Bani's counter-attack on Jai - Justified?

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Posted: 19 years ago
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For those who did not see the episode yesterday, a quick recap on the scene that I am referring to:

The Party is in full swing and Jai as usual is in his Bani-bashing mode and she is as usual putting up with everything....and has her eyes permanently downcast and does not utter a single word throughout the episode, except for the last scene!

Jai very sarcastically and maliciously announces that his wife, Bani Walia would be handling the Mount Abu Project, and the Casino is to be built on the house where she has been born and brought up and that he wants Bani to come on the stage and say a few words herself on how she feels about her house breaking down and a Casino being built in its place....

Bani comes on the podium and starts off by thanking Jai, referring to him as her darling husband, many times in fact, much to his astonishment and later amusement.....and then repeats the same words he had used to admonish her the previous day....and finishes by announcing that Jai is also going to build an Orphange right next to the Casino in her Father's memory....Jai is at first shell-shocked and then his face turns ashen with a cold rage....

Throughout this 5 minute sequence, Bani is not once sarcatic or rude, nor does she give cold glares to Jai....she speaks calmly, emotionally and in a very matter-of-fact manner....and for the first time since her marriage to Jai, Bani takes a stand against him and dares to cross him....infront of everyone present.

Now, my question for you is:

  • Is Bani justified in her act? Was it the correct thing that Bani did by avenging her Father's insult in a manner that left Jai completely stumped?
  • Secondly, assuming that Bani is justified in what she did, was this the correct method to counter Jai's all-consuming hatred and anger against her? Will Jai feel that Bani has once again back-stabbed him?
  • Assuming that indeed Bani has taken a back-street route to counter Jai, did she really have any other option?
  • Would Bani's silent acceptance of Jai's torrential anger and insults heaped upon her make Jai any less angry towards her in the future? One day Jai had himself said that he hates people who cannot stand up for themselves, so does that mean, Jai will start respecting Bani from now onwards, because she dared to take a stand againt him?
  • Once Jai comes to know that Mohan had helped Pia and Pushkar, will he feel once again, that Bani has turned all his people against him? Or will just be upset with Mohan?

Would love to read your views and counter-views on the above!

Love,

MT

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hi Mt

Not replied to a post in a long time but thought i would do to this one...

Now, my question for you is:

  • Is Bani justified in her act? Was it the correct thing that Bani did by avenging her Father's insult in a manner that left Jai completely stumped?

I think Bani will always be proud of her parents and what her father did and she will never let anyone else be it Jai maling their names so I think she did the right thing as even if Jai had to make this annoucment he should have kept Bani's father ouf os it but his whole purpose was to destroy his reputation because that would inflict pain on Pia and Bani...😕

  • Secondly, assuming that Bani is justified in what she did, was this the correct method to counter Jai's all-consuming hatred and anger against her? Will Jai feel that Bani has once again back-stabbed him?

No I think Bani answered Jai back in a very subtle and sofisticated manner she did use a public arena but she kept Jai so called izzat but making him the big man for opening the orphanage..I think Jai would be stupid to think she back stabbed him..

  • Assuming that indeed Bani has taken a back-street route to counter Jai, did she really have any other option?

I think Jai hadn't left Bani with an option either she went completely against her pati or she is uses this route which I think is the best way to tell Jai that she is not wrecking his reputation publicly but also giving him a good name...😛

  • Would Bani's silent acceptance of Jai's torrential anger and insults heaped upon her make Jai any less angry towards her in the future? One day Jai had himself said that he hates people who cannot stand up for themselves, so does that mean, Jai will start respecting Bani from now onwards, because she dared to take a stand againt him?

I think come what may Jai saheb can act as a tough guy but inside he has a mellow heart even thoguh he has been hurt by Pia but Jai deep down is a soft personality no matter what he is doing out of his anger and I think He resepcted Bani anyway and now with time he will realise she is the bigger person for listening and taking hi rubbish but still shinning like a star...😃

  • Once Jai comes to know that Mohan had helped Pia and Pushkar, will he feel once again, that Bani has turned all his people against him? Or will just be upset with Mohan?

I think Initial reaction would be that Bani is taking all people away formhim but than he might realise what has Bani got and maybe than he will realise that Bani is the right person for him...I think Mohan will have to face the music initally but things might sette later on..

MT since you have posted so much I havent been able to reply to I thought I must do today.


Samy

will just be upset with Mohan?will just be upset with Mohan?

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Posted: 19 years ago
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hi mt , i dnt hav time to give answer to each question but i am giving my general view,

i was not quiet haapy with bani's declaration of the

orphanage by jai. i know jai was really horrible in blasting bani by tainting her father,but jai was not completely wrong,

there was truth in jai's words. more importantly , bani can make jai pay his price for that behaviour later on.

everything should be done at the right place, time and manner.

jai is a wounded tiger and bani cant deny dat he has been wronged by pia.. already jai is crossing his limit in his revenge. 2day bani's declaration only will increase the hatred of jai and his zeal to take revenge. bani should think practically and should realise that she should show sympathy towads jai and if possible, try to be with pia without jai's knowledge. by attacking jai, she is not making correct move, at

least my logic says so.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Is Bani justified in her act? Was it the correct thing that Bani did by avenging her Father's insult in a manner that left Jai completely stumped?

That is a difficult one to answer. It might not have been the best thing to do… Jai wont like it much. But what can be guaranteed is that it will have a positive effect on both Jai and Bani in the future. So it is fine.

Secondly, assuming that Bani is justified in what she did, was this the correct method to counter Jai's all-consuming hatred and anger against her? Will Jai feel that Bani has once again back-stabbed him?

Bani outwitted him, but he will take it a bit more seriously saying she backstabbed him. There is a small chance that this will not happen if Dadi talks to him about it and expresses her happiness and pride in him. A very slight possibility, but might work.

Assuming that indeed Bani has taken a back-street route to counter Jai, did she really have any other option?

I cant think of any… may be there was. I would have liked it more if she had hinted to Jai she was upto something at the party. That way Jai would have been prepared and it would have been an open challenge. There wouldn't be a question of Jai accusing Bani of back stabbing once again. What will hurt him more is Bani resorting to it. He holds Bani in high regard though he wouldn't accept it as of now…

Would Bani's silent acceptance of Jai's torrential anger and insults heaped upon her make Jai any less angry towards her in the future? One day Jai had himself said that he hates people who cannot stand up for themselves, so does that mean, Jai will start respecting Bani from now onwards, because she dared to take a stand againt him?
Jai needs to vent out all the anger and hatred in his heart once it has gone out of his system he will calm down himself. Bani's love and concern could quicken the process.
Jai has always respected Bani, when he cools off after his initial outburst he will be able to appreciate Bani's strength of character and conviction a lot more. Jai doesn't believe in giving someone respect, he believes in the other person commanding it from him. Bani surely does command it.

Once Jai comes to know that Mohan had helped Pia and Pushkar, will he feel once again, that Bani has turned all his people against him? Or will just be upset with Mohan?
It is obvious the 1st target of his hurt lament will be Bani. She will definitely get a gr8 piece of his mind for turning his friends against him. (Btw what happened to Sonali? She never called up Bani to ask what happened to Pia-Pushkar?) There is going to a underlining jealousy factor that will play a major role in it. For the same reason he will end up addressing Bani as his wife. In sense he will tell Bani he cant believe that HIS wife would turn his friend against him.
It is going to a big showdown at Mohan's place, but mohan knows Jai well to handle him. Jai is too transparent, he cant hide his emotions atleast from people who understand him well. Mohan will see through to the jealousy Jai is feeling and catch him off guard and make him realize he is love with Bani. Jai in a denial mode would contribute to a great watch.

Bye
Luv
Anu.
Edited by anushka_5 - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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bani's conter attacked on jai is not justified. ya one thing i agreed that jai should not have told anything about her father but jai was totally out of his mind tht day and before that bani always said about their upbringing and their parvarish. so jai reminds all this and told a bad thing about her father. but bani is selfish which again prove. she doen't want to understand jai and always think about her sisters and father and family pride.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Great response guys and Samy, its great to see you back again! 😃

I feel that on the whole Bani was justified in what she did to Jai, because that was the only way to put a stop to his madness by making him see that there is someone in the World who has the courage to take a stand against him and that if he is hurt, then so is she! And Jai was correct in all that he told Bani before, but was entirely wrong when he talked about her Father who is not even alive in such a deregotory manner...Jai didn't even know Bani's Father, he said all those things just for the heck of it, only to hurt Bani...and like any self-respecting daughter, Bani retaliated in a way that she thought was the best!

Bani did this without insulting or demeaning Jai in anyway....if you remember the last line of the episode, Bani looks at Jai, her eyes are almost moist and she says with emotion in her voice, "Thank you my dear husband...for everything..." In a way, she makes Jai a greater person in everyone's eye's.....even though Jai is going to give hell to Bani for this transgression!

MT
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Posted: 19 years ago
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[Quote=mistletoe]Is Bani justified in her act? Was it the correct thing that Bani did by avenging her Father's insult in a manner that left Jai completely stumped?

Bani was already reeling under insults heaped by Jai. My guess is even though Bani did not want to react to Jai but Jai took things a bit too far when he insulted her father. So it was kind of a spot reaction on Bani's part to announce about the orphanage. and the best part was the way the two spoke about no one expcept their closest people will be able to make out their animosity. and that is the beauty of the whole thing

[Quote=mistletoe]Secondly, assuming that Bani is justified in what she did, was this the correct method to counter Jai's all-consuming hatred and anger against her? Will Jai feel that Bani has once again back-stabbed him?

There is no correct or wrong method here. I feel that Bani did not plan out this whole thing. Rather it must have occured to her then and there. Plus I feel that u need to react some times. Always reacting might give rise to more animosity but sometimes you need to stand up for your values/ideals. Of course Jai is going to repeat his dialogue ' How many more times are you sisters going to give me problems/back stab me ?'.

[Quote=mistletoe]Assuming that indeed Bani has taken a back-street route to counter Jai, did she really have any other option?

No she did not have any other option. She could have done two things yesterday apart from whatever she did. Either she could have exposed the hatred between them by going completely against Jai or could have painted a sad picture of herself by crying herself out. But she chose the more dignified way. She could not have shown her anger against Jai as whatever said and done she respects her Mr Walia and the reason she got married to him was to save his honour. Plus she was thinking that Pia might be back in time. Jai has always taken care not to insult her in public and so Bani also takes care of the same. If she had cried her out then also it wud have created problems for Jai only.

[Quote=mistletoe]Would Bani's silent acceptance of Jai's torrential anger and insults heaped upon her make Jai any less angry towards her in the future? One day Jai had himself said that he hates people who cannot stand up for themselves, so does that mean, Jai will start respecting Bani from now onwards, because she dared to take a stand againt him?

I always feel that once Jai has poured out all his anger then he is going to love Bani with the same kind of passion that he has in hating her family. If you don't react to any situation mostly it might just fizzle out until you rake up some other issue and that is what is happening right now. Whatever Jai might say/claim but deep down he respects Bani for her ideals and principles. In fact he had remarked to Aditya that he sees the same kind of fire in both Bani and Pushkar as when he was young. So obviously he holds her in good esteem. Its only that right now that is kind of shadowed by his hatred and sooner or later they are bound to change.

[Quote=mistletoe]Once Jai comes to know that Mohan had helped Pia and Pushkar, will he feel once again, that Bani has turned all his people against him? Or will just be upset with Mohan?

He is going to feel that Bani has tried to alienate him from his family and friends. and yes he will be upset with Mohan and as he is now feeling upset with everyone around him.

Swathi

(btw am in a hurry today so not providing very detailed answers. But had to answer them somehow as I missed answering the last few question/answers series)

Edited by swathi - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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As much as she is justified... she is not gaining by stumping Jai. She needs to make her moves right.. at this point, she needs to show him that she is with him, not against him. Yes he said all that stuff agaist her father, but that was in anger, in frustration. It is not normal for Jai to behave that way. Once she gets Jai's confidence, she can get him to understand that it is not right to bring in family into arguments. Rule #1 for a marriage to work- leave the family alone. Battle it between the spouses first.
And what are the script writers thinking.. an orphanage next to a casino!!!! Gosh.. can they not think of something else?
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: vazz


And what are the script writers thinking.. an orphanage next to a casino!!!! Gosh.. can they not think of something else?

😆 Vazz, not just that, in the first place, I cannot understand what on Earth would a Casino do in a completely non-descript place like Mount Abu? The Hill-station is known for its famous Jain Temples....and most of the tourists who go there are either small-town honeymooner's or old people for pilgrimages...

What is Jai going to do with a Casino in his Sasural, I wonder?😕😆

I guess he has money to blow and a wife to torture......😉

MT

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

😆 Vazz, not just that, in the first place, I cannot understand what on Earth would a Casino do in a completely non-descript place like Mount Abu? The Hill-station is known for its famous Jain Temples....and most of the tourists who go there are either small-town honeymooner's or old people for pilgrimages...

What is Jai going to do with a Casino in his Sasural, I wonder?😕😆

I guess he has money to blow and a wife to torture......😉

MT

😆😆.. As much as I am against the dowry system.. I cannot resist from taking a dig at Jai... he did not get any dowry in his wedding.. so he decided to use the casino to make up for it... 😉

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