working for a man whom she hurt and betrayed yet for money she is willing to let go of that...


What makes us perfect or are we not perfect?
what makes us perfect is living up to our standards n principles...yet we are not perfect in doing that...a good example is Bani...she was ready to forgive Jai when it came to him accidently killing Ravinjay's wife but it was not the same when her own mother was involved...its human nature i believe...one cannot help it...you try and do what u believe in but when it comes to ur own heart and personal issues its not the same anymore

What message does Kasamh Se sends?
a great deal
- if there is a will there is a way...eg: its Bani's determination that other than marrying Jai she was able to get Pia married to Pushkar in Jai's own house
- love in its different aspects..eg: 3 sisters - how they could do anything for each other, Jigs/Jai...Jigs loves her brother but still causes so much misery for him...Jai/Bani...Pia/Pushkar...Jai/Pushkar
- Reality of life - eg is pia..love doesnt always get u everything...getting married to the one u love doesnt always gurantee u the happiness u always expect...
- Materialistic Things in life...we always say that money doesnt buy everything in life but looking at reality it is as important as breathing air...if u dont have money in life u cannot buy the necessitites to get the happiness u want..it is equally as important..look at Pia n Pushkar's life......

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