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LIKEDMG

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Posted: 10 years ago

#441

Originally posted by: shantellbrown
For the first time..watching this show..I felt a disconnect. Yesterday..I agree with AY...for the first scene it was almost like Parth had not been clued into how his responses should pan out. His game was off. It was like only Niti had gotten a brief about the scene.

Today's scene too..I like how Nandini brought what Alya wants as opposed to just what Dhruv wants..but I felt their explanations about their realisations of love weren't upto the mark.

Both seemed to be more into their Niti and Parth mode...rather than Manan. I mean come on for the first time you are expressing openly about how you realized you were in love and your partner's reaction is so thanda.

Just my opinion..am a silent stalker of this forum..LOve your discussions.

same here ...

felt disconnected...

Manan seems more Pani ...

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HamiSky

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Posted: 10 years ago

#442

Originally posted by: LIKEDMG

same here ...
felt disconnected...
Manan seems more Pani ...

interview wala Pani

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shantellbrown

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Posted: 10 years ago

#443

I have seen enough soaps both Indian and shows on NBC,CBS and ABC, to know that to keep a show running ,there is always a screen play formulas. This formula allows for development of story lines without disconnecting the viewer.

In KY2..Manna is the main storylien-which writes/CV's are doing a pretty decent job.

Side stories..you can only have 2..so in a half hour show,your main story takes 10-12 minutes and you focus 5 mins each on the other 2 sub-plots.Here right now..we have Aryaman's revenge plan, Harshad and Mukti-wierd love story and lame plans, Alya's eating disorder,Navya's pregnancy and the Talent Hunt.

Too many sub plots...some knots need to be unraveled quickly for us to connect with them.

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Opti

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Posted: 10 years ago

#444

Originally posted by: OhMeriJaan

Completely agree! And that is why I felt the reason she gave for her saying she forgave him because of that felt inappropriate. It wasn't entirely her realisation of LOVE rather it was something unsaid that she took a much longer time to understand and accept. Maybe the dialogue could have been rephrased better.

Agree Janani, the dialogue should have been phrased better. Manan were on a totally different plane as compared to Dhrulya when they broke up. Their relationship was slowly and steadily built around the events that happened around them. There was an underlying respect each had for the other, even in their worst phase. They connected on an emotional level first before being physical. Dhrulya on the other hand rushed into a relationship on the rebound. Both of them were needy for love and attention unlike Manan where one was always willing to give when the other was in need. Initially Nandu was the giver but later Manik took on that role when she was in need.

Coming to the forgiveness, she forgave him on NYE and embraced him with all his baggage because he assuaged her fear of being low on his priority list. By choosing Dhruv over her, she had felt she wasn't important to him. But when he told her that he will continue to choose them over her always because they needed him just as he needed her, she accepted him as he was because it only showed how high he had placed her. The confidence he has in her ability to shield and guide him like a star touched her. I feel there was always love underlying all their actions. Only they took their time realising and accepting it to themselves first before they did to each other. That realisation hit them when they were faced with the prospect of losing each other. Nandu realised her love when Khurana blackmailed her into giving up Manik, Manik realised his love when Nandu nearly got killed in the fire accident. This conversation could have been had in a different context where they discuss when they first recognised their love rather than bring it in Dhrulya discussion.

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charminggenie

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Posted: 10 years ago

#445

@Opti0 Us as a viewer will always feel weird when anyone compere MaNan thing with anyone on this serial. So the jarring difference is more for us. Manik and Nandini are not aware of Dhrulya dynamics so in whatever context they look at their thing, it will always be weird and bizarre. Manik will be more hopeful and Nandu cautious.

I don't think Nandu was at a good place with her fears during NYE , it was more like she had a good excuse to be with him- "protect", "need" were too strong then.

I think loads of plots are because sometimes PaNi might not be able to work around the hours. Also in a daily show we need constant arcs for other characters or long pauses.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#446

Originally posted by: Opti

I din't mind Alya-Dhruv link up because it explores one facet in the yarriyan. What happens to couples in a band when they break up. Yes, Manik-Alya already showcased that but what they showed with Alya-Dhruv had another dimension. what happens when the discarded girl friend of your best buddy becomes your girl friend. The idea was good but somewhere things got messed up in the execution. They made Dhruv so irredeemable with his extreme actions that a patch up between the two would look unnatural. Maybe they may show Dhruv leave Fab 5 and branch out on his own. These things happen in reality and band do disintegrate because of unsustainable relationship within the band.

This is the exact point which leaves me baffled, and somehow manages to always linger over MaNan's or Dhruv and Aliya's relationship, either directly or indirectly. No doubt CV is very deliberately moving forward to bring Dhruv and Aliya together, but in back of my mind, I will always question, can you truly move on with with your buddy's ex gf, with out a slightest doubt in your mind or with out any insecurities! I mean would we have accepted if Nandini was Dhruv's ex-gf and now Manik's? I D K .

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Posted: 10 years ago

#447

Originally posted by: charminggenie
@Opti0 Us as a viewer will always feel weird when anyone compere MaNan thing with anyone on this serial. So the jarring difference is more for us. Manik and Nandini are not aware of Dhrulya dynamics so in whatever context they look at their thing, it will always be weird and bizarre. Manik will be more hopeful and Nandu cautious.

I don't think Nandu was at a good place with her fears during NYE , it was more like she had a good excuse to be with him- "protect", "need" were too strong then.

I think loads of plots are because sometimes PaNi might not be able to work around the hours. Also in a daily show we need constant arcs for other characters or long pauses.

Manan need not be aware about Dhrulya dynamics but they witness their ugly melt down.

Lets see this differently. Now if Manik really meant every word he uttered during their Musicana break up, do you think Nandu would have been able to forgive and accept him later if he had returned to her? She was very upset when she came to know of Manik's unilateral sacrifice of her and gave him a hard time before she accepted him but she knew that the guy did have very strong feelings for her. In the case of Dhrulya, the strength of Dhruv feelings is yet to be seen but they did witness the public humiliation of Alya by him. Being a girl Nandu would be in a better position to appreciate Alya's pain. Now this should have been the reason she should have given Manik abiut Dhrulya reconciliation rather than trying to compare it with the realisation of her love.

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charminggenie

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Posted: 10 years ago

#448

Originally posted by: Opti

Manan need not be aware about Dhrulya dynamics but they witness their ugly melt down.
Actually they have no clue . Dhrulya broke-up during Soha time. Dhruv thing was very late. There was a lot that went there but is conveniently ignored because Dhruv went all dick-head on Alya. She was guilty of breaking their thing equally. So nope, whatever fab5 or MaNan know is very one-sided thing.

Lets see this differently. Now if Manik really meant every word he uttered during their Musicana break up, do you think Nandu would have been able to forgive and accept him later if he had returned to her? She was very upset when she came to know of Manik's unilateral sacrifice of her and gave him a hard time before she accepted him but she knew that the guy did have very strong feelings for her. In the case of Dhrulya, the strength of Dhruv feelings is yet to be seen but they did witness the public humiliation of Alya by him. Being a girl Nandu would be in a better position to appreciate Alya's pain. Now this should have been the reason she should have given Manik abiut Dhrulya reconciliation rather than trying to compare it with the realisation of her love.
Agree to everything. Yet break-up is different from Alya's pain. She might be able to heal or forgive Dhruv , if there is something she wants in that relationship. Nandu never gave up on their thing because even without love realization, Nandu had similar feelings for Manik which is why not only could she understand his insecurities, his baggage and overcome her own fears. You do need a motivating factor to clean up the mess, for Nandini- it was her love. Which is why she is asking a very valid point- Does Alya love Dhruv? If yes then it's worth fighting for , otherwise we are complicating their equation.

Alya needs to figure out what she feels for Dhruv- if it's love then talk. if it's not then move on.

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Opti

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Posted: 10 years ago

#449

Originally posted by: -Aarya-

This is the exact point which leaves me baffled, and somehow manages to always linger over MaNan's or Dhruv and Aliya's relationship, either directly or indirectly. No doubt CV is very deliberately moving forward to bring Dhruv and Aliya together, but in back of my mind, I will always question, can you truly move on with with your buddy's ex gf, with out a slightest doubt in your mind or with out any insecurities! I mean would we have accepted if Nandini was Dhruv's ex-gf and now Manik's? I D K .

I think it would have been possible if both the partners were mature enough to let the past be in the past but here they aren't. So while I wasn't averse to the CVs exploring this angle, I am against Dhrulya getting back together again because the damage to their relationship is too deep and irrepairable in my view. I think Dhruv should break away from Fab 5 and set out on his own not because he can't stand Fab 5 but because he cares enough to not ruin the fabric of the band which has been strained because of his own foolish and intolerable behaviour. They can show how the friends still stay connected even if they are not part of the same band.