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Posted: 19 years ago
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Prithvi does love Kripa, but Angad loves her on a different level. Angad can give his own life for Kripa and Prithvi can take the life of another for Kripa.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Neelu, I have to disagree with you on this one.


Yes, Prithvi does love Kripa, in his own warped way, but to say his love is stronger because he took a life for that love, well, that's not love, thats obsession.


Prithvi, being spurned by Kripa time after time, became obsessed with owning her, and he tried to kill Angad to get her, thus leading him to kill Josh when he found out about Prithvi's evil plans. He put his own happiness above hers and Angads, just so that he could get what he was so obsessive about i.e. Kripa. But even though he is married to her, she will never love him the way he wants her to love him.


Love is about giving. Giving unconditionally, whether the person you love, loves you in return or not. There are no conditions in love, and with Prithvi, he gained Kripa through ill-gotten gains, and once his nature is reavealed, she won't stay with him.


Love is about sacrificing one's own happiness for the sake of the one you love, not sacrificing someone else for that love. Prithvi sacrificed Josh, in order to get Kripa......Angad sacrificed himself, he ruined himself and destroyed his family for Kripa's happiness.


Like K-19 said, Angad right now, doesn't want to love Kripa, he wants revenge....or so he says, however, everytime he sees her, he yearns for her, everytime he hurts her, he hurts in return.


So what if the person you love is not with you right now, that doesn't mean you stop loving that person. No one claims that love is easy, love doesn't always bring happiness......its what you do with that love that defines you, and Prithvi taking a life in cold-blood not only tainted him, but it tainted his love.


So, no.....Prithvi's love for Kripa can never be stronger than Angad's love for her.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Yes actually I agree with u in sum point of views.

Prithvi lubs Kripa so much tht he killed Josh. 😳😡. I suppose if Angad was not thr Prithvi and KRipa would look very good and awesum as a pair. they knmow each other well and they were good friendz first and they understand each other well so Prithvi would hab been a nice husband but he did a crime for his 😡which I completely disagree. U don't need to kill a person.😡. U can wait for the person till your akhri saas.

Angad lubs KRipa too. He can't see KRipa in pain. 😭. Angad sacrificed himeslf for Kripa.😭. He pretends to hate KRipa but we all know tht he lubs KRipa a lot. 😃.

So I think both people's lub is expressed in a different way but still both lub KRipa very much. 😛

Actually many people think Angad lubs Kripa more because Prithvi killed Josh.😭. After seeing the Thursday's episode whr he said KRipa tht she can leave him 😭 and even drank a lot and see though PRithvi knows KRipa lubs Angad but he made Kripa his wife . He knew tht one day KRipa would lub him but unfortunately this din't as Kripa luvs Angad. 😛

PS- For the first time I wrote my opinion this much big. 😆

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Neelu Prithvi is obssessed in love , for tht kinda man how can we say he luvs more.. he will not love neither will hate 😕
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hey guys,

Dadhich sweetie - amazing question you raised for it allows us to perceive how both Angad and Prithvi have so far expressed their love for Kripa (expressed either directly or indirectly)! I am not really going to compare their love, but rather show what's important in love and whether either one of them have shown similarities or differences. Here goes my feeling…

What's important is

not just to live, but to share life;
not just to give, but to give one's self;

not just to love, but to live love;
not just to question, but to try to understand;
not just to accept, but to embody;

Angad – He learnt to live coz of his love and desired to share it, but distrust and misunderstanding walked in and he got swayed away. Now leave alone sharing life…he is onto destroying it. He has given himself to her for he thinks of nothing but her at all hours, whether tearing in love or raging with vengeance—love is visible! Not just to question, but to try to understand; not just to accept, but to embody;--this is where the problem currently lies in his frame of mind, for he question, but ddoesn't seek an honest reply from within. He has not accepted that maybe it's just not Kripa's fault alone, but that along the way he contributed to his own misery as well.

Prithvi - not just to live, but to share life; - he has learned to share life but has he given or taken? Let's focus how he actually got Kripa, through none other than deceit, framing, and lies by distancing her from real love of her life. He might have given himself completely to her, but has he given her the real truth of himself??? He breathes love no doubt, but isn't his love selfish for she is weeping and he doesn't reveal he is responsible for each tear-drop. His love is evident as well…people might say that one act of his should not refrain him from love, but even if we forgave what he did…is he realizing what he has done in all honesty? Not just to question, but to try to understand;
not just to accept, but to embody; -- same problem with him. Not willing to accept that Angad is settled in every breath of Kripa's and there is no room for that kind of love for anyone, not even her "husband."

What's important is

not so much to be present, as not to make one's self absent;
not so much to console, as to empathize;
not so much to win, as to go on fighting

Angad – Even though Kripa thought Angad wasn't part of her, she was self-deceived, for in his absence memories of his controlled her heart. Indeed this is where Prithvi could never make a space for himself, for Angad never emptied that home of her heart, so how could she allow Prithvi to settle? Whether be Angad's presence or absence…she couldn't let him leave for her conscience knew better!

Prithvi – however, he not only consoled Kripa, but empathizes with her at every point. Any time any one (Damini or Mishti) raises fingers at Kripa, he has always stood by her to give her support. Angad first consoled her, but how could he later coz he himself needed some dosage of it.

Both however have fought over her…Angad's fighting has taken the name of revenge and Prithvi's fighting in name of marriage. Neither have won, but they wish for Kripa's love (in case of Prithvi…it's more obvious, but we can't be oblivion as to why Angad repeatedly strikes at her dispositions).

What's important is

not to possess, but to set free;
not to compete, but to accompany;
not to criticize, but to give orientation;
not to be visible, but to be available;
not to arrive, but to continue on;
not to give solutions, but options;
not to long for the past, but to be able to rejoice in what has been
(transforming it into an eternal present,
where time and space melt into and sublimate one another).

all in all, not how much, but how deep.

to learn to love beyond what the heart imagines possible.

Angad – has had issues with: not to compete, but to accompany; not to be visible, but to be available; not to arrive, but to continue on; not to long for the past, but to be able to rejoice in what has been; -- As of now, he is literally competing with Kripa for he wishes to ruin her coz she ruined him by not placing trust earlier. He has moments where he feels and asks himself, yet doesn't provide the company they both truly desire. He is participating in widening the growing distance between them by fuming further hurting actions. He is visible, but is he there for her when she needs him? He keeps recalling the memories, but at her sight turns uncontrollable. The sad part is he tells her how much he "loved" her and if only she trusted him (as a solution), but is never willing to go beyond that thought of his. Kripa being unworthy of his love…you breathe love, but deny the essence of it within yourself. He lives in past, fights in present to conquer, and wants to live in defeated future (for how can he not be defeated if he destroys his soulmate).

Prithvi – this is where he gets a little higher footage, for he might have employed wrong ways to get his love, but he still accompanies her all the time and understands that he needs time. His shoulder has always been there for Kripa to rest when she feels lost, defeated, shattered…and Angad's bitterness has created more respect for Prithvi (not love) in Kripa's eyes. But, but, but… not to possess, but to set free – Prithvi claims to let Kripa be free, but he always internally wanted her! He could never possess her was his gravest fear, for he knew that he could not only not take Angad'd position, but never make a space for himself in that same way. If he had set Kripa free…none of this would have happened!

Angad – has shown powerful affects in these things - all in all, not how much, but how deep; to learn to love beyond what the heart imagines possible. – His love is deeper than the depths of ocean, greater than heights of skies, brighter than sun, more radiant than lightning bolt…u name it and we see it in his spirit for the way his heart wrenches for her is beyond imagination! His heart loves her so much and even he can't imagine it…we see how evident that was especially in the very last episode we saw!

Prithvi – loves her deeply, but is unaware of depths of love! He might love her more than anything, but does he love her more than himself? We might say yes to this...but think over again…why has he never told her what really happened? What is he afraid of?

So love…love…love!!! Angad or Prithvi?? Well what do you think now? Angad's love is beyond our thinking, and Prithvi' is within Kripa's boundary. Angad's is vengeful, and Prithvi's is supportive, Angad's is at depths and Prithvi's is at heights, Angad's is unable to locate and Prithvi's is searching, Angad's love is culpable now and Prithvi's love was blameworthy earlier…..

Now that we see both their love have different forces…it comes down to who they love…none other than Kripa sweetie! Since her heart chooses Angad…Angad's love has a higher standpoint!

-Love4ever!

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Posted: 19 years ago
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love4ever a very thoughtful thing you've written and quiet long too 😆 😆
Anyways i think Angad love is stronger then prithvi although i sometimes think that prithvi does love kripa more!

But anyways, Angad is trying to hate kripa as much as possiable right now, however his love is so strong that he is not able to hate her, his heart still cries when he hurts kripa!


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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: love4ever

prithvi - Not willing to accept that Angad is settled in every breath of Kripa's and there is no room for that kind of love for anyone, not even her "husband."

Angad – Even though Kripa thought Angad wasn't part of her, she was self-deceived, for in his absence memories of his controlled her heart. Indeed this is where Prithvi could never make a space for himself, for Angad never emptied that home of her heart, so how could she allow Prithvi to settle? Whether be Angad's presence or absence…she couldn't let him leave for her conscience knew better!

i agree with every word that you said. i couldn't have said it any better.

Originally posted by: love4ever

Both however have fought over her…Angad's fighting has taken the name of revenge and Prithvi's fighting in name of marriage. Neither have won, but they wish for Kripa's love (in case of Prithvi…it's more obvious, but we can't be oblivion as to why Angad repeatedly strikes at her dispositions)

that is the reason he is taking revenge cuz he loves her.....and you are rite how his love for her has taken the name of revenge. he wants to show her that how much she hurted him and trying to tell her that i can't believe you dont think that i dont love you. i am so in love with you that it hurted me that u betrayed me like that.

Originally posted by: love4ever

He lives in past, fights in present to conquer, and wants to live in defeated future (for how can he not be defeated if he destroys his soulmate).

you are right how can he not be defeated by defeating the one he loves the most.

Originally posted by: love4ever

Angad – has shown powerful affects in these things - all in all, not how much, but how deep; to learn to love beyond what the heart imagines possible. – His love is deeper than the depths of ocean, greater than heights of skies, brighter than sun, more radiant than lightning bolt…u name it and we see it in his spirit for the way his heart wrenches for her is beyond imagination! His heart loves her so much and even he can't imagine it…we see how evident that was especially in the very last episode we saw!

omg i loved how you described his love. i cried reading it. it is true he loves her beyond any limits and boundries.....his love for her can't be describe in words cuz words fell short for how much he loves her.

Originally posted by: love4ever

Prithvi – loves her deeply, but is unaware of depths of love! He might love her more than anything, but does he love her more than himself? We might say yes to this...but think over again…why has he never told her what really happened? What is he afraid of?

i agree if he loves her so much why can't he tell her what he did. whn angad thought he slept with simone he wanted to tell her, he didn't care if she left him, he just to be honest with her. he didn't wanted to keep her the dartk. it was her who didnt wanted to hear what he had to say.

Originally posted by: love4ever

Now that we see both their love have different forces…it comes down to who they love…none other than Kripa sweetie! Since her heart chooses Angad…Angad's love has a higher standpoint!

-Love4ever!

well said, it really doesn't matter whose love is greater (but i think angad love is way greater thn prithvi's). kripa only yarns for angad and angad only. you can see it in her eyes everytime she looks at him.

Edited by angad_4me - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hey Sweeties,

Angel—thanks dear and really sorry that it was so long! I usually go a little overboard on such sensitive issues.

Angad_4me—thank you so much for your lovely words and I am glad we share similar ideas. Its really amazing to see how both the characters are in love, and still install negativities in it...which I hope vanishes!!!You said:

"that is the reason he is taking revenge cuz he loves her.....and you are rite how his love for her has taken the name of revenge. he wants to show her that how much she hurted him and trying to tell her that i can't believe you dont think that i dont love you. i am so in love with you that it hurted me that u betrayed me like that."

That's the thing…he loves her and I have no doubt about it…but the revenge is going a little too far. Agreed he was intensely hurt that even wounds are unaware of the depths, but to hurt the one you love in this way…makes me wonder how egotism overpowers human's mind. We have blamed Prithvi for breaking the chains of love between A-K, but is Angad not doing something similar now in name of revenge. Forget breaking Prithvi-Kripa's relationship (for you can't really break something if it never really is connected), he is contributing to tearing his love for her. I kind of have relating question as Galpal sweetie asked. Who is loving more or who is hurting more in name of love???

-Love4ever!

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hey Hafa di,

Amazing thoughts u have sweetie...and a little something to what you said...

You said " Prithvi, being spurned by Kripa time after time, became obsessed with owning her, and he tried to kill Angad to get her, thus leading him to kill Josh when he found out about Prithvi's evil plans. He put his own happiness above hers and Angads, just so that he could get what he was so obsessive about i.e. Kripa. But even though he is married to her, she will never love him the way he wants her to love him."

Prithvi's love is selfish…but he loves her with his whole heart…I can't deny that for he believes and cares so deeply that he is willing to wait for her acceptance (however, he knows he will never gain that for Angad breathes in Kripa's heart). I would never support him for the sinful act he committed, but his eyes are longing for love, his heart pumping for her warmth, his veins wanting to feel her essence…he openly says he loves her the most and insecure for her as well. When love goes beyond boundaries…unexpected things happen! I think his love is not compared to Angad …coz his is not mutual…he loves her, but she never will!!!! We blame Prithvi…he broke bonds then and Angad is doing it now!

You said: "Love is about giving. Giving unconditionally, whether the person you love, loves you in return or not. There are no conditions in love, and with Prithvi, he gained Kripa through ill-gotten gains, and once his nature is reavealed, she won't stay with him.
Love is about sacrificing one's own happiness for the sake of the one you love, not sacrificing someone else for that love. Prithvi sacrificed Josh, in order to get Kripa......Angad sacrificed himself, he ruined himself and destroyed his family for Kripa's happiness. "


Agreed sis that Prithvi's way are not correct and his love will never be sanctified for he has used blood-filled hands to bring Kripa to his base. But, to say he is not giving is also not totally correct…he has given his life towards her! I am supporting what I sense from his deep want for her, but please don't get me wrong. I am always A-K supporter, for soulmates are meant to be together!

But, in some ways I think Angad is committing as heinous act as Prithvi once did. Prithvi physically killed Josh for he couldn't stand his presence of re-uniting A-K, but what is Angad doing now…he is killing Mishti's love. Prithvi killed Josh physically, and Angad will be killing someone internally...he will kill her love soon and stab her feelings…crush her soul and tear it apart just coz he wanted to take revenge from Kripa. Isn't he creating another Angad or Kripa in Mishti? Is internal killing not as evident as physical death??? Can we approve that? A person who dies from outside is saved from pain, but a person who is dead while living…now isn't that fatal or worse than death???

Do tell me what you think about it...

-Love4ever!


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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hafsu...I agree wid u completely.....Angad luv for Krips is much stronger....and will always remain so...


Luv Zenia.....

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