'Us' vs. 'Them'

Hello to all,

May I prescribe a medicine that might settle our differences on Leach-e-Jalapeno cosummation? May I offer my interpretation of the actions that led to the dreadful night and after-consequences?

Will you be willing to give me a chance and actually care about what I have to say? Please!

Before I begin, I would like to say that for me Angad & Krips are equal as human beings. However, my 'way' of dealing with both characters is quite different.

I shed a tear every time Angad hurts; not a single tear rolls down my face when krips is put through a similar plight. I openly criticize Angad's actions; I understand krips' motivation as a woman and hence support her actions.

I don't necessarily support one over the other because I dearly hold onto 'right' vs. 'wrong' concept, but because I percieve Angad's actions directed towards me- I would never want a man to put me thru the torment Angad puts krips through. Hence, the staunch criticism. Nonetheless, it doesn't mean that I don't see Angad's misery and agony.

Now, that I have explained how I deal with the characters, I would like to talk about Angad in general: Angad is very impulsive in temperament and he leaves no stones unturned in getting back at people who have hurt him. In fact, in his hurt he destoys all- remember how he burned krips belongings, his sheets, and even krips image on the road. However, I saw a different man yesterday. I can't believe the extent to which krips' decision hurt him- he was willing to hurt himself to reduce the pain. His agony was well depicted. I truely symphatize with Angad's condition.

Now, I will ask you to put Angad and his agony aside.

Please do NOT read the following as a justification for krips' actions. I don't intend to because currently I can't blame one without blaming the other and vice-versa. I only use krips as an example to prove my point.

The following points have been touched upon by many over and over again.

1. P-K consummation isn't wrong, but why did krips deem it fit to call angad up right before she was going to consummate?

2. Krips is falling back on her principles, and giving her body upto a man who she will never love. If she truly believed in the words she was dishing out to prithvi, we wouldn't mind. However, her crying hints that she was regretful of her actions. To prove her point, she slept with prithvi.

3. Why did she consummate in Angad's bedroom? If she did, doesn't she have the decency to clean up after her?

Do you agree that the above points, along with krips motive, is the root of all evil? crux all problems? our differences?

If so, follow along....

Our differences arise from our perception - our interpretation of the situation. The sense of 'right' vs. 'wrong' is based on how we percieve a certain action and depends on if we have been an active or a passive participant in a particular situation.

Some of us take everything at face value, while others look for meaning behind every action. Some prefer to connect the dots. Others look at things the way they were shown. Pre-formed notions can form the crux of problems at times, too.

Ekta Mai & team have been successful in playing with the viewer's emotions & thinking process. They have been successful at presenting a situation which could have various interpretations. P-K consummation & Angad's rxn. seem so realistic. In fact, they have managed to showcase it as if it were presented in literature. We should commend ekta & team's efforts: literature - the ironies, the exaggeration, the artistic transpiring of events - and video - real people posing as characters - have come together in a powerful yet meaningful way.

To answer the above questions -I would like to put forth my interpretation of P-K consummation, and krips's actions. YOu do NOT have to agree with my perceptions. All I ask you is to take a look at the situation from a different angle. If you deem it fit or can manage to change your perspective, I would be more than happy; I have no problem in accepting rejections either. ARt is free to interpretation.

We can all point a finger at krips and label her actions as an act of vengence. However, I choose to think otherwise. It's quite true that she wanted to hurt angad to the maximum, but all her actions aren't to be judged on the basis of a single truth.

1. I see krips call to angad as a form of closure to angad-krips relationship for krips. Until now, she had been living a double life. Inspite of the fact that she was married to prithvi, she was living in past memories. The phone call was way for her to tell Angad & herself that all ties are severed.

She could have gone and confronted Angad on the matter, told him face-to-face that she was going to move ahead with life. Imagine the difficulty in doing so! I am sure angad wouldn't have done anything but hurl more taunts at her.

Hence, there is nothing wrong in calling Angad up. While krips and prithvi consummated, what is the gurantee that the phone was on? The director didn't seem it fit to focus on the phone even a single time. Hence, calling up angad wasn't as important as the p-k consummation itself. If the phone were on, don't you think angad would be on the other end. Instead, we was agonizing himself by beating the drums and imagining krips happily consummating her marriage with prithvi. Please connect the dots and don't focus on something that didn't even hold importance for the director/story-teller or the characters after the initial p-k talk.

2. Yes, krips slept with a man she respects like no other. To her, prithvi just might be the equivalent of God. Falling shot on principles? her principles are to care for others, especially her family. She gives her family importance...right now, prithvi and misti are it. I am not sure why you aren't willing to believe her words to prithvi. I am! She wants to move on with life- start afresh with prithvi. She said she had wanted to do it for months now. Does she want angad back? No! Then, why can't we believe that she wants to take a step forward.

ARe her tears decieving you? I percieve her tears as such: she was leaving her cherished past behind. she cut a part of her soul and heart away by consummating her marriage with prithvi. Agreed that her past wasn't all flowers, but she did hold it as hers. Now, she had decided to finally leave the past behind. Wouldnt' you hurt if you had to leave something of yours behind for good? The tears were cause she has burried angad and her memories for good by taking this step. Tears weren't for regret of what she had done or cause she had left her principles behind or she had been successful in hurting angad....they were there otherwise. Listen to the lyrics of KYph as she leaves angad's room.

3. Now, what is the big deal about consummating in Angad's bedroom? Agreed, this action only led to pouring hot oil & salt on angad's wounds (oouch). However, look at it from the story's perspective- Angad had insisted that prithvi stay at angad's place, while he stays away. Krips had already decided to consummate her marriage with prithvi...and she lands up at angad's place cause prithvi was there...they share a talk, and move on to next step. Obviously, they are gonna land up in the bedroom-Angad's bedroom, cause it's angad's damn house.

Cleaning up afterwards, yeah...that could have been done! I will give this a leeway..you know, it ended up giving us a darn good scene...and showed me a new man in angad.

What gives us the notion that all of it was "PRE-PLANNED"? KRipa "Planned" to consummate in Angad's bed! kripa "Planned" to take revenge...hence, all this. Why not otherwise? why not see it as her "planning" to save her marriage- to hold onto the man who had cared for her like no other? why?

I don't agree that "POINT" that meant to be proved by krips was "revenge", the point was "all ties broken, new paths set although with some agony".

So, you see....it's all a matter of my interpretation of the scenes. It's a matter of how you guys and I see it diffently. It might or might now have to do with woman vs. man. It might have to do with pre-formed notions.

It's a matter of me taking leaps and bounds to connect the pieces rather differently than you guys.

I hope you understand what I am saying...PERCEPTION...I dont' say this to change your opinions regarding a character.

I would be happier if all women see both characters in new light...and support both, especially female characters...you dont' have to agree with the actions, you can definitely try to understand the reason behind those actions...right?

Peception & interpretation is all that matters...the cause of all differences! Ekta mai....you are brilliant...I have never enjoyed video as a media similar to literature...(ok, once before, in 'black'..that was damn good attempt).

Thanks for reading through patiently...and maybe, I have succeeded in winning a few hearts for the woman, have I?

Love all and care for all inspite their faults.

*reeps😛

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Yes, you will be spared the torture of reading through my long posts. I won't be able to present my opinion...with nomi gone and no videos for me to feed off....and be happy, now! yayay for you, and ouch for me.

NOw, I will go and bury my head in books for good....for a week or so.

Long post reeps.. but me have to just say one thing.. that it's not Kripa's fault at all, Angad had other reasons to defame her marriage but not this way and if P and K were togather, then this consumation wouldn't have happened and also, it is half of it's Angad's fault.. I don't know, but Kripa is not wrong this time. 😃

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amazin post reepz
ur absolutely rite
u made me realise tat it waas equally both angad n kriap's fault
but i still hate prithvi
i have 2 admitt it but ekat kapoor does have a brain n imagination 2 make such interestin n "intense" shows

good points reeps..

i still think kripa is responsible for a lot of actions as well as angad..equally. its not allll angads fault its not allll kripas fault. 😊

👏 great job

WOW. All I can say after reading the post is WOW. MINDBLOWING. AWESOME. On a serious note, after reading your post, you definately won my heart. I was never against Kripa's actions and after reading this....my decision to say that what she did was nothing wrong is unchangable. You have just won my heart for Kripa by posting this post. You said something true, we see what our eyes see for the first time....so when we see a scene...we just see it and make our comments.....we dont go into detail and also to the depth of the scene and find out what the scene wants to convey to us. We do not interpret the scene and we do not try to analyse the scenes to find out its inner true meaning. We just see it and say stuff which becomes completely baseless after we get to learn about the inner meaning. Its true what you said Peception & interpretation is all that matters. It changes absolutely everything. And true Ekta Mai is really brilliant......she knows her work very well..... no matter how much we blame her for doing certain things she knows her job and she also knows that whatever she is doing, she is doing it for the best. All I have to say Reeps, is reading you post, can change ones point of view , cause whatever you said was nothing but the truth. You have put new light on the total episode and gave new meaning to it. Its simply amazing what you wrote. Hats off to you. Brilliant Writing...Simply Awesome. 👏 . BY the way, as far as I think someone will be posting the videos, so we will see your analysis after each episode for as from my point of view it will not be yay for me...it will be ouch for me.So lets pray that someone else post the videos, so that we can read you anaysis, which just takes my breath aways. Just Outstanding. 👏

i think its kripa's fault.
the main reason her insecurity and her doubtful nature (remember when semone told her that angad slept with her. and she didnt even find it necessary to ask or discuss this with angad, that he actually did something like this or not, she just went and gave her statement that angad can kill any one, which is not fare and soon after she get married to prithvi...................... but she is not his wife even after that then why did she get marry when she doesnt want to have a hubby-wife relationship.

atleast angad is right on his path bcoz he endured a lot and even his family members against him but he is doing wrong with mishty, whts her fault in all this scene

thats my point of view sorry if someone mind it.

very good points reeps...but i dont see it tht way though...kripa has never ever forgot angad no matter how bad it has gone between them even whn she lost there baby she still loved angad. i dont think wht she did with P was wrong....i mean they are married and they had to do it sooner or later. but she cried afterwards whn she talked to angad....like telling angad that i was gonna take tht step with P but you pushed me so much that i wasnt ready to take the step yet but you pushed me to do it rite now, rite here in your house, in your bedroom.

and i think that both of them are in pain and i feel tht this time they are in pain b/c of eachother...yes P has some part of it but mostly it is their fault.....they always fight for "i love you so much, but you never loved me, it was a lie"....they both can't grasp the idea that the other loves me in so depth. thy love so eachother so much that they are willing to go in such intense to destroy the other that they destroy their ownself in the process. the only way that nothing will ever come between them is when they realize the intensity of the love they have for eachother....and able to say to themselves that ya she/he loves me more than anything that i won't believe anybody else whn someone tries to seperate them.

p.s. sry for the long post guys....but plz read my views.....lol

Originally posted by: Shalin

i think its kripa's fault.
the main reason her insecurity and her doubtful nature (remember when semone told her that angad slept with her. and she didnt even find it necessary to ask or discuss this with angad, that he actually did something like this or not, she just went and gave her statement that angad can kill any one, which is not fare and soon after she get married to prithvi...................... but she is not his wife even after that then why did she get marry when she doesnt want to have a hubby-wife relationship.

atleast angad is right on his path bcoz he endured a lot and even his family members against him but he is doing wrong with mishty, whts her fault in all this scene

thats my point of view sorry if someone mind it.

Hi, nobody will mind what you have to say. I am not saying that krips isn't faulty at times. Maybe she is and I am being blind towards her faults.

However, I only ask other women to see both as equals, and not demean krips for what she does. NOthing more...after all, it's about perception and our interpretation...what you hold as true, I might not and vice-versa.

Thanks for reading.

wow reeps wht a long post. I support krips 100% for yest action. Come to the point to call angad..it's only to tell him that she's going forward wid P to save her marriage. She did coz he challenged her and surcasted by telling that P left her and never comes back. She told that when she leaving that nobody can seperate them. And she thanked him for helping them to come close.

Originally posted by: angad_4me

very good points reeps...but i dont see it tht way though...kripa has never ever forgot angad no matter how bad it has gone between them even whn she lost there baby she still loved angad. i dont think wht she did with P was wrong....i mean they are married and they had to do it sooner or later. but she cried afterwards whn she talked to angad....like telling angad that i was gonna take tht step with P but you pushed me so much that i wasnt ready to take the step yet but you pushed me to do it rite now, rite here in your house, in your bedroom.

and i think that both of them are in pain and i feel tht this time they are in pain b/c of eachother...yes P has some part of it but mostly it is their fault.....they always fight for "i love you so much, but you never loved me, it was a lie"....they both can't grasp the idea that the other loves me in so depth. thy love so eachother so much that they are willing to go in such intense to destroy the other that they destroy their ownself in the process. the only way that nothing will ever come between them is when they realize the intensity of the love they have for eachother....and able to say to themselves that ya she/he loves me more than anything that i won't believe anybody else whn someone tries to seperate them.

p.s. sry for the long post guys....but plz read my views.....lol

Yes, she has never forgotten Angad. However, by taking a step forward, she has tried to shut angad out of her life. Agreed, the step she has taken is big, but moving on is what matters. At least she is giving it a try.

The rest of what you say, I agree w/.