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Posted: 10 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: kresham

Sirf ek sawaal yaar Shrutu

Jab tujhe itna samaj aata hai...toh tu har baar sawaal karke,har baar pareshaan hoke ,har baar heart break kyu post karti thi...OMG aise toh shayad amin apne sapne me bhi na likh pau...

Rula diya tere post ne yaar...😭


PS:Nandu n Aliya shud join hands n give a tough time to Manik n Dhruv----my only wish left after yesterday's epi😡

PPS:I dont want Nandu to go behind Manik n Navya shud stop her now😡


kritu it took me hell lot of time i .e almost 3 weeks to understand wat dey r showing abt dhruv!!

rula diya😲??? lol!! am such a bad writer😆 n u loved it.

u r❤️🤗

p.s- manruv will surely get dat from der gals😈
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Posted: 10 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: harinisriram39

Wow Shruthi, Good you made this post. Its not about what Dhruv is doing right or wrong at this point of time. Because every character in this show have been right or wrong at some point or other. Yes, even Manik had his moments of low and so did Cabir. But they are not blamed the way Dhruv is being blamed.


Post the magistrate scene Manik was deeply wounded and shattered. And the way he behaved with Nandini, it was hurting too. Every one saw Manik's hurt then. But are not understanding Dhruv's pain. Its not that Dhruv is all happy doing this. He has come to a breaking point.

Now he just wants to be free and he is not seeing any good or bad.

What ever his actions be, its just that Dhruv wants to be treated as an equal.
All the Fab 4 saw that Manik was shattered after that magistrate scene. Infact when Manik said that he wants to be alone, Dhruv insisted that they wont leave him alone and reiterated that he be with them. Still Manik left them. We understood Manik's mind at that time. And again after the V day Fiasco Dhruv tried to talk to Manik about Nandini. But Manik like kind of shut him of. So what is Dhruv to consider himself as Manik. When the album got cancelled because of that Soha thing, Dhruv did not blame him for that. instead he asked him why Manik did not tell him about Soha. He defended Manik's actions to Alya. It was he who said that Manik had always been there for them.
Even when Dhruv was defending Manik, Alya was all about Manik and was blaming Nandini for Manik behaving this way.

Dhruv could not be free with Manik in case of Nandini even after he got to know about them, because Manik has set the boundaries of topic of conversation (I can understand why Manik felt that way because Manik considered as a protector)

Dhruv could not make his and Alya's relationship public, because at that point of time Alya did not want ( I am not blaming her)

Dhruv could not share with Cabir (He himself was messed up on what what was going around let alone talk it out. even Manik did not want to talk about Nandini to Cabir after V-Day)

So finally Dhruv wanted to break free and he did and he is not in his right mind. But he will realize.

Yes, Dhruv's behaviour to Cabir was hurting (Even I was hurt seeing Cabir and Manik so broken). But then wasnt Cabir also a bit rude at that time when Dhruv proposed that they take back the case on Harshad. Cabir accused Dhruv of taking sides. Cabir left the place stating harshly to Manik that let him be with his best friend Dhruv and his Ex (not the exact dialogue but something similar). In anger one hardly has control of words and thats why we are told to watch our words when we are angry. Dhruv was all in support of Cabir as long as he thought that the guy was Cabir's uncle. He only lashed out after knowing it was Cabir and it was a kind of prank.

And secondly what we as audience get to see and what Manik and Cabir are aware, Dhruv is not aware. Dhruv is not aware that this Fusion Concert is put as a challenge, as a hope for Manik and Nandini's relation. Dhruv is also not aware of Pandit's intention on Nandini which Manik is aware of. Dhruv is not aware of Nyo's manipulations that she is setting up Nandini and has given a free hand to Manik to do as he please.
He just knows that he has replaced Manik and there is one person who has chosen Dhruv because he has potential. He is able to realize that Pandit is playing with him. He is also not able to understand why Manik is constantly interfering or why Nandini is leaving the class only to be seen with Manik. In all his messed up confused mind, he only gives one reason that Manik is not allowing Dhruv to be himself - Its like Dhruv prefers to be a failure by being himself rather than emerging out a winner with the help of Manik.

I am not justifying what Dhruv is doing as right. But he is not the only one who is wrong. Instead of blaming or lashing out at a character, isnt it good to observe why one is behaving in such a way, what were the conditions leading out to this and how would they grow and realize and emerge into a stronger character.

This is only to show how Manik and Dhruv would emerge as stronger friends after all this and be friends in a truer sense instead of hiding things from each other or just be in gratitude.

Who said we shouldnt fight with our friends. We fight, we keep away, say all the wrong things only to get back and laugh at it.

This show is not about just romance romance and romance. It is also about growth and realization.

And Utkarsh is doing a good job as this changed Dhruv.

Thank you for this post Shruthi.


i second u😳. ur post always leaves me speechless😆 n i will never ve anything to say😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: DHRUVLOVER


kritu it took me hell lot of time i .e almost 3 weeks to understand wat dey r showing abt dhruv!!

rula diya😲??? lol!! am such a bad writer😆 n u loved it.

u r❤️🤗

p.s- manruv will surely get dat from der gals😈

Yes Shrutu u wrote it so beautifully
u know what whenever i tried to explain u i was at loss of words thats y i used to endup saying one or two lines...but now u urself said n expressed somany things
exactly this was happening with every character n this time it was Dhruv's character development time...so it was obvious that when a person is silent he turns out to b more dangerous at times...

Remember the goons incident he hit Manik hard so this is also same...Manik did wrong by sacrificing...shukar kar Dhruv ne use punch nahi kiya sacrifice keliye as he did for goons fiasco...that is Dhruv who cant see wrong things happening around him thats y he said to Cabir that he understood how ppl feel when they got tricked by us...

this was my POV...abt Dhruv


U know what i m thinking this boys will patchup with in no time i guess n will go behind girls for sure to beg an apology but i really want girls to give tough time
I really want Nandu to shut both of them abt the words they used for her in their convo...so that they shud understands their girls importance in their life
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Posted: 10 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: kresham

Yes Shrutu u wrote it so beautifully
u know what whenever i tried to explain u i was at loss of words thats y i used to endup saying one or two lines...but now u urself said n expressed somany things
exactly this was happening with every character n this time it was Dhruv's character development time...so it was obvious that when a person is silent he turns out to b more dangerous at times...

Remember the goons incident he hit Manik hard so this is also same...Manik did wrong by sacrificing...shukar kar Dhruv ne use punch nahi kiya sacrifice keliye as he did for goons fiasco...that is Dhruv who cant see wrong things happening around him thats y he said to Cabir that he understood how ppl feel when they got tricked by us...

this was my POV...abt Dhruv


U know what i m thinking this boys will patchup with in no time i guess n will go behind girls for sure to beg an apology but i really want girls to give tough time
I really want Nandu to shut both of them abt the words they used for her in their convo...so that they shud understands their girls importance in their life

even i dont want gals to forgive dem easily, ManRuv shud suffer😳...some ppl r so blind abt manik dey dont understand manik is also at fault!! lets see how will dey take it, bt hope dey dont drag it!!! just end dis track with good note.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#35
sorry for the late reply DL was bit unwell

i just want to say one simple thing.we inherit relatives by virtue of our birth.
but we have the freedom to choose our friends.and manick dhruv have chosen
each other.our friends may be wrong impulsive or even selfish at times.
but does that mean we break up our friendship?if the answer is yes then it was
no friendship.as a friend who has such a ego or such a small heart to feel
hurt and turn back and walk away from the impulsive selfish friend is more
selfish in reality as that friend does not love his friend rather his own self
more and so feels hurt and walks away.

so i feel manick is doing right by staying with dhruv as many times as dhruv wrongs
now.and if any day manick wrongs any one dhruv too would always stand for
manick.its just that manick must keep trying.and leave him alone.i would rather
blame all the others who are trying to force a patch up.as nothing can be forced.
realization should come from within.manick must let dhruv have his independence.
sometimes distance is good to make people realize what they are missing out in their life.

right now dhruv needs to remain alone.lectures are irritating him and me too as a viewer 😆

people who tries to patch up two friends are unknowingly the cause of
permanent damage.let two friends settle their own dispute they will heal
and understand faster.rest of the world please mind your own business 😆


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Posted: 10 years ago
#36
Ok, the post is like REALLY long and I'm a bit drowsy so I didn't read it fully but I got the context, anyway.

Yes, they both are wrong!

And they're not just wrong because they way they were talking about Nandini- it's both their attitude towards life that is wrong.

The circumstances are wrong.

The words they chose were wrong.

And their biggest enemy- their INFERIORITY COMPLEX!

The CV's unleashed that side of both the characters when the girls entered their lives- the girls whom they fell in love with.

We got to see Manik's jealousy regarding DhruNi but it was inferiority complex at work. Remember Manik's words at the staircase after being rescued from the storeroom? "Always on the right path, Buddy. Mera kya hain...I like to be bad."

He has always considered Dhruv to be the "good guy" and himself to be the "villain". Remember Harshad's words? "You always wanted to be the villain, right? Then why are you trying to be Nandini's hero?" Harshad has known him for years, which means that the inferiority complex, the self-loathing ran deep!

It's just that Nandini never had a boyfriend or any sort of a relationship before him. To be precise, Nandini and DHRUV never had a history (he made sure of it, though) warna I wouldn't have been surprised if Manik would've acted like Dhruv had Nandini sided with Dhruv like Alya sided with Manik because Alya and Manik had a past.

In Dhruv's case, he never really was that complicated in his mind. But as they say, "what are the women for?" 😆

Dhruv was happy in his own bubble, being the only "good" one out of the rotten pieces. I put the word "good" in quotes because the only good thing he used to do was making sure that the victims of Fab 5 are safe albeit being bullied. He was very much a part of the whole bullying thing. He never really cared about the "stud" Manik getting all the hoopla and fame because it never really bothered him.

It only started to bother him when Alya happened to him.

DhruLya were going as smooth as a Mercedes in a highway- they bonded over Nandini and then bonded over their heartbreaks. It went like that till they got physical with each other and love followed suit.

Now, no love story can be w/o bumps, so DhruLya hit the main roads- full of bumps and portholes. THIS is where Dhruv's inferiority complex kicked in and HOW!

Dhruv had legit reasons to be insecure of Alya-Manik, his insecurities towards the ex couple and Alya manifested into anger and frustration at Manik himself!

Alya was just the catalyst...ManRuv had bigger, MUCH BIGGER issues b/w them!

No offence to your sentiments, but I've never really looked at ManRuv bond as "friendship"! It was an unhealthy, parasitic bond. It NEEDED to break in order for them to become actual friends. It had always been about a boy who suffers from "survivor's guilt" and does everything in his capacity to protect the one who saved him as he's the one who has been suffering since.

He didn't realize that he had been wrong in treating Dhruv that way. He became an overbearing parent who even monitored the people with whom Dhruv is meeting outside Fab 5. Now every overbearing parent will have to see that day when his child turns against them and says that they're "suffocating" him/her...this is exactly what has happened here.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Lilith.

Ok, the post is like REALLY long and I'm a bit drowsy so I didn't read it fully but I got the context, anyway.


Yes, they both are wrong!

And they're not just wrong because they way they were talking about Nandini- it's both their attitude towards life that is wrong.

The circumstances are wrong.

The words they chose were wrong.

And their biggest enemy- their INFERIORITY COMPLEX!

The CV's unleashed that side of both the characters when the girls entered their lives- the girls whom they fell in love with.

We got to see Manik's jealousy regarding DhruNi but it was inferiority complex at work. Remember Manik's words at the staircase after being rescued from the storeroom? "Always on the right path, Buddy. Mera kya hain...I like to be bad."

He has always considered Dhruv to be the "good guy" and himself to be the "villain". Remember Harshad's words? "You always wanted to be the villain, right? Then why are you trying to be Nandini's hero?" Harshad has known him for years, which means that the inferiority complex, the self-loathing ran deep!

It's just that Nandini never had a boyfriend or any sort of a relationship before him. To be precise, Nandini and DHRUV never had a history (he made sure of it, though) warna I wouldn't have been surprised if Manik would've acted like Dhruv had Nandini sided with Dhruv like Alya sided with Manik because Alya and Manik had a past.

In Dhruv's case, he never really was that complicated in his mind. But as they say, "what are the women for?" 😆

Dhruv was happy in his own bubble, being the only "good" one out of the rotten pieces. I put the word "good" in quotes because the only good thing he used to do was making sure that the victims of Fab 5 are safe albeit being bullied. He was very much a part of the whole bullying thing. He never really cared about the "stud" Manik getting all the hoopla and fame because it never really bothered him.

It only started to bother him when Alya happened to him.

DhruLya were going as smooth as a Mercedes in a highway- they bonded over Nandini and then bonded over their heartbreaks. It went like that till they got physical with each other and love followed suit.

Now, no love story can be w/o bumps, so DhruLya hit the main roads- full of bumps and portholes. THIS is where Dhruv's inferiority complex kicked in and HOW!

Dhruv had legit reasons to be insecure of Alya-Manik, his insecurities towards the ex couple and Alya manifested into anger and frustration at Manik himself!

Alya was just the catalyst...ManRuv had bigger, MUCH BIGGER issues b/w them!

No offence to your sentiments, but I've never really looked at ManRuv bond as "friendship"! It was an unhealthy, parasitic bond. It NEEDED to break in order for them to become actual friends. It had always been about a boy who suffers from "survivor's guilt" and does everything in his capacity to protect the one who saved him as he's the one who has been suffering since.

He didn't realize that he had been wrong in treating Dhruv that way. He became an overbearing parent who even monitored the people with whom Dhruv is meeting outside Fab 5. Now every overbearing parent will have to see that day when his child turns against them and says that they're "suffocating" him/her...this is exactly what has happened here.

Awsome post... Agree to each and every point..
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Posted: 10 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: .Lilith.

Ok, the post is like REALLY long and I'm a bit drowsy so I didn't read it fully but I got the context, anyway.


Yes, they both are wrong!

And they're not just wrong because they way they were talking about Nandini- it's both their attitude towards life that is wrong.

The circumstances are wrong.

The words they chose were wrong.

And their biggest enemy- their INFERIORITY COMPLEX!

The CV's unleashed that side of both the characters when the girls entered their lives- the girls whom they fell in love with.

We got to see Manik's jealousy regarding DhruNi but it was inferiority complex at work. Remember Manik's words at the staircase after being rescued from the storeroom? "Always on the right path, Buddy. Mera kya hain...I like to be bad."

He has always considered Dhruv to be the "good guy" and himself to be the "villain". Remember Harshad's words? "You always wanted to be the villain, right? Then why are you trying to be Nandini's hero?" Harshad has known him for years, which means that the inferiority complex, the self-loathing ran deep!

It's just that Nandini never had a boyfriend or any sort of a relationship before him. To be precise, Nandini and DHRUV never had a history (he made sure of it, though) warna I wouldn't have been surprised if Manik would've acted like Dhruv had Nandini sided with Dhruv like Alya sided with Manik because Alya and Manik had a past.

In Dhruv's case, he never really was that complicated in his mind. But as they say, "what are the women for?" 😆

Dhruv was happy in his own bubble, being the only "good" one out of the rotten pieces. I put the word "good" in quotes because the only good thing he used to do was making sure that the victims of Fab 5 are safe albeit being bullied. He was very much a part of the whole bullying thing. He never really cared about the "stud" Manik getting all the hoopla and fame because it never really bothered him.

It only started to bother him when Alya happened to him.

DhruLya were going as smooth as a Mercedes in a highway- they bonded over Nandini and then bonded over their heartbreaks. It went like that till they got physical with each other and love followed suit.

Now, no love story can be w/o bumps, so DhruLya hit the main roads- full of bumps and portholes. THIS is where Dhruv's inferiority complex kicked in and HOW!

Dhruv had legit reasons to be insecure of Alya-Manik, his insecurities towards the ex couple and Alya manifested into anger and frustration at Manik himself!

Alya was just the catalyst...ManRuv had bigger, MUCH BIGGER issues b/w them!

No offence to your sentiments, but I've never really looked at ManRuv bond as "friendship"! It was an unhealthy, parasitic bond. It NEEDED to break in order for them to become actual friends. It had always been about a boy who suffers from "survivor's guilt" and does everything in his capacity to protect the one who saved him as he's the one who has been suffering since.

He didn't realize that he had been wrong in treating Dhruv that way. He became an overbearing parent who even monitored the people with whom Dhruv is meeting outside Fab 5. Now every overbearing parent will have to see that day when his child turns against them and says that they're "suffocating" him/her...this is exactly what has happened here.

agreed👍🏼. ManRuv shared very unhealthy relationship. dey were kinda obsessed with each other n involved too much in each others life n the result is clear

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